Anyone else looking forward to this, Bio of Jon Nodtveidt of Dissection.
15 years of research but looks like it will finally be released this year.
:: Announcement ::
Book is done. Only a prologue is left to be written, and final corrections, selection of pictures, and a suitable publisher to define. Also might add last minute collaborations. Expect a release for this year, at least thats my aim.
15 years of research, 7-8 months of proper writing.
Thanks for the support to all that stood by this project and Jon's career, life, death & legacy.
More info will be announced in due time.
Note: This picture is a random one of archival material, proper credits will be in the book. BTW, title of the book will be announced before publication, and no, it's not "Book of Chaos" (working title).
Was listening to Storm Of The Lightsbane on the way home this evening,
He was and is amazing. This will have to be bought.
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-Played some weak-sounding melodic black metal, including a tune that sounds like circus music ("Where Dead Angels Lie")
-Outed himself as a homophobic piece of human detritus.
-Spent time in the slammer.
-Got out and made even weedier music than before.
-"Satun muh dark lord", did the world a favour and offed himself.
-Fin.
I'll definitely read it, but I hope it's not some hero-worship piece and really gets into the nitty gritty.
Yeah I'd be interested too. Definitely a case where artist and art should be separated.
Like yourself hope it isn't a worship piece - first two albums are stone cold classics but to this day that third album is one of the worst things I've ever heard
I like the third album - felt like their version of Heartwork, a much more classic metal style I was fine with it. But avoided for years as it had such a bad rep.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on February 02, 2025, 04:18:45 PMYeah I'd be interested too. Definitely a case where artist and art should be separated.
Like yourself hope it isn't a worship piece - first two albums are stone cold classics but to this day that third album is one of the worst things I've ever heard
Really don't understand the hate that album gets,the first two set the bar so high it was always doomed to reach those heights with that 7 year break.
I remember an old interview before he went to jail and the 3rd album was to sound more like SOTLB but I guess things change over time.
I think the book is about Dissection at least I hope so as I have no interest in that MLO stuff.
Quote from: jpm4 on February 02, 2025, 05:04:43 PMI like the third album - felt like their version of Heartwork, a much more classic metal style I was fine with it. But avoided for years as it had such a bad rep.
Reinkaos is savage.Heaps of hooks all over it.
Quote from: Circlepit on February 01, 2025, 10:51:09 PMWas listening to Storm Of The Lightsbane on the way home this evening,
He was and is amazing. This will have to be bought.
I should clarify, his own personal beliefs are not for me.
The third album is brilliant.
As said already the art and the artist have to be separated.
That topic is worth it's own thread.
You shouldn't have to clarify that.
Quote from: jpm4 on February 02, 2025, 05:04:43 PMI like the third album - felt like their version of Heartwork, a much more classic metal style I was fine with it. But avoided for years as it had such a bad rep.
Good comparison cause Heartwork is cuntish as well.
Heartwork is the first Carcass album I heard, still think it's savage.
Surely his radical belief system is all a part of what made him and his music and his precocious talent so compelling, not to mention the fact that he stepped over the line and killed somebody because he was so obsessed and/or brainwashed by his beliefs. I don't understand why people would want to read an edited, sanitised version of his biography that excludes a hugely important component of his personality rather than the actual real unvarnished account... weird. And to have to qualify your reading of his biography by saying you don't agree with his philosophy... well nobody thinks you do. Nobody fucking knows you exist! It's a book about Jon Nodtveidt, not about you! :laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 03, 2025, 10:18:08 PMSurely his radical belief system is all a part of what made him and his music and his precocious talent so compelling, not to mention the fact that he stepped over the line and killed somebody because he was so obsessed and/or brainwashed by his beliefs. I don't understand why people would want to read an edited, sanitised version of his biography that excludes a hugely important component of his personality rather than the actual real unvarnished account... weird. And to have to qualify your reading of his biography by saying you don't agree with his philosophy... well nobody thinks you do. Nobody fucking knows you exist! It's a book about Jon Nodtveidt, not about you! :laugh:
I'm not sure I exist either.
There's only one Dissection album made by someone who has actually murdered someone and it wasn't worth wank.
But the boy who made the two classic BM releases under the Dissection banner became the man who murdered someone, went to jail, did his time and was released, produced a divisive album and then killed himself in a ritual satanic suicide. It's all the same person following the same left hand path philosophy, going deeper into it until he met with his own demise possibly because of it. His outlook on life is inextricably linked to his creations. Anyway, whatever, it might be an interesting read and I think a comprehensive look at his influences, including musical ones, and his esoteric practices culminating in murder and suicide, if handled well by a skilled writer could prove to be fascinating.
