https://blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-parts-ways-with-singer-erik-gronwall
Man these guys are fucking arseholes. Why they don't just get Bach in there and give the fans what they want is beyond me. They must love playing toilets.
I mean, there is no doubt Bach is a fucking overgrown child, but there must be a reason they can't hold on to a singer too. Even taking into account that Gronwall is ill.
I've sympathy for Gronwall of course but anyone could have seen this arrangement wasn't going to work long term.
I'd say yerwan will hit those notes. It seems like they have said no and we are not interested in money for so long that refuse to go back on their word now.
One side must be an absolute fucker to deal with.
Surely they would get high enough festival placement with a big reunion thing.
If Axl and Slash can make up them anything is possible. Not for these lads though.
Why would they want to be stuck touring with someone they seem to absolutely fucking hate?
It's not like Bach's voice is stellar these days anyway, any reunion would just be a trainwreck
Fuck them. I still haven't forgiven them for stealing the band name off poor auld Brush Shiels and Garry Moore.
I still wouldn't mind seeing them with Bach. He's aged but he has the charisma and they're his songs.
Gronwall is a great singer and fit really well with the band.
Shame to see him leave so soon, but I get where he's coming from.
I know it's only a stop-gap gig for her, but Lizzy Hale would actually be a really good voalist for them. Can't wait to see some clips of her performing with them.
I like her vocals, and she is a good guitarist, but her songs leave me cold. So I'd be interested in hearing her sing the Skid Row material.
Some mad stuff being suggested here.
Skid Row only works with Bach. Nobody is crying over any of the many singers that have left.
Whilst thinking of who's passed through the ranks I remembered the feckin Dragonforce guy was in before Mr X Factor. It'll be easier to make a list of who hasn't sung for them at this rate.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on March 27, 2024, 05:49:05 PMI still wouldn't mind seeing them with Bach. He's aged but he has the charisma and they're his songs.
Ah they're not though, he's got co-writing credits on a handful of songs across the albums he was on
I quite liked the last album with Gronwall, would have enjoyed seeing that lineup but understandable why he left
You know what I mean, Bach was there. He's a few credits on the subsequent records. He belongs there.
Not a younglad they plucked from the voice or whatever. Not the same.
I remember on the old forum a few were saying Tony Harnell was a brilliant fit. Grand, perfunctory, can do a job I'd say but possess zero of Bach's character. The voice guy will be forgotten in a month and they'll have a new best singer and everyone will say what a great fit they are.
Shame, that last album was the best thing they've done since Slave. Low bar, I know, but it was a very good album. I can fully understand why they wouldn't want to be in the same room as oul Seb, to be fair and now that his voice is shot... yeah, fuck that.
I really liked 'Subhuman Race' to be honest, and I'd rate it above that last album. And the two 'United World Rebellion' eps were pretty damn good too.
Yeah, Bach's voice is blown out. But Angel Down was a great record IMO, and should appeal to fans of Skid Row. His work after that is dodgy enough though. The few tracks out from the new one are OK I guess.
I've never been able to get all the way through Subhuman Race. It's a baffling record. It sounds dull and shit, even though Bob Rock produced it, and the songs are abysmal. Such a let down after what had gone before. Terrible, terrible album, probably would have it in my Top Ten album let downs, seriously :laugh:
I'm genuinely stunned someone could find something to like about it :D
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I don't know what it is that appeals to me, becuase they were clearly attempting to go heavier on certain songs. but also trying appeal to fans of the grunge/alternative thing on a lot of that stuff, which would normally make me want to sever my own head, but for whatever reason I'm just a fan of the album, always have been. I realize I'm probably in the minority. Even among my friends who were always big Skid Row fans, I reckon I'm the only one who has listened to that album past 1995.
I will say that the songs sounded better live though.
I have to say fair fucks to them for not entertaining the thought of taking Bach back into the fold, they don't need the money so why put yourself through that shite? Bach was some fucking singer in his prime years but an annoying cunt..
