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Title: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 13, 2024, 06:42:30 PM
Announced today, personally won't be going. They are a great live act and you'll get bang for Buck with the setlist but that's a cunt of a venue.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Naraka on February 13, 2024, 06:52:08 PM
New single released today too, Vedder's vocals are terrible!
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 13, 2024, 07:20:04 PM
Yeah, huge fan but the vocals have been in decline for a while now. Also think they're not really arsed anymore. Meet up once in a blue moon to knock out a record or do a handful of shows.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pain Medicine on February 13, 2024, 08:13:19 PM
Insane prices and having to pre-register and enter a lottery just to be able to access the general sale (not a pre sale). Strange times.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 13, 2024, 08:46:52 PM
What's the price?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Giggles on February 13, 2024, 09:21:15 PM
QuoteTicket prices are yet to be confirmed for the band's upcoming world tour.

However, according to a Pearl Jam Community page, standing tickets for Manchester's Ten Club Members are currently priced at £160, while the band's gig in Berlin is reportedly priced at €174.50.


https://www.msn.com/en-ie/entertainment/music/pearl-jam-at-marlay-park-dublin-ticket-prices-pre-sale-info-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know/ar-BB1idXRJ
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on February 13, 2024, 09:51:41 PM
Weren't they the ones taking the fight to Ticketmaster?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: astfgyl on February 13, 2024, 10:01:40 PM
Jaysus, to think I'd have considered bothering me hole at one point.

Sands of time and so on...
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Paul keohane on February 13, 2024, 11:09:49 PM
Tbh im not arsed with big outdoor concerts with years.Rammstein,ACDC and Pearl Jam,im not a huge fan of any of them,but if tickets were reasonably priced id probably go to one or two of them.But fuck that,ticket prices are out of control!.

Its like we're all accepting that €120/€130/€140 etc is the norm now.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Ducky on February 13, 2024, 11:55:56 PM
I would love to see them again (went to their gig in The Point in 2006), but not a fucking chance at that price. Even half that would be pushing it.

Double "ara fuck off, lads" that you have to register to enter a lotto to even be in with a chance to buy tickets.

Triple "ara fuck off, lads" that the living, breathing sack of miserable shite know as Richard Ashcroft is supporting them here (Australia get The Pixies).
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Naraka on February 14, 2024, 07:34:34 AM
I think I paid something like £17 to see them in the Point in 1996! For a band that took on Ticketmaster in the '90's over pricing they've completely lost their way.
Musically, they've started to slide too. Vedder's vocal delivery isn't a patch on what it was. Matt Cameron has never felt right as their drummer either. He's a phenomenal drummer but his style has never suited Pearl Jam.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 14, 2024, 08:44:19 AM
Spot on Nakara.

They are one of my favourite bands, but the decline has been in effect for a long time now. The last 4-5 records have been non events. Vedder has aged but he's also neglected to take care of his voice. It's either passable or terrible.

The die hards annoy me. Can't accept any of the above and there's always fanfare with whatever new track comes out. I don't hear anyone crying when they ignore Backspacer or Lightning Bolt in a setlist.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: The Heretic on February 14, 2024, 09:02:44 AM
If the sheeple didn't pay those prices etc etc..they
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Naraka on February 14, 2024, 09:26:23 AM
I liked their s/t and Backspacer, I thought Gigaton and Lightning Bolt were poor. I remember hearing them for the first time in '92 and being blown away by them. They were my favourite band throughout the '90's but they went to shit after Binaural.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: StoutAndAle on February 14, 2024, 09:39:19 AM
They can shove it up their holes.

Pearl Jam played in a Millstreet horse shed to stick it to Ticketmaster. £16 for a ticket.

Pearl Jam are charging nearly €200 to stand in a field on the M50. Who are they sticking it to now?

It's a Saturday night too - hotel prices in Dublin will be something else.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: StoutAndAle on February 14, 2024, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: Naraka on February 14, 2024, 09:26:23 AMI liked their s/t and Backspacer, I thought Gigaton and Lightning Bolt were poor. I remember hearing them for the first time in '92 and being blown away by them. They were my favourite band throughout the '90's but they went to shit after Binaural.

The first 5 tracks on "Backspacer" are decent and then it fades to nothing. "World Wide Suicide" and "Army Reserve" are the only two tracks that I remember from the S/T.

I'd be the same as you, they were never my favourite band though - but, when I heard the stuff from "Ten", I thought that they were great. Clicked immediately - having started secondary school and all that. Fairly intense with them up to and including "Yield" (queued outside HMV for a copy of "Vitology" - with only 5 other spacers) and then got bored on "Binaural". Reckon that it's the last Pearl Jam record that I listened to all the way through more than once.

I still play the first 5 albums a good bit (plus "Live On Two Legs") but I have no need to investigate them further beyond listening to new releases once.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Carnage on February 14, 2024, 10:04:29 AM
First 3 are all that I bother with and usually just Ten at that - Vs. and Vitalogy each have plenty of filler. They're a 'best of' band after that, it all blends into one for me. Live On Two Legs is pretty good, their live stuff is worth picking through but I wouldn't be bothered with this for half the price, never mind what they'll be looking for.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Trev on February 14, 2024, 10:22:58 AM
Saw them up in Belfast years ago, back around 2010 maybe? Seemed a bit phoned in at that stage, thought maybe it was an off night but looking at some recent footage I think they're just not arsed anymore

Love the first four albums but it went rapidly downhill since then
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Don Gately on February 14, 2024, 11:39:40 AM
Fuck this Smashing Pumpkins in 3 Arena the week before
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Naraka on February 14, 2024, 11:46:51 AM
I think when Gossard and Ament handed over the majority of the songwriting to Vedder it became a totally different band both creatively and as an entity. To be honest, I probably listen to the Temple of the Dog and Mother Love Bone albums more than any Pearl Jam albums.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: jobrok1 on February 14, 2024, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: Naraka on February 14, 2024, 11:46:51 AMTo be honest, I probably listen to the Temple of the Dog and Mother Love Bone albums more than any Pearl Jam albums.

Same!

Went to see Vedder and Hansard in the MArquee a few years back.
Mainly cause the missus has a serious soft spot for Vedder.
It was a good show but fuck me sideways, the number of Vedder/PJ fan-cunts in the crowd was borderline unbearable.
I can only imagine what a full blown PJ gig of that size will be like.   :-X
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 14, 2024, 02:42:29 PM
QuoteI think when Gossard and Ament handed over the majority of the songwriting to Vedder it became a totally different band both creatively and as an entity. To be honest, I probably listen to the Temple of the Dog and Mother Love Bone albums more than any Pearl Jam albums.

Throw mad season into that pile.

Stone and Mike don't seem bothered at all and I'd question Vedder's songwriting capabilities from a musical standpoint. Bland is the word. These days it's hard to tell the difference between Pearl Jam and his solo stuff.

I was at that Belfast gig it was 2010 alright. That was the first one I came away from underwhelmed. I'd seen the. On the self titled tour only a few years previous and it was so much better.

The last few times I've seen them they've been on but Ed's vocals have been questionable.


Don't get me started on that stupid fuckin bromance he has with Hansard. Glen is a crime against music, the fact he practically does the gigs with vedder means I'll never hit one of those solo shows
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Trev on February 14, 2024, 03:03:11 PM
Remember seeing someone say that Hansard is the type of lad to find an acoustic at a gaf session and proceed to wreck the night for everyone. Think that sums him up perfectly
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Naraka on February 14, 2024, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on February 14, 2024, 02:42:29 PM
QuoteI think when Gossard and Ament handed over the majority of the songwriting to Vedder it became a totally different band both creatively and as an entity. To be honest, I probably listen to the Temple of the Dog and Mother Love Bone albums more than any Pearl Jam albums.

Throw mad season into that pile.