I don't know if it is "all the same person", but that's also why a well-researched and written book could be interesting. Notably, is it known to what extent Nodtveidt may have been progressively "groomed" by yer man Vlad? The Somberlain and Storm of the Light's Bane were both written and recorded before that whole Satanic cult thing really got going, certainly by what I ever understood primarily under the vision of said Vlad who was both the "official" and seemingly unofficial mastermind and leader of both the cult and the murder.
Well I hope they don't go into it and just stick to the basics. He liked Iron Maiden. That kind of stuff :laugh:
I only listen to Dissection the odd time because melodic BM and DM is generally not what I'm after so I think that the goings on behind the scenes is what is really interesting. The dude has talent, absolutely, he was maybe even gifted you might say but there was a kind of tension there between his self destructive, and otherwise destructive, beliefs and the success of his band. The two seem at odds to me. I think it's all of the paradoxes of his life that could make for an interesting story. Fuck it sure, I am going to lob on Storm... now. Not quite ready to commit murder yet but it's only Tuesday so early days.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 03, 2025, 10:18:08 PMSurely his radical belief system is all a part of what made him and his music and his precocious talent so compelling, not to mention the fact that he stepped over the line and killed somebody because he was so obsessed and/or brainwashed by his beliefs. I don't understand why people would want to read an edited, sanitised version of his biography that excludes a hugely important component of his personality rather than the actual real unvarnished account... weird. And to have to qualify your reading of his biography by saying you don't agree with his philosophy... well nobody thinks you do. Nobody fucking knows you exist! It's a book about Jon Nodtveidt, not about you! :laugh:
I don't think anyone was saying they wanted to read a sanitized version. When I was saying I hoped it wasn't a hero worship piece I was specifically meaning I hope they get into all the specific details of his beliefs and actions. It would be impossible to do a biography without that, but I was hoping they don't gloss over anything and really get into the murky depths of it all. That would be one of the most interesting parts!
Very unlikely to be much if anything in the book about the MLO especially if Vlad had any involvement in this. Not sure if he has but he owns all the rights to Dissections music. If you want to read about that plenty of books out there on the topic even some written by Vlad himself and he has a new one coming out this year that was suppose to be out last year. Reinkaos is great both musically and lyrically but I guess it's not for everyone.
Would much rather see that DVD of the final show in Sweden before he died be released than this book but that more than likely won't ever be released. The interview that was included in the rebirth DVD is very good.
Huge fan of the first two albums!,essential really!.I'd have no interest in reading the bio though.
Quote from: mickO))) on February 04, 2025, 08:40:05 PMVery unlikely to be much if anything in the book about the MLO especially if Vlad had any involvement in this. Not sure if he has but he owns all the rights to Dissections music. If you want to read about that plenty of books out there on the topic even some written by Vlad himself and he has a new one coming out this year that was suppose to be out last year. Reinkaos is great both musically and lyrically but I guess it's not for everyone.
Would much rather see that DVD of the final show in Sweden before he died be released than this book but that more than likely won't ever be released. The interview that was included in the rebirth DVD is very good.
Someone did a 4k upscale of that DVD on YouTube. 'tis savage.
Yeah thankfully that 2004 gig was recorded.
Was lucky enough to go to that gig but mostly a blur and only remember in it parts from a red eye flight and a lot of drink that weekend.
From what I do remember of that gig the venue was rocking that night,a brilliant set list too,mostly songs from the first two albums.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on February 04, 2025, 10:18:11 PMQuote from: mickO))) on February 04, 2025, 08:40:05 PMVery unlikely to be much if anything in the book about the MLO especially if Vlad had any involvement in this. Not sure if he has but he owns all the rights to Dissections music. If you want to read about that plenty of books out there on the topic even some written by Vlad himself and he has a new one coming out this year that was suppose to be out last year. Reinkaos is great both musically and lyrically but I guess it's not for everyone.
Would much rather see that DVD of the final show in Sweden before he died be released than this book but that more than likely won't ever be released. The interview that was included in the rebirth DVD is very good.
Someone did a 4k upscale of that DVD on YouTube. 'tis savage.
I watched that a few weeks ago myself actually - fantastic gig.
They are taking pre orders today for anyone interested.
64 euro p&p to Ireland.