Subhuman Race was a car crash of an album, with a car crash going on behind the scenes, only song I ever liked from it was Frozen..
The footage of Lizzy Hale singing with Skid Row is savage. She makes those songs sound like they have grit and pure rock fury.
If you watch them beside footage of Bach singing the likes of 18 and life there is no comparison. Age gap and life of rocking' and rollin' blah blah aside she sounds brilliant.
Much better than the stuff her own band puts out.
Has Sebastian Bach's head exploded yet?
No but he has said he no longer follows her on social media.
That'll teach her!
The Hale thing is a complete joke. Like having an x-factor singer do the job.
A cooked Bach is better than anything really.
You realise most of you have been saying each successive singer is doing a great job and it "actually sounds great"
Solinger
Harnell
ZP
Mr Voice Sweden
Hale
They can't hold onto a singer for two minutes. I think the band are the problem.
Solid logic there, to be fair!
Hale is great singer, though.
But it would be something to see Bach back in the picture.
Yes must clarify, Hale is indeed a great singer but just think there's something off about this.
I've never said anything a true other singers. She can sing those songs well. There is no denying that. For Bach to do do those songs well they would need to down tune loads.
I'd go see them in a flash with him on vocals but for now they sound great.
Quotebut for now they sound great
And it's because the band have adopted this attitude that they continue to play bowling alleys and toilets.
There's a reason that Bach got fucked out in the first place and everytime they make some kind of attempt on a potential reunion it all falls apart so that tells its own story. They don't need the money apparently because they we astute with it in their heyday. As for the revolving door or singers who knows, they all probably lived in the shadow of Bach, who there's know doubting he had some fucking voice in the day and looked the part. Yes there would be a potential payday if Bach rejoined, but it's like getting back with an ex gf, all the old shite will eventually bubble up again...
Others have done it. Maiden and Bruce for example. And look at the amount of shit that was slung in both directions in that case.
Arguably the singer/frontman is the most important role in a band. It's not just about the voice it's the charisma and the personality that goes with it. There's also a danger element with Bach in that you don't know what the fuck is going to happen night to night - you've only really Axl and Bach in that old school category now.
Priest is probably a better example, Ripper was technically a younger singer with a voice in better shape but Halford is the man and Ripper has zero stage presence.
People just want to see Bach with them in any shape or form. You're lying to yourself if you reckon anyone on that list is a truly viable option. They should put the shit aside and just get on with it, everyone else is able to.
They should cop the fuck on, give the fans what they want and get Zakk Wylde in.
Didn't Bruce and Halford initially leave those bands to pursue other musical and personal pursuits, and it was their own choosing, while Bach was fucked out of the band by the band, there's a difference surely?
When Bruce went back to Maiden he could still do the job at a high level as could Halford with Priest.
Bach on the other hand sounds like a cat with nasal issues unfortunately.
I'm amazed that nobody's mentioned Vince Neil yet.
Quote from: The Heretic on May 22, 2024, 08:10:47 AMYes there would be a potential payday if Bach rejoined, but it's like getting back with an ex gf, all the old shite will eventually bubble up again...
I wonder how much that would be worth to them though.
Firstly, aside from an initial bump, how much would their status go up really? Skid Row had two multi platinum albums, but didn't sell nearly as many records as someone like say, Poison, who were still 3rd on the bill with Motley Crue and Def Leppard on that stadium tour.
They aren't going to be headlining stadiums or massive arenas, or making G'N'R money. Depending on the territory, on their initial run at least they would likely be playing bigger venues than the current line-up, or Bach solo, but would that momentum last beyond that?
Also, I would presume Snake, Scotti and Rachel have a partnership, with the likes of Erik Gronwall or Rob Hammersmith being a salaried members. There is no way Bach would accept a smiliar deal, even if his smaller piece comes from a bigger pie. He's either going to want to be a partner, or have a really significant pay day to make up for the fact that he isn't. After all, he is taking the lions share of the profits from his solo career.
