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Title: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on July 30, 2025, 05:41:05 PM
His Category 7 band mates backing him, just three dates so far. This stuff is too good not to play. Anthrax are dicks with their setlists anyways

https://blabbermouth.net/news/john-bush-announces-three-shows-celebrating-his-era-of-anthrax
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Carnage on July 30, 2025, 05:50:00 PM
There's about an hour's worth of decent Bush-era material (as well as The Greater Of Two Evils) so that could be good alright. I'd be surprised if it made it over here, if a tour comes out of it at all. I suppose they'll guage interest by how well those 3 dates sell.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on July 30, 2025, 05:54:54 PM
Ah I think there's more. Sound of White noise is a stone cold classic. Next two are poor but have one or two good tracks WHCFYA is a sting finish for him
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Paul keohane on July 30, 2025, 07:11:08 PM
He's a great singer; but WCFYA is the only thing I liked.I could never get into any of thr other albums.But I can see the appeal for people into those albums.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Carnage on July 30, 2025, 07:27:21 PM
Stomp and Vol. 8 are shite bar 3 songs between them, SOWN and WCFYA have a few decent ones each. I enjoyed TGOAE, always thought he was the best singer they had.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Bürggermeister on July 30, 2025, 07:32:55 PM
Love Bushthrax, the only one of the big 4 to stay decent during the 90's and early 2000s. I would love to see this over here. Won't happen though.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Paul keohane on July 30, 2025, 09:27:21 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on July 30, 2025, 07:32:55 PMthe only one of the big 4 to stay decent during the 90's and early 2000s.
I think your being very generous there lad!
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on July 30, 2025, 09:54:20 PM
Gimme this over Anthrax playing Got the Time and Antisocial over and over
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: The Great Cull on July 30, 2025, 10:03:51 PM
John Bush era is the prime Anthrax. Sound Of White Noise and We've Come For You All are classics. Stomp 442 is deadly too. Volume 8 is flawed but consider what the rest of the big 4 were at in 1997 too. There's some great songs on Volume 8 though. Catharsis, Inside Out...

I've just been listening to The Greater Of Two Evils this evening and it's great.

Anthrax in The Ambassador in 2003 remains one of the best gigs I was ever at. They were amazing that night (and to a half empty Ambassador in 2004 too)

I'd be very keen to see if this comes this side of the Atlantic. I'd head to the UK or mainland Europe to see this. I did think it'd have been Caggiano, Crook, Vera and Dette he'd have with him.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Carnage on July 30, 2025, 10:28:29 PM
SOWN:
Room For One More
Hy Pro Glow
Invisible
1000 Points Of Hate
C₁₁ H₁₇ N₂ O₂ S Na

Stomp 442:
Riding Shotgun

Volume 8:
Crush
Killing Box

WCFYA:
What Doesn't Die
Refuse To Be Denied
Safe Home
Any Place But Here
Nobody Knows Anything
Black Dahlia
Think About An End

That's yer lot.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Bürggermeister on July 30, 2025, 10:39:28 PM
Random Acts of Senseless... VIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOLLLEEEEENNNNNNNNNNCE!

Tune.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: The Great Cull on July 30, 2025, 10:45:30 PM
Quote from: Carnage on July 30, 2025, 10:28:29 PMSOWN:
Room For One More
Hy Pro Glow
Invisible
1000 Points Of Hate
C₁₁ H₁₇ N₂ O₂ S Na

Stomp 442:
Riding Shotgun

Volume 8:
Crush
Killing Box

WCFYA:
What Doesn't Die
Refuse To Be Denied
Safe Home
Any Place But Here
Nobody Knows Anything
Black Dahlia
Think About An End

That's yer lot.

There's another cracking setlist with songs you've missed there too
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on July 31, 2025, 07:04:19 AM
Yeah I agree there's loads of other tunes SOWN is classic from start to finish - how could you leave out Potters Field or Only???

