I picked up the vinyl reissue of Pentagram and it is a beast. The one dimensional vocals were a bit of a hurdle for me in the past but I think they are perfect for it. They are so extreme and over the top on their violent focus and reflect the nature of the music. The production through a proper stereo is quite massive with heaps of low end- interesting to see Samoth making an appearance here on bass. Apart from Emperor he popped up on a few other classics back in the day.
I think I'm going to nab the Antichrist picture disc next and give it a go, although I believe it's a bit different to Pentagram. Maybe less direct and violent? Also, am I right in thinking there are two vocalists on it?
My introduction to Gorgoroth was Twilight of the Idols whenever it came out. It was among the first vinyls I bought actually, and there was a buzz around them which coincided with my own deepening interest in BM, but it never quite caught my attention and I let the band slip past me from there. It at least deserves a revisit I think.
I saw them at Wacken in 08 and I have to admit, they were quite intense live. Gaahl is a hell of a frontman.
I'm going to work my way through their stuff and see what else grabs me so any recommendations are welcome.
Ad Majorem Sathanas Gloriam (I hoped I've spelled that correctly) was the one that really grabbed me. Nicely vicious, I love the heavy production and Gaahl's fairly no nonsense approach to the vocals.
I've only dipped in and out of their other material but have liked everything I've heard.
I'll give it a go. Cheers. Antichrist on YouTube here now. It'll be purchased before I hit the leaba tonight. Savage! It seems apparent to me that Gjendød took a bit of influence from this.
The main difference between Antichrist and Pentagram is the production. Pentagram is much rawer and some songs on Antichrist can drag on. Under the sign of Hell is also great. Yes Hat only sang on the debut then Pest sang on Antichrist and Under the Sign.
I have no idea why they picked the current vocalist after Pest was fired since he doesn't play live with them, was basically unknown to everyone and nothing about his vocals on the album he sang on stands out. He did artwork for one of those Irish bands that released stuff through Darragh can't remember which band though.
I remember almost being sick of Gorgoroth because they played here so much and similar to Mgla they never change the setlist but now thanks to incident that was discussed on here earlier in the year at the last Dublin show they won't ever play here again which is a shame. I think that gig was 10 years ago.
If you want to get rid of that Twilight vinyl I would happily take it off your hands. I really enjoy that album and after the whole court case over the rights I don't see any Gaahl era material getting reissued. I had to buy a Korean bootleg of AMSG.
I read that Hat recorded vocals for half of Antichrist before leaving and Pest did the other half. Just finished listening to it now and I don't think it drags on at all. I think it contrasts with Pentagram quite a bit; it's much less feral, more brooding and perhaps sorrowful sounding. It is really fucking good!
I'll hang on to Twilight for now and see if it's more to my taste these days.
What happened at the last Dublin gig? If I read about it before, I've forgotten now.
Saw them on the AMDS tour, first proper black metal gig I was ever at. Mighty stuff, my love for them is mainly focused on the Gaahl era albums, though I do quite like Pentagram. That gig Hoest and the fool in the crowd was a weird one.
There was some feen giving Hoest shit all night and eventually got a clatter with the bottle of wine Hoest was holding if memory serves. Something to do with antifa I think.
Under a Sign of Hell (currently listening to it) and Destroyer are the only ones I have.
Under a Sign is a decent album - particularly liked the start of The Rites of Infernal Invocation - instant headbanging and the final song is also great. Need to get round to picking the rest of their stuff up as I've always liked what I heard.
I was just looking at MA and it says Hat and Pest sang on Antichrist. I always thought it was just Pest. Anyway you will see yourself when you get the albums little to no info or lyrics has ever been included with anything.
Some fella from down the country was up the front the last time Gorgoroth played antagonising Hoest for the entire show. Hoest was drinking from a wine bottle and when it was finished he smashed it over your man's head. I don't think anything ever came of it but I can't see H having them over again after something like that. Hellfire from here said he knew the lad personally but he doesn't seem to post on here anymore.
This for me is the bands best song but unfortunately they have never been able to recreate the proper drum sound for it live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF63k4axFXM
Quote from: mickO))) on October 02, 2024, 01:08:43 PMI was just looking at MA and it says Hat and Pest sang on Antichrist. I always thought it was just Pest. Anyway you will see yourself when you get the albums little to no info or lyrics has ever been included with anything.
Some fella from down the country was up the front the last time Gorgoroth played antagonising Hoest for the entire show. Hoest was drinking from a wine bottle and when it was finished he smashed it over your man's head. I don't think anything ever came of it but I can't see H having them over again after something like that. Hellfire from here said he knew the lad personally but he doesn't seem to post on here anymore.
This for me is the bands best song but unfortunately they have never been able to recreate the proper drum sound for it live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF63k4axFXM
That's a cracker of a tune to be fair.