Also, there is the danger that things won't work out. Will they get sick of him again, or he will want even more money or control etc as things progress? And what the fuck do they do then? It's one thing to lose Gronwall and have people wonder what the fuck you are at, but it's quite another to have Bach back, and then leave again, and
then look for yet another replacement.
This is just my uneducated take of course. What the fuck do I know? Maybe if they played it right, managed things well, perhaps planned for retirement after a few years, or anticipated the risks of any potential fallout it could work for them.
Quote from: The Heretic on May 21, 2024, 04:10:18 PMHas Sebastian Bach's head exploded yet?
Apparently so. He basically just said that his replacements (and I presume this is also a pretty shitty dig at Gronwall's health issues) are "pussies".
https://metalsludge.tv/motor-mouth-sebastian-bach-goes-on-rant-insinuating-skid-rows-replacement-singers-just-might-be-pssies/ (https://metalsludge.tv/motor-mouth-sebastian-bach-goes-on-rant-insinuating-skid-rows-replacement-singers-just-might-be-pssies/)
QuoteHe basically just said that his replacements (and I presume this is also a pretty shitty dig at Gronwall's health issues) are "pussies".
I wouldn't want Bach to change. Rock is supposed to be dangerous. Bach didn't get to where he got to by watching his mouth.
In relation to your other post - some good points made there, 100% it's not like a Sabbath reunion or whatever but it would be mutually beneficial. I can see how Bach generates a modest income, he only really tours the US and he has other opportunities here and there - broadway, TV appearances etc. I do not understand how Skid Row continue as a viable financial entity, Biker Fests, Bowling alleys and any shithole you can think of. Look at their touring partners too, Warrant Buckcherry, Co-Headliners with Ugly Kid Joe - and at that they can't even fill the toilets they play.
Given their ages I think a reunion could well prove to give both parties a financial boost. They'd definitely do ok on the festival circuit. They'd go down well with punters and although they wouldn't be headlining Download for example I'm sure they could command better dollar than they're generating now. Doing their own shows might be more questionable, really don't know what the numbers would be there but surely it'd be better than what both sides attract now.
The partnership thing is spot on but nobody is looking for a new record here so a share of the live spoils could be an option. Though we are presuming Bach has no financial ties with the band, who knows what was signed upon his exit.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on May 23, 2024, 07:17:34 AMGiven their ages I think a reunion could well prove to give both parties a financial boost. They'd definitely do ok on the festival circuit. They'd go down well with punters and although they wouldn't be headlining Download for example I'm sure they could command better dollar than they're generating now. Doing their own shows might be more questionable, really don't know what the numbers would be there but surely it'd be better than what both sides attract now.
I do think the fact that the original line-up hasn't played in decades would be an attraction certainly. And I bet they would do much better in Europe than a lot of the other 80's/early 90's bands would.
They would definitely do the business in Japan.
Quote from: The Wretch on May 23, 2024, 03:05:12 AMApparently so. He basically just said that his replacements (and I presume this is also a pretty shitty dig at Gronwall's health issues) are "pussies".
https://metalsludge.tv/motor-mouth-sebastian-bach-goes-on-rant-insinuating-skid-rows-replacement-singers-just-might-be-pssies/ (https://metalsludge.tv/motor-mouth-sebastian-bach-goes-on-rant-insinuating-skid-rows-replacement-singers-just-might-be-pssies/)
Well his latest replacement has one......so he's almost right...
:laugh:
I see Rob Affuso is playing drums on Bach's recent music videos.
Don't think they've recorded together, though.
Also!
Has anyone seen Scotti Hill in those latest Youtube clips?
Looks like hes morphing into John Carpenter.
Quote from: jobrok1 on May 23, 2024, 11:28:09 AMI see Rob Affuso is playing drums on Bach's recent music videos.
Don't think they've recorded together, though.
Also!
Has anyone seen Scotti Hill in those latest Youtube clips?