Out Oct 22nd.
https://darknessshallrise.de/product/far-beyond-all-light-the-life-death-and-legacy-of-jon-nodtveidt-and-dissection-hardcover-book-pre-order/?v=25400724d737 (https://darknessshallrise.de/product/far-beyond-all-light-the-life-death-and-legacy-of-jon-nodtveidt-and-dissection-hardcover-book-pre-order/?v=25400724d737)
ART I: FEAR THE RETURN
CHAPTER XI - Far Beyond All Light.
CHAPTER X - Eleven To Kill the Ten.
CHAPTER IX - The Prison Years.
PART II: THE PRIEST OF SATAN
CHAPTER I - Restless and Wild.
CHAPTER II - Fireborn.
CHAPTER III - Enter the Eternal Night.
CHAPTER IV - The Beginning of the End of the First Era.
CHAPTER V - Storming the Gates.
CHAPTER VI - "The Scythe is Raised"
CHAPTER VII - The Public Enemy.
CHAPTER VIII - Return to Chaos.
Fuck that. Ridiculous price.
I'd quite like to read this and the upcoming Schuldiner bio but I'd imagine that'd be a similar price and it's way beyond my budget tbh. Ah well.
I was going to pre order it, but decided to ask Darragh if he was going to get this book in to distribute on Invictus and it turns out he is, in case anyone is interested.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on August 13, 2025, 08:15:07 PMI'd quite like to read this and the upcoming Schuldiner bio but I'd imagine that'd be a similar price and it's way beyond my budget tbh. Ah well.
Suggest it as a purchase for your local library service. Their Intellectual Freedom, and Diversity and Inclusion policies usually mean stuff like this has a good chance of getting in.
Not big on books like this unless the band are interesting. I love Immolation but I can imagine the book they recently released putting me to sleep. I ordered the Dissection book can't wait to get it. €50 odd for a 200+ page hardcover book is a very decent price and actully on the cheap end of things when it comes to hardcover books not to mention the amount of work that went into this over the last decade.
The store has a massive selection of stuff so order some good music like the Arckanum reissues and make the postage worthwhile.
Ordered the Hammer of Damnation book from them recently and its very well done. Can also confirmed it was very well packed.
Finally got the Dissection book yesterday. I have just flicked through it so far and it looks great. Some great photos including one of John with short hair slicked back which I have never seen before. It's always either been long hair or a shaved head. Another of him in prison with a black eye.
The only criticism I would have is I expected more photos but the I Am The Great Shadow book has tonnes of pictures.
For those asking about the MLO they have a few bits and pieces at the end which are extracts from interviews with John and Set were they go into a small bit of detail on it and it's nothing that Vlad has written about in any of his books more of a basic explanation of what they believe / a bit more detail on the meaning behind some of the songs on Reinkaos.
If you are a Dissection fan then I would suggest getting this along with the I Am The Great Shadow (that is if you can find it anywhere).
The 1st edition of Far Beyond Light has already sold out but DSR are currently taking pre-orders for a reprint which I think will be out once the webstore reopens next week.
Keep us updated, I'm still mulling over buying this one. Last I checked it was a ridiculous price, but if it was excellent I might still consider buying it.
I read a review saying it's absolute shit, I can't remember where.
Skims over the albums and quite disjointed in the approach.
I'd still like to get it though to see for myself.
I've heard nothing but bad reviews of it.
Yeah I've seen people say there is zero critical analysis of Nodveidt's behaviour/ mental state. It's just a big dick suck.
I read it over the holidays - its a big dick suck, exactly. It's disjointed and not very well written and very unbalanced. The stuff about the early years and during the recording the albums is what interested me and that's nice to read and good commentary from those that were around or in the band at the time. I cant say I came away from reading the book with a new appreciation for the guy - a lot of the mentality seems very gang-ish and immature to be honest (I guess they were pretty young to be fair) but still, the coverage of the murder is deliberately glossed over. I dunno... it certainly wasnt a brilliant read and I doubt i will re-read it in a few years time. The gig in Whelans all those years ago was one of my fav shows ever, but the guy clearly had a lot of issues (duh) and i find it hard to listen to them anymore really, pity, there was some great music in there. A few rare recordings are referred to in the book which i found on Youtube and they were cool to hear.
A load of rare and unreleased stuff was included with the tape box set. I would be very interested in seeing the Maha Kali music video that is mentioned but I guess just like the DVD of the final show it will never be released.
I bought the book but havent got round to reading it yet, need to finish off another book before I dig into this.
Was there any mention about his dislike for Soul Reaper that formed by ex members while he was locked up?
Ya i think they get shit on somewhere alright :laugh: