Cool lineup and am presuming it's the reduced configuration in the 3Arena, would those bands do 3-4K?
Hell yeah! Excellent news :-* I love all 3 bands, although I'm out of touch with Kreator for a fair few albums at this stage.
Great line up,that will appeal to a lot of heads!.Whats the capacity of the national boxing arena??didnt Testament and a few others fill that comfortably about 2 years ago?.So add add a few thousand to that id say,its got a bit of a big event feel to it so will draw a good crowd.
Boxing Arena was 2k approx
3arena is 14k, not a hope
Ah i know the line up won't fill the place! :laugh:
5k be my guess!
Picked you up wrong bro, thought you meant a few thousand more and it'd be full
what do we reckon ticket prices will be
€72 a ticket...steep but a good line up so I'll probs fork out for it. For me Testament should be the headliners with the other two as support but that's the age old Big 4 debate for you!
Fantastic line up and tickets will no doubt he snapped up fast.
Having said that, I won't be going on account of Bruxelles no longer catering to the unhygienic and I'm not prepared to have a shower for the sake of being let into a pub for some pints before or after the gig.
€72 - Fuck That.
Bit much for me, especially considering how much Kreator and Anthrax have played here in the last 10 years or so
Think there has been a jump in ticket prices and this is just how much gigs are going to cost from now on. The fact that Sepultura and Jinjer sold out the Olympia in a few hours charging €70+ indicates people are willing to pay these new prices.
Personally don't mind on this occasion as I like all 3 bands and would expect to pay €40 to see Testament, Anthrax and Kreator individually in the academy. Just hope Testament get a decent set.
This is the kind of tour we always miss out on due to not having a 5k capacity venue so I'm glad to see it come to Dublin, hope it sells well enough.
QuoteThe fact that Sepultura and Jinjer sold out the Olympia in a few hours charging €70+ indicates people are willing to pay these new prices.
I would say that's more because it's the last jaunt. I wouldn't be paying 70+ to see Sepultura ordinarily.
Great announcement, very happy with the 3 arena, able to bring the young lad. I always feel these days it could be the last time around for some of these bands so gotta go. Never seen Kreator live either.
Yeah those prices are actually alright when put in the context of inflation with everything else when you consider tickets for a single big act were about 60-65 for donkeys years. I remember paying 60 for Depeche Mode in the Point in 2006. An extra 10 or 15 more a lifetime later for smaller but triple the amount of acts is fine.
Quote from: Trev on January 22, 2024, 09:32:38 PMBit much for me, especially considering how much Kreator and Anthrax have played here in the last 10 years or so
Kreator have played 3 times in 11 years the same amount they've played in last 20 years!
0 times in 7 years is not something I'd conjure to be regular meself and that's before you gotta note they've not gone beyond the pale in that time either.
My young fella nearly collapsed when he saw the line-up.
I'd love to take him, but being a Monday night probably means this will be skipped, I'm afraid.
Feels like every gig announced sells out or is absolutely rammed. I reckon this will end up doing really, really well.
Like in the early 2000s i can definitely remember Kreator playing Eammon Dorans?.They seem to have exploded in popularity since.
Yeah, think that was 2002, great gig though Mille whinged about the venue at every opportunity. Seen them supporting Cannibal Corpse the year previous too which was also a good show.
All three bands have enjoyed a resurgence for sure but it's at Academy, Olympia, Vicar Street level. It'll be interesting to see how it translates to arenas.
Anthrax are a difficult band to judge;they are in between big and medium sized in terms of popularity.As Someone mentioned above Dublin probably needs 4/5k venue.
That's the thing, I couldn't see Anthrax doing 5k anywhere.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on January 23, 2024, 09:49:02 AMYeah, think that was 2002, great gig though Mille whinged about the venue at every opportunity. Seen them supporting Cannibal Corpse the year previous too which was also a good show.
All three bands have enjoyed a resurgence for sure but it's at Academy, Olympia, Vicar Street level. It'll be interesting to see how it translates to arenas.
The gig with CC and Krisiun is one of my fondest gig memories ever. Not an Anthrax fan but I'll probably head to this.
Will Charlie and Scott actually show up? seems to me one or other is always missing.....
I am pretty sure I seen anthrax 3 years in a row and either one was missing.
R
100%
Any time I've seen Anthrax it's been a different line-up. :laugh:
Also, out of all those bands they consistently deliver the worst bang for buck in respect to setlist. The same fuckin stuff every time. So much good material they could play yet they stick to their dopey covers Got the Time? and Antisocial with the usual selection from Among the Living, so lazy. It's criminal that they ignore the bush era but they could dig into Persistence or some of the other records a bit more.
They ignore the Bush era because most of it isn't great.Dont get me wrong Bush is a great vocalist;but give me Got the time and Antisocial live over some mid 90s stuff anyday.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on January 23, 2024, 12:32:09 PMAlso, out of all those bands they consistently deliver the worst bang for buck in respect to setlist. The same fuckin stuff every time. So much good material they could play yet they stick to their dopey covers Got the Time? and Antisocial with the usual selection from Among the Living, so lazy. It's criminal that they ignore the bush era but they could dig into Persistence or some of the other records a bit more.
That really pissed me off when they supported Slayer a few yeara ago. A 7 song set and they played 2 covers.
QuoteThey ignore the Bush era because most of it isn't great.Dont get me wrong Bush is a great vocalist;but give me Got the time and Antisocial live over some mid 90s stuff anyday.
Ah no, fuck that. Some bangers across all the records there, I'd take anything off Sound Of White Noise over anything else they've done to be honest. I've seen the band with either singer too and Bush comes out on top for me, better frontman and you got a far more varied setlist with John fronting the band. I'll admit he doesn't do the earlier stuff as well as Belladonna but the likes of Keep It In The Family sound heftier with Bush at the helm.
QuoteThat really pissed me off when they supported Slayer a few yeara ago. A 7 song set and they played 2 covers
Yep, weakest band on the bill by a mile. They also played themselves on and off the stage to the Cowboys From Hell Riff, pathetic.
Quote from: jobrok1 on January 23, 2024, 08:55:32 AMMy young fella nearly collapsed when he saw the line-up.
I'd love to take him, but being a Monday night probably means this will be skipped, I'm afraid.
Man, make the sacrifice for the guy! When would he ever get the chance again? He could sleep on the way home, or go into school an hour or two late.
It reminds me of a Cork lad in secondary school back in the day who went to school as usual in his uniform, but had his metal clothes in his bag, so changed out and fecked off to catch Kreator in the Top Hat instead.
Hence he earned the nickname Baggy :abbath:
I mitched half a day at school to hop on the train for Megadeth in the Point in '91, I'd have killed to see this line up back then. Bring him ta fuck.
Think I'll give this a miss. Would have been all over this 25+ years ago when Bush was in Anthrax and Testament had The Gathering out. Sadly, Testament haven't released anything of worth since and while I like Belladonna, I've seen them stick to that same damn setlist too many times since his return.
Someone mentioned them not playing any Bush era these days and that's 100% down to Joey flat out refusing to do it. He butchered Only the few times they managed to convince him to try it and he's either incapable of singing the lower register stuff or he deliberately doesn't bother to try it.
If only they would take things out of his hands
Quote from: Bürggermeister on January 23, 2024, 11:07:48 PMIf only they would take things out of his hands
...and that's it!
Anthrax are a very divisive band,weather it be members,albums,live performances etc.
Bwah €87.55 after Ticketmaster charges for a standing ticket.
Jaysus.
€15 in charges! Fooking scandalous!,
Not a fucking hope.
Lets say 5k turn up,thats €75k in charges!.What the fuck do they actually do to justify it?,like most people these days dont even buy physicsl tickest.
Quote from: Pain Medicine on January 24, 2024, 10:19:08 AMBwah €87.55 after Ticketmaster charges for a standing ticket.
For that kind of money I will see 2-3 (arguably better) gigs. Yeah, greedy Satan is real. I saw Kreator 2 months ago (festival appearance) and apart from the older songs it was a pitiful experience. I'm not going to feed them again.
Quote from: Pain Medicine on January 24, 2024, 10:19:08 AMBwah €87.55 after Ticketmaster charges for a standing ticket.
Ah ta fuck, and there I'd be slagging herself for paying similar for Pink.
It was €7.55 in charges, the standing tickets are actually €80.
The €72.20 is for seats except there's 'Platinum' pricing on the seats too. €105-€120 for the central blocks.
Don't blame anyone for not bothering.
Quote€105-€120 for the central blocks
:laugh:
Fairly sure I Paid 60-65 for Slayer/Lamb Of God/Anthrax/Obituary for the same seats same venue not too long ago and a much heftier line-up.
Quote from: Airneanach on January 23, 2024, 08:15:48 AMYeah those prices are actually alright when put in the context of inflation with everything else when you consider tickets for a single big act were about 60-65 for donkeys years. I remember paying 60 for Depeche Mode in the Point in 2006. An extra 10 or 15 more a lifetime later for smaller but triple the amount of acts is fine.
Yeah fuck past me.
Quote from: Malco on January 24, 2024, 01:05:20 PMI saw Kreator 2 months ago (festival appearance) and apart from the older songs it was a pitiful experience. I'm not going to feed them again.
I saw them headline a tent at Graspop last year and they blew the fucking roof off. 10/10 gig
Fuck didn't realise the €72 tickets were the cheap seats... That price was a push for me but the price for standing is fucking excessive!
Everything marketed towards the well off and the fanboys these days. Depressing.
I'd imagine the upper tier is gonna be curtained off anyway so even the cheapest seats tomorrow will be probably still be decent.
Caught Testament recently wasn't billed they were doing it but set was solely from first 2 albums only. Personally I don't mind a repeat of such, on fire!
Are Anthrax closing the night here for certain? Clearly Anthrax are bigger in the UK but here that's easily up in the air here they didn't pack the Academy for their best album in full and they've (only?) been back as a common tag team partner to Slayer since.
Would imagine we are gonna get same running order as the UK.
Could probably make the same argument about the Machine Head/Amon Amarth co-headline that came here and we got the UK running order.
Would also imagine Anthrax will give us the same set they've given us every time they play here. Morons.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on August 23, 2024, 08:08:23 AMWould also imagine Anthrax will give us the same set they've given us every time they play here. Morons.
Aye, would love to go simply just to see Testament do the early stuff, but no interest in another Anthrax retread through Among the Living's greatest hitsc and their tired cover tunes. Seen countless Anthrax gigs over the last 15-20 odd years, multiple line-ups (Spitz, Vera, Dette, Caggiano, Donais) and the one constant being the same old shite they always play.
The John Bush gigs of the early 2000s are the only ones i really remember fondly.
100% Agree. Any other time has been a let down.
The gigs with Bush were the only ones where you got a complete spread across the catalogue for the setlist.
Quote from: Deranged Bear! on January 24, 2024, 08:49:31 PMFuck didn't realise the €72 tickets were the cheap seats... That price was a push for me but the price for standing is fucking excessive!
Everything marketed towards the well off and the fanboys these days. Depressing.
The dynamic pricing bullshit has the tickets at €78 now for the exact same gig in the exact same areas of standing and seats. Might be warranted if they got Bush in for a changed set though :)
Resale standing ticket there for €68 at the moment. I'd nearly be tempted but fuck the hotel prices.
Nice one, I just picked that up for €82 after collateral damage.
Mail gone to ya on a very cheap accommodation option.
I take it this won't sell out .
debating bringing the young lad
Not a hope of it selling out
Picked up a resale one there for €70!
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on August 23, 2024, 08:08:23 AMWould also imagine Anthrax will give us the same set they've given us every time they play here. Morons.
They won't even play one of their best songs because Belladona is still salty.
For shame, but which track are you referring to?
So dream tracks if Anthrax actually shook things up a bit?
Bring The Noise
The one and only... Only!
QuoteSo dream tracks if Anthrax actually shook things up a bit
From Bush's era off the top of my head
Potters Field
Room For One More
1000 Points Of Hate
Black Lodge
Random Acts of Senseless Violence
What Doesn't Die
But the Belladonna era is woefully underrepresented too, If Joey is sticking to stuff he sang with the band originally then play more stuff from Persistence and give us a deep cut from the other records. Drop the stupid covers.
The covers are pretty essential live if you ask me!.
Not in a 7 song support slot, like at the Slayer show a few years ago. Inexcusable.
QuoteThe covers are pretty essential live if you ask me!.
Feck off. Got the time essential? Whatever about Antisocial but Got the Time at the expense of anything else from them is inexcusable.
Just snagged two standing tickets to this. I'm purely going for the mighty Testament ( I could watch Skolnick play all day) and Kreator.
I really have never been all too arsed with Anthrax. Maybe Joey will be chucking cans of Monster into the crowd again. ;D
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on September 04, 2024, 12:57:20 PMQuoteThe covers are pretty essential live if you ask me!.
Feck off. Got the time essential? Whatever about Antisocial but Got the Time at the expense of anything else from them is inexcusable.
