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Title: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 25, 2025, 05:28:43 PM
The Soulfly chat had me looking at their wiki - Chama is their 13th record which is unbelievable in itself. I mean who the fuck listens to or buys this stuff. There's not a decent album or playlist between those albums. I get that there was some good will towards Max a the beginning but surely that ran out ten records ago?


They're not the only guilty party - there's plenty of bands that release genuinely dreadful music over and over, how does Anvil or Six Feet Under for example have such lengthy careers? 
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 05:41:51 PM
Nightwish, Epica, etc, that kind of music is total fucking muck to my ears, watered down pop-metal mixed with Eurovision and Peppa the Pig, cringe metal for people who like black t-shirts and cosplay, just fucking childish wailing for people who cry for help frequently. THere's not a good tune to be found in their entire catalogues.

I just don't get the appeal of it, if I'm honest, yet it's massively successful  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: jobrok1 on October 25, 2025, 07:01:58 PM
Soulfly are the worst perpetrators, for sure.
I remember getting the debut back in the day, all excited for Max's next chapter and being so utterly disappointed. I knew he was going to lean into the whole Roots thing a bit more, but he really shit the bed with the first Soulfly album.
Second didn't fair much better but like a junkie I kept hoping...
Then the third abortion was passed. And I got off the bus.

The 'Tree of Pain' song... Fuck my life!!!  :eyeroll:

Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 07:02:38 PM
You didn't want to jumpdafuckup?
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 25, 2025, 07:06:53 PM
Quote from: jobrok1 on October 25, 2025, 07:01:58 PMSoulfly are the worst perpetrators, for sure.
I remember getting the debut back in the day, all excited for Max's next chapter and being so utterly disappointed.

This. Playing it on the discman on the bus home, I was quite deflated by it all. I was naive I suppose, in hoping for something along the lines of Nailbomb.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 25, 2025, 07:22:07 PM
This is exactly it, I was the exact same. Identical with Six Feet Under - it's got Chris Barnes Alan West it has to be killer but no. Like with soulfly I gave the second one a go but here they are 14 albums into their career and not one of them a classic or even decent
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: jobrok1 on October 25, 2025, 07:22:24 PM
Machine Head have to fall into this category, as well.

First two... Great!
Everything else has either been mostly muck with a couple of OK, but bloated, albums.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Trev on October 25, 2025, 07:28:48 PM
Annihilator, first two are classics, and I really like the two with Joe Comeau on vocals, but that's four out of, I think, 19 albums?

They've got the odd decent song scattered across the rest but in general it's a pretty poor discography
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 07:40:30 PM
The second one with Comeau is a shocker. That fucking guitar tone is unlistenable and unforgiveable. The one before Comeau joined, Criteria For A Black Widow, with Randy Rampage, is essesntially them trying to redo the first album. It's ok, better than all but the first two and the Comeau one which came after.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: John Kimble on October 25, 2025, 07:44:14 PM
Much as I hate to admit it, I wasn't averse to nu-metal at the time (really liked Roots much as I can't abide it now) so I was looking forward to the Soulfly debut when it came out. Massive disappointment, just a load of lumpen, stodgy riffs and nothing memorable. Remarkably consistent band in that respect, considering they kept that formula going over 13 albums.

Regarding stuff like Nightwish etc, yeah you could say they have an appalling back catalogue but most of us aren't their target audience. I wonder what most of their fans would think. Actually no, I couldn't give a shit, I doubt they'd be the most discerning in the first place so they probably think everything is great.

Could you make the argument for bands like Metallica and Slayer who've released some undeniable classics, but then proceeded to shit all over their legacy? Numerically, the bad almost outweigh the good.

Machine Head get my vote. Burn my Eyes was great and everything since has been bang average, at best, or appalling shite.

Fear Factory...everything after Demanufacture was shit.

In Flames. Post Whoreacle is balls.

