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Title: Catchup Time
Post by: The Heretic on May 04, 2026, 07:52:24 PM
I must revisit bands I was once into and do a catchup on their output since they dropped off my radar. First in the list is Paradise Lost who I was obsessed with around Draconian Times but I haven't listed to since Believe in Nothing, it could be a reawakening or a final nail in the coffin.

Anyone else in a similar position with bands?
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Anton Arcane on May 04, 2026, 10:42:10 PM
I suppose Tiamat would be one for me. Wildhoney is up there with the best of the best but after that I lost all interest.
I had an Entombed catch up recently and realised that I didn't miss anything essential.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Pagan Saviour on May 05, 2026, 08:45:08 AM
QuoteI had an Entombed catch up recently and realised that I didn't miss anything essential

There's loads I've let drop off - but suspect the above will be the case most of the time.


PL are a great example though. 17 albums and most of them are completely forgettable.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Necro Red on May 05, 2026, 10:10:21 AM
I have done with Crytopsy. Listened to the last two albums. While they are very well executed they just aren't anywhere near as good as the early stuff. Not saying it's bad by any means, just doesn't have the same character I guess.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Carnage on May 05, 2026, 10:54:48 AM
Did a Sigur Ros one recently, I hadn't bothered withbthe last few. Glad I did now, they're hit miss but Atta was mighty.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Ducky on May 05, 2026, 11:17:52 AM
I find myself thinking "yeah I'm into modern Therapy?", and realise the latest album of theirs I own is High Anxiety, which released 23 years ago (which in itself is a cause of anxiety).

I've dipped in and out of later releases, and some of them certainly have some good tunes, I just never kept up with them.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 05, 2026, 11:23:12 AM
The last Therapy? I bought was 'Suicide Pact- You First'... 27 years ago! Nothing I've heard after that interested me, and the one or two before it were middling. They never captured the weird post-punk, industrial, something or other of Nurse again which is a shame. It's such a great album. I really want to grab that Jaaw album but the nuclear postage from Svart makes it a turnoff. If Svart put out another Skepticism album I might add Jaaw into the basket.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Pagan Saviour on May 05, 2026, 11:52:50 AM
You're 100% correct!!!!

Jaaw is the only thing that comes close to it. Troublegum is like the Black album or Appetite for Destruction for me, never need to hear it again so when I throw on therapy it's mostly the mini albums and EP's these days especially Pleasure Death and Baby Teeth. I did enjoy some of their post Troublegum albums Infernal, Semi-Detached and I hated suicide pact when it came out but have since come to think it was their last, not classic but interesting album. I've taken a punt on some of their albums after that and have always been disappointed. I think think they know what they're doing themselves or what they want to be anymore.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Carnage on May 05, 2026, 11:55:52 AM
High Anxiety and Cleave would be my picks of the period you've not listened to. Both fairly straightforward though, less of the weirdness you'd have in the early stuff.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Bürggermeister on May 05, 2026, 01:52:02 PM
I've a lot of time for Cleave, it's very good. Saw them live around that time and it came across really well too.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Emphyrio on May 05, 2026, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: The Heretic on May 04, 2026, 07:52:24 PMI must revisit bands I was once into and do a catchup on their output since they dropped off my radar. First in the list is Paradise Lost who I was obsessed with around Draconian Times but I haven't listed to since Believe in Nothing, it could be a reawakening or a final nail in the coffin.

Anyone else in a similar position with bands?

Did a Pallbearer and Swallow the Sun catch up not too long ago. Hard to capture the same feeling sometimes, if you let a band pass you by.

Almost did it myself after Believe In Nothing but the Rhys Fulber produced albums got me back on board.


Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: jobrok1 on May 05, 2026, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: Carnage on May 05, 2026, 11:55:52 AMHigh Anxiety and Cleave would be my picks of the period you've not listened to. Both fairly straightforward though, less of the weirdness you'd have in the early stuff.

Yeah! They are the best ones after Suicide Pact...

One Cure Fits All and the last one, Cold Hard Fire, are VERY dull.
Crooked Timber isn't far behind them, but the deluxe version had some interesting additions to it.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Pagan Saviour on May 06, 2026, 07:11:19 AM
I have Crooked - it's god awful. Seen them on that tour too - they "treated" us to the whole record.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Trev on May 07, 2026, 02:54:05 PM
Watched a Pantera clip on youtube a while ago, so the algorithm started bombarding me with more and I figured I'd go back and run through the discography including the early stuff

Looking at all the interviews though, can't help but think that if Dime wasn't shot he probably would have been dead in a few years from the booze
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Bürggermeister on May 07, 2026, 03:56:08 PM
I'd have hoped he had the class to be Diamond Darrell again. "Dimebag" was fucking spasticated.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Carnage on May 07, 2026, 04:10:01 PM
Thank you, been saying that for decades.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Circlepit on May 07, 2026, 08:24:24 PM
High Anxiety is brilliant , it's like a follow up to Troublegum insofar as it's potentially hit after bit.

Never Apologise Never Explain is great as well. It's the last one I listened to.