Not for me,id be disappointed if they didn't play it!
It's awful, the only low point on Persistence Of Time. Antisocial can fuck off too. With all the vastly superior original material they have, playing one cover live is bed enough, let alone two.
May be so,but in a live arena huge numbers would be lapping up those covers over 90s era Bush material!.
Most of the Bush material is shite alright but there's a few decent songs sprinkled across the albums.
I love the Bush albums, but I've accepted they'll never do anything from them live again
I'd just be happy for something that isn't 85% Among the Living, the few covers, and the mandatory song from the last album
Forget the Bush / Belladonna stuff. They could play Only, Gung Ho, Lone Justice, Medusa etc etc
RANDOM ACTS OF SENSELESS VIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOLENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCE!
Fucking tune, you lunatics.
Just compare that Ambassador set to what they do now. The John Bush fronted Anthrax gave everyone something they wanted
What Doesn't Die
Superhero
Got the Time
Caught in a Mosh
Safe Home
In My World
Inside Out
Fueled
Antisocial
1000 Points of Hate
Black Lodge
Efilnikufesin (N.F.L.)
Only
Encore:
Metal Thrashing Mad
Bring the Noise / I'm the Man
Gung-Ho
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on September 05, 2024, 07:58:37 AMJust compare that Ambassador set to what they do now. The John Bush fronted Anthrax gave everyone something they wanted
What Doesn't Die
Superhero
Got the Time
Caught in a Mosh
Safe Home
In My World
Inside Out
Fueled
Antisocial
1000 Points of Hate
Black Lodge
Efilnikufesin (N.F.L.)
Only
Encore:
Metal Thrashing Mad
Bring the Noise / I'm the Man
Gung-Ho
Deadly.
Forgot I was at the show the following year that was woefully underattended and some other gems were subbed into the set
Keep It in the Family
Refuse to Be Denied
Indians
Room for One More
Deathrider
Metal Thrashing Mad
Whiplash
(Metallica cover)
John Bush has to be one of the worst vocalists in metal
Quote from: londonleatherboy on September 05, 2024, 05:33:46 PMJohn Bush has to be one of the worst vocalists in metal
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I thought he was better than Belladonna TBH, but they didn't have the songs on hus albums. Haven't heard much Armoured Saint so can't really comment on that.
I checked out recent Anthrax setlists and not bad actually
Ticket got .
Can't stand anthrax .long time since I've seen kreator or testament .
Young lad will enjoy it though I hope
A week to go! Great seeing this come to Dublin. Any confirmation who headlines?
Anthrax. From DME's Facebook:
QuoteTimes (subject to change):
Doors 17:30
Testament 18:30
Kreator 20:00
Anthrax 21:45
Premier Inn around the corner is only €65 a night, I'd nearly be tempted. But no.
Great to have the stage times - thanks. An early start so ...
Nice one for the stage times.
Starting the stereo rotation today with Live Kreation on the go so tis time to start getting hyped :D
Looks like Testament getting a full hour, awesome.
Seems testament are adding newer material back into the setlist. I caught them in the summer and it was exclusively material from the first two albums.
Ya I did too and fancied another round of that but if the FOD title track makes the cut we'll leave them off.
Edit
Just back from Wolverhampton show, absolutely top notch, was a bit worried for anthrax after the stunning kreator show, but they were brilliant. All 3 bands, great shows. A lot of young uns there too, loving life, thrash having an upsurge? Scottish/ English gigs are just so much better vibes than Dublin, before, during and after metal gigs.
That anthrax set is horseshit
What time will this be over at ?
Want to book parking ticket
Good to hear Blitzer. Also, few cheapy tickets on TM at the moment. €50-55 in case anyone going last minute.
If be tempted to go see them again at that price, but stay out of the pit this time, not clever for a 50 year old
Quote from: Shitstirrer on November 24, 2024, 11:51:48 AMWhat time will this be over at ?
Want to book parking ticket
10.30 I'd say
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on November 24, 2024, 11:31:24 AMThat anthrax set is horseshit
They desperately need to start changing things up, I can understand not doing the Bush stuff, but why is Persistence of Time always ignored?
Must be very boring for themselves
What's the chance of buying a ticket at the venue tomorrow ?
I know 3 arena has a box office and the event is not sold out but would they have tickets for sale ?