Six Feet Under. Meat and potatoes at their best, then a solid back catalogue of utter poo.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 07:48:08 PM
You could put Obituary in that kind of zone, beyond the first two albums, who really gives a fuck?
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 25, 2025, 08:08:26 PM
Ah now, The End Complete is decent and I'd say the s/t a few years ago is the best thing they've done since.

Cradle Of Filth deserve a mention here. Principle, V Empire and maybe Midian aside, a big pile of shite.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 08:12:20 PM
Ah come on, The End Complete is shite. It gives nothing you haven't got from the first two, except worse.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: John Kimble on October 25, 2025, 08:17:46 PM
I'd even be inclined to give Obituary a pass on World Demise, although maybe that's because it was the first album I ever got by them. But yeah, more misses than hits.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: open face surgery on October 25, 2025, 08:23:30 PM
But their misses are better than the entire Soulfly discography and they invented something, so different buzz. Same applies for CoF. All good upto and including Cruelty depending on who you ask.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 25, 2025, 08:26:56 PM
Your Slayers Metallicas etc id say no, in both cases not a bad number of albums is it 11 each and the earlier half all gold. If there was a guilty party there it'd be Megadeth with their 17/18 albums but again they've paid their dues.


I was more talking about bands that have released scutter since day one. Not one classic album. As in how in the name of Jaysus do they have a career. In Six Feet Unders case who at metal blade thinks it's a good idea to release more of that shit.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: John Kimble on October 25, 2025, 08:38:37 PM
Yeah, the Metallica/Slayer comment was more of a flippant remark I suppose...you can definitely argue that a few classic, genre-defining albums outweigh the bad stuff. In an ideal world, id prefer if the likes of Illud Divinum Insanus never happened in the first place, but it's existence doesn't change my appreciation for Altars etc. And these lads have to make a living at the end of the day, so if people continue to lap up shite well beyond its sell by date, then what harm.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 25, 2025, 08:42:28 PM
Definitely , and labels will continue to release stuff by MA for example because of altars etc. I'm still wondering who the fuck bought Savages or Totem by soulfly ????
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 25, 2025, 08:46:55 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 25, 2025, 08:26:56 PMI was more talking about bands that have released scutter since day one. Not one classic album. As in how in the name of Jaysus do they have a career.

In that case, Kiss and Manowar immediately spring to mind (though in the latter's case it's probably unfair to include parody acts). Consistent excrement.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:23:36 PM
Who are the Swedish lads, playing the same song about war again and again and again? Mystifyingly popular.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Trev on October 25, 2025, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:23:36 PMWho are the Swedish lads, playing the same song about war again and again and again? Mystifyingly popular.
Sabaton I'm guessing? Their Carolus Rex album is a great slab of power metal, but they've essentially made the same album 10 or 11 times with diminishing returns every time, they put on a great live show though
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:29:52 PM
COF would be on my own list of utter shite from day 1, worst band I ever had the misfortune of seeing inadvertently. The only good thing they ever did was that fucking backprint. Amazing how they stretched employment for so long out of a fucking t-shirt. Truly awful band.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:30:22 PM
Quote from: Trev on October 25, 2025, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:23:36 PMWho are the Swedish lads, playing the same song about war again and again and again? Mystifyingly popular.
Sabaton I'm guessing? Their Carolus Rex album is a great slab of power metal, but they've essentially made the same album 10 or 11 times with diminishing returns every time, they put on a great live show though
That's them.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Eoin McLove on October 25, 2025, 09:30:50 PM
Sabaton?

Eh... yep.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: The Heretic on October 25, 2025, 09:48:52 PM
Kiss
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: The Great Cull on October 25, 2025, 10:03:52 PM
Sabaton were the first band that came to mind. Shite on every level.

Bands like Stratovarius too. No idea how they have such a following.