Stone and Mike don't seem bothered at all and I'd question Vedder's songwriting capabilities from a musical standpoint. Bland is the word. These days it's hard to tell the difference between Pearl Jam and his solo stuff.

I was at that Belfast gig it was 2010 alright. That was the first one I came away from underwhelmed. I'd seen the. On the self titled tour only a few years previous and it was so much better.

The last few times I've seen them they've been on but Ed's vocals have been questionable.


Don't get me started on that stupid fuckin bromance he has with Hansard. Glen is a crime against music, the fact he practically does the gigs with vedder means I'll never hit one of those solo shows


Should've mentioned Mad Season alright. Some of Ament's solo stuff is ok too.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Paul keohane on February 14, 2024, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: Trev on February 14, 2024, 03:03:11 PMRemember seeing someone say that Hansard is the type of lad to find an acoustic at a gaf session and proceed to wreck the night for everyone. Think that sums him up perfectly
:laugh:
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on February 14, 2024, 06:37:33 PM
Forgot to pick up on the Matt Cameron point made earlier. Couldn't agree more, he's a dreadful fit for the band. Very talented for sure, and has written some of their cooler latter day tunes but on the stuff he hasn't written he shows himself up. Live, he plays the stuff way too fast, there's zero feel to the older stuff especially.

The two Dave's were their best drummers. Abruzezee especially, gave them a bit of wallop. Even Jack Irons on Yield and No Code was closer to their vibe.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: open face surgery on February 14, 2024, 06:47:41 PM
Don't like PJ but Dave Abruzezee was/is an unbelievable rock drummer.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Megalodon on February 14, 2024, 08:22:16 PM
Charging through the nose is one thing.

Even more shameless coming from a band who once challenged the problematic Livenation monopoly, now one of their biggest racketeers.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Brodent on February 15, 2024, 11:58:42 AM
No Code is their chef-d'oeuvre for me, top to bottom, followed by Vitalogy, Ten and Yield. I'd pick one or two songs from Versus and Binaural that I'd have any interest in today, and would place both albums miles behind Riot Act.  They fell off a cliff after than when they handed song writing duties over, becoming the dour radio-rock-by-numbers, Eddie Vedder and Friends.

I'd agree with the comments on Matt Cameron.  He's a master behind the kit in Soundgarden, his style unlike anyone else I can think of, but is a complete misfit for PJ and vice versa.  Having said that, he wrote the best tracks on Riot Act (and more), and it sounds like Matt's mitts are all over the new single too, which is the best thing I've heard from them in 20 years.  Could be wrong about his input here of course.

So what I'm saying is, I'd rather drop my balls into boiling water than pay €200 to stand in a field listening to Vedder pontificate about Ukraine or Trump or some other shit, when I caught the No Code tour in the Point in '96 for 16 or 17 punts.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Ducky on February 15, 2024, 06:26:01 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on February 14, 2024, 06:47:41 PMDon't like PJ but Dave Abruzezee was/is an unbelievable rock drummer.

Agree 100% there. Pity he wanted to do the rock star thing a bit too much
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: open face surgery on February 15, 2024, 06:51:57 PM
Was that his downfall? I half remember reading years ago that they all hated him but not 100% on it.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Ducky on February 16, 2024, 12:08:27 AM
I think the gist of it was he was of the "we're rock stars, fuck yeah" persuasion, and clashed heads with the rest of them as they were having none of it. And he didn't agree with their Ticketmaster stance.