I'd buy one online but I'm not a real human since I don't own a smart phone.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on November 24, 2024, 09:55:38 PMMust be very boring for themselves
Sure they're all nearly OAPs. Bello's 59, the guitarist lad's in his 40s, the rest are in their 60s so probably aren't able to remember more than a few songs.
I was tempted to pick up a cheap ticket until I looked at their setlist - plenty of great old stuff but I'm not going to pay to hear Got The Time and Antisocial again.
It's worth the price for testament and kreator alone
I've 2 tickets listed on TM for gig at €50 ea, can't make it
Quote from: Blitzer666 on November 25, 2024, 07:57:33 AMIt's worth the price for testament and kreator alone
If they both headlined, maybe.
Testament got fucking shafted for sound quality when they supported Judas Priest in the same venue in '09. First time seeing them and could barely hear Skolnick's guitar.
Here's hoping that doesn't happen tonight!
To be fair, any supports I've seen there in recent years had decent sound. I thought all bands at the Slayer Farewell gig sounded great.
Curious to see the numbers all the same.
Quite amusing who gets a cheer , who gets a booooo and who gets a meh on the anthrax intro video......
Obviously Corey Taylor is in it
Came in late, so I missed Testament, but Kreator were beastly. I'm up in the balcony, but it looks like a serious crowd.
I wonder how much the place holds with the upper tier curtained off. I'm guessing 5k, at least.
Class performances from Testament and Kreator. Testament sounded good but I thought the sound for Kreator was a bit better.
Alex Skolnick though, surely one of metal's all time best lead guitarists? Melody, phrasing, tone, technicality and speed. That was my 6th time seeing them and probably the most impressed I've been by him. To be fair, it's also probably the most sober I've been when seeing him too :laugh:
A fair bit of newer material in the set, but it sounded great. They played Return to Serenity, which I've never seen them play live before and it was amazing.
Kreator were just fucking lethal, great stage show, very aggressive lights.
Watched about 4 Anthrax songs and left early to get a bus. They were good but I'm just not really into them and they certainly weren't going to top what just went down. I thought that promo video before their set was a bit weird, just felt a bit insecure or something.
Saw a few younger looking people in their late teens in high vis (security!?) getting stuck into some moshing, great to see!
Some unlucky fucker got badly hurt during Testament, seen security trying to escort him away, the poor cunt looked rattled and could barely walk, he ended up being taken away in a wheelchair. Didn't seem to have any friends with him at the time, I hope he's ok.
Awesome show, still trying to figure out what I liked best, certainly no disappointments there, except maybe sound quality here and there (mainly with Testament)...two tough gigs for Anthrax to follow, though I thought they were great...felt the crowd was getting a tad tired towards the end, not surprising after the brutal metal storm we had just endured...and I've just never been a fan of those childish cliché plastic devils Kreator seem to be so fond of, though these are just a detail...and yes, as someone else has already pointed out, that intro clip for Anthrax was a tad weird, somehow very 'un-metal', if that means anything...hope no-one got hurt in all the circle pits and walls of death they had going tonight...a decent crowd, too...anyone got the bands' set lists?
The intro video anthrax had was the most cringe metal moment I have ever witnessed live .
The are not my cup of tea anyway ,totally overated band .
Kreator were band of the night for me and testament were decent but that ballad was a bit shite and didn't really fit well .
Decent gig
Great night,throughly enjoyed all 3 bands!,Kreators stage show was class!,been 19 years since I last saw them!.That was my first time seeing Testament,(I'm not sure how ive managed that),brilliant stuff!.Im a big Anthrax fan so I was well happy with their performance.
There was a great buzz ,a good mix of young and old heads!
It's weird how things turn in the metal world;if someone said to you 20 years ago that those bands would pull a crowd like that in the 3Arena you'd have laughed at them.
I liked the intro video! Reminds me of the stuff Metallica used to play before their gigs. Seeing the crowd reaction to the different musicians and celebrities wad entertaining.
Anthrax came off as a headliner at first, but their set starting to get tired legs in the second half.
The sound was the best I've heard in the 3Arena (perhaps anywhere). Maybe it has something to do with my seat being in the balcony area.
Quotecrowd like that in the 3Arena you'd have laughed at them.
What'd it do in the end? Looked like there was huge sections curtained off?
Quoteanyone got the bands' set lists?
You don't need Anthrax's - just any set of theirs from the last 20 years.
It was an awesome show with great production. Only way we in Ireland can get that full European Kreator headline production and seeing Testament do Return to Sanity was a treat.