Oh and Dragonforce....
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: The Heretic on October 25, 2025, 10:18:34 PM
Let's be honest here, outside of RIP every Megadeth album has been shite
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 10:22:05 PM
Ah lad
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 25, 2025, 10:33:48 PM
Quote from: The Heretic on October 25, 2025, 10:18:34 PMLet's be honest here, outside of Peace Sells, SFSGSW and RIP every Megadeth album has been shite

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Circlepit on October 25, 2025, 10:42:38 PM
This is getting out of hand !
The End Complete is every bit as good as the first 2. No doubt about it.

In Flames had 2 more great releases after Whoracle - Clayman and Re-Route To Remain.

With regards ro Six Feet Under,  Brian Slagel has the form for them.
He had Chris Barnes on the latest episode of his podcast.
It's call 100 songs that define heavy metal.
He has picked some awful shite for his list.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Goosebumples on October 25, 2025, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: Trev on October 25, 2025, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:23:36 PMWho are the Swedish lads, playing the same song about war again and again and again? Mystifyingly popular.
Sabaton I'm guessing? Their Carolus Rex album is a great slab of power metal, but they've essentially made the same album 10 or 11 times with diminishing returns every time, they put on a great live show though

Was only on the beer last night and lashed this on for a mate, much to his dismay, singing along and insisting its deadly to him  :laugh: ...its not, its utter scutter, but somehow still delights me. The super cheesy lyrics about a 15 year old boy king chosen by god are incredibly terrible and make me laugh every time.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 25, 2025, 11:25:36 PM
I'd have no problem with putting In Flames in this category, always thought they were shite.

But there's the thing, this could just be another 'bands I don't like' thread.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 02:52:45 AM
It could be, but it's supposed to be about bands that have not released a single good record so Obituary's  Megadeth etc do not qualify.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: The Heretic on October 26, 2025, 09:49:28 AM
Its difficult cause then you just end up naming bands you don't like full stop i.e Korn
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 10:33:46 AM
Again don't think they'd qualify - may not be to your tastes but some of the records are highly regarded.

Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: The Heretic on October 26, 2025, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 10:33:46 AMAgain don't think they'd qualify - may not be to your tastes but some of the records are highly regarded.



That's what I'm saying, just cause I don't like em and think their "catalog" is shite who is right and who is wrong, I think someone mentioned earlier the same thing, also what is a a catalog, I gave Kiss as an example earlier, they have plenty of half decent songs but I can't think of an album I would want to own from them?
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 01:02:36 PM
Specifically talking about the likes of Soulfly, Six Feet Under etc. Not one good record and it's not just down to taste most people would universally agree both are shit. What is either bands defining record and what are the must play tracks live? In both cases the answer is probably covers of tracks from their previous outfits.

I was just wondering out loud how in the name of Jaysus do they have such lengthy careers. Brian Slagel is usually on the money so why has he funded 14 SFU records and the graveyard classics series
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 26, 2025, 01:31:24 PM
Have they that many out? Fucking hell, that's depressing. I actually thought the first one was OK, meat and potatoes DM which can be grand when ypu're in the mood. After that though...
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Trev on October 26, 2025, 02:45:06 PM
Don't think there's much wrong with the first couple of SFU, nothing groundbreaking but wouldn't call them terrible either
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pentagrimes on October 26, 2025, 03:15:16 PM
Six Feet Under, surely.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 26, 2025, 03:19:54 PM
Cancer are also worthy of a mention when it comes to mediocre and forgettable DM? Even the inexplicable and brief presence of James Murphy couldn't magic up a silk purse out of a band who still got signed to a major label in the 90's  :laugh:

Bolt Thrower worthy of a shout here too #standwithKerrang
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 26, 2025, 03:26:37 PM
Death Shall Rise is mighty though, one of the better UK DM albums IMO. I've little interest in the rest, servicable though most of it is.

I'll ignore the Bolt Thrower comment.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 03:29:57 PM
Oh yeah Cancer for sure - even the debut is just grand


Another crappy one springs to mind Dew Scented who were on every package back in the day and I can't remember a note of their bland music. 8 albums they recorded but mercifully they finished in 2018.


