Not much details on it yet, just this update on Jeff Loomis' Instagram, Van Williams back on drums:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEGJpdLMWvG/
Going to be impossible to replace Warrel Dane, but I'd be delighted to hear new music from Loomis (if thats the plan) and not just a solo or two that he was stuck doing in Arch Enemy
Wonder what sorta job Matt Barlow could do for Nevermore? Didnt he do band with Van Williams? Maybe an option?
Dicey one going by the 'Nevermore' bandname. Obviously ya can see why Loomis etc would want to do that from an emotional and a practical standpoint, but jesus.
I'd imagiine for huge chunk of their listeners Dane's vocals = Nevermore and without that...well.
Personally now, I'd rather it wasn't another 'name' vocalist Matt Barlow as @Despondent_Soul2 mentioned. That'd be a bit 'NeverEarth'/
'IcedMore'. The latter sounds delicious all the same.
No, I'd prefer they got someone ya wouldn't except like Steve Perry :laugh: Nah. You know what I mean though.
Most important thing is that it isn't shitty auld boy 'I used to be in Nevermore ya know' bum bum metal. Hope they're doing it cos they've got something they need to say musically, not 'yeah Wacken mainstage is a bit of raic and a nice few bob as well'.
Wouldn't be holding my breath for something amazing, but it'd be great to be surprised.
I'm firmly in the "no Dane, no Nevermore" camp.
I love Loomis' solo stuff and Conquering Dystopia, but appreciate they don't have the same sort of visibility as Nevermore.
I'm sure they can find someone to do a decent cover job on vocals, but Dane was such a brilliant lyricist to go with them
Suppose it's a case of waiting to see what they're actually doing, is it a new album or just touring like Pantera
Given me an excuse to have another run through their discography anyway
I hope it isn't Matt Barlow, he's always sounded like he's a power metal vocalist from South Park. "Oh how I loved you, the pain won't go awwwaaaayyy".
Actually can really imagine Matt Barlow staccatto his way through WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THEY BUILT A LAD-DER TO HEAV-EN.
You know the way he bollocks on. "Lies, fool-ish lies. Be-hind your brain-washed eyes." Brainwashed eyes. Mother of jaysis.
Actually though...what about Tim RIPPER Owens for the Nevermore gig? :laugh:
Did I see Sanctuary have gigged with a new lad recently? I possibly imagined it, lots of old bands with new singers about at the moment.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 28, 2024, 01:58:20 PMDid I see Sanctuary have gigged with a new lad recently? I possibly imagined it, lots of old bands with new singers about at the moment.
Ah here. Ya have to messin'...
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 28, 2024, 01:58:20 PMDid I see Sanctuary have gigged with a new lad recently? I possibly imagined it, lots of old bands with new singers about at the moment.
I think the singer's been in the band for 5-6 years now, I know there's been a couple of tours, but no word of an album.
Give it Ripper Owens :)
Yeah, Sanctuary have been back at it for ages. I wouldn't trust Loomis these days. Worst case scenario it's a hologram of Warrel churning out an AI reproduction of his vocal style.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 28, 2024, 05:12:37 PMI wouldn't trust Loomis these days.
In what way? That he'll be treating it as a pure cash grab, or not able to put out anything decent?
No one can fill the great man's boots vocally and lyrically...I'm apprehensive but I'll be open to seeing how this goes.
Loomis missed out on calling it 'Sentient 6' which would have been more acceptable.
I'm in the category of no Dane, no nevermore....same as Sepultura hasn't been the real one since the mid 90s ;D ;)
I don't blame Loomis for taking a "steady" regular income after Nevermore but hopefully he is ready now and can muster up some cool riffs.
I must revisit Nevermore and see if they click with me. I tried them before and didn't get the fuss. Where's good to start?
Dead Heart In A Dead World was my introduction to them and is still the one I go back to most.
I'll give it a spin this evening so cheers.
Try "The Politics of Ecstasy" (even if it has one of the worst album sleeves going) as well. The production is a lot less clinical than Dead Heart.
Dreaming Neon Black and Enemies of Reality would be my favourites, but I love all their stuff. I'd say if you give the In Memory EP a listen and enjoy it, then try DNB and move in from there
Wow.... thought we would get a new Pantera album before a new Nevermore album!
Quote from: Trev on December 28, 2024, 07:17:07 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 28, 2024, 05:12:37 PMI wouldn't trust Loomis these days.
In what way? That he'll be treating it as a pure cash grab, or not able to put out anything decent?
Just in the way that his name is no longer imo a reliable guarantee of quality. Doesn't mean I don't think he has it in him to make more great music, but I also won't at all be surprised if it's in some way an abomination.
Will be interesting to here what comes out of this, but I won't be getting my hopes up.
Quote from: Ducky on December 28, 2024, 09:22:17 PMTry "The Politics of Ecstasy" (even if it has one of the worst album sleeves going) as well. The production is a lot less clinical than Dead Heart.
If there ever was a cover that reeked of "some clown can do art with a computer no as it's the 90s".
Think I burst out laughing in Zhivago in Galway when I found it in the racks.
I gave a listen to a couple of songs. Yeah. I can't argue with any of it but it just doesn't resonate with me for some reason.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on December 28, 2024, 09:05:28 PMI must revisit Nevermore and see if they click with me. I tried them before and didn't get the fuss. Where's good to start?
