Great setlist has to be said, can teach Anthrax a thing or two
https://youtu.be/WJlPDGfczlA?t=55
South of Heaven
Reborn
(First time live since 2014)
Blood Red
Postmortem
Repentless
Payback
Temptation
Jihad
Seasons in the Abyss
Born of Fire
War Ensemble
Hate Worldwide
Disciple
Dead Skin Mask
Hell Awaits
213
(First time live since 1998)
Mandatory Suicide
Raining Blood
Black Magic
Angel of Death
Not playing Postmortem into RIB is a sin. Fun looking set.
Think Jihad has to be one of their worst songs but otherwise that's one hell of a decent set.
Jihad is a banger on the album but they never seem to be able to replicate it live
I've always found Christ Illusion to be their most meh album. Terrible production too.
Oh I hate Christ Illusion, it's awful - But Jihad, clearly Hanneman penned is a stand out track.
What sort of fee does anyone reckon they were offered for these shows?
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on September 23, 2024, 06:33:46 PMWhat sort of fee does anyone reckon they were offered for these shows?
Somewhere near six figures allegedly.
Absence makes the guarantee go up.
And their management would probably put out "Fuck off money" fees and see who'd take the bait.
Probably closer to 7 figures, no problem.
Or 6 figures and a guarantee to erase all traces of the last 25 years of their recorded output.
Thought maybe around the 500k mark myself. But yeah possibly higher
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on September 23, 2024, 07:48:25 PMThought maybe around the 500k mark myself. But yeah possibly higher
There's arguably bigger draws on the card but Misfits got 750k the year they headlined so ya never know.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on September 23, 2024, 06:50:09 PMQuote from: Pagan Saviour on September 23, 2024, 06:33:46 PMWhat sort of fee does anyone reckon they were offered for these shows?
Somewhere near six figures allegedly.
Absence makes the guarantee go up.
And their management would probably put out "Fuck off money" fees and see who'd take the bait.
Near 6 figures? Surely they were already getting that pre reunion.
Great setlist. Tom seems to be enjoying himself. I can't imagine with the money being thrown at them that they'll not do more festivals dates in the future.
How anyone is remotely interested in this is beyond me. Whatever.
You say that now, but in 2038 you'll be on the 'Twenty Years of Across Deaths' stadium tour playing all the hits and screaming 'WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK!'
Quote from: Eoin McLove on September 23, 2024, 11:45:27 PMHow anyone is remotely interested in this is beyond me. Whatever.
Their accountants and management are for starters😂
I made the mistake of following Sandra Araya on insta, she's a fucking melt, so much so that it's extended to my view of Tom. 2 gimps.
Sandra is a fruit loop. Definitely and has changed the way I'd view Tom for sure. Lisa Holt isn't too far behind, one or two hilarious comments online after the reformation announced
https://youtu.be/YYxJUGjmuxE?si=hyMH34zFOcHoRT0T
Remember when the shows were first announced and King claimed that the announcement was the first he knew of it?! The way he talks about it here it reads like the offer came to him first through his management. What a prize spastic!
https://blabbermouth.net/news/watch-slayer-returns-to-live-stage-for-first-time-in-five-years
Having said that, I would absolutely go see them again if I had the opportunity. They sound in great form in those videos and great to see songs like 213 make an appearance in the set.
They are no better than Motley Crue at this stage...so much for farewell tours...
Did Kerry get a roadie to leave his chains on the stage before the show so he could pick them back up?
If that didn't happen how can we even believe that it was Slayer!?! If chains fall on an empty stage do they make a sound?
No chain, no... ehhh... Slain?
Wrong thread
No chance of Dave Lombardo getting back behind the drums nowadays? (if they are going to make this a 'thing' again?) Were the bridges that badly burned?.
I'd say you'd see Hannemann back before you see Lombardo
Quote from: leatherface on September 25, 2024, 09:28:59 PMNo chance of Dave Lombardo getting back behind the drums nowadays? (if they are going to make this a 'thing' again?) Were the bridges that badly burned?.
Didn't Kerry say that "Lombardo's dead to me" or something? Hard to see that being resolved.
Plus the split was over financial issues, and I imagine Lombardo would want that to be addressed.
I'll have to go back and read over the whole Lombardo/financial stuff again.Did he get paid something like $60k for a tour,when the tour brought in $20m! something like that?.