What about The Haunted??? Some amount of gick there. I'd say the debut and Made me Do it are grand the way SFUs first two are grand. Hardly essential though!
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: John Kimble on October 26, 2025, 04:57:15 PM
Picked up a Dew Scented album at a gig in Nancy's years ago, think they were supporting Vader or Centurian maybe? They were great live as I remember, but an absolute snoozefest on record.

Agree with the Haunted, an entire career based on utter mediocrity.

Can't fathom the popularity of Lamb of God. Picked up one of their albums years ago and again, complete blandness.

Wasn't gonna bother with any of the usual nu-metal suspects cos it's all a bit low-hanging fruit...but have to give Coal Chamber a mention. I was into nu-metal at the time so my standards weren't exactly high, but that debut was the absolute pits and it seemed they got worse from then onwards. Which brings me onto Devildriver, yer man hopping onto the next bandwagon as soon as the nu-metal bubble burst...with spectacularly bland results.

Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pentagrimes on October 26, 2025, 05:40:16 PM
Actually seeing mention of Vader, I'd put then forward. I know the kvlt elite love to rave about the demos but the albums are well played but wildly dull. Zero personality
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Circlepit on October 26, 2025, 05:50:22 PM
I've tried with Vader a fair few times. It's so boring.
Well played but zero personality.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 06:06:57 PM
Yep and Vader are a band I get screwed over with every once and a while a new record will drop and a track will sound good, buy the thing and the rest always as dull as dishwater.


The also must have about 20 albums at this stage
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Circlepit on October 26, 2025, 06:47:19 PM
I bought Welcome To The Morbid Reich, it's just a dust collector now.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 07:53:31 PM
Hypocrisy??

To my mind they've one track. I've four of their albums here and they're all shit.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Mithrandir on October 29, 2025, 12:34:29 AM
Quote from: Carnage on October 25, 2025, 08:46:55 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 25, 2025, 08:26:56 PMI was more talking about bands that have released scutter since day one. Not one classic album. As in how in the name of Jaysus do they have a career.

In that case, Kiss and Manowar immediately spring to mind (though in the latter's case it's probably unfair to include parody acts). Consistent excrement.

Manowar is an absolutely insane call for this thread. Sign of the Hammer and Hail To England is some of the best heavy metal ever written.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Mithrandir on October 29, 2025, 12:51:07 AM
Quote from: Circlepit on October 26, 2025, 05:50:22 PMI've tried with Vader a fair few times. It's so boring.
Well played but zero personality.

Yep and also lump in all those bands that just seem to exist forever without actually releasing anything of note.. Blood Red Throne, Severe Torture, Jungle Rot, God Dethroned, Avulsed...etc
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 29, 2025, 06:29:37 AM
Good few I didn't think of there - I had to sit through a Jungle Rot set once still no the better of it.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Squigs on October 29, 2025, 11:19:37 AM
The Haunted were my favourite band when I was 14/15. Loved them. Wanted to get a tattoo of the wee logo man, thank fuck that didn't happen. Was talking about them over the last few weeks. S/T and MMDI are worthwhile, there's lots of riffs on there, none necessarily amazing, but I see why it captivated me and why, in a world of nu-metal this seemed so feckin fresh and new. OKW is really, really bland on reflection, I forced myself to like Revolver at the time and when The Dead Eye came out, I knew it was truly over. I'll always check out a new song out of curiosity and it is always dogshit. 10th album coming out this year, holy hell. Who needs it?!
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Squigs on October 29, 2025, 11:24:09 AM
Also, I used to post on The Haunted forum too and every now and then Peter Dolving would write a wordy, self-indulgent post, and I used to have to try really hard to push down the feeling that he was a bellend.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Eoin McLove on October 29, 2025, 11:33:10 AM
I never liked their stuff. Saw them live in Dorans one year. Who else was on that line up? I think Marco Arro (is that right? How has that name stayed in my brain...) was on vocals at the time and not only did they sound boring to me, they looked boring too.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Squigs on October 29, 2025, 01:27:50 PM
Was it Stamping Ground? Always regretted missing that one.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Ollie on October 29, 2025, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 26, 2025, 07:53:31 PMHypocrisy??

