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Title: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Don Gately on January 07, 2025, 09:11:08 PM
Like we have Tool, Metallica, a thread about Whiplash often appears, like who gives a fuck about this? Plenty of real bands out there I hope.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Giggles on January 07, 2025, 10:00:08 PM
I don't see the issue. It's not like the gig listings forum is littered with shows. The most current page goes as far back as September.

If you were a member of one of those bands, would you not want your metal covers gig listed on an Irish metal forum?

'Who gives a fuck about these bands?'
Well, I do anyway. I wouldn't travel across the country just to see a covers band, but if I'm visiting a town I'd like to know if there are metal gigs on, covers or not.

And yes, I'm sure there are plenty of 'real' bands out there, but I don't think a lot of local gigs are advertised on here. Sure H doesn't even promote DME on here anymore. Probably cos the average user on here is about 50 years old and doesn't go to gigs anymore 🤷
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Don Gately on January 07, 2025, 10:41:19 PM
That age group is most prevalent at gigs I'd say.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: son of the Morrigan on January 08, 2025, 12:22:22 AM
I like a good cover band, if I had the choice now between seeing, say, Metallica from half a mile away, playing whatever their latest dross is, surrounded by 50.000 gobshites or a Metallica cover band close up, playing all the classics, surrounded by 300 actual metal fans I'd choose the cover band all day.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 08, 2025, 01:31:17 AM
H can't promote DME here due to his employers unless it's through official socials.

Maybe do a local covers thread in the gig section.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 08, 2025, 06:06:39 AM
I'm with Don. Can't stand covers bands. They're maybe one level above a wedding band.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Don Gately on January 08, 2025, 08:05:08 AM
Like there's a place for it and I know some musicians use it for a bit of cash but really who the fuck wants to know about a fucking Thin Lizzy or Black Sabbath cover band in Dolans or in Drogheda or wherever. And that guy who said he'd rather see a Metallica cover band than the real thing because for some reason he stayed half mile back from the stage you must be joking?
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Anvil on January 08, 2025, 09:21:14 AM
Really don't see the issue.  They aren't making gigs by "real bands" less visible.  Indeed they are probably increasing traffic to that area of the forum as it looks busier. 
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Giggles on January 08, 2025, 05:03:18 PM
Why do you hate cover bands so much Don? And whereabouts in the country do you live, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: The Heretic on January 08, 2025, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on January 08, 2025, 12:22:22 AMI like a good cover band, if I had the choice now between seeing, say, Metallica from half a mile away, playing whatever their latest dross is, surrounded by 50.000 gobshites or a Metallica cover band close up, playing all the classics, surrounded by 300 actual metal fans I'd choose the cover band all day.

Yep!
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 09, 2025, 07:09:01 AM
Ah no the Gobshites at covers gigs are worse.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: KingHostile on January 09, 2025, 07:57:13 AM
yep! defo should be featured!
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: mickO))) on January 09, 2025, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 08, 2025, 01:31:17 AMH can't promote DME here due to his employers unless it's through official socials.

Where did you hear this? I just assumed he wasn't bothered anymore due to the gig section especially having very little activity. Bit weird if that is true since a fella who worked directly for Ticketmaster use to post about shows on the old forum.

Anyway his shows get plenty of promotion on here from myself and a handful of others.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 09, 2025, 12:10:01 PM
Think it was either here or when he was on Feckin Metal Podcast. MCD would be anti forums going back to the Oxygen shit show on Boards.ie
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: mickO))) on January 09, 2025, 12:45:00 PM
I remember that podcast someone posted it on here a while ago they both had the same name I think I remember your man going on about it at the beginning. Seems to be a lot of restrictions on him since making that deal like no more tickets.ie only TM with it's greedy fees and now dynamic pricing which looks to have worked against TM as Pantera most likely would be sold out now had it not been for the bullshit that went on.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Mooncat on January 09, 2025, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 09, 2025, 12:10:01 PMThink it was either here or when he was on Feckin Metal Podcast. MCD would be anti forums going back to the Oxygen shit show on Boards.ie


What happened there?

Quote from: Anvil on January 08, 2025, 09:21:14 AMReally don't see the issue.  They aren't making gigs by "real bands" less visible.  Indeed they are probably increasing traffic to that area of the forum as it looks busier. 

Nothing more than me showing my age and some wistful nostalgia, but I do miss the days when the MetalIreland gig section was absolutely hiving. It felt like the entire local scene revolved around it and you'd be checking every day to see what local shows were on. Like a little mini local scene monoculture that has long since dissipated across social media.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 09, 2025, 08:17:49 PM
Basically after Oxygen in 2005/2006(?), loads of folks who'd been through the absolute clusterfuck of it went on boards to vent.

MCD took umbrage and got the libel lawyers in and you weren't allowed to mention them without the threat of getting taken to court. I think thumped got a warning too.