It's a bit less straight forward. Almost like a companion to Infernal Love.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: jpm4 on May 07, 2026, 09:31:33 PM
Cleave and Never Apologise, Never Explain are the post Troublegum ones I go back to the most. They have memorable songs with a bit of grit to them, the drumming is great too.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 07, 2026, 10:17:24 PM
Must check out Never Apologise so. I like Infernal Love.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Ducky on May 08, 2026, 12:28:04 AM
Never Apologise has Die Like a Motherfucker, which is one of their best songs.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: astfgyl on May 09, 2026, 10:38:20 AM
Going to have a go at a couple of the Therapy? albums mentioned here as I don't know a note of them. I just stopped at Semi Detached and never went on. Maybe I listened to Cleave all the way through once and my toes curled at Wreck It Like Beckett to the extent I didn't go back
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Bürggermeister on May 09, 2026, 11:59:18 AM
It's a shrewd move, opening your album with the worst song in it by far  :abbath:
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Ducky on May 09, 2026, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on May 09, 2026, 10:38:20 AMGoing to have a go at a couple of the Therapy? albums mentioned here as I don't know a note of them. I just stopped at Semi Detached and never went on. Maybe I listened to Cleave all the way through once and my toes curled at Wreck It Like Beckett to the extent I didn't go back

Defo give High Anxiety a go. It was Neil Cooper's first album on drums with them. Whether by accident or design his style is bang on for Ewing's, which is to say he's fucking deadly and really adds to their sound.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Carnage on May 09, 2026, 12:49:14 PM
I like Wreck It..., it was deadly live on that tour, a great opener IMO.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: astfgyl on May 09, 2026, 04:11:55 PM
I saw Wreck It live and I was unimpressed. Just a dogshit concept lyrically and dare I say musically as well.

I listened to Troublegum the other day. It's okay but Infernal Love is far better.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: leatherface on May 09, 2026, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: Trev on May 07, 2026, 02:54:05 PMWatched a Pantera clip on youtube a while ago, so the algorithm started bombarding me with more and I figured I'd go back and run through the discography including the early stuff

Looking at all the interviews though, can't help but think that if Dime wasn't shot he probably would have been dead in a few years from the booze

I also choose to remember 'Diamond ' Darrell as I had been introduced.

What about trying their 80s stuff.
?  Yeah, it's not Pantera as they later became known as but if you pretend the 90s didn't happen for them it's perfectly serviceable 'heavy hair' metal. 'I AM THE NIGHT' is a good one.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: astfgyl on May 11, 2026, 08:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ducky on May 09, 2026, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on May 09, 2026, 10:38:20 AMGoing to have a go at a couple of the Therapy? albums mentioned here as I don't know a note of them. I just stopped at Semi Detached and never went on. Maybe I listened to Cleave all the way through once and my toes curled at Wreck It Like Beckett to the extent I didn't go back

Defo give High Anxiety a go. It was Neil Cooper's first album on drums with them. Whether by accident or design his style is bang on for Ewing's, which is to say he's fucking deadly and really adds to their sound.

I'll give that a shot, sound. I dunno why I fell off from listening to whatever they put out like I can't even say it was because it was bad because I didn't try it
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Ducky on May 11, 2026, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on May 11, 2026, 08:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ducky on May 09, 2026, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on May 09, 2026, 10:38:20 AMGoing to have a go at a couple of the Therapy? albums mentioned here as I don't know a note of them. I just stopped at Semi Detached and never went on. Maybe I listened to Cleave all the way through once and my toes curled at Wreck It Like Beckett to the extent I didn't go back

Defo give High Anxiety a go. It was Neil Cooper's first album on drums with them. Whether by accident or design his style is bang on for Ewing's, which is to say he's fucking deadly and really adds to their sound.

I'll give that a shot, sound. I dunno why I fell off from listening to whatever they put out like I can't even say it was because it was bad because I didn't try it

Sure I did the same, just later down the line.

If you haven't given Suicide Pact a whirl that's a very good one too (Infernal Love is their best, IMO).

Give Shameless a very wide berth. You know when you're a young fella with limited record buying power and you spend your dosh on a total stinker? Shameless is one of mine. Even their later albums that aren't great at least have your man Cooper's very tasty drumming on them, Shameless still had Hopkins and "serviceable drumming, shite songs" comes to mind.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Carnage on May 11, 2026, 11:30:10 PM
Shameless is indeed shite, thankfully I picked that one up fairly cheap & secondhand on Ebay.

Just went to pick up the deluxe reissue of One Cure Fits All there, €28 for the bastard on CD. That was Amazon, Spindizzy are sold out, I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: jobrok1 on May 11, 2026, 11:55:41 PM
One Cure Fits All is their biggest dud, in my opinion. Just no spark to any of it.
Title: Re: Catchup Time
Post by: Circlepit on May 12, 2026, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: jobrok1 on May 11, 2026, 11:55:41 PMOne Cure Fits All is their biggest did, in my opinion. Just no spark to any of it.

I gave it a go on Monday, it's boring and the guitar sound is shite.
It makes me quite dubious about the other Therapy releases I've skipped.