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Title: Sodom
Post by: Bogmetaller on July 01, 2025, 07:39:40 AM
Surprised there is no thread for them (couldn't find one when I searched anwyay :-\). New album released a few days ago - probably the only thrash band who never strayed from the formula - people might say Slayer but Diabolus had some weird stuff on it. Definitely the most feral of the German three and possibly the most consistent too.... Thoughts...?
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Mithrandir on July 01, 2025, 08:57:23 AM
What a band! I love/like everything up to Tapping The Vein but haven't really followed anything after that, my main interest with Sodom is 'In The Sign../OBC' anyway, doesn't get any more metal than that period, visually or sonically.

In the Sign of Evil is my all time favourite EP, lost my shit when they played Burst Command at the show in Dublin with Gospel of the Horns, from memory they hadn't played it on that tour so was a ripper surprise.


Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Circlepit on July 01, 2025, 09:59:48 AM
Brilliant band.
I was listening to M-16 yesterday. Some killer songs. The cover of Surfing Bird is terrible.
First 4/5 albums at all classics .
They can be hit and miss but still the best of the German big 3.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 10:02:22 AM
I'm no exist by any means but In the Sign of Evil is fucking savage and Obsessed by Cruelty isn't far behind. Persecution Mania sounds good too so I'll have to pick it up at some stage. It's still nice and loosey goosey
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: jobrok1 on July 01, 2025, 10:13:00 AM
Had a listen through a few of the new songs the other day.
Sounding well good, to be fair.
More Slayer than Slayer on their last 3 albums.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Carnage on July 01, 2025, 10:39:31 AM
In The Sign Of Evil and Persecution Mania were the two I really got into back in the day, savage stuff, absolutely their finest hour(s) IMO. Code Red and Epitome Of Torture their best since for me.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Pentagrimes on July 01, 2025, 10:48:51 AM
the run from Obsessed (the original version - the one where they're in the lower tuning and it's filthy as fuck) to Agent Orange is fantastic, all I need by them.

Absolutely could not give a fuck about In The Sign of Evil, it's up there with INRI in terms of mediocre shite that's become massively overrated over the years
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 11:00:53 AM
INRI also kicks hoop. What is this nonsense??
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Pentagrimes on July 01, 2025, 11:06:35 AM
No, it doesn't. it's just very fast and they look cool. Bestial Devestation murders it.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 11:11:29 AM
I wouldn't have said that speed is a particularly defining factor, rather that loose but intense playing and very very catchy song writing, all imbued with total evility.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 11:11:50 AM
Or is that evilitiness...
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Pentagrimes on July 01, 2025, 11:19:30 AM
The lyrics are spectacular. I'll give it that. Not to derail the thread entirely but Rotting and The Laws of Scourge are cool, INRI just never grabbed me, I dont find it catchy at all.

Anyway, Sodom - shout out for Expurse of Sodomy, that ep always gets over looked and My Atonement is a banger
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Trev on July 01, 2025, 11:40:41 AM
They're a band I've seen loads of times at festivals and always enjoyed, never actually properly checked out their albums though
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Carnage on July 01, 2025, 11:58:25 AM
Both INRI and Bestial Devastation are unlistenably shite.

Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 01, 2025, 11:19:30 AMThe lyrics are spectacular. I'll give it that. Not to derail the thread entirely but Rotting and The Laws of Scourge are cool, INRI just never grabbed me, I dont find it catchy at all.

Anyway, Sodom - shout out for Expurse of Sodomy, that ep always gets over looked and My Atonement is a banger

The Expurse... tracks are tacked onto most CD/tape versions of Persecution Mania, mighty stuff. The Outbreak Of Evil rerecording is sweet (I always thought that was for the EP but it was just a bonus track).
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Circlepit on July 01, 2025, 11:59:55 AM
Masquerade In Blood is a ripper as well.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Ducky on July 01, 2025, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Carnage on July 01, 2025, 11:58:25 AMBoth INRI and Bestial Devastation are unlistenably shite.

Amen to that. Never got the buzz of listening to lads who barely know how to hold their instruments trying to write music. The drumming on INRI in particular is fucking embarrassing.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 01:53:19 PM
Ah Ducky, we all know M. Pinkerton Von Poloneck could run rings around DD Crazy on the drum kit, but give me the explosive helldrums every time. Unfettered spirit of metal > earphone wearing click track wankery 4 eva  8)
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: open face surgery on July 01, 2025, 03:07:02 PM
Without question.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Ducky on July 01, 2025, 03:08:16 PM
Well yeah, but hook it up like Igor did back then. Lad was obliterating his drumkit unga-bunga metal style, but he also learned to play it 8)

Sarcofago's lad sounds like he picked up the sticks for the first time a week before he entered the studio.