It's weird MA has no record of Nick Barker doing the AMDS tour. I'm almost certain he was on drums for them.
I remember that incident being talked about now, yeah. Hoest was on vocals for Gorgoroth or Taake were playing that gig too?
Quote from: Eoin McLove on October 02, 2024, 01:43:49 PMI remember that incident being talked about now, yeah. Hoest was on vocals for Gorgoroth or Taake were playing that gig too?
Gorgoroth. Vital Remains supported, twas in the Voodoo
Quote from: Eoin McLove on October 02, 2024, 01:43:49 PMI remember that incident being talked about now, yeah. Hoest was on vocals for Gorgoroth or Taake were playing that gig too?
Hoest has been the live vocalist ever since the Serbian guy joined which makes the addition of the Serbian even stranger since they should have just had Hoest join as the main vocalist.
Taake only played here the once from what I remember they did Fibbers and An Cruiscin Lan in 08 or 09 I think it was.
Quote from: Skott Furys jizz rag on October 02, 2024, 01:40:59 PMThat's a cracker of a tune to be fair.
It's weird MA has no record of Nick Barker doing the AMDS tour. I'm almost certain he was on drums for them.
Barker was definitely here for most of if not all of the Gaahl shows. I can't remember if he was here for the show with 1349 in the Voodoo back in 05. I remember being so excited for that gig was very young and I couldn't believe Gorgoroth were playing in Dublin. Even 1349 were great that night.
1349 is another band that hasn't played here in a very long time.
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Quote from: mickO))) on October 02, 2024, 02:02:59 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on October 02, 2024, 01:43:49 PMI remember that incident being talked about now, yeah. Hoest was on vocals for Gorgoroth or Taake were playing that gig too?
Hoest has been the live vocalist ever since the Serbian guy joined which makes the addition of the Serbian even stranger since they should have just had Hoest join as the main vocalist.
Taake only played here the once from what I remember they did Fibbers and An Cruiscin Lan in 08 or 09 I think it was.
Quote from: Skott Furys jizz rag on October 02, 2024, 01:40:59 PMThat's a cracker of a tune to be fair.
It's weird MA has no record of Nick Barker doing the AMDS tour. I'm almost certain he was on drums for them.
Barker was definitely here for most of if not all of the Gaahl shows. I can't remember if he was here for the show with 1349 in the Voodoo back in 05. I remember being so excited for that gig was very young and I couldn't believe Gorgoroth were playing in Dublin. Even 1349 were great that night.
1349 is another band that hasn't played here in a very long time.
Taake in the Cruiscin was mighty, that was a great spot for gigs.
That gig in 05 with 1349 was incredible. First truly menacing gig I saw. Can't really think of others. Atilla was there and got up for Buried by Time and Dust with 1349.
Quote from: open face surgery on October 02, 2024, 02:45:49 PMThat gig in 05 with 1349 was incredible. First truly menacing gig I saw. Can't really think of others. Atilla was there and got up for Buried by Time and Dust with 1349.
Gorgoroth were class that night. I remember Gaahl being truly intense that night.
Pentagram, Antichrist and Under The Sign are all great albums in their own right.
I haven't listened to Twilight of the Idols or Ad Majorem in years, I must give them a listen.
https://youtu.be/wpuinQNCOV4?feature=shared
Gorgoroth at their best.
When did Taake play Cork?
I remember the Gorgoroth gig more for the fact I couldn't get the night off work.
Always prefered Gaahl as the vocalist. they seemed so evil with him as the frontman. That gig on youtube with all the animal heads on spikes and naked people crucified is metal as fuck. Great songs! SATAN :abbath:
I know fuck all about Gorgoroth but this song is amazing:
Shame the rest of the album sounds nothing like that.
Quote from: Necro Red on October 02, 2024, 08:55:00 PMAlways prefered Gaahl as the vocalist. they seemed so evil with him as the frontman. That gig on youtube with all the animal heads on spikes and naked people crucified is metal as fuck. Great songs! SATAN
The novelty of seeing Gaahl live wore off very quickly Hoest was much better. Pest was shite when he came here with them. I ended up on the piss with Gaahl's boyfriend after Messe des Morts in 2017. Tuomas from Horna got him to come out with us and he was trying to go into his hotel room to get Gaahl out as well but was told he's asleep and not to disturb him :laugh:
Quote from: Circlepit on October 02, 2024, 04:53:07 PMWhen did Taake play Cork?
I remember the Gorgoroth gig more for the fact I couldn't get the night off work.
Around 08/09,I wasn't very familiar with them,but I do remember the singer trying to shift some fella up the front,it was all very weird!
Am I right in saying Gorgoroth played Cork twice?,I do remember one of the gigs being wedged!.A band called Tyrant supported im sure,they were incredible!,a nice surprise from what I can remember.
