Thread for all those single reply things that clog up the site all the time. Not particular bands being promoted etc but when there's a random thought that doesn't deserve a thread.
I'll start,
It's equally brilliant and absolutely fucking mock when the vocalist does the in between song banter in character.
Eg some of my favourite ever metal moments involve this very thing but when I get down to thinking of it, it's fairly shit in terms of authenticity.
Anyway, over to the rest of ye lads
Much as they suck balls, and have done for over 30 years, I'd take the money and replace Trujillo in a fucken heartbeat.
No band has yet filled the void that Type O Negative has left..
Quote from: The Heretic on November 20, 2023, 09:27:55 PMNo band has yet filled the void that Type O Negative has left..
How could they? Pete Steele is one of a kind, and that has been illustrated by the couple of Type O off-shoots that have emerged since his death. It would be cool too see the lads do something gloomy together without trying to recapture the Type O buzz. A tall order I suppose seeing as Hickey and Silver were also integral to the overall sound.
It must be incredibly sad for folks like Slash, Kerry King, Zakk Wylde etc who have evolved into walking caricatures of themselves. Surely they must at some stage want to tell the world to fuck off that they want to have a shave, lose the trademark image and do something different... although most of those lads come across as mongos so perhaps they don't see it that way.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 20, 2023, 09:35:03 PMQuote from: The Heretic on November 20, 2023, 09:27:55 PMNo band has yet filled the void that Type O Negative has left..
How could they? Pete Steele is one of a kind, and that had been illustrated by the couple of Type O off-shoots that have emerged since his death. It would be cool too see the lads do something gloomy together without trying to recapture the Type O buzz. A tall order I suppose seeing as Hikey and Silver were also integral to the overall sound.
Be sure not to include Johnny Kelly in that one or Sal Abruscato will leave a horses head in your bed!
Quote from: astfgyl on November 20, 2023, 07:52:34 PMIt's equally brilliant and absolutely fucking mock when the vocalist does the in between song banter in character.
Death metal vocalists itnroducing the songs in their DM voice, that kinda thing? Almost as bad as Robb Flynn's onstage 'banter'.
Quote from: The Great Cull on November 20, 2023, 09:39:53 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on November 20, 2023, 09:35:03 PMQuote from: The Heretic on November 20, 2023, 09:27:55 PMNo band has yet filled the void that Type O Negative has left..
How could they? Pete Steele is one of a kind, and that had been illustrated by the couple of Type O off-shoots that have emerged since his death. It would be cool too see the lads do something gloomy together without trying to recapture the Type O buzz. A tall order I suppose seeing as Hikey and Silver were also integral to the overall sound.
Be sure not to include Johnny Kelly in that one or Sal Abruscato will leave a horses head in your bed!
The drum machine was implied.
Quote from: The Heretic on November 20, 2023, 09:27:55 PMNo band has yet filled the void that Type O Negative has left..
It'll never happen outside of ai having a go at it. There just can't be anything like it
Quote from: Bürggermeister on November 20, 2023, 08:17:22 PMMuch as they suck balls, and have done for over 30 years, I'd take the money and replace Trujillo in a fucken heartbeat.
I'd play the triangle for the cunts if it was going
Quote from: Carnage on November 20, 2023, 10:13:23 PMQuote from: astfgyl on November 20, 2023, 07:52:34 PMIt's equally brilliant and absolutely fucking mock when the vocalist does the in between song banter in character.
Death metal vocalists itnroducing the songs in their DM voice, that kinda thing? Almost as bad as Robb Flynn's onstage 'banter'.
That's the one, but every now and again you'll have a lad calling out an intro to something in their regular voice and then screaming out the last word or two and it goes great.
And then there's the My Dying Bride live from eindhoven version as found on the bonus tracks on The Angel And The Dark River CD, which is fucking hilarious
Quote from: The Great Cull on November 20, 2023, 09:37:11 PMIt must be incredibly sad for folks like Slash, Kerry King, Zakk Wylde etc who have evolved into walking caricatures of themselves. Surely they must at some stage want to tell the world to fuck off that they want to have a shave, lose the trademark image and do something different... although most of those lads come across as mongos so perhaps they don't see it that way.
I doubt King has the self-awareness. He probably goes to bed with more chains than Mr. T.
Like Layne and Jerry?
Quote from: astfgyl on November 20, 2023, 07:52:34 PMThread for all those single reply things that clog up the site all the time. Not particular bands being promoted etc but when there's a random thought that doesn't deserve a thread.
I'll start,
It's equally brilliant and absolutely fucking mock when the vocalist does the in between song banter in character.
Eg some of my favourite ever metal moments involve this very thing but when I get down to thinking of it, it's fairly shit in terms of authenticity.
Anyway, over to the rest of ye lads
I agree, the likes of Cannibal Corpse is both cringe and entertaining at the same time. I wouldn't change a thing ha ha ha
Mille Petrozza screeching between songs isn't as much craic as it used to be.
How do bands with day jobs organise extensive tours?
Quote from: Necro Red on November 21, 2023, 11:15:26 AMQuote from: astfgyl on November 20, 2023, 07:52:34 PMThread for all those single reply things that clog up the site all the time. Not particular bands being promoted etc but when there's a random thought that doesn't deserve a thread.
I'll start,
It's equally brilliant and absolutely fucking mock when the vocalist does the in between song banter in character.
Eg some of my favourite ever metal moments involve this very thing but when I get down to thinking of it, it's fairly shit in terms of authenticity.
Anyway, over to the rest of ye lads
I agree, the likes of Cannibal Corpse is both cringe and entertaining at the same time. I wouldn't change a thing ha ha ha
There is a nice space somewhere between being in character like this or being someone like Tim Sult from Clutch who generally performs looking at his feet while trying to remember if he left the immersion on or not.
Quote from: hellfire on November 21, 2023, 01:23:17 PMHow do bands with day jobs organise extensive tours?
With either lenient jobs or great difficulty. I assume in most cases they are taking unpaid leave or all their holidays in one run. Assuming they keep the same job for a long time that is.