To my mind they've one track. I've four of their albums here and they're all shit.

Don't get me started on Hypocrisy, a laughably terrible band, so boring and no riffs.
Vader are up there too, not a single riff is memorable
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 29, 2025, 06:32:30 PM
The gig in Doran's had the Crown and Medulla Nocte in tow. It was a great gig I thought and squigz captured my sentiment towards the band perfectly. I think they were in the right place at right time but I never listen to anything by them these days. Those first two records were on repeat for me for a long time but they've aged dreadfully.


The gig with Stamping ground was the tour for the next record One Kill Wonder and that was Whelans.

Marco I thought was hilarious at the time but he's just an unfunny Sasquatch. I've seen them live more times than I would've cared to, they have been on so many feckin bills.

Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 29, 2025, 06:46:08 PM
Made Me Do It was OK, if frontloaded. Only heard the debut once, it didn't make much of an impression either way. I thought any of the subsequent stuff I've heard was bland to poor.

Witchery were more fun at the time, same guitarist I think?
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 29, 2025, 07:16:49 PM
Correct! I'd reach for my Witchery albums over The Haunted any day.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: astfgyl on October 29, 2025, 07:44:04 PM
I have One Kill Wonder by The Haunted and it's so bland that I can't remember a bit of it. Like unrelentingly bland.

Jesus the more I think of it the less I can remember it.

Absolutely awful
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Trev on October 29, 2025, 07:54:23 PM
I liked the album that had DOA on it when ot came out, although the fact that's the only song I can remember from it probably means it's actually a bit shit
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Eoin McLove on October 29, 2025, 08:22:10 PM
I can't remember a thing about The Crown from that gig. They had a cool video on HBB a couple years before that when they were still called Crown of Thorns. Or is that another band entirely? Medulla Nocte makes sense. They were the go to support band back then. Decent live but I never felt inspired to buy a CD.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 29, 2025, 08:32:04 PM
I think both albums were great but Inside I'm Dying is a must
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Trev on October 29, 2025, 08:48:52 PM
Carnal Forge are another, not bad, just completely bland and forgettable
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Thorn on October 29, 2025, 09:36:45 PM
Some ridiculous names put forward in this thread but Carnal Forge I can fully get on board with.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Paul keohane on October 29, 2025, 10:51:27 PM
That Haunted/The Crown gig was fairly savage, was very much into both bands at the time.

Most bands get boring as fuck when your on the go 30 plus years, but loads pop up with the odd gem deep into their careers too!

Some Lads on here dismissing loads of solid bands! :laugh:
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 30, 2025, 12:36:44 AM
Def down with the Vader call. Also down with Kiss. It's always been difficult for me to see them as anything other than the band with the least justified level of cred. What is supposed to be their best album? Do they have an album that's start to finish bangers (from a fans point of view even)? Destroyer? Detroit Rock City is pure grand, but it sounds like a song any two-bit rock band from the mid-70s could have released. There's a quote from the movie Detroit Rock City which always struck me as hilariously ironic, about how within the space of a year Kiss went from opening for Blue Öyster Cult to BÖC opening for them. Sometimes such switches really are just a case of crappy bands having more mass appeal, especially when they throw a clown act into the mix. Cos in 1976, same year as Destroyer, BÖC released Agents of Fortune which, in terms of both musicality and the path towards heavy metal, is just fucking head and shoulders above Destroyer. So yeah, I didn't wish you dead Ace, but I also wasn't bothered in the slightest by your passing. And on that note, let's have some BÖC!  :abbath:  :abbath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6MUYPT2JIw
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: StoutAndAle on October 30, 2025, 08:49:33 AM
Aerosmith - for me anyway - are very much a singles band, They have some wicked tracks in the back-catalogue and the "Big Ones" compilation solidifies that.