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 03, 2024, 08:58:51 AMAm I right in saying Gorgoroth played Cork twice?,I do remember one of the gigs being wedged!.A band called Tyrant supported im sure,they were incredible!,a nice surprise from what I can remember.
Yes Tyrant and Enthroned were the support that night. Zebadiah Crow supported them the other time, cool kind of Akercocke vibes. Enthroned were lethal, Tyrant were great fun, "black metal! Turn your cross upside down!" Gas stuff
Twilight of the Idols is the only Gorgoroth album I know but I enjoyed it years back when we had a copy knocking about. Haven't put it on in years, must see if it holds up.
Listened to one of the Gaahl albums when it came out and thought it was lethal but it absolutely fell by the wayside about a week later. No particular reason, just must have had a lot of new music on the go at the time.
Pentagram and Antichrist seem to be a cut above, or at least more in line with what I'm after. I threw on a song from Twilight last night and turned it off. Same with Under the Sign of Hell, but I'll give the full album a go tonight if the drum sound doesn't melt me like it did last night.
I like Twilight now I have to say. Cool vocals and vibe to it
I'll fire the LP on over the weekend. Just put in an order for the Antichrist LP and t-shirt from Soulseller 8)
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 03, 2024, 08:49:28 AMAround 08/09,I wasn't very familiar with them,but I do remember the singer trying to shift some fella up the front,it was all very weird!
The Taake show was March of 09. I think it was still your man Doctor Rock putting on the gigs then. Are you sure that happened at this show I don't remember that. He did something like that with the attention seeker from the Shining on stage once somewhere in Europe that he got backlash over but I don't remember anything like that at the Cork show.
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 03, 2024, 08:58:51 AMAm I right in saying Gorgoroth played Cork twice?,I do remember one of the gigs being wedged!.A band called Tyrant supported im sure,they were incredible!,a nice surprise from what I can remember.
Yes I would have to check through old tickets but I remember them playing in 07 and 08 and then when they came here with Pest a few years later they just did Temple Bar and the bigger Limelight venue in Belfast. The gig with Hoest on vocals for Gorgoroth was Dublin only.
I really like the production on Twilight it has that icy cold feeling to it. I think it's a much better album than AMSG.
Quote from: mickO))) on October 03, 2024, 11:55:40 AMQuote from: Paul keohane on October 03, 2024, 08:49:28 AMAround 08/09,I wasn't very familiar with them,but I do remember the singer trying to shift some fella up the front,it was all very weird!
The Taake show was March of 09. I think it was still your man Doctor Rock putting on the gigs then. Are you sure that happened at this show I don't remember that. He did something like that with the attention seeker from the Shining on stage once somewhere in Europe that he got backlash over but I don't remember anything like that at the Cork show.
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 03, 2024, 08:58:51 AMAm I right in saying Gorgoroth played Cork twice?,I do remember one of the gigs being wedged!.A band called Tyrant supported im sure,they were incredible!,a nice surprise from what I can remember.
Yes I would have to check through old tickets but I remember them playing in 07 and 08 and then when they came here with Pest a few years later they just did Temple Bar and the bigger Limelight venue in Belfast. The gig with Hoest on vocals for Gorgoroth was Dublin only.
I really like the production on Twilight it has that icy cold feeling to it. I think it's a much better album than AMSG.
Your right,it was the front man of Shining im thinking of!,(a lot of those Cruiscin gigs roll into one now lol).He definitely tried kissing a lad up the front,was fuckin strange!.
Dr Rock,a fella that was run out of the metal scene in Cork! :laugh:
Funny this thread should pop up. Out of all the main Norwegian bands from the 90s Gorgoroth is the one I've given least attention to. Maybe I felt they were missing some of the grandiose atmosphere of their contemporaries. However in recent times I've been listening more and more and their first two Antichrist and Pentagram have clicked. I had Destroyer on in the car only yesterday but not a patch on the two aforementioned. Never gave the Gaahl stuff a go. Maybe time to change that.
There's some merit across the whole discography - I was big into AMSG when it came out, Wound Upon Wound is a serious opener - but Pentagram is the only one I've always come back to over time.
I think their lack of focus on "atmosphere" relative to their peers at the time, prob made them less vital, but Pentagram just goes for it at a gallop for the duration. One of my favourites for sure.
What I like about Pentagram is way it's 1,2,3 attack for the whole lot of it.
The Gaahl stuff is like a more grown up approach but still has an element of madness from himself on vocals.
On a side note I still don't know if we are being trolled with the new Trelldom album.
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 03, 2024, 12:38:05 PMDr Rock,a fella that was run out of the metal scene in Cork! :laugh:
Aye a thieving cunt and a nonce.
What did he do? I remember H posting on the old forum that he ripped him off on a few gigs but was he up to other stuff as well?