Sort of related but I remember seeing the Isis DVD years ago and one section had the lads talking about doing all these decent tours and festivals in the EU etc, but nobody realises they still go home afterwards and work stacking shelves in a shop. I was about 19 seeing this and it shocked me that they weren't sustaining themselves off the band.
Yeah, I feel a bit sorry for mid level bands at the moment. The money isn't what it used to be. A band the size of Primordial would have earned enough to keep themselves if it was 1995.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on November 21, 2023, 01:14:52 PMMille Petrozza screeching between songs isn't as much craic as it used to be.
Just once, I'd love to see a Kreator show, where a song ends, and then they just launch into Flag of Hate, instead of Mille taking ten minutes to screech nothing but "It's time to raise the flag of... louder" over and over.
Is the metal scene/fans here in Ireland ageing? Just an observation from the shows I've been to the last few years.
Quote from: Necro Red on November 21, 2023, 04:24:22 PMIs the metal scene/fans here in Ireland ageing? Just an observation from the shows I've been to the last few years.
Yes, definitely. Many reasons why but a major one is that I wouldn't be found at the gigs the young lads go to, as much as they won't be found at the likes of Emperor or Swans or Godflesh. I was talking to a lad who went to Atreyu last week and they're not even that new but he's a decade younger than me and it just wouldn't be on my radar at all
Depends on the gig.Lot of young people at the Eyehategod gig in Dublin which surprised me.
Don't get to many gigs these days, but Municipal Waste was the last one and there was a fairly sizeable young crowd at it, was great to see while I stood at the back with a pint and aching joints
Quote from: jpm4 on November 21, 2023, 06:34:22 PMDepends on the gig.Lot of young people at the Eyehategod gig in Dublin which surprised me.
That is surprising tbh. Where did they even hear of them considering they've been fairly underground forever?
We're in late November, and I think Gene Hoglan has actually managed to avoid saying "We're looking to release the new Dark Angel album next year" at all this year. :laugh:
Quote from: astfgyl on November 21, 2023, 09:11:44 PMQuote from: jpm4 on November 21, 2023, 06:34:22 PMDepends on the gig.Lot of young people at the Eyehategod gig in Dublin which surprised me.
That is surprising tbh. Where did they even hear of them considering they've been fairly underground forever?
surprised me.
Dunno, maybe the support bands brought them out.
Quote from: astfgyl on November 21, 2023, 09:11:44 PMQuote from: jpm4 on November 21, 2023, 06:34:22 PMDepends on the gig.Lot of young people at the Eyehategod gig in Dublin which surprised me.
That is surprising tbh. Where did they even hear of them considering they've been fairly underground forever?
One theory might be that Anselmo was wearing their shirts in an awful lot of Pantera photos.
That was back in the 90s so more influential on our generation, no?
Certainly with DM gigs here ,the crowd seem to be mostly 30s/40s.
But in general,(in Cork anyway) the number of younger metal heads strolling around seems be be less and less.
Now,I do think lots of people are into metal,but dont look/dress like out and out metal heads.
Why don't more doom bands throw in the odd blast beat like Disembowelment to stop me from nodding off?
Check out Spectral Voice and Indessinence. Many newer bands are at it too but seem to bring almost nothing original to the table unfortunately.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 22, 2023, 10:09:53 AMCheck out Spectral Voice and Indessinence. Many newer bands are at it too but seem to bring almost nothing original to the table unfortunately.
Cheers, I'll give them a listen.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 22, 2023, 07:14:58 AMThat was back in the 90s so more influential on our generation, no?
Pantera are still pretty big now and most of their pictures together were taken in the 90s. It really is only a thought. I have no idea what young people are up to at all.
When the new Pantera album coming out..... random thought.....
Quote from: KingHostile on November 22, 2023, 11:45:47 AMWhen the new Pantera album coming out..... random thought.....
Hopefully never.
:abbath: :abbath: :) :) :)
Every now and again I think about the fuckin state of Nick Holmes' vocals on that PL song "Perfect Mask". No idea what possessed the lad to do Jonathan Davis vocals for the whole thing but it's brutal.
I haven't heard that one. May give it a listen later :laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 23, 2023, 07:58:18 AMI haven't heard that one. May give it a listen later :laugh:
Do. Once you think about Korn while listening to it, it's ruined forever. Not exactly a highlight of their career either way :laugh:
It really was a very starenge time for them.
Has aged so, sooooo badly!
Who the fuck came up with the idea of replacing John Christ with Tommy Victor?
The bands of the 70s and 80s were lucky to have gone through the whole sex, drugs and rock and roll experience. They must look at the current scene and count their blessings...
Haha yeah, first time ogling a chick and the band have to disband, groveling in shame :laugh:
If all the Hardcore lads have to show respect to get respect, then are they all still waiting in a respectless world for someone to show respect or has someone deviated from the status quo and shown respect without first receiving it, creating an environment of mutual respect and, if so, who was this renegade?
Interesting paradox indeed. Who came first, the respected or the respectee. And if a respected falls in the forest and there is no respectee there to grant respect, did the karate kick even happen?
Happy International Megadeth Day to all those who celebrate! :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-qQH90-nuY
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 24, 2023, 07:50:51 AMHaha yeah, first time ogling a chick and the band have to disband, groveling in shame :laugh:
Was a band ogling women? I'm
Quote from: jobrok1 on November 23, 2023, 08:55:44 AMIt really was a very starenge time for them.
Has aged so, sooooo badly!
I can't listen to anything between 1997 and 2014. I'm not able to, my mind suffers too intensely.
Can't be arsed fixing quotes
Quote from: hellfire on November 24, 2023, 10:47:26 AMI can't listen to anything between 1997 and 2014. I'm not able to, my mind suffers too intensely.
I do have a soft spot for One Second.
I was fully behind that direction when they released it.
Then.... Host :-X
One Second doesn't make me want to puncture my own ear drums in the same way as what followed it. Inexcusable muck.
I loved Host when it came out but it aged really badly and I never throw it on now. One Second is a lot better.