I love these big package tours like the Megadeth, Slayer, Priest ones that have come through over the years.
I thought the floor seemed quite busy. Presume it did well enough to justify putting on seeing as this tour only hit the Apollo in London and Manchester anyway. Hopefully there's more to come.
And for old buggers like me, the sets were perfect length
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on November 26, 2024, 07:02:25 AMQuotecrowd like that in the 3Arena you'd have laughed at them.
What'd it do in the end? Looked like there was huge sections curtained off?
Quoteanyone got the bands' set lists?
You don't need Anthrax's - just any set of theirs from the last 20 years.
Would there have been 5k there?
Great gig all round.
Kreator were epic. Felt like they were headlining.
I really feel Testament get short shrift. With the talent they have in the current lineup, better sound could have made them band of the night for me.
Really enjoyable night. First time seeing Kreator. Band of the night for me - even if the lads with the masks and torches reminded me of the ad for curry chips "Ah, Mary, we have the hall booked till 9". Anthrax intro vid would have been fine if slimmed down to 30 seconds or so. Cartoon bit was fun though. Joey in great form I thought. Toms of energy. Great seeing DME/MCD booking gigs like this.
Anthrax would probably be better off going on 2nd,that Kreator show is hard to follow!.And I'm not a huge Kreator fan!.
Edit The Cartoon bit was class in the Anthrax intro.
Had to miss this after a last minute change to work shifts, but great to hear all the good reports, hopefully it can draw a few similar tours over here
What was the story with the Anthrax video though? Anyone got a link to it?
I did enjoy that cartoon part (was that Machine Gun Kelly that got decapitated?), and it was fun to see who got the biggest cheer (Phil Anselmo?).
The talking heads part just seemed like some validating shite that went on far too long, different voices saying Anthrax Anthrax Anthrax Anthrax Anthrax Anthrax which cresendo'd into a massive visual cue 'CHEER FOR US' on the big screen.
I'm sure lots of people enjoy that kind of goofy humor, I just found it pretty lame in the moment and very cringey.
But then again, I enjoy Limp Bizkit so who fucking cares :laugh:
Somebody uploaded the cartoon part on youtube:
And here's the first part of the celebrity bit. I actually missed the start of it and didn't realise Lady Gaga was in it:
Steven king in a Kamala Harris shirt, wise up, Corey Taylor and that nob tom morello got booooo'd, gaga got a groan, Keanu was pretty cool.....
But anyways what about Alex Skolnick, legend or what! He stole the show for me, even though they didn't avail of the best sound of the evening.
Quote from: Giggles on November 26, 2024, 01:30:56 PMAnd here's the first part of the celebrity bit. I actually missed the start of it and didn't realise Lady Gaga was in it:
The fucking state of that! :laugh:
I could maybe understand if it was some sort of special anniversary show or something along those lines, even then it'd still be pretty bad
Are they going 40 years?,was that what it was for?.
Quote from: Paul keohane on November 26, 2024, 08:43:48 PMAre they going 40 years?,was that what it was for?.
About 42 years or so. Imagine this was a cut and paste job from their 'XL40' videos and documentary they put out during Covid.
A pretty savage gig overall. Kreator absolutely stole the show with a vicious performance and an amazing stage set-up. I'm not a big Anthrax fan but enjoyed their set overall.
I was mainly going for Testament but missed their first two songs due to a Luas diversion and one particularly gormless, slow as fuck frisker. They really did get a raw deal sound wise and for a band of their calibre it's disappointing. Alex Skolnick was shredding away at one point and I couldn't hear a single note.
One thing I'm really getting annoyed with at gigs is bands playing snippets of songs or cutting songs short. Kreator launched into the Coma of Souls title track, much to my utter delight, but then only played the intro of it before leading into Enemy of God. Anthrax played about 3/4 of A.I.R and cut it short before the best part of the bloody song! ;D
I'm pretty sure I was the only one there just to see Anthrax!😅
Testament gave a great performance, but the guitars lacked punch IMO. Also, is it just me, or does Steve DiGiorgio's bass often overpower things? Same here, very high in the mix, clacky, and buzzy. The man is a legend, but I still reckon Greg Christian was infinitely better suited to the band.