I really tried with their stuff from the debut up to "Get A Grip" and, in my opinion, I don't think that they have even one wall-to-wall belter of an album.   
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 30, 2025, 09:27:38 AM
Annihilator has reminded me Overkill would be another one for me. A couple of cool tracks but jaysus some of the records are really tedious. Like Vader every once in a while I'll get lured in with a review or a snippet of a latterday track that sounds good.

What's Overkill's magnum opus? Years of Decay, Feel the Fire? Because they're just grand.

20 studio albums to their credit if you're into that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 30, 2025, 10:04:44 AM
Ah the first 5 Overkill are beyond reproach. That's about where the quality train derails, though, yes.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Neuromancer on October 30, 2025, 10:21:13 AM
It's mind blowing to me that a guy like Dez Fafara (Devildriver/Coal Chamber) has had a career at all, nevermind one spanning nearly 30 years. Coal Chamber, a combination of all the worst nu-metal cliches combined in a one unlistenable band and then the utter generic dross that was Devildriver - 14 albums the lad has put out, all dog shit - yet he's been a relentless fixture "on the scene".

A lot of the old timers are definitely guilty of just releasing for releasing's sake, as mentioned: Megadeth, Annihilator, Overkill, Testament, Exodus, Saxon - and there's plenty of others, all straying into that territory... they've productised the sound and settled into a release/tour cycle - I think when the amount of bad albums outweighs the good (see Megadeth as a prime example) it's starting to tarnish the legacy a little.

Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 30, 2025, 09:27:38 AMWhat's Overkill's magnum opus? Years of Decay, Feel the Fire? Because they're just grand.

Yeah, I'd say "Years of Decay" and "Taking Over", anything else I could live without - few good tunes here and there, but hardly essential.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Eoin McLove on October 30, 2025, 10:30:49 AM
Wait, I thought Dez Fafara was responsible for bringing metal back alongside Flobb and Metal Hammer. Have I missed something?
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Thanatos on October 30, 2025, 11:47:34 AM
Has anyone mentioned the spectacularly awful Crematory yet? Been going since the very early 90's and have spat out an almost relentless spew of absolute rubbish to this day. They're like all the worst shite you'd see in those old late 90's Nuclear Blast catalogs rolled into one massive cringe inducing package.
I recall reading an article a good few years ago where they were whinging about online piracy, streaming and the likes and how they were threatening to break up if nobody bought their new album.
They're still on the go so there must be people still buying this shite to a level where they can keep going?
I asked a German friend recently if he had any insights into who the culprits are. The only suggestion he could put forward was "Overweight middle aged goths who rarely leave the house?"

They must be one of the most useless, irredeemably shite bands to ever exist?
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Emphyrio on October 30, 2025, 12:00:11 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on October 30, 2025, 08:49:33 AMAerosmith - for me anyway - are very much a singles band, They have some wicked tracks in the back-catalogue and the "Big Ones" compilation solidifies that.

I really tried with their stuff from the debut up to "Get A Grip" and, in my opinion, I don't think that they have even one wall-to-wall belter of an album.   

Even Big Ones has a lot of shite. I would say they have less than 10 great songs, but their good tunes are fuckin A1.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on October 30, 2025, 12:03:07 PM
I'll be shot for this but I'd have similar views on AC/DC, if ever there was a 'greatest hits' band, it's them.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pentagrimes on October 30, 2025, 12:17:34 PM
Ill no doubt get shit for this, but Midnight, Toxic Holocaust and Municipal Waste all belong in this category.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 30, 2025, 12:21:32 PM
I'm a fairly huge Aerosmith fan, but their albums did tend to be uneven. That said, I can very happily listen all the way through to Rocks, Toys in the Attic, Permanent Vacation, and (with a little help from nostalgia) Get A Grip. Also, their Live!Bootleg album is class.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 30, 2025, 12:49:55 PM
QuoteMidnight, Toxic Holocaust and Municipal Waste all belong in this category.