Actually other than The Plague Within I've no interest in anything after One Second.
I've come to the conclusion that Ozzy Osbourne is full of shite and has a sense of entitlement, its not one thing in particular, just everything over the last 30 years..
I'd say that's the general consensus TBH.
I'm glad to hear that, I've been on the fence for quite a while now regarding Ozzy, giving him some slack for his years on the booze, fried brain etc. I think Sharon gets blamed for causing shite from his camp..but no..Ozzy is up his own hole as well..see his latest whinging comments regarding Geezer Butler not calling him...ffsakes man grow the fuck up..
I'm probably in danger of excommunication for putting up Xmas decorations while listening to Necros Christos. From both sides .
On that note, I've always thought "Dashing through the snow on a one horse open sleigh" could pass for lyrics from an Immortal song
Blasrykh Mighty Jingle Bells
Quote from: Pentagrimes on November 25, 2023, 08:43:14 PMOn that note, I've always thought "Dashing through the snow on a one horse open sleigh" could pass for lyrics from an Immortal song
:laugh:
Dunno where else to put this but I was in golden discs earlier and happened upon the In Utero 30th double CD. 18 euro, grand says I then I looked at the back and there's none of the bonus tracks on the album and I says fuck that what a bummer
What's on disc 2?
Quote from: Pentagrimes on November 25, 2023, 08:43:14 PMOn that note, I've always thought "Dashing through the snow on a one horse open sleigh" could pass for lyrics from an Immortal song
:laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Carnage on November 26, 2023, 03:12:29 AMWhat's on disc 2?
Live stuff. Now to be fair the live stuff sounds unbelievably good but fuck that without the bonus tracks
I was listening to a lot of Pink Floyd over the past few weeks and it struck me just how big their influence is on a lot of metal bands. Cult of Luna were the first band that came to mind.
That last one has me thinking about things in a sort of related way.
Why is it that certain softer bands translate so well to the metal heads?
Thinking the likes of The Cure or Pink Floyd or Peter Gabriel I know they're all old men but I'm sure there's more recent ones like that too but ye might get the gist of what I mean?
Is there a structural thing that they go beyond the pop standard or is it a matter of key or timbre or dissonant tendencies in the music? Is it anything at all maybe not tbf.
Depeche Mode is another one and I'm thinking of the Limmy A-HA sketch as well I doubt there'd be the sketch if there wasn't something common about that
Anyway...
Edit: obviously it isn't universal because I was talking to a lad in Dolans a while back and I said to him that the couple of tunes off Paradise Lost One Second weren't the worst and the way he said it was "like fuckin Depeche Mode" the words themselves were as if they were being spat on my feet through gritted teeth it was very impressive. Couldn't argue with passion for metal like that.
I bet even that lad has some band he likes that fits what I'm thinking of though
It might be that even though they fit well into the mainstream end of things, they're all based just outside of it - or at least were before they became more established and establishment. Outsiders who came inside, as it were, but still with a hint of rebellion to them.
More that the mainstream maybe came to then rather than the other way around? The have accessibility without compromising the darkness, atmosphere or creativity whatever it might be.
Quote from: astfgyl on November 27, 2023, 10:20:55 PMI was talking to a lad in Dolans a while back and I said to him that the couple of tunes off Paradise Lost One Second weren't the worst and the way he said it was "like fuckin Depeche Mode"...
I still really like One Second. Think it's very underrated.
Host was their Depeche Mode record. Listened to it a few times, then struggled to even get through a few songs so just stopped trying to force it altogether. Horrible record!
I had the Host (band) album on in the car today. I love it.
Thinking of the slow decline of the big metal bands and the festival announcements - I'm thinking 2030 onward with the increasing digital age we live in - does it lead to a more fragmented music scene across the board - does the underground flourish like it has the past 10 years or so or do we get overwhelmed with numerous small independent artists and just stick to what we grew up listening to with a few listens to random new bands every now and again?
I could see the very depressing scenario where virtual reality becomes a thing and people get tickets to a virtual gig with holograms of Black Sabbath or Metallica lifted from previous audio/video recordings and enhanced with AI...I could also see this being done soon enough in venues where certain seats are allocated to 360 degree cameras and for a slightly cheaper ticket, you can experience the gig/event/match from the comfort of your home. For the generations growing up just gaming in their bedrooms, could be enticing.
I'm also waiting to see music from the upcoming generations become more reflective of societal trends/political global movements and most likely, be absolutely shite :laugh: Or maybe music just gets devalued into oblivion, who knows?!
I think I could just listen to Black Sabbath for the rest of my days and be very happy. Still finding things in those first few albums that make the jaw drop.
Quote from: Don Gately on November 29, 2023, 12:48:08 PMI think I could just listen to Black Sabbath for the rest of my days and be very happy. Still finding things in those first few albums that make the jaw drop.
I feel like that about Nine Inch Nails.
Still hope it doesn't come to that though, in case my taste changes when I'm 60
Curse the Gods by Destruction has possibly the best intro to a song. The slow build up, then four beats on the cymbal into that fucking riff :abbath:
That Nu Metal thing with the head down and the legs kicking out from below the knee. Really highlights the insincerity of it all.
Moves for genres in general. How fucking bum.
I can understand a foot on the monitor or a bit of headbanging. Some of it is indeed involuntary but more of it is as contrived as fuck. Moves for genres. Good Lord.
Thinking about tapping the Vein by Sodom, what a fucking out the gate album to come out with on your 5th album after 10 years in the game, it's essentially a death metal album. Recruiting a 20 year old college student on guitar who had no live experience is mental and I'm not really sure how it came about considering how big Sodom would have been at the time (I should watch lord of depravity) But also this is probably what brought the life into that album. . They fumbled the ball with the follow up, one of the worst guitar tones ever, but tapping the vein is up there with the best they've done, seriously needs a reissue.