I'n not a huge fan of Kreator post 90 to be honest, but they were fucking savage. Immense performance, especially Ventor and Sami Yli-Sirniö. For all of the intensity and satanic imagery, the thing that strikes me about Kreator these days is just how bombastic they are. The image says Watain, but the vibe is just as much Blind Guardian - Celebratory, fist pumping, anthemic stadium and festival fodder. Excellently delivered mind you, and highly enjoyable, but a far cry from the bestial thrash they originally became known for. Tellingly, Betrayer, Terrible Certainly and Pleasure To Kill were the highlights for me.
Anthrax were fucking brilliant. Thoroughly predictable setlist, but when the tunes are that good it doesn't really matter that much does it? Funnily enough, even though they began with 3 stone cold classics in A.I.R., Got The Time and Caught In A Mosh, for me, it really kicked into gear with Fight Em Til You Can't. The start of 'Be All, End All' is always mighty. Nice touch with the Lizzy intro to Indians too, and Gung Ho is one of the best thrash tunes of all time.
My only gripe is Jon Donais. The guy can obviously play, but he just widdles aimlessly through the Dan Spitz solos, which really fucking grates on me. Especially as Spitz solos were always of the "song within a song" variety, and really lifted every tune, they are as much a part of those classic tracks as the riffs and choruses. Donais doesn't bother his hole even sticking to the main melodies and then adding his own touches, he just blazes through generic speed licks. Why the fuck don't Benante and Ian take him to task for that shit?
It didn't ruin my overall enjoyment of the show, but it is fucking aggravating.
Full sets, quality's a bit dodgy:
Testament:
Kreator:
Anthrax:
That intro video's fairly cringeworthy.
Quote from: Necrohag on November 27, 2024, 01:26:15 PMAlex Skolnick was shredding away at one point and I couldn't hear a single note.
That was driving me mental. I was right up front on Skolnick's side and watching his fingers flying but not hearing it >:(
I wass in the middle, about 15 people from the front and could hear Skolnick fine, but it definitely should have been louder. There's was a noticeably better improvement for Kreator's guitars.
The overall sound for Kreator was incredible, especially the guitars. Rhythm and lead tones on point, perfect mix etc. I was so impressed with Sami Yli-Sirniö. I knew he could play, but he has a really great mix of classic hard rock and modern metal styles. Very fluid. Great interplay between him and Mille.
I could hear Skolnick, but yeah, it could have been louder. For me the rhythm guitars were the issue. Very muddy. And add that to the buzzy, overly loud and distorted bass, it really robbed them of their usual power.
Quote from: Carnage on November 27, 2024, 10:31:10 PMThat intro video's fairly cringeworthy.
Yeah. It's one thing on the actual anniversary tour, but why keep using it?
All it did for me was confirm how fucking annoying Tom 'cringy soundbite' Morello and the wonky headed fucker from Slipknot are. They could easily make another intro video with bits and pieces of their history without all the celebrity endorsements and smug circle jerk BS.
There seems to be a lot of hate for Tom Morello,what's that about? :laugh: . (I genuinely know nothing about the guy other than he was in RATM and Audioslave)
Quote from: Paul keohane on November 27, 2024, 03:59:18 PMI'm pretty sure I was the only one there just to see Anthrax!😅
:laugh:
Quote from: Paul keohane on November 29, 2024, 08:05:19 AMThere seems to be a lot of hate for Tom Morello,what's that about? :laugh: . (I genuinely know nothing about the guy other than he was in RATM and Audioslave)
Some folks can't stand him for either his politics, his placing as a guitar hero or he's taken the place of Dee "I stood up to the pmrc" Snider when asked to give his opinion on metal for the normies.
I think his rewriting of history annoys people too. He claims that he never had a guitar lesson in his life, but Michael Angelo Batio was teaching him for ages. There's even a video of an early Rage show with Morello doing the over/under hand technique. Why lie about that stuff and not give MAB the credit?
I couldn't care an iota about Tom Morello, but a quick Google shows that MAB story is nonsense.
Quote from: Squigs on November 29, 2024, 03:09:33 PMI couldn't care an iota about Tom Morello, but a quick Google shows that MAB story is nonsense.
He's definitely mentioned Batio as teaching him how to shred when he was a young fella.
Quote from: Squigs on November 29, 2024, 03:09:33 PMI couldn't care an iota about Tom Morello, but a quick Google shows that MAB story is nonsense.