Looks like hes morphing into John Carpenter.
I noticed that as well..jees he's aged a lot..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/skid-rows-dave-snake-sabo-rules-out-reunion-with-sebastian-bach-its-not-gonna-happen
More biker fests and BBQ'S so.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on May 24, 2024, 09:21:26 AMhttps://blabbermouth.net/news/skid-rows-dave-snake-sabo-rules-out-reunion-with-sebastian-bach-its-not-gonna-happen
More biker fests and BBQ'S so.
You have to admire them for sticking to their guns, they must really really hate him....
A couple of days ago Bach was going about some big thing he had just found out which would clear up a lot of miscommunication between both parties. He made it out to be something did or done that each blamed the other for but apparently neither party were to blame at all.
Still I can see it them resolving it.
Quote from: Carnage on May 22, 2024, 05:15:24 PMI'm amazed that nobody's mentioned Vince Neil yet.
Depends on the buffet at catering.
:laugh:
Money talks, they'll do it eventually.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on May 24, 2024, 01:45:53 PMQuote from: Carnage on May 22, 2024, 05:15:24 PMI'm amazed that nobody's mentioned Vince Neil yet.
Depends on the buffet at catering.
I'd say aul Vince would struggle to get through 'Happy Birthday' these days. And not just becuase he's excited to cut the cake.
Sure he's been squealing "Prime Ice Cream" for years, no doubt some cake would be nice to go with it.
:laugh:
My hoonk, hyyaaa, keyshamaharrd...
Quote from: The Wretch on May 25, 2024, 02:10:11 AMQuote from: Sworntothecans on May 24, 2024, 01:45:53 PMQuote from: Carnage on May 22, 2024, 05:15:24 PMI'm amazed that nobody's mentioned Vince Neil yet.
Depends on the buffet at catering.
I'd say aul Vince would struggle to get through 'Happy Birthday' these days. And not just becuase he's excited to cut the cake.
Everytime he puts another pound on Razzle from Hanoi Rocks is like "Eat up Fatboy, I'm waiting to kick the shite of of ya!"
:laugh:
Sunday morning is the only relaxed morning here at home and whilst doing the dishes I had the self titled on. Banger after banger.
To anyone looking it was like some cunt either having a breakdown or stuck in a montage from an 80's film.
Some of those bass fills just elevate the songs to another level.
Quote from: Circlepit on May 26, 2024, 09:19:08 AMSunday morning is the only relaxed morning here at home and whilst doing the dishes I had the self titled on. Banger after banger.
To anyone looking it was like some cunt either having a breakdown or stuck in a montage from an 80's film.
Some of those bass fills just elevate the songs to another level.
Yeah, first two album are savage.
I had it on on Friday night. I think Slave is better but it has some real rippers alright. 18 and Life, an obvious choice maybe, but it's so damn good.
All of it. That guitar tone is so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTfZYgJHLwY
"Sebastian Bach Opens Up On Unfollowing Lzzy Hale"
This the "danger" people are looking for from Bach? :laugh:
Unfortunately their ages the only potential danger on stage is an uncontrolled bowel movement..
"Sebastian Boxes" :laugh:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/rachel-bolan-skid-row-has-been-talking-to-a-few-no-name-singers-about-joining-the-band
Beautiful illustration of why they'd rather live in obscurity than hook with with the spa ever again :laugh:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/sebastian-bach-blasts-skid-row-says-he-can-name-every-fing-one-of-their-nine-replacement-singers
Bach's gonna Bach. ;D
He goin full on Paul Di'Anno mode...
Yep..he shit on his own doorstep and now has to attempt to clean it up..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/sebastian-bach-explains-his-detroit-outburst-says-aholes-comment-was-directed-at-his-pre-skid-row-band-madam-x (https://blabbermouth.net/news/sebastian-bach-explains-his-detroit-outburst-says-aholes-comment-was-directed-at-his-pre-skid-row-band-madam-x)