Quote from: Mithrandir on December 05, 2023, 06:21:30 AMThinking about tapping the Vein by Sodom, what a fucking out the gate album to come out with on your 5th album after 10 years in the game, it's essentially a death metal album. Recruiting a 20 year old college student on guitar who had no live experience is mental and I'm not really sure how it came about considering how big Sodom would have been at the time (I should watch lord of depravity) But also this is probably what brought the life into that album. . They fumbled the ball with the follow up, one of the worst guitar tones ever, but tapping the vein is up there with the best they've done, seriously needs a reissue.
It's savage and it's got the Smurf off his face on roids on the cover. The riffs are so tight and laser focused. The follow up is crazy heavy as well.
This popped up in my memories,24 years ago today!,still one of my all time favourite gigs!
Quote from: Paul keohane on December 08, 2023, 01:41:45 PMThis popped up in my memories,24 years ago today!,still one of my all time favourite gigs!
A mate of mine died a few days before this and I went on a bit of a vodka "experience" for a few days straight. I lost track of what day it was and forgot to go to this. I drunkenly ended up in Fibbers later on the gig night and was surrounded by people in MA shirts... anyway I ended up talking to a few of them and telling them how I was looking forward to the gig "tomorrow" and they all laughed and one of them (pretty sure it was Paul Kearns) generously gave me a ticket. I thanked him and went on my way waking up the next morning to the delight of people's generosity. It obviously all changed later that day when I realised... :laugh: I'm sure I still have the stub somewhere.
In fairness if some young locked eejit came up to me about a gig like that, I'd probably do the same!
:laugh: fuckin hell!
Why hasn't there been any other gigs in King John's Castle apart from the Behemoth/Amon Amarth show?
Loads of gigs un the castle every year,just that none of them are metal. I remember H at the time saying that the cost for renting the castle was mental
I'd say it's hard to get the names. I mean who would realistically be both small enough and big enough to make it work?
Quote from: astfgyl on December 14, 2023, 08:16:59 PMI'd say it's hard to get the names. I mean who would realistically be both small enough and big enough to make it work?
true, isn't it usually indie bands that play it?
Remember when bonus cds in albums had music videos on them? I used to think that was a class touch as a young lad. All on YouTube now, but sure its still nice to actually have a copy ha ha
If all bands had to break up after their 4th album, the world wouldn't to too much worse off. There'll be a handful of exceptions, yeah, but the vast majority of stuff from album 5 onwards is a pale reflection of what went before. Most bands have said everything they had to say by #4.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 12:15:36 PMIf all bands had to break up after their 4th album, the world wouldn't to too much worse off. There'll be a handful of exceptions, yeah, but the vast majority of stuff from album 5 onwards is a pale reflection of what went before. Most bands have said everything they had to say by #4.
Sepultura?
Edit: I agree though
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 12:15:36 PMIf all bands had to break up after their 4th album, the world wouldn't to too much worse off. There'll be a handful of exceptions, yeah, but the vast majority of stuff from album 5 onwards is a pale reflection of what went before. Most bands have said everything they had to say by #4.
I'd possibly stretch that to 5 or 6 but definitely not beyond that.
Quote from: astfgyl on December 17, 2023, 12:20:49 PMQuote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 12:15:36 PMIf all bands had to break up after their 4th album, the world wouldn't to too much worse off. There'll be a handful of exceptions, yeah, but the vast majority of stuff from album 5 onwards is a pale reflection of what went before. Most bands have said everything they had to say by #4.
Sepultura?
Edit: I agree though
You get Beneath the Remains and Arise, but no Chaos AD, no Roots, that's not so bad. Sure most of yiz fuckers say it's not Sepultura without Max anyway, so we might still get Dante on a technical loophole ;) :laugh:
There are a few bands who did something glorious after #4 but there aren't many :abbath:
Yeah it's a fair point the more I think about it there really are fuck all that did anything useful beyond 4 albums
Is Painkiller the biggest outlier to that theory?
Not saying it's a rule, that there are no great albums after #4 but the longer we move on the more that looks like a mid-career fluke brought about by fresh blood, like a new-manager boost relegation candidates frequently experience in football. See also: The Stench of Redemption 😂
Quote from: The Great Cull on December 17, 2023, 12:27:15 PMQuote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 12:15:36 PMIf all bands had to break up after their 4th album, the world wouldn't to too much worse off. There'll be a handful of exceptions, yeah, but the vast majority of stuff from album 5 onwards is a pale reflection of what went before. Most bands have said everything they had to say by #4.
I'd possibly stretch that to 5 or 6 but definitely not beyond that.
5 makes it too easy. 4 makes it hurt :laugh:
Think of it another way: if you had to choose, are there any bands where you'd lose the first four albums to keep
everything after? Who do you think were stronger after #4 than before?
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 01:54:29 PMNot saying it's a rule, that there are no great albums after #4 but the longer we move on the more that looks like a mid-career fluke brought about by fresh blood, like a new-manager boost relegation candidates frequently experience in football. See also: The Stench of Redemption 😂
Quote from: The Great Cull on December 17, 2023, 12:27:15 PMQuote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 12:15:36 PMIf all bands had to break up after their 4th album, the world wouldn't to too much worse off. There'll be a handful of exceptions, yeah, but the vast majority of stuff from album 5 onwards is a pale reflection of what went before. Most bands have said everything they had to say by #4.
I'd possibly stretch that to 5 or 6 but definitely not beyond that.
5 makes it too easy. 4 makes it hurt :laugh:
Think of it another way: if you had to choose, are there any bands where you'd lose the first four albums to keep everything after? Who do you think were stronger after #4 than before?
Pantera
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 01:54:29 PMNot saying it's a rule, that there are no great albums after #4 but the longer we move on the more that looks like a mid-career fluke brought about by fresh blood, like a new-manager boost relegation candidates frequently experience in football. See also: The Stench of Redemption 😂
Quote from: The Great Cull on December 17, 2023, 12:27:15 PMQuote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 12:15:36 PMIf all bands had to break up after their 4th album, the world wouldn't to too much worse off. There'll be a handful of exceptions, yeah, but the vast majority of stuff from album 5 onwards is a pale reflection of what went before. Most bands have said everything they had to say by #4.
I'd possibly stretch that to 5 or 6 but definitely not beyond that.