Got it slightly wrong, he said he had one lesson with him. Theres also this video of him doing MABs signature technique which I sincerely doubt he learned in a single lesson
https://youtu.be/xk02MEkXYwU?si=-PND8-mRH7qrPvIc
Lads, you don't need lessons from MAB to do that over/under thing, and it has probably been attempted by most lead guitarists who have seen it.
Quote from: Paul keohane on November 29, 2024, 08:05:19 AMThere seems to be a lot of hate for Tom Morello,what's that about? :laugh: . (I genuinely know nothing about the guy other than he was in RATM and Audioslave)
Everything he says about other bands sounds like something that came from a PR company. Even his KISS induction from the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame was embarrassingly hyperbolic and cliched to the point it makes Paul Stanley's stage raps look reserved and profound. And I say that as a huge KISS mark.
And that whole thing where he tried to smear a restaurant as "anti worker" when he couldn't get in - and get a special room for him and his crew no less - revealed what an entitled tosser he is. Just another rock star douchebag, who loves the whole celebrity status thing, despite his "workers of the world unite" posturing.
He smacks of self importance and insincerity IMO, and he is the very definition of cringeworthy.
Plus he looks like a cunt.
Oh, and his music is largely a load of old bollocks. So there is that.
Rage have zero credentials. Love the records for sure, they are a good band if of their time but we're all grown up now you can drop the shtick
Seen them in the 3 arena around 2010 - great show but they lost me when they said we "the working class" have to unite against the rich. They were rumoured to be getting half a million for that show, that's without a t shirt sale.
I saw them in Feile 94, that's a bit mad isn't it Ted
Quote from: Don Gately on December 01, 2024, 11:32:58 AMI saw them in Feile 94, that's a bit mad isn't it Ted
Same! And they were fantastic!
But as said previously... Of their time.
They've been peddling their glory days for far too long now.
Make some new music to see if they've still got what it takes.
Either put up, or shut up.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on November 30, 2024, 11:17:49 AMRage have zero credentials. Love the records for sure, they are a good band if of their time but we're all grown up now you can drop the shtick
Seen them in the 3 arena around 2010 - great show but they lost me when they said we "the working class" have to unite against the rich. They were rumoured to be getting half a million for that show, that's without a t shirt sale.
Was mad about them as a kid but they are a laughable bunch of hypocrites. Tickets were 60e and shirts about 35e while he spouts about conglomerates. Shut up. The gig was great though 😄
Ahh its no different to bands singing about being in league with the devil and still goin to mass...or something.
Saw them in the Tivoli in 93, I think it was. Their t-shirts were notably more expensive than average back then, too, the hoors :laugh:
"Fuck them they won't do what they're telling me! Fuck them they won't do what they're telling me!"
Did Rage against the machine support Anthrax the other night , what's going on
Quote from: Don Gately on December 03, 2024, 12:48:31 PMDid Rage against the machine support Anthrax the other night , what's going on
Just a slight threadjacking😂
Move along, nothing to see.
Would be class if Testament played another headliner here
Have Testament ever done a headline slot? Saw them as support a few times but can't remember them doing their own show
Saw them headline with Vader and Annihilator a few years back, also think they headlined the gig with Exodus and Death Angel just before covid but wasn't at it.
Wasn't there a big one with Carcass and Amon Amarth, or am I making that up. Just before covid again?
Quote from: ldj on December 03, 2024, 06:43:24 PMSaw them headline with Vader and Annihilator a few years back, also think they headlined the gig with Exodus and Death Angel just before covid but wasn't at it.
Yep. I thought that they were great at both gigs
Quote from: Carnage on December 03, 2024, 09:16:29 PMWasn't there a big one with Carcass and Amon Amarth, or am I making that up. Just before covid again?
They played with Amon Amarth, 8 years ago!
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2018 and 2020 were headline shows, last gig before that was Priest Feast in 2009.
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No, Tom Morello was in the intro clip for a second.
Speaking of hoors We haven't even started on Corey Taylor.
Jesus I've no memory of the 2016 and 2018 shows being advertised. Was the old forum gone by then maybe?
I was at the show with Exodus support, last metal gig before covid, that was class.
Remember the national stadium one now that I see it, had to sell my ticket for some reason but that was a great lineup
No recall of the show with Annihilator though. Ah well, new album supposed to be out next year so hopefully they'll make it back over
Quote from: The Great Cull on December 04, 2024, 08:12:56 AMJesus I've no memory of the 2016 and 2018 shows being advertised. Was the old forum gone by then maybe?
I think the old forum was closed down around October 2018.