100%

Most of the Retro Thrash acts would be in that file.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: open face surgery on October 30, 2025, 01:19:51 PM
Satanic Royalty is a good buzz by Midnight. Everything else and those other bands are drivel to me.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Sworntothecans on October 30, 2025, 01:30:13 PM
<prepares for the pitchforks>

Anathema & Katatonia. I'll never see the fascination folks have for them. Boring as fuck. I've tried over the years to go back and see what's the hook with them but it's always a nope for me.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 30, 2025, 01:33:38 PM
That's just cos you don't like them then.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: ldj on October 30, 2025, 01:53:36 PM
I saw Katatonia over the summer and while I quite enjoyed their set, any time I've tried their post-death doom stuff I've turned it off.

Think that 'Criminal' song ruined my ability to get into them, awful track.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Ollie on October 30, 2025, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: Thanatos on October 30, 2025, 11:47:34 AMHas anyone mentioned the spectacularly awful Crematory yet? Been going since the very early 90's and have spat out an almost relentless spew of absolute rubbish to this day. They're like all the worst shite you'd see in those old late 90's Nuclear Blast catalogs rolled into one massive cringe inducing package.
I recall reading an article a good few years ago where they were whinging about online piracy, streaming and the likes and how they were threatening to break up if nobody bought their new album.
They're still on the go so there must be people still buying this shite to a level where they can keep going?
I asked a German friend recently if he had any insights into who the culprits are. The only suggestion he could put forward was "Overweight middle aged goths who rarely leave the house?"

They must be one of the most useless, irredeemably shite bands to ever exist?

Just listened to Crematory there. I turned it off after 2 minutes and 21 seconds
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 30, 2025, 04:21:13 PM
Septic Flesh another one
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Mooncat on October 30, 2025, 06:15:49 PM
Aerosmith and AC/DC are wild calls and out of step with what the thread is asking  :laugh:

It's the lowest of low hanging fruit but Five Finger Death Punch qualify as a band with no good albums, but a very generic sound that a lot of kids seem to love/

You could probably put any number of hair metal bands in here too that had something of a career from a popular song or two but no good albums.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: John Kimble on October 30, 2025, 06:31:30 PM
While the lines between 'bands with appalling back catalogues' and 'bands i don't like" are somewhat blurred, FFDP most definitely fall into both categories. I've no doubt they have plenty of (braindead) fans but you'd struggle to find anyone who could convincingly argue they've ever made anything of merit. See also Drowning Pool.
It's a resolute no for bands like Anathema and Katatonia, and this is from someone whose patience has been sorely tested by both and has no inclination whatsoever to hear any new music from either. They both have released classics and again, the good outweighs the bad (not necessarily numerically but you get the idea).
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Squigs on October 31, 2025, 01:28:49 PM
I'd say Cryptopsy fall into this category. NSV undoubtedly one of the greatest DM albums of all time for me, BMF is excellent, the DiSalvo albums - while I love WS, are divisive at best, and everything post Lord Worm initial return is shite/a different band entirely.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on October 31, 2025, 04:41:28 PM
With Cryptopsy it's more of a fall from grace but their classics are undeniable.

In similar boat for me would be Decapitated. The direction up to the third album was amazing - can't listen to the brodude stuff they put out now
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Trev on October 31, 2025, 09:46:16 PM
With Decapitated everything up to and including Organic Halluconosis is brilliant, the post crash stuff is awful, so half great/half shit back catalogue
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Paul keohane on November 01, 2025, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 31, 2025, 04:41:28 PMWith Cryptopsy it's more of a fall from grace but their classics are undeniable.