5 makes it too easy. 4 makes it hurt :laugh:
Think of it another way: if you had to choose, are there any bands where you'd lose the first four albums to keep everything after? Who do you think were stronger after #4 than before?
COC and Killing Joke are all I can think of
Way off with Killing Joke, the first 2 are 2 of their best.
Their last 3 with me but I think they're a band that can be an exception and sit in their own category
Quote from: Carnage on December 17, 2023, 05:54:46 PMWay off with Killing Joke, the first 2 are 2 of their best.
Killing Joke are just fucking excellent
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 17, 2023, 01:54:29 PMThink of it another way: if you had to choose, are there any bands where you'd lose the first four albums to keep everything after? Who do you think were stronger after #4 than before?
Pantera
Thin Lizzy
Pink Floyd
Death (controversial!)
First band that came to mind to break that rule is opeth, fav albums are in the first 4 but couldn't say they got stale and werent still improving after that. They definitely are the exception and it largely applies.
Not many other bands I can think of.. possibly immolation?
Rush is another, having had a hard time thinking of any more though
Quote from: Giggles on December 18, 2023, 12:10:07 AMDeath (controversial!)
I'd couldn't go along with that, though it's a hard one. I love the progression through all the albums but the song quality is in the first four.
I think I'd say Voivod, too, but their 4 album peak started with the third one. Definitely Anthrax, too. It's interesting. All the bands mentioned are the ones who were slower to find their "classic" sound and tended to stay interesting for longer. Those who emerged with a bang tended to run out of gas earlier. Where there's a significant member change, you sometimes get the Painkiller or Stench effect, but it rarely lasts. Killing Joke are the exeption where their last albums were as good as anything they ever did :laugh:
Iron Maiden's released 3 more classic albums after their fourth.
Quote from: nukeabuse on December 18, 2023, 12:21:27 AMFirst band that came to mind to break that rule is opeth, fav albums are in the first 4 but couldn't say they got stale and werent still improving after that. They definitely are the exception and it largely applies.
Not many other bands I can think of.. possibly immolation?
Immolation are as consistent as it gets and their recent stuff is all very worthy, but you're not getting Dawn of Possession and CTAWB (especially) out of my cold dead hands for anything that comes after.
Quote from: The Great Cull on December 17, 2023, 06:02:18 PMTheir last 3 with me but I think they're a band that can be an exception and sit in their own category
yea, Killing Joke were very consistent throughout their career. I really like how they got heavier over time and the song writing was always very good.
After near 25 years of thinking Slipknots self titled was their first album, I found out today they had two albums before that, one with a different vocalist and one with Taylor.
Ya learn something new every day.
Just the one before the s/t as far as I know, with the old singer - Mate Feed Kill Repeat or something along those lines. It's awful, just a mess. They refer to it as a demo these days, which is pure revisionism as I remember them referring to it as their first album in interviews at the time of the s/t album's release.
Never heard of a pre-s/t album with Taylor TBH, was it a demo or label-only thing?
yep, Mate Feed Kill Repeat, and its deffo an Album.Some of the stuff on it was rejigged and put into the self titled and Iowa. Its a pure mess all right but an interesting listen all the same.
The other one with Taylor is called Crowz, it seems to be a collection of demos released as an album. Haven't listened to it yet.
Its probably not news to the all knowing metal heads here but I was fierce taken aback.
The "Celebrating the ##th anniversary of something" tours that are all over the fucking place ..
Im just thinking today how the one band I've probably most wanted to see live since I was about 14 has been Mr. Bungle, who I missed when they toured "California" and played the UK...and now they're actually doing a bunch of gigs I could get to, I have no interest in seeing them in their current incarnation :laugh:
If they wanna do a "xxxth" anniversary of any of the first 3 albums though, count me in
Quote from: Pentagrimes on December 19, 2023, 01:53:20 PMIm just thinking today how the one band I've probably most wanted to see live since I was about 14 has been Mr. Bungle, who I missed when they toured "California" and played the UK...and now they're actually doing a bunch of gigs I could get to, I have no interest in seeing them in their current incarnation :laugh:
If they wanna do a "xxxth" anniversary of any of the first 3 albums though, count me in
Yeah as much as I enjoyed the live video of the album I wouldn't be arsed either unless it was the good stuff
The version of the Rocket Queen solo in "Slash Made in Stoke" is savage, probably one of my favourite solos of all time..
I don't think it's talked about enough that the band Nails had a ridiculous, like, almost mainstream amount of hype for a grindcore band around 2016 and they rage quit music over a Metal Sucks article :laugh: .
Quote from: ldj on December 21, 2023, 12:49:19 PMI don't think it's talked about enough that the band Nails had a ridiculous, like, almost mainstream amount of hype for a grindcore band around 2016 and they rage quit music over a Metal Sucks article :laugh: .
They've a new album recordeda due next year. Yer man Todd's a bit of an eejit, but the first two albums were class.
Quote from: The Heretic on December 21, 2023, 10:28:19 AMThe version of the Rocket Queen solo in "Slash Made in Stoke" is savage, probably one of my favourite solos of all time..
Enjoyed that, nice one :abbath: Wouldn't put it up in my personal favourites, but good stuff. Slash doing his thing was far and away the best thing about G'n'R when I saw them on the reunion tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqr6rK2ylp0
Quote from: Sworntothecans on December 21, 2023, 01:01:59 PMQuote from: ldj on December 21, 2023, 12:49:19 PMI don't think it's talked about enough that the band Nails had a ridiculous, like, almost mainstream amount of hype for a grindcore band around 2016 and they rage quit music over a Metal Sucks article :laugh: .
They've a new album recordeda due next year. Yer man Todd's a bit of an eejit, but the first two albums were class.
I remember his reasoning being quite right, they're not really my thing but I just think it's mad it seemed like they were on the verge of 'breaking out' and threw it away because of a shit tier gossip site.
