Lost the plot altogether- one of the first comments says "sounds like Eurovision shit" not wrong
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2yayUQhH-N0&pp=ygUMbWFjaGluZSBoZWFk
I hate this a lot
He's even 5 years too late jumping on the nu metal revival.
Morto for the other lads who can't find a better band to earn a living from.
Imagine in your 50s, having written songs for as long as he has been at it, to be pumping out the kind of teenage level lyrics he does at this point. Shameless he is. Don't worry, he'll be a metal saviour with a designer patch jacket again before we know it.
To be honest that's what I thought this would be, he had Vogg in the lineup for a bit, was shiteing on about how much Slayer influenced the new record then this.
He must be gone Alan Partridge mental, for those lads McClain Demmel Duce etc to all have jumped ship, run away from steady pay.
That chorus is an absolute ripoff and I can't figure out who did it first
Bønerscraper
Total shite
Great comments though.
"please no more catharsis..." :laugh:
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 05, 2025, 10:09:56 AMGreat comments though.
"please no more catharsis..." :laugh:
Remember when that came out someone on here was calling it Cat Arses :laugh:
Barrelscraper
Suprised Flynn hasn't hopped on the sleep Token bandwagon with masks and marketing to emo girls on Tik Tok.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on April 05, 2025, 11:14:47 AMSuprised Flynn hasn't hopped on the sleep Token bandwagon with masks and marketing to emo girls on Tik Tok.
Give him 5 years. That's how long it usually takes for his cutting edge ideas to come to fruition.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 05, 2025, 08:51:55 AMMorto for the other lads who can't find a better band to earn a living from.
I'm low-key relieved to see someone with Vogg's talent has managed to escape this glorified cowpat of a band.
I thought they'd got back with Kontos and Logan Mader?
That was a short term thing for a Burn My Eyes' anniversary tour.
The album is called Unatoned - nearly as stupid a name as Replentless.
Kontos is in Forbidden now, as is Dan Mongrain I believe
Quote from: The Great Cull on April 05, 2025, 12:42:39 PMKontos is in Forbidden now, as is Dan Mongrain I believe
Wow, I was pretty skeptical about them going on without Russ Anderson but that's certainly got my interest piqued
The live stuff's pretty good. He'll never be up to Anderson's standard but isn't far off.
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Whatever about the music, that's a lost cause. What is he waving his hands about for in some shots like he is delivering the one and only gospel.
Someone in his camp should tell him to ease off and perhaps it won't look so gimpy.
They can phrase it in more presentable way but for fuck sake stop acting like such a cunt.
Haha what a dose of a man!, the 5 years reinventing is gas! :laugh:
Quote from: Circlepit on April 06, 2025, 12:28:37 AMWhatever about the music, that's a lost cause. What is he waving his hands about for in some shots like he is delivering the one and only gospel.
Someone in his camp should tell him to ease off and perhaps it won't look so gimpy.
They can phrase it in more presentable way but for fuck sake stop acting like such a cunt.
That ship has sailed, lad.
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Sailed, lost at sea, taking on water, no life jackets and the mast is on fire.
That photo has to be from the burning red tour cycle.
I bought that album and tried to convince myself it was good.
Never heard Supercharger. I remember getting Through The Ashes Of Empires when it came out and thinking this is perfect for Saturday night cans etc.
Wrong.
Impossible to have a beer when I'm waving my hands around non stop.
shouldn't this be in the Ridiculous and unintentionally hilarious music thread
The 5 years too late for every bandwagon is spot on. Anyone remember the infamous "For every fan that wants a song from Burn My Eyes, there's ten wanting a song from Supercharger" :laugh: . They were dropped a few months later. :laugh: Then tried to blame it on 9/11 :laugh: Then came back as Bullet for my Valentine. :laugh:
His next album should be just about on time to invent djent.
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And also, any excuse to whip this out but I wonder how many riffs he'll rip off this time?
He was recently on that Garza podcast. No interest in watching that episode myself but have seen this headline for it - Machine Head's Robb Flynn Hit Rock Bottom: 'I Got Naked, Screamed, And Cried For Hours' :laugh:
What an image.
He's been saying that for at least 20 years, even the emo kids he was trying to impress with that have grown up.
Quote from: mickO))) on April 07, 2025, 11:21:36 AMHe was recently on that Garza podcast. No interest in watching that episode myself but have seen this headline for it - Machine Head's Robb Flynn Hit Rock Bottom: 'I Got Naked, Screamed, And Cried For Hours' :laugh:
Quote from: Carnage on April 07, 2025, 11:59:51 AMHe's been saying that for at least 20 years, even the emo kids he was trying to impress with that have grown up.
He's banking on the obsession with 90s Roadrunner that yank hardcore/metalcore kids in their teens/early 20s seem to have at the moment will translate into sales.
I saw a bit of that Garza episode on YouTube.
I'm not sure why I put myself through it. It's every bit as bad as you would expect.
The host is blowing a lot of smoke up Rob's hole and you can see him getting a horn .
The big question; Was Burn My Eyes a cold and calculated fluke?
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on April 07, 2025, 02:58:46 PMThe big question; Was Burn My Eyes a cold and calculated fluke?
Hard to say, The More Things Change has some killer songs.
It definitely went to shit after that stayed that way .
Burn My Eyes still holds up. The end of A Nation On Fire is brilliant.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on April 07, 2025, 02:58:46 PMThe big question; Was Burn My Eyes a cold and calculated fluke?