Quote from: mickO))) on October 04, 2024, 02:18:51 PMWhat did he do? I remember H posting on the old forum that he ripped him off on a few gigs but was he up to other stuff as well?
There was all sorts of rumours at the time ,that he was letting girls under 18 into gigs,buying them drink etc in exchange for ...!.
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 04, 2024, 02:37:03 PMQuote from: mickO))) on October 04, 2024, 02:18:51 PMWhat did he do? I remember H posting on the old forum that he ripped him off on a few gigs but was he up to other stuff as well?
There was all sorts of rumours at the time ,that he was letting girls under 18 into gigs,buying them drink etc in exchange for ...!.
Ah right I didn't know that. Only seen him a handful of times checking tickets at shows.
Quote from: mickO))) on October 04, 2024, 02:38:40 PMQuote from: Paul keohane on October 04, 2024, 02:37:03 PMQuote from: mickO))) on October 04, 2024, 02:18:51 PMWhat did he do? I remember H posting on the old forum that he ripped him off on a few gigs but was he up to other stuff as well?
There was all sorts of rumours at the time ,that he was letting girls under 18 into gigs,buying them drink etc in exchange for ...!.
Ah right I didn't know that. Only seen him a handful of times checking tickets at shows.
How much of it is true I don't know,but it all ties in with him disappearing out of Cork.
Twilight of the Idols on here now. It's not really doing it for me.
People could reasonably cite St. Anger as having the worst snare sound in metal, but Under the Sign of Hell makes St. Anger's sound like it was engineered by Alan Parsons.
Could quite easily pass for two pool balls clattering.
Yeah, it's awful. I might listen to the rerecording now to see what the craic is.
Edit: just as bad, if not worse.
Turned off Twilight... boring shite.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on October 04, 2024, 11:44:05 PMTurned off Twilight... boring shite.
I still haven't put it back on since remembering it the other day but this isn't making me rush to it either :laugh:
Quote from: ochoill on October 05, 2024, 02:03:49 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on October 04, 2024, 11:44:05 PMTurned off Twilight... boring shite.
I still haven't put it back on since remembering it the other day but this isn't making me rush to it either :laugh:
Was that the one I had the cd of back in the day?
Quote from: astfgyl on October 05, 2024, 02:31:30 PMQuote from: ochoill on October 05, 2024, 02:03:49 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on October 04, 2024, 11:44:05 PMTurned off Twilight... boring shite.
I still haven't put it back on since remembering it the other day but this isn't making me rush to it either :laugh:
Was that the one I had the cd of back in the day?
The very same yeah. I feel like we had a tape off Gooey with another album on it but I can't remember which it was.
Pentagram is their only album that I would consider 10/10 and really the only album I like of theirs in full. It gets played regularly at the gym.
Wound upon wound, destroyer and procreating Satan would be the only Gaahl songs I enjoy but he's brilliant live.
Quote from: jpm4 on October 02, 2024, 09:13:38 PMI know fuck all about Gorgoroth but this song is amazing:
Shame the rest of the album sounds nothing like that.
Yeah that track is deadly.
Missed this thread until now, great band!! I've always liked Gorgoroth but only keep going back to Pentagram and Antichrist. There's some sort of edge to them that lack on all other albums.
We opened their gig in Curitiba/Brazil in 2004, before Gaahl became more popular than the band itself. At the time I thought they were weird alright, but thinking back they were probably just being too Norwegian and keeping it to themselves.
The drum sound on Under the Sign of Hell is awesome. No other album sounds like that.
I listen to the first three regularly still, some of my favourite songs on them, and I have a soft spot for Incipit Satan, which I think is under-rated. Not gone on Destroyer, nor most of the later stuff, bit boring.
Expended quite a bit of effort trying to sort a one-off gig in the Forum or Nancy's between 2002 and 2005,as I'd kept in contact with the guitarist after doing an interview for that fuckin zine I spent six years on and never actually put out...
That Dublin gig in 2005 is one of my favourites ever. Class set and a great session afterwards. Nick Barker didn't play on that tour, and I don't think it was your man from Wardruna either. He might have had something to do with Taake back then.
Belfast's tiny entry into the Gorgoroth history (and prob another reason why they won't come back)
https://blabbermouth.net/news/belfast-churchgoers-challenge-gorgoroth-s-anti-god-message-video-available (https://blabbermouth.net/news/belfast-churchgoers-challenge-gorgoroth-s-anti-god-message-video-available)
I went into Belfast to go to the gig and ended up getting sidetracked by some mates and just hitting bars instead, as you do when you're young. regretted it after of course.
Quote from: Mooncat on November 07, 2024, 01:51:58 AM(and prob another reason why they won't come back)
They played Belfast again after that show in the Limelight with Pest a few years later. Things like that would encourage bands like this to come back not stop them as it would be great publicity.