Regardless this is great news, not sure how much mileage he'll get using Category 7 as a backing band - those lads are busy bees. Dette would've been an obvious choice but Crook himself is busy - last I seen he was doing some Meatloaf tribute.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Carnage on July 31, 2025, 08:36:47 AM
I don't like either of those songs, very overrated album in general, that.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Snare on July 31, 2025, 11:02:24 AM
I'm with Pagan Saviour there. Also I'd have Black Lodge in there, 100%.

I'd love to see Bush in action in Europe.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: DaveG on July 31, 2025, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: Snare on July 31, 2025, 11:02:24 AMI'd love to see Bush in action in Europe.

Joey Tempest might have a problem with that.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Snare on July 31, 2025, 11:32:00 AM
 :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Floss on July 31, 2025, 04:04:00 PM
Hope this makes it to Europe, cracking singer and and I love all those Bushthrax albums, some better than others yep but some crackers....
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Sworntothecans on July 31, 2025, 04:56:10 PM
The production on SOWN always annoys me. Jerden doing Dirt (and I think he did an Armoured Saint record) probably pointed them towards hiring him for a new sound but it doesn't suit them despite the songs being great.


Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 14, 2025, 05:44:15 PM
Well this looked fucking great

https://youtu.be/B9BKVvGl_L8?si=kF0tTQwUxiM_OSuy


What a setlist. Hopefully they'll venture beyond the handful of dates, give me this over Anthrax playing Indians and Got the Time every night.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 14, 2025, 06:55:47 PM
I'd buy a ticket for sure. Deadly set.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Snare on December 15, 2025, 11:54:13 PM
Nice one Pagan Saviour. You got your Potter's Field and Only, plus Black Lodge, all in the set list of 16 tracks, I'm sold 👌

Your link took me to this condensed version witha better view and sound:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqfj_KzcJ38&pp=0gcJCSkKAYcqIYzv
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 16, 2025, 09:14:51 AM
Sweet! Sound is much better on that one

Genuinely delighted for him. Such great stuff that Anthrax would never in a million years play. Really hope this could land at least in the UK/Europe


I seen Anthrax played the other night in Indonesia - how stale is this setlist in comparison, they make zero effort.

A.I.R.
Got the Time
Caught in a Mosh
Madhouse
Metal Thrashing Mad
Fight 'Em 'Til You Can't
Breathing Lightning
Keep It in the Family
Be All, End All
Medusa
I Am the Law
I'm the Man
Antisocial
Indians
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 16, 2025, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on December 16, 2025, 09:14:51 AMSweet! Sound is much better on that one

Genuinely delighted for him. Such great stuff that Anthrax would never in a million years play. Really hope this could land at least in the UK/Europe


I seen Anthrax played the other night in Indonesia - how stale is this setlist in comparison, they make zero effort.

A.I.R.
Got the Time
Caught in a Mosh
Madhouse
Metal Thrashing Mad
Fight 'Em 'Til You Can't
Breathing Lightning
Keep It in the Family
Be All, End All
Medusa
I Am the Law
I'm the Man
Antisocial
Indians

And they'll have a new record out next year and Joey will still have them stuck to that set. There was a comment from some tech a while ago on reddit where any mention from Scott & Charlie to change the set causes ructions from Joey so they don't bother. 
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Snare on December 16, 2025, 01:14:11 PM
That's mental. They're only shooting themselves in the foot at this stage. Grow a pair lads.

"So yeah we're touring again - and we want you to pay to watch the exact same show again"  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Trev on December 16, 2025, 01:19:17 PM
Exactly, think I've seen them over here three or four times now between headline shows and support, absolutely zero interest in watching them again
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 16, 2025, 01:22:25 PM
Well believe it. He's been a complete baby about doing any of the Bush stuff. Other singers have no prob doing it, Dickinson doing Blaze or Dianno stuff for example. Vincent doing Tucker era stuff.

Anyone that seen the Big 4 behind the scenes stuff will remember when he was asked to get up and jam Am I Evil, his response was nuts, he'd "Too Much Material" to learn and couldn't have possibly factored in another song. Sure then you see two weeks later he's off doing his Journey cover band thing playing 15-20 songs a night.