He didn't get on with Vedder or Ament in particular, plus Vedder didn't like his playing style.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Don Gately on February 16, 2024, 03:46:31 PM
it seems his ticketmaster stance and their's has somewhat aligned wha?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Ducky on February 17, 2024, 01:52:54 AM
 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Well at least they had some teeth back then. They're twee as shite now.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: HeartWorm on February 18, 2024, 05:35:47 PM
Marley Park is a horrendous venue and they'll definitely bring out Glen Hansard to ruin a Pogues song or some other Oirish cover.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Ducky on February 18, 2024, 08:26:16 PM
Paddy Casey supported them in the Point in 2006... I'd take him again over Hansard (not that I'm going to this).
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: ldj on February 21, 2024, 10:57:46 PM
I'm not a PJ fan but I thought they'd have more self-respect than to make a record with that Andrew Watt guy, Ozzy will do anything to stay relevant but Pearl Jam making a record with the Post Malone guy is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Megalodon on February 23, 2024, 05:08:00 PM
Quote from: ldj on February 21, 2024, 10:57:46 PMI'm not a PJ fan but I thought they'd have more self-respect than to make a record with that Andrew Watt guy, Ozzy will do anything to stay relevant but Pearl Jam making a record with the Post Malone guy is embarrassing.

Think he was actually part of the no name ensemble Eddie had as his touring band charging €100 for a few years ago here. Lad wasn't even born when Ten came out  :laugh:

They were some chancers with that verified fan crap, over-estimated their own greed.

Having flung a chunk of their fans to make believe waitlists within 3 hours of on sale clearly not getting the desired draw they just opened up to general sale.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pain Medicine on February 23, 2024, 06:10:05 PM
All this registration and pre-sale bullshit is such a waste of everyone's time.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: stearl on February 23, 2024, 08:19:13 PM
Quote from: Pain Medicine on February 23, 2024, 06:10:05 PMAll this registration and pre-sale bullshit is such a waste of everyone's time.

But it's to stop the touts :-\ - overlooking the fact that TM is probably the most unscrupulous tout of the lot.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Ducky on February 24, 2024, 12:00:15 AM
Quote from: Pain Medicine on February 23, 2024, 06:10:05 PMAll this registration and pre-sale bullshit is such a waste of everyone's time.

Yeah even if I didn't feel like a cash teat for these cunts to be milked dry and was okay with paying the asking price, I couldn't be arsed jumping through all the hoops.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Ollkiller on February 24, 2024, 01:27:41 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on February 14, 2024, 06:47:41 PMDon't like PJ but Dave Abruzezee was/is an unbelievable rock drummer.

He's a beast on the kit. His performance on the unplugged gig was spectacular.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on March 22, 2024, 01:54:14 PM
Another new track gone up....

https://youtu.be/H7UrYoOhCMA

Pretty uninspired as you can imagine. They've become obsessed with throwaway three chord punk/garage rock garbage, sounds like anything they released off Gigaton, Lightning Bolt etc etc
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Carnage on March 22, 2024, 01:59:12 PM
They've been saying that this tour will feature a shorter set and "something different". New album in full? Sounds dreadful either way.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Naraka on March 22, 2024, 03:05:26 PM
Shit song. Dark Matter was shit too.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on March 24, 2024, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: Carnage on March 22, 2024, 01:59:12 PMThey've been saying that this tour will feature a shorter set and "something different". New album in full? Sounds dreadful either way.

Considering the price a shorter set is not on. Unless its to make more time for a reunited Led Zeppelin to do a full set.

And ACDC.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Kollin on June 23, 2024, 01:44:39 PM
Setlist (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pearl-jam/2024/marlay-park-dublin-ireland-5baba798.html)

That were great.

Shuttle bus out and back. Got in for Richard Ashcroft. He played mostly stuff off Urban Hymns, perfect for a nice summer's evening.

Didn't spring for golden circle tickets for Pearl Jam so they were a like ants on the stage. The massive wraparound screens were class though. A nice juicy setlist that brought me back in time. The sound was crystal clear too.

I left for "Setting Sun", thinking they'd close with it. Was half way to the car park when they started into "Alive"  ;D
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: Pagan Saviour on June 23, 2024, 01:53:44 PM
I see one of the staff was assaulted by one of Dublins finest. Shithole of a city.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam - Marley Park June 22nd
Post by: astfgyl on June 23, 2024, 11:04:50 PM
How's Eddie's voice holding up?