Jeff Loomis is out of Arch Enemy, wonder if he'll put together a band where he can properly contribute and write some riffs now
Napalm Death must be pining for simpler times when their album titles only contained 2 words instead of daft shite like Throes of Joy in the Jaws of Defeatism, and Resentment Is Always Seismic – A Final Throw Of Throes.
I know I am. Looking at you too Autopsy.
Quote from: Massey Ferguson on January 03, 2024, 11:07:36 AMNapalm Death must be pining for simpler times when their album titles only contained 2 words instead of daft shite like Throes of Joy in the Jaws of Defeatism, and Resentment Is Always Seismic – A Final Throw Of Throes.
'tis a bit silly, but they're still class
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 04, 2024, 02:00:02 AMQuote from: Massey Ferguson on January 03, 2024, 11:07:36 AMNapalm Death must be pining for simpler times when their album titles only contained 2 words instead of daft shite like Throes of Joy in the Jaws of Defeatism, and Resentment Is Always Seismic – A Final Throw Of Throes.
'tis a bit silly, but they're still class
They've been rehashing the same album for the last 20 years, the only difference is the album titles getting sillier. The odd time they throw in a curveball like John Zorn squawking over a track but it's really the same shit over and over again.
Smear Campaign aside I haven't liked anything they've done since Diatribes, and half of that was dodgy. The odd good track.
Not even Enemy of the Music business? Most people seem to regard that one as a classic at least.
Enemy isn't bad but I don't think they've released a strong album since Fear Emptiness Despair.
Nah, just passed me by, they all did in that period. There isn't a track I can recall between Breed To Breathe (and that's probably just because it was pushed at the time) and Smear Campaign. Same with the post SC albums, just nothing stuck out.
Quote from: Trev on December 30, 2023, 02:20:14 PMJeff Loomis is out of Arch Enemy, wonder if he'll put together a band where he can properly contribute and write some riffs now
Hallelujah, his talent is absolutely wasted with that shower.
I cant say i was a huge fan of their mid/late 90s stuff.Enemy of the Music business came along and was easily their best album since Utopia Banished.Ive dipped in and out of their output since,but regularly go back to Enemy.
Quote from: Paul keohane on January 04, 2024, 07:16:23 PMI cant say i was a huge fan of their mid/late 90s stuff.Enemy of the Music business came along and was easily their best album since Utopia Banished.Ive dipped in and out of their output since,but regularly go back to Enemy.
I tend to dip in and out too. I read Embury's book there and am on a bit of a Napalm buzz now. I find them to be very consistant although listening to an album 50 minutes long I find a bit much with extreme music. Fairly cool they experiment a bit in the last few albums. Clean vocals etc
Apex Predator was great and I'd still return to it regularly enough too.
I rewatched Metalocalypse there including the recent movie.Anyone else a fan of this? I don't recall it ever being mentioned on here or MI for that matter. I love it, so funny and nerdy for the metalhead ha ha
I loved The Code is Red...Long Live the Code, I'd give it a while once or twice a year still.
Quote from: Necro Red on January 12, 2024, 11:16:23 AMI rewatched Metalocalypse there including the recent movie.Anyone else a fan of this? I don't recall it ever being mentioned on here or MI for that matter. I love it, so funny and nerdy for the metalhead ha ha
I watched the first two seasons back when they came out and enjoyed them. Silly but entertaining.
It was mentioned once or twice on the old forum and not in a good way. The usual moany old farts giving out about whatever the kids are into these days :laugh:
Quote from: Giggles on January 12, 2024, 02:13:01 PMQuote from: Necro Red on January 12, 2024, 11:16:23 AMI rewatched Metalocalypse there including the recent movie.Anyone else a fan of this? I don't recall it ever being mentioned on here or MI for that matter. I love it, so funny and nerdy for the metalhead ha ha
I watched the first two seasons back when they came out and enjoyed them. Silly but entertaining.
It was mentioned once or twice on the old forum and not in a good way. The usual moany old farts giving out about whatever the kids are into these days :laugh:
feck them ha ha ha. Only missing out they are
Paul Di'Anno back to what he does best..being an ungrateful cunt..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/paul-diannos-australian-tour-kick-off-described-by-one-reviewer-as-the-worlds-slowest-heavy-metal-car-crash (https://blabbermouth.net/news/paul-diannos-australian-tour-kick-off-described-by-one-reviewer-as-the-worlds-slowest-heavy-metal-car-crash)
Although this is comedy gold...
"One punter got told to call a cab or he was going home in an ambulance"
Reminds me of this..
'The world's slowest heavy metal car crash' :laugh:
Backstage musings with Di'Anno...
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Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on November 21, 2023, 09:21:42 PMWe're in late November, and I think Gene Hoglan has actually managed to avoid saying "We're looking to release the new Dark Angel album next year" at all this year. :laugh:
Turns out I was wrong. :laugh:
A band name that irritates me more than most is Powerwolf... Or any band with either Power or Wolf in the title for that matter.
What in fucks name is a power wolf? Is he just very strong? Does he shoot lightning out of his fangs/cock/both? Or does he just work for the ESB checking smart meters at night?
Either way, it's not helped by the band looking like mongos in any image I've ever seen from them.
Have they never beset your door? Hear them stalking, brah.
Anything I have heard from Powerwolf is pretty poor fodder.
Though there is a great wee Swedish Heavy Metal band called Wolf. Debut album is great even though it has some of the worse album art known to man.
Quote from: Anvil on February 06, 2024, 08:35:09 PMAnything I have heard from Powerwolf is pretty poor fodder.
Though there is a great wee Swedish Heavy Metal band called Wolf. Debut album is great even though it has some of the worse album art known to man.
Wolf are a great band, but their artwork has been pretty much terrible the whole career. Especially that debut.
I've grown to hate eejits hanging around in graveyards for their band photos.