In keeping with the thread, Witchunter's drumming on those first few Sodom albums is leagues ahead of what was happening with Sarcofago, and the music still sounds feral.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Pentagrimes on July 01, 2025, 03:09:12 PM
"This week on Drumeo: M Pinkerton Von Poloneck hears Sodom's "Deathlike Silence" for the first time"
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Ducky on July 01, 2025, 03:13:47 PM
 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 01, 2025, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 01, 2025, 03:09:12 PM"This week on Drumeo: M Pinkerton Von Poloneck hears Sodom's "Deathlike Silence" for the first time"

 :laugh:  :laugh:

Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 08:47:14 PM
I would watch it.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Anvil on July 01, 2025, 09:33:09 PM
Probably listened to Agent Orange most over the years, Remember the Fallen and the title track being my favourites. Better Off Dead and M-16 are the only post Agent Orange albums I own.  Don't think you can go wrong with any of their 80's output.     
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: leatherface on July 01, 2025, 10:04:31 PM
In The Sign Of Evil and Obsessed By Cruelty are amazing , Better Off Dead too.



Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Mithrandir on July 02, 2025, 12:12:33 AM
In the sign, INRI and bestial devastation unlistenable?!?!? This place should change its name to Poser Warfare  >:(  >:(  Chaotic incompetent fury til dessssss  :abbath:
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: mickO))) on July 02, 2025, 02:40:54 AM
Crust and Hate have always been the best Sarcofago releases.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Bogmetaller on July 02, 2025, 09:35:54 AM
There's a video on YouTube of Sodom playing the Rock Hard festival in 23- Savage stuff altogether.....
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Thanatos on July 02, 2025, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 01:53:19 PMAh Ducky, we all know M. Pinkerton Von Poloneck could run rings around DD Crazy on the drum kit, but give me the explosive helldrums every time. Unfettered spirit of metal > earphone wearing click track wankery 4 eva  8)

A drummer struggling to keep up is the key ingredient for most proper thrash.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Pentagrimes on July 02, 2025, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: Thanatos on July 02, 2025, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 01:53:19 PMAh Ducky, we all know M. Pinkerton Von Poloneck could run rings around DD Crazy on the drum kit, but give me the explosive helldrums every time. Unfettered spirit of metal > earphone wearing click track wankery 4 eva  8)

A drummer struggling to keep up is the key ingredient for most proper thrash.

In the case of Obsessed it's more the others are trying to keep up with him, which is why it sounds so absolutely feral. Same with Pleasure to Kill and Terrible Certainty actually. I imagine amphetamines were quite popular with German thrash drummers in the mid 80s,and I'm delighted that was the case.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: astfgyl on July 02, 2025, 07:06:01 PM
I bought a double CD live album of these lads years ago off a lad and I couldn't get the buzz at all to the extent I've never heard a single studio recording of them after it.

And I'd seen the name written on so many green canvas schoolbags that I'm surprised I never tried it
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Thanatos on July 03, 2025, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on July 02, 2025, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: Thanatos on July 02, 2025, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 01, 2025, 01:53:19 PMAh Ducky, we all know M. Pinkerton Von Poloneck could run rings around DD Crazy on the drum kit, but give me the explosive helldrums every time. Unfettered spirit of metal > earphone wearing click track wankery 4 eva  8)

A drummer struggling to keep up is the key ingredient for most proper thrash.

In the case of Obsessed it's more the others are trying to keep up with him, which is why it sounds so absolutely feral. Same with Pleasure to Kill and Terrible Certainty actually. I imagine amphetamines were quite popular with German thrash drummers in the mid 80s,and I'm delighted that was the case.

I suppose the key element is that everything has to sound like everything could fall apart at any second. But the drummer is usually the main contributor.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: Born of Fire on July 03, 2025, 07:57:03 PM
Speaking of absolutely feral....

Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: The Great Cull on July 03, 2025, 09:41:01 PM
Sodom would be my favourite of the big 3 German thrash bands. I always viewed them as a thrashier German version of Motorhead. Not heard anything past M16 by them though. Persecution Mania, Agent Orange and Better Off Dead would be the main albums for me.
Title: Re: Sodom
Post by: astfgyl on July 05, 2025, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Born of Fire on July 03, 2025, 07:57:03 PMSpeaking of absolutely feral....



That whole song sounds like it's falling down the stairs. In a good way