In similar boat for me would be Decapitated. The direction up to the third album was amazing - can't listen to the brodude stuff they put out now
Yeah couldt agree more, I loved the first 2/3 albums, what came after was unlistenable.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: open face surgery on November 01, 2025, 11:54:14 PM
First 2 are classics, next 2 are great but a different buzz.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Mithrandir on November 02, 2025, 12:46:41 AM
Fuck I hated Whisper Supremacy and Then You'll Beg, they were somehow the first 2 I heard and I wrote off Cryptopsy for years. Then heard None so vile one day and it blew my tits off. First 2 are bangers.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Carnage on November 02, 2025, 01:33:18 AM
Cryptopsy have always been shite, perfect band for this. That bingy bongy bass can eternally fuck off.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Sworntothecans on November 02, 2025, 01:57:57 AM
Quote from: Carnage on November 02, 2025, 01:33:18 AMCryptopsy have always been shite, perfect band for this. That bingy bongy bass can eternally fuck of.

Aye. Never saw the hype at all.

Remember one of the lads going on about how good the lyrics were.
What's the fuckin' point. Yer man lord worm is just gonna butcher the fuck out of them.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Eoin McLove on November 02, 2025, 03:01:12 AM
His delivery is gas, especially on Blackening Made Flesh. Just ludicrous. I haven't listened to it in years but I liked it when I was a young lad.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Paul keohane on November 03, 2025, 10:55:58 AM
Im definitely not a diehard  Cryptopsy fan by any means, dip in and out.

The two times I caught them live (both 2006) they were pretty lethal!
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: open face surgery on November 03, 2025, 11:27:04 AM
Rarely listen to them these days but they were a staple when I was getting into death metal, especially NSV. Thought the gig here in 06 was shite but saw them in 09 or 10 with the new fella and it was great.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on November 03, 2025, 03:38:29 PM
The gig in 2006 was bad alright there was a zillion bands on the bill and most of them were crap. Dew Scented that type of thing. Grave were on the bill and they are a band that slot into the topic nicely here - tonnes of utterly bland albums.


Don't know what it was about Cryptopsy I was so looking forward to it but they just gave me a headache
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on November 03, 2025, 04:39:58 PM
Was it Gorerotted in 06? Truly awful gig, they could go on the list too, actually.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Squigs on November 03, 2025, 05:26:16 PM
They played twice in 2006, once in Feb, once in August. Grave, Aborted, Vesania, Dew Scented, a few others. Huge bill for midweek.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Squigs on November 03, 2025, 05:27:28 PM
That was the Feb show, I wasn't at the Augsut one.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: The Great Cull on November 03, 2025, 05:48:23 PM
They did entertain while introducing Masticated By The Spasticated  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Paul keohane on November 03, 2025, 06:56:59 PM
Ah Gorerotted were great craic live back then!
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: The Great Cull on November 04, 2025, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:30:22 PM
Quote from: Trev on October 25, 2025, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on October 25, 2025, 09:23:36 PMWho are the Swedish lads, playing the same song about war again and again and again? Mystifyingly popular.
Sabaton I'm guessing? Their Carolus Rex album is a great slab of power metal, but they've essentially made the same album 10 or 11 times with diminishing returns every time, they put on a great live show though
That's them.

https://www.loudersound.com/news/sabaton-singer-wants-to-play-gig-normandy-beaches-d-day-2025

The only time I'd like to see these cunts play there would have been on actual D-Day in the hopes they'd be taken out.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Bürggermeister on November 04, 2025, 08:52:56 PM
Shatupon
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Pentagrimes on November 04, 2025, 09:00:50 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on November 03, 2025, 04:39:58 PMWas it Gorerotted in 06? Truly awful gig, they could go on the list too, actually.

Was it them or Desecration had a song called "Dead Bitch in A Skip"? Like a pound shop Cannibal Corpse.

Desecration are one for this list as well actually.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 04, 2025, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on November 03, 2025, 06:56:59 PMAh Gorerotted were great craic live back then!

Truth.
Title: Re: Bands with Appalling Back Catalogues
Post by: Eoin McLove on November 04, 2025, 11:00:58 PM
Their albums are numbskull catchy as hell. I listened to them a few months ago for the first time in a couple of decades and while one spin was all I needed, I enjoyed the experience.