Its not original and you just look like a poser pretending you want to be dead
Graveyard band photos are the best. I took some only last week 8)
I was talking to someone earlier about Chopper Read and mentioned there was a band years ago that brought him on tour as the opening act for a spoken set but then I couldn't find anything about it online and now I'm like am I talking shit? I could have sworn on MI there was a thread about it 🤔
Quote from: Mithrandir on February 11, 2024, 08:22:25 AMI was talking to someone earlier about Chopper Read and mentioned there was a band years ago that brought him on tour as the opening act for a spoken set but then I couldn't find anything about it online and now I'm like am I talking shit? I could have sworn on MI there was a thread about it 🤔
I recently worked with a dude briefly who was locked up in 89 for three years for armed robbery while addicted to heroin. He ended up in Pentridge High Security Prison while Chopper was there.
He was a nice enough dude but a useless lazy cunt at the same time :laugh:
Quote from: Mithrandir on February 11, 2024, 08:22:25 AMI was talking to someone earlier about Chopper Read and mentioned there was a band years ago that brought him on tour as the opening act for a spoken set but then I couldn't find anything about it online and now I'm like am I talking shit? I could have sworn on MI there was a thread about it 🤔
Anal Cunt?
I think Belfast was booked, but he died shortly before
Chopper was suppose to support Anal Cunt in Belfast I was going to head to it myself. The tour was postponed due to Chopper being unwell then he never got better. Seth Putnam and Chopper spending time in a small van touring around Europe would have led to some great stories afterwards.
I seem to remember the rider was 2 crates of Guinness and 2 bottles of whiskey or something very similar to that.
This Love by Pantera and Run To You by Bryan Adams have a certain something in common. Never copped it before this evening
Accept don't really get the credit they deserve in the English speaking world.
Only recently I gave a listen to the first Metal Church album and can say two things. One: It's really good, two: even during first spin I was able to identify 2-3 riffs in every single song, riffs that I've heard on the albums recorded later and by bigger bands.
I only recently gave it a lash as well but have it marked to go back to. I won't ask what riffs, as of yet.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 11, 2024, 02:51:43 AMGraveyard band photos are the best. I took some only last week 8)
Was only thinking about this today, some photos popped up on my FB from Sepulcre...not only are they 'the best' but they should also be considered compulsory. Think of all those great photos of Sarcofago, Blasphemy etc. Glorious stuff.
Hugo Weaving is gradually morphing into Okoi Jones...
Ticketmaster ripping people off big time these days. I was going to go to ACDC. The prices are extortionate. 166 euro......insane
Ticketmaster are only ripping off people who allow themselves to be ripped off and, to be fair, why wouldn't they? They're in the business of making money and don't make a secret of it. If you don't think it's worth it, don't go. The choice is entirely yours.
Years ago I decided I'd never pay over €50 for a gig ever again. I still go to plenty of gigs and don't feel I've ever missed out on anything special. There's no emotional flapping, either, it's a simple no if it's over €50 no matter who it is. Big gigs are usually shit, let's be honest. You're usually miles away from the fucking band, the sound is shit, you're surrounded by cretins holding their phones in your view and the bands are usually well past their best. Why anyone would pay anything for that experience is beyond me. Go to five or six smaller gigs with the money.
I've always pronounced Xentrix as Zentrix, someone the other day pointed out its actually Eccentrics?
Aye, I called them 'Zentrix' for years until I copped it. Still think it that way.
If nu-metal somehow happened to spawn on a timeline between Sabbath and thrash, it could be recognised as an important step in the evolution of metal. Would the exact same music be held in a higher regard just because of a different placement on the chain?
Wearing flares instead of trackies? Tee hee
No. Whining about how hard it is to be a self-obsessed American teenager when well past that age will never be acceptable. Never.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on February 16, 2024, 11:32:35 AMTicketmaster are only ripping off people who allow themselves to be ripped off and, to be fair, why wouldn't they? They're in the business of making money and don't make a secret of it. If you don't think it's worth it, don't go. The choice is entirely yours.
Years ago I decided I'd never pay over €50 for a gig ever again. I still go to plenty of gigs and don't feel I've ever missed out on anything special. There's no emotional flapping, either, it's a simple no if it's over €50 no matter who it is. Big gigs are usually shit, let's be honest. You're usually miles away from the fucking band, the sound is shit, you're surrounded by cretins holding their phones in your view and the bands are usually well past their best. Why anyone would pay anything for that experience is beyond me. Go to five or six smaller gigs with the money.
I completely agree, and I generally go to more underground shows than the big expensive ones.
South of Heaven.
Or
Master of Puppets.
????
I'm going MoP but it's way closer than I thought and maybe I have been wrong
MOP. Easy.
Quote from: astfgyl on February 23, 2024, 02:51:22 AMSouth of Heaven.
Or
Master of Puppets.
????
I'm going MoP but it's way closer than I thought and maybe I have been wrong
Funnily enough, the verse riff of 'Behind the Crooked Cross' is suspiciously similar to the verse riff of MoP.
I would say for me some of the tracks on MoP are overly long, (a trend Metallica have pushed past the point of exhaustion since the 2000s) but still a ground breaking classic.
SoH is more to the point and I think has some of Slayers best song writing and guitar playing, which definitely stands in its favour for me.
I'll have to get the two of them out back to back with a couple of cans and see
I'd probably go for MOP just because Orion is on it. Love South of Heaven though, it's my favourite Slayer album.
South Of Heaven, no contest. Their best album by a mile, every track a winner. Master Of Puppets, as great as it is, still has Leper Messiah and Disposable Heroes, which let the side down.
Puppets all day long.
Love Disposable Heroes! Had it on a C90 compilation I made for playing 40K and Space Marine to back in my teens, so it's also among the Metallica songs I've heard the most in my life :laugh: :abbath:
Anyway, yeah, MoP.
MOP is great and all....but South every time !
Quote from: Carnage on February 23, 2024, 10:51:11 AMMaster Of Puppets, as great as it is, still has Leper Messiah and Disposable Heroes, which let the side down.
Both of those songs are bangers, especially Leper Messiah. Great riffs, great solos great vocal delivery.
I WAS BORN FOR DYIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGG!!
Puppets, no question.
SoH is great but dips too much in the second half. Read Between the Lies, Cleanse the Soul, Spill the Blood are all good songs, but not up with the title track, Mandatory Suicide, Behind the Crooked Cross...