There was possibly folks who worked the fest posting in the threads.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Mooncat on January 09, 2025, 10:09:46 PM
Hmm interesting. I don't remember hearing anything specific, though I was never on Boards.ie. I was actually at the 2006 one, it was peak radio indie hell, but had James Brown playing one of his last shows before he died, and also had the World Cup playing on a huge screen in the campsite (saw a 20ft Zidane deliver that headbutt, glorious). Don't remember anything specifically shit other than it being a bit scummy in general. I heard that it got progressively more stabby and violent in subsequent years though. +
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: mickO))) on January 09, 2025, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 09, 2025, 08:17:49 PMMCD took umbrage and got the libel lawyers in and you weren't allowed to mention them without the threat of getting taken to court. I think thumped got a warning too.


MCD have always been such pleasant people. I was at Oxygen 06 as well and also went to see James Brown it was literally the only thing that weekend I had any interest in seeing. don't remember anything happening at it so must have been 2005.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Mooncat on January 09, 2025, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on January 09, 2025, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 09, 2025, 08:17:49 PMMCD took umbrage and got the libel lawyers in and you weren't allowed to mention them without the threat of getting taken to court. I think thumped got a warning too.


MCD have always been such pleasant people. I was at Oxygen 06 as well and also went to see James Brown it was literally the only thing that weekend I had any interest in seeing. don't remember anything happening at it so must have been 2005.

Just found an old Irish News article there and apparently it was indeed 06! I do seem to remember a rumour about someone's tent being set on fire with them in it, but overall it seemed like any normal festival. So either everything happened in a different area, or I was somehow oblivious to it...


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/how-we-feared-for-our-lives-at-oxegen-festival-goers-relive-their-nightmare/26375899.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/how-we-feared-for-our-lives-at-oxegen-festival-goers-relive-their-nightmare/26375899.html)
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: mickO))) on January 09, 2025, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: Mooncat on January 09, 2025, 10:24:00 PMJust found an old Irish News article there and apparently it was indeed 06! I do seem to remember a rumour about someone's tent being set on fire with them in it, but overall it seemed like any normal festival. So either everything happened in a different area, or I was somehow oblivious to it...


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/how-we-feared-for-our-lives-at-oxegen-festival-goers-relive-their-nightmare/26375899.html (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/how-we-feared-for-our-lives-at-oxegen-festival-goers-relive-their-nightmare/26375899.html)

I don't remember that at all. That year I was at Download, Wacken and Oxygen. I do remember the riots at Download that year very clearly unless the Oxygen stuff was confined to a small area like you suggested.

Thinking back to Oxygen now my mate got sick all over the inside of our tent about 2 hours after we put it up on the Saturday morning so maybe we left early on Sunday but I also distinctly remember walking past that huge TV seeing France on the screen that would have been the Sunday evening.

I can also remember the two of us heading down on an empty CIE Bus early on the Saturday cause we were arguing then him getting sick was the icing on the cake. I also had a load of pills on me and my face dropped when I got to entrance as they were searching people so he took them, put them in his jocks and brought them in for me. No way I would remember all of that and forget tents being set on fire.

One other thing I remember is being at a festival somewhere and people were going around slashing tents and stealing from them which may have been 06 but I was also there the year Rage Against The Machine played which was 08 and that could have happened then.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 09, 2025, 11:34:30 PM
There was definitely a phase of inner city scumbag teens squading up and sneaking in on the last night to act the cunt at Oxygen/Electric Picnic.

 


Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Shardknife on January 10, 2025, 09:58:09 AM
I don't see a problem with posts for tribute nights for rock and metal acts. The gig listings section isn't super active and it's a handy way for people to promote their shows.
The tribute thing seems to be getting a bit bigger in the last few years I feel, seems like more shows of that nature are being booked in Limerick anyway. As lots of big headlining bands are retiring and also with tickets and getting to Dublin for shows getting too expensive it's a way for people to experience the music live with less hassle. There is definitely a huge group of people who'd go to a tribute act but would never go to a normal metal gig in the same local venues.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: jobrok1 on January 10, 2025, 06:32:48 PM
Of course tribute bands should post on here.   :abbath:  :abbath:  :abbath:
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Paul keohane on January 10, 2025, 07:36:18 PM
The last gig I was at was a cover band,Damn Deal Done Entombed cover band,it was great craic!

Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 10, 2025, 08:04:07 PM
Yeah, couldn't give a fuck tbh, list away. If I've no interest I don't open the thread, but it's not like they're the only gigs being posted.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Thorn on January 10, 2025, 08:46:14 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 10, 2025, 07:36:18 PMThe last gig I was at was a cover band,Damn Deal Done Entombed cover band,it was great craic!


Where are they from, I'd go see them for sure
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: astfgyl on January 11, 2025, 12:32:17 AM
Yes, they should.
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: astfgyl on January 11, 2025, 12:33:18 AM
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 10, 2025, 07:36:18 PMThe last gig I was at was a cover band,Damn Deal Done Entombed cover band,it was great craic!



If it was in the gig thread, I might have at least heard of my not turning up to it :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Should cover bands feature in gigs listings?
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 11, 2025, 06:11:07 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2jasUTz5JU8&pp=ygUhVGhlIHllYXIgZ3J1bmdlIGJyb2tlIHRlZW4gc3Bpcml0