Still though, must be boring for Anthrax playing this stuff over and over. I'd personally never go see them again, I caught them because they were on the bill at the last Slayer show here, they played well but awful setlist. 7 songs, two of which were covers Trust and Got the Time? Give it a rest lads.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: jobrok1 on December 16, 2025, 03:38:04 PM
Hpe Bush goes on tour with that. Love most of his 'thrax albums.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 16, 2025, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: jobrok1 on December 16, 2025, 03:38:04 PMHpe Bush goes on tour with that. Love most of his 'thrax albums.

It'd be a better draw than Armored Saint/Category7 in terms of sales.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: The Great Cull on December 16, 2025, 06:09:36 PM
They'd fuck Joey out and go back go Bush in a heartbeat I'd say. Remember they did approach Bush along the way when he filled in at Sonisphere years back and he told them no and fair fuckin balls to him for doing that. Apparently Benante had a meltdown when Bush wouldn't stay.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 16, 2025, 06:21:58 PM
Yeah it's clear they just stick with each other. Both parties bolloxed without the other.

Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: The Great Cull on December 16, 2025, 10:21:21 PM
Bush has a serious band around him now. I did initially hope he'd have both Paul Crook and Jon Dette involved because they had history with Anthrax but Bittner is no slouch and Demmel appears to be able to morph into any role he's required to.

Anthrax in their current form will continue to limp along playing small headline tours and supplementing it by supporting Megadeth, Maiden et al.
While Joey is still a decent singer, his inability to deviate from that setlist is baffling. Going back to the big 4 shows, he wiped his hole with his attempt at Only and he "sang" his bits of Am I Evil sounding like he has a mouthful of chewy sweets... he didn't even form real words for it  :laugh:
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Carnage on December 16, 2025, 10:34:45 PM
Bush was always the better singer, imagine what they'd have been like with him on vocals for the classic albums. The Greater Of Two Evils is mighty, the best thing they recorded with him really - the albums proper are OK to poor.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Paul keohane on December 17, 2025, 05:42:54 AM
Great singer; , ive tried, but most of his era of Anthrax does nothing for me.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2025, 07:25:59 AM
They were always savage live here with Bush. I still enjoy his four albums a lot and that setlist is very much to my tastes. The rerecorded stuff is fucking class, too.

Joey just doesn't like heavy music, I am sure. His recent guest appearance with Pantera, where he hadn't a fucking clue of the two words which make up the chorus to Walk, makes you wonder what the cunt thought he was doing when he went onstage 😂

That being said, the two albums since he came back are alright, without being amazing, and I'll check out the new one whenever they finally release it.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 17, 2025, 09:56:11 AM
QuoteThat being said, the two albums since he came back are alright, without being amazing

Ah they're just ok. I don't think I've ever really gone back to them which says it all.

It seems like Charlie and Scott would rather do anything else. Anthrax is the side gig.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Paul keohane on December 18, 2025, 09:39:48 AM
The two return albums are good, they were better than I expected tbh.

The Bush gig in 03 was class too.

Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Eoin McLove on December 18, 2025, 10:28:51 AM
How does Bush handle the Belladonna stuff? They've both got quite a different range.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Carnage on December 18, 2025, 10:40:22 AM
He handled it well, just listen to The Greatest Of All Evils for instance. Some of those would be my preferred versions of those songs.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 18, 2025, 10:41:13 AM
I thought it was great at the live performances I caught and on record Greater of Two Evils is Brilliant.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 18, 2025, 10:48:59 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RU74oGjNQzE
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Floss on December 19, 2025, 02:44:22 PM
I watched the full LA show footage form the other day - so good. The man is some singer, i love all those Bush era albums, thought they played very well. Id go see that in Ireland any day.
Title: Re: John Bush Does Anthrax
Post by: Pagan Saviour on December 19, 2025, 02:50:13 PM
Seen a clip from Chicago which seems to have gone well too.