Lombardo is a whinge bag. I've posted this many many times, I think he got what he deserved. DX ferris covers it in great detail in his podcast and his book
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Slayer-66-Biography-Including-Palladium/dp/0615920306/ref=sr_1_2?crid=44L2WSIFL7BR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0aN_OTgzs2KXFVJdlimKYxeig_7O8GR_p1CyzxBs5ngU1dPBiyTv9pv3IeIKMKyWPejcRBdrH24NCPODvt67xLLwgTnWompx56cV-i9NIWiVB92XfadAZjAa-qBtjOBB.3Hvfmx76CQp5r390s56P-QCcc9otJ5plR8XhdZkBTFE&dib_tag=se&keywords=dx+ferris&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1727352169&sprefix=dx+ferris%2Caps%2C102&sr=8-2
The most important thing is Dave was out of the band from 1991 -2002. The band were hardly going to bring him back in after a decade in the wilderness as a partner. Nevertheless he was paid very well for a "hired goon". He floated the 67000$ thing and I see it out there over and over again. For those that can't be arsed reading the book here's the highlights
But a quick glance at D.X. Ferris' excellent new book, Slayer 66 2/3: The Jeff & Dave Years, suggested that Lombardo's figure might very well be way off-base. Ferris, a former Ohio Society of Professional Journalists Reporter of the Year, was the first writer to uncover the public records from Dave Lombardo's divorce. The papers reveal that while Lombardo was not an equal partner in Slayer (which is to say that, yes, he was, technically, a hired employee serving at Slayer's pleasure), he was being cut in on merch sales — an unusual accommodation for a musician who isn't an equal partner
Here are some of the specifics from the divorce papers:
-In 2010, Lombardo's Federal 1040 form declared an adjusted gross income of $174,836.
-In 2011, Lombardo made a good bit more than $200,000. Most of it was Slayer money. Payouts from Slayer included:
$106,650.00 Global Merch Advance
$ 17,776.31 Adjusted Payment for South American Tour
$ 14,349.22 from a tour with Rob Zombie (a dozen dates in under 3 weeks)
$ 8,505.35 in other "Merch Royalties"
$ 7,405.23 for Australian Tour 2/23/2011-3/8/2011
$ 6,699.18 for the summer European Tour
$ 5,130.45 Retail Touring Merch Royalties
$ 8,315.88 as a payout listed under "Royalties" as "The Big 4 Show"
As well as additional payments.
Elsewhere, the records reveal that Slayer paid Lombardo $5,000 a week while on tour, plus all his expenses and travel costs.
The papers also reveal when Slayer was off the road, Lombardo was paid $4,000 per month as a retainer.
His Ex wife admits in the court documents that with the divorce looming he planned to issue the band an ultimatum at the latest possible notice (Before a run of Australian Dates) to attain partnership status. Totally blew up in his face. He is the definitive Slayer drummer, no doubt. But he also seems to be a bit of an arsehole, and he was turfed out of the band on three occasions.
I haven't been following this too closely as the only thing about a Slayer reunion that interests me is if they play here again. Are they back together full time or have they just reformed to play a handful of big festivals?
Festivals, as it stands. But once the money starts pouring back in, who knows?
Sure KISS have been at this for decades. They to a farewell tour and then announce a new album tour and go at it again and again.
Sure look at Ozzy..and then when he finally wanted to do a final FINAL farewell tour he wasn't fit to do it...and now moans about not getting a chance to give the fans a send off....fkn joke...
Quote from: Carnage on September 26, 2024, 09:46:27 PMFestivals, as it stands. But once the money starts pouring back in, who knows?
Be great if they came back here I don't think I have ever seen a bad live show from them. Those shows two nights in a row in the Academy stand out in particular.
People always give Kerry King shit yet at one of the shows around the time of the Academy ones in the Limelight he came out and stood with everyone outside chatting and taking photos while Tom stayed in the venue, had them drive the car right up to the door and he climbed in through the boot just to avoid having to interact with anyone.
As for Ozzy isn't one final Black Sabbath reunion tour rumoured for next year?
Sure that Ministry gig here in the Tripod in 08 was suppose to be the bands final ever show.
I would put money on it if Andreas and Paulo don't do a reunion with Max then the Derrick Green tribute will also make a comeback in a few years.
Quote from: mickO))) on September 27, 2024, 11:33:31 AMAs for Ozzy isn't one final Black Sabbath reunion tour rumoured for next year?
Wont happen I'd say, sure Ozzy is fucked, who would pay to see that shambles?
Arenas-worth of people.
I think one show is being discussed, he'll never tour again.
If it's a one off they have to get Bill involved. Saw a pic of him and Iommi the other day so they're obviously on good enough terms.
I think that was what was being mooted, Ozzy said he wanted to do one last show with the actual Sabbath line-up before hanging up his piss-filled boots.
I can't see it honestly...but lets se what happens...tickets starting at €200 anyone?
Could be €2, I wouldn't bother with it. Paying to see him waddling back and forth across 10 feet of stage, reading the lyrics from a teleprompter when he's not miming, fuck that.
Unless you mean Slayer, but I wouldn't bother with them again either.
Quote from: Carnage on September 27, 2024, 01:26:04 PMCould be €2, I wouldn't bother with it. Paying to see him waddling back and forth across 10 feet of stage, reading the lyrics from a teleprompter when he's not miming, fuck that.
Unless you mean Slayer, but I wouldn't bother with them again either.
Nah I meant Ozzy alright....also I cant see what's in it for the others to be honest...unless they are making serious dosh = serious ticket prices
Ah it's hardly the money with the likes of sabbath at this stage. I wouldn't personally go across the road for them but fair play to them for giving it a go before it's over for good