My feelings exactly. Ive listened a few times but it never clicked. Totally appreciate the guitar wizardy though. What Ive heard reminds me a LOT of Control Denied (which I loved at the time but havent heard for years). Aymar was a great singer.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on December 30, 2024, 02:55:14 AMQuote from: Ducky on December 28, 2024, 09:22:17 PMTry "The Politics of Ecstasy" (even if it has one of the worst album sleeves going) as well. The production is a lot less clinical than Dead Heart.
If there ever was a cover that reeked of "some clown can do art with a computer no as it's the 90s".
Think I burst out laughing in Zhivago in Galway when I found it in the racks.
Imagine the merch sales on that tour :laugh:
Quote from: Floss on December 30, 2024, 10:44:13 AMQuote from: Eoin McLove on December 28, 2024, 09:05:28 PMI must revisit Nevermore and see if they click with me. I tried them before and didn't get the fuss. Where's good to start?
My feelings exactly. Ive listened a few times but it never clicked. Totally appreciate the guitar wizardy though. What Ive heard reminds me a LOT of Control Denied (which I loved at the time but havent heard for years). Aymar was a great singer.
Despite being a Death/Chuck (and TSoP) fanboy, I treat Control Denied as if they never existed. Chuck didn't know how to write clean vocal hooks, and his lyrics had fallen off a cliff by that stage.
I think Warren Dane's vocal ability is just as impressive and important to Nevermore as Loomis' shredding. He also wrote some great lyrics too.
Dane was one of a kind, up there with the Midnights and Messiahs of metal. Aymar is not of that class.
Indeed. The only place he is equal with any of them is in the grave.
Quote from: Ducky on December 30, 2024, 12:03:31 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on December 30, 2024, 02:55:14 AMQuote from: Ducky on December 28, 2024, 09:22:17 PMTry "The Politics of Ecstasy" (even if it has one of the worst album sleeves going) as well. The production is a lot less clinical than Dead Heart.
If there ever was a cover that reeked of "some clown can do art with a computer no as it's the 90s".
Think I burst out laughing in Zhivago in Galway when I found it in the racks.
Imagine the merch sales on that tour :laugh:
Post tour stock check: Full container of S/M/L left. Xxxl's sold out
I'd be very interested in seeing how this pans out. Absolutely love Nevermore, especially Loomis playing and Dane's vocals. I hated the vocals at first but they really grew on me and it's hard to see how someone else can do what he did, more so in writing new material.
As a band they were very dysfunctional though. Have heard podcasts where bands on tour with them said they basically fought constantly. They pulled out of lots of shows and tours over issues with members in the band. Warrel Dane obviously had his issues but in a statement the band just put out it looks like the bass player was also problematic and is not part of the reunion.
Interestingly they are putting out open auditions for a new vocalist and bassist. I'd imagine it will be quite a while before there's a new album or anything if they don't have a line-up yet.
Honestly don't even know what Shepard contributed to the band in the first place. He's one of those bassists that's mostly buried in the mix to begin with.
Unless he was a muse for the two lads, the band will still sound the same without him.
As an aside, Van Williams is integral to their sound too. Genuinely one of the most underrated drummers in metal.
Quote from: Ducky on December 28, 2024, 01:43:05 PMI hope it isn't Matt Barlow, he's always sounded like he's a power metal vocalist from South Park. "Oh how I loved you, the pain won't go awwwaaaayyy".
Quote from: Crow on December 28, 2024, 01:57:42 PMActually can really imagine Matt Barlow staccatto his way through WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THEY BUILT A LAD-DER TO HEAV-EN.
You know the way he bollocks on. "Lies, fool-ish lies. Be-hind your brain-washed eyes." Brainwashed eyes. Mother of jaysis.
This 100% - Always thought Lou Barlow sounded like Trey Parker taking the piss.
Sure wasn't most of Iced Earth's later lyrical content basically "America Fuck Yeah" in variations.
Oh, c'mon lads. These should've popped up on page 1 of the thread:
EVERMORE
FURTHERMORE
EVENMORE
I'll show myself out now.
Loomis stuff with Graham Bonnet is very interesting, the lad has some range!!!
I always thought the dude out of Communic sounded a bit like Dane
Nervermore's new singer is... Fergie?
https://arrowlordsofmetal.nl/nevermore-fergie-new-vocalist/
That's an unexpected one for sure.
Look at the date of the article ;)
Yeah, I just spotted that this minute. D'oh! 😂
Ah jesus..that was a scare and a half :o
i'm pretty excited about this, I seen some of the "auditions" on youtube and some were excellent. Be interesting to see what happens next. I expect a song to appear out of nowhere to be either shite or a banger.
Apparently Brandon Ellis from The Black Dahlia Murder might be in the lineup too.
New chaps announced
Jack Cattoi - Guitar
Semir Özerkan - Bass
Berzan Önen - Vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhW3rdcyip4
Jaysus yer man sounds great.
Yeah, sounds just fine to these ears.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on February 12, 2026, 04:32:38 PMNew chaps announced
Jack Cattoi - Guitar
Semir Özerkan - Bass
Berzan Önen - Vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhW3rdcyip4
Almost didn't click, thought it was going to be just a crappy promo vid, not a 40 minute jam!
Watched a chunk of it yesterday, your man has pulled it off!.Fingers crossed we get a date here at some point!
He sounds the part alright, I see they're booked for the summer fests, hopefully might add a few of their own shows around them too
Sounding good, enjoyable watch great vocals TBF.