Dunno about calculated but yeah, it was a fluke. Can remember the disappointment with The More Things Change when I first heard it. Thought it might be a grower at the time but no. Dull as fuck and it was only downhill from there.
BME can't be a fluke as it's consistent with the rest of their discography - namely it's shite.
I still think The More Things Change is every bit as good as Burn My Eyes, I'd go so far as to say it flows better as an album than the debut. There's even a riff on it that instantly brought Bolt Thrower to mind (though that may be to do with Colin Richardson's involvement), I can't remember what song it's in.
Burn My Eyes is deadly. I wouldn't say it's a fluke as there's a couple of great tracks on the second album. It was a noticeable step down though.
Quote from: Ducky on April 07, 2025, 03:38:38 PMBME can't be a fluke as it's consistent with the rest of their discography - namely it's shite.
Zing!
Along with the first two I always liked Through the Ashes of Empires, probably because Rob was jumping on the Killswitch bandwagon and I was big into them at that time
The More... really suffered from the hype and delays , I think Sneap basically rescued the record after Richardson and Flynn had a falling out and Roadrunner had sank a fair bit of cash already.
It's still a decent album,just too fucking long for its own good.
Quote from: Circlepit on April 07, 2025, 04:38:36 PMQuote from: Ducky on April 07, 2025, 03:38:38 PMBME can't be a fluke as it's consistent with the rest of their discography - namely it's shite.
Zing!
Blood For Blood's okay. And Bay of Pigs. Aesthetics of Hate is also the only time the cunt ever sounded genuine.
There's just something I find intensely irritating about the music. I mentioned it before - maybe someone with a better grasp of theory can explain it better - but his choice of notes and progressions makes me want to poke myself in the ears. Seems like a fella who learned how to coax sounds out of the guitar, rather than play music on it. Not to mention the avalanche of squealies.
He also can't sing for shit, and the lyrics are obviously shite as well.
Kontos and McClain are the lads though, some great drumming on display.
Ah now, BME has some great riffs.
I remember Aesthetics Of Hate videos having hand waving galore.
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Dug a load of CDs out of the attic and reached for Burn/More Things. Haven't listened to either in an age but in the cold light of day I'd 100% agree with this..
QuoteI still think The More Things Change is every bit as good as Burn My Eyes, I'd go so far as to say it flows better as an album than the debut
Burn still holds up somewhat - but it ends with Nation on Fire, it completely runs out of steam after that, the last four tracks are half baked. The instrumental with the dopey title Realise Real Eyes or whatever sounds like a rehearsal jam that should've stayed there, and one of the other tracks has the riff from Spirit in Black. No denying the everlasting quality of Davidian, Old etc such well constructed tunes.
But you could be right about More Things Change, I remember being completely disappointed by it but it is definitely a more consistent record. It may not hit the heights Burn did, but all the songs are of a consistent standard. I fancied a nostalgia trip and thought both would be a one time listen but I think I'll be listening to More Things Change again.
Blood For Blood I like and Block is alright too, but Real Eyes... and I'm Your God Now are total filler indeed. An album that could do with a trim and maybe reordering the songs would improve it.
Real Eyes... is filler. I never really liked Old either. I think the rest is good to Gagarin.
The More Things Change... was disappointing to me when it came out but it's so long since I've heard it I might have to revisit it and reassess. Maybe...
Probably one for the controversial metal opinions thread but I used to enjoy The Burning Red. I actually prefer it over The More Things Change, an album that was a weak follow up to Burn My Eyes. Granted, The Burning Red, is them at their Nu Metal copycat stage but there's some good songs on there. There's no forgiving that Police cover though.
Haven't listened to it in years.
The only other album worth any time is Through The Ashes Of Empires but it's not like it gets regular listens. Never understood the love for The Blackening. Thought it was shite and I lost track of how many releases there was after that apart from laughing that catharsis sounds like cat arses :laugh:
There's a couple of bits on Burning Red but it's so contrived it's hard to enjoy it. Robb literally looks at what else is going on with other more successful acts and follows suit. Last one I bought was Supercharger which was abysmal - couldn't ever listen to it again. Heard scraps of Ashes and knew it wasn't worth any time. Genuinely couldn't tell you what came after that until that Catharsis album came out and Robb was making a plonker of himself every other day
First two are mostly good with the odd dud and I used to like The Burning Red but it's so long since I heard it I'll probably just leave it there.
Think I'll lash on TMTC when I'm out just to see
I thought The Burning Red was cool when it came out. I even liked the Police cover. Every time this conversation comes around I say, I must revisit it (much like with The More Things Change) and then I exit the thread and come back to my senses :laugh:
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I have The More Things Change on here it's actually grand though
I liked The Burning Red myself, have the one with the red CD slipcase which looked cool, a layer of dust on it now no doubt. I liked The Blackening too but that's as far as I went.
I'm not sure I could go back now knowing just how much of an idiot Rob Flynn is. It would lift me right out of the music (and I am definitely normally in the camp of being totally fine with separating the art from the artist. Though what does it say about me that I'm more affected by someone being an annoying asshole than by people who have done much worse...)
The hype around The Blackening was fun, it felt like everyone was talking about it at the time, but it was definitely shite. A real pro-tools, riffs glued together type effort.
They seemed to be at every metal festival going back in the day, always about 3 bands from the top. Usually always a decent watch.