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Title: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: John Kimble on December 04, 2025, 11:29:56 PM
Hey, do these merit their own new topic? On the strength of the music, not in the slightest. But I guess there's plenty curious enough to check them out (myself included), so with that in mind, here's two new singles

https://youtu.be/jmrbPEEi0tk?si=uuj_IzZn-XE6X168

https://youtu.be/gJng5qD7Nhw?si=JB8x3QL5sRTJBzRC

I wasn't actually aware until now that Guns had released material subsequent to Chinese Democracy. I'm going to assume they're every bit as bad as these. Something about that second song there puts me in mind of the opening credits of the Golden Girls.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: ldj on December 05, 2025, 12:39:37 AM
Yeah they've been releasing tracks every now and again last couple of years, they're just CD leftovers with parts re-recorded by Slash and Duff.

I actually don't mind Chinese Democracy but none of the leftovers have been any use.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 05, 2025, 01:36:20 AM
Usual leftover stuff from Axl's Vaults. A pair of nothing songs, but there's a hook or two that would have probably worked in the 90s with a bit of grit.

Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 05, 2025, 07:18:47 AM
I think Chinese contains some of their best material. Madagascar, Sorry, Better, There was a Time are all right up there. But I'd agree - these have all been shit. There was a track doing the rounds from Chinese called Silkworms - it sounded great but it's never surfaced.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 05, 2025, 08:54:10 AM
Enjoyed the solo in Nothin' all the same.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: londonleatherboy on December 05, 2025, 08:58:15 AM
Seem to be leftovers from years ago..dont know if they've written anything together since they reformed but if they did imagine how bad it is if this is getting picked ahead of it
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 05, 2025, 09:29:41 AM
They could both be filler tracks on UYI I or II, for sure.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 05, 2025, 09:31:35 AM
Not worth the electricity it takes to play them. Total non-entities.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 05, 2025, 09:32:11 AM
Naively hoping they're just releasing the leftovers for now and maybe something better is to come but realistically can't see it.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Emphyrio on December 05, 2025, 11:20:28 AM
Both fairly nothing songs in all honesty apart from the solo section in Nothin. Everything they've released post reunion is bog standard rock stuff. I'd like to hear them tackle some more grandiose stuff that was evident on Chinese Democracy.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: The Butcher on December 05, 2025, 11:28:26 AM
That minute of the solo for Nothin' is the very slight glimmer of old but apart from that - meandering shite at best. Would be outrageous if they combine all these woeful b/c-sides and released it claiming that it's an actual proper album. They don't seem interested in quality control whatsoever - just something to let people know they are still touring for those big bucks.

I reckon a good shout for them would be to go through all their own solo output since the 90s, pick the best 12 songs, rework with Axl and release. Better than this scutter.

Chinese Democracy had slight hints of brilliance - as we all know would have been given a bit more cred if Axl released it as a solo album. Really highlights that Appetite was right place right time.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: The Heretic on December 05, 2025, 12:35:53 PM
they have an Appetite for legacy Destruction
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 05, 2025, 12:48:59 PM
QuoteI reckon a good shout for them would be to go through all their own solo output since the 90s, pick the best 12 songs, rework with Axl and release. Better than this scutter.

Their solo output is awful. Axl is the genius, but it only really works with the classic lineup. I've a fair amount of the solo records at home. Everything from Duff's Believe in Me to Gilby Clarke's Pawnshop guitars and everything in between and it all amounts to bar rock. The closest they got to creating something worthwhile was Velvet Revolver and even at that those albums are full of fluff.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: mickO))) on December 05, 2025, 01:53:28 PM
They aren't exactly the most active band and do come across as lazy. My uneducated guess would be they haven't written any music since Slash rejoined and are probably just releasing this stuff to keep people interested / put off doing a new album for as long as possible while still being able to tour as much as possible because isn't touring were the money is made these days.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 05, 2025, 03:23:56 PM
If they were just lazy it might be ok. They come across as having lost the ability to tell what is good and what is truly shite, often known as 'Tallicitis, and release things which really should be buried at sea, at night and in lead-lined barrels.

There should be people in their organisation who say "Lads, hang on now" but I assume they were all fired long, long ago and, as long as the seemingly eternal goodwill generated by Appetite never runs out, the tickets will continue to sell, the money will keep coming in and everybody shuts their mouth and cashes the cheque.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: The Heretic on December 06, 2025, 05:01:31 PM
Axl has become what he slagged Iron Maiden for
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Mooncat on December 07, 2025, 04:21:52 PM
I've actually never seen Gn'R before, one of the few bands I've always missed. They're playing Edmonton next year with tix $250 and I truly can't decide whether it's worth it. Has anyone seen the more recent shows? Worth splashing out for? Their appearance at that Black Sabbath farewell was very patchy...

I did see Velvet Revolver when they were first out at The Point in about 2005ish, plus Slash at many festival appearances. VR were actually really good.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 07, 2025, 06:31:59 PM
I've seen them a fair few times. Axls voice has deteriorated but the band are tight and they'll play for over 2.5hrs. To be fair to them I'd say they were all shoved on with little or no soundcheck at the sabbath thing
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 07, 2025, 06:33:09 PM
If in doubt, look up Axl singing November Rain at Lisa Marie Presley's funeral and decide if that + autotune is worth 250 quid to you. You only live once, after all.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Emphyrio on December 07, 2025, 07:32:12 PM
That version of November Rain is indeed atrocious, and the Sabbath cover at that gig was poor. However, I've seen another live version of it and it was excellent.

Also I've seen them a couple of times in the last few years and they have been very good apart from the pointless covers that they throw in.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: StrangersWithGuns on December 14, 2025, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on December 05, 2025, 12:48:59 PM
QuoteI reckon a good shout for them would be to go through all their own solo output since the 90s, pick the best 12 songs, rework with Axl and release. Better than this scutter.

Their solo output is awful. Axl is the genius, but it only really works with the classic lineup. I've a fair amount of the solo records at home. Everything from Duff's Believe in Me to Gilby Clarke's Pawnshop guitars and everything in between and it all amounts to bar rock. The closest they got to creating something worthwhile was Velvet Revolver and even at that those albums are full of fluff.


I think slash's snakepit first album is class and has some of his best lead playing, but would agree otherwise
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Maggot Colony on December 15, 2025, 09:53:28 AM
Quote from: StrangersWithGuns on December 14, 2025, 03:47:21 PMI think slash's snakepit first album is class and has some of his best lead playing, but would agree otherwise

You should change the band name to Strangers With Guns N' Roses to give yourselves an auld algorithm boost for Christmas.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Eoin McLove on December 15, 2025, 10:27:19 AM
Stranglers With Guns N Roses. Really maximise the potential.
Title: Re: New Guns N' Roses
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 17, 2025, 04:51:18 PM
Alan Niven was on Mick Walls podcast for a couple of digs at Axl this week.