MoP is just fucking great start to finish
I love MoP from start to finish but I also love SoH from start to finish.
Not a bad tune on either
I'd have to go with Puppets, like picking a favourite child though
Ah yeah I went with Puppets myself at a pinch but fuck me I do sometimes forget how good SoH is and by god is it great
Quote from: Bürggermeister on February 16, 2024, 11:32:35 AMTicketmaster are only ripping off people who allow themselves to be ripped off and, to be fair, why wouldn't they? They're in the business of making money and don't make a secret of it. If you don't think it's worth it, don't go. The choice is entirely yours.
Years ago I decided I'd never pay over €50 for a gig ever again. I still go to plenty of gigs and don't feel I've ever missed out on anything special. There's no emotional flapping, either, it's a simple no if it's over €50 no matter who it is. Big gigs are usually shit, let's be honest. You're usually miles away from the fucking band, the sound is shit, you're surrounded by cretins holding their phones in your view and the bands are usually well past their best. Why anyone would pay anything for that experience is beyond me. Go to five or six smaller gigs with the money.
One thing I find more than ever now is the local scene is where it's at. You can find super high quality bands and follow them (not in a social media way), see them in intimate venues, have room, pay next to nothing, it's great! I've found that ever since covid there's been way better crowds at local shows too. More people and more engaged. I hardly ever see an international band these days, only if it's someone I truly want to see.
Agree about the huge legacy acts, I don't bother with that at all any more. Most of them were already bloated and shit when I'd have been seeing them 20yrs ago, never mind now.
Also, never once clocked the right way to say Xentrix, and it's so obvious now when you hear it...
Puppets, no contest. It has my three favourite 'Tallica songs, with The Thing That Should Not Be kicking off my love of _music_, not just metal. Leper Messiah is a close second. Disposable Heroes is my favourite long track of their's too :laugh:
I love SoH, but I'd put it in fourth place of Slayer's discog.
Quote from: Ducky on February 23, 2024, 11:57:43 PMPuppets, no contest. It has my three favourite 'Tallica songs, with The Thing That Should Not Be kicking off my love of _music_, not just metal. Leper Messiah is a close second. Disposable Heroes is my favourite long track of their's too :laugh:
I love SoH, but I'd put it in fourth place of Slayer's discog.
Which three are you putting ahead of it?
I'd put Show No Mercy, Hell Awaits, Reign In Blood and probably even Haunting The Chapel and Live Undead all ahead of South Of Heaven.
I hadnt listened to SOH in about 10 years before this thread, and I'd actually forgotten how good it is. Not as consistent as Reign or Hell Awaits - Side 2 is a litter on the filler side bar "Spill The Blood" (though I have a soft spot for "Cleanse The Soul") but Side 1 is all bangers. I'd reach for that over Show no Mercy.
Not mad about Reign in Blood tbh and only listened to Show No Mercy once. I wonder how much difference it made that I was late to the table and didn't hear the albums as they came out. Divine Intervention was out before I ever heard a note of Slayer
Yep, I bought it on cd a few weeks ago not having had a copy in thirty years. First side is savage and side two is cool bar two kind of middling songs.
Possibly fits in to this thread: I listened to a band called Sleep Token this morning based on seeing their name everywhere and Rob Halford namechecking them.
This is just modern RnB/pop wrapped up in metal aesthetics surely?I don't hear any metal elements at all. Sam Smith for Tool fans
it's also some of the worst shit I've ever heard, and I've no major objection to pop music
Quote from: Pentagrimes on February 24, 2024, 10:18:46 AMPossibly fits in to this thread: I listened to a band called Sleep Token this morning based on seeing their name everywhere and Rob Halford namechecking them.
This is just modern RnB/pop wrapped up in metal aesthetics surely?I don't hear any metal elements at all. Sam Smith for Tool fans
it's also some of the worst shit I've ever heard, and I've no major objection to pop music
I checked them out a few weeks back as I saw some headline about them being the future of metal. If that's the future of it then I think this is definitely my stop to get off the bus. There's no metal element to them at all.
Incredible marketing though. Also an intriguing glimpse into how people will like something they wouldnt usually if it's marketed in a way that matches their preferred aesthetics.
I'm off to record a slowed down ska album with some David Glomba artwork and cryptic lyrics about the kaballah, Kerrang here I come.
Sam Smith for Tool fans :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Now there's a description to ensure I never listen to it
Yeah it's fuckin woeful but I will never get sick of this: https://youtu.be/v57pSLMvHGs?si=KhJgoVbLtO7dkuuH
Quote from: Trev on February 16, 2024, 12:44:34 PMI've always pronounced Xentrix as Zentrix, someone the other day pointed out its actually Eccentrics?
No it's pronounced Zentrix.
First I'm ever hearing of Sleep Token. Worse, or at least equally bad, shite has been passed off as metal in the past.
Quote from: astfgyl on February 24, 2024, 09:26:06 AMQuote from: Ducky on February 23, 2024, 11:57:43 PMPuppets, no contest. It has my three favourite 'Tallica songs, with The Thing That Should Not Be kicking off my love of _music_, not just metal. Leper Messiah is a close second. Disposable Heroes is my favourite long track of their's too :laugh:
I love SoH, but I'd put it in fourth place of Slayer's discog.
Which three are you putting ahead of it?
RiB, Divine Intervention (which is possibly one for the Controversial Opinions thread), SitA. In that order. I'd put Show No Mercy just after it
1. South Of Heaven
=2. Show No Mercy
=2. Seasons In The Abyss
4. Reign In Blood
5. Divine Intervention
Quote from: Ducky on February 24, 2024, 03:10:18 PMQuote from: astfgyl on February 24, 2024, 09:26:06 AMQuote from: Ducky on February 23, 2024, 11:57:43 PMPuppets, no contest. It has my three favourite 'Tallica songs, with The Thing That Should Not Be kicking off my love of _music_, not just metal. Leper Messiah is a close second. Disposable Heroes is my favourite long track of their's too :laugh:
I love SoH, but I'd put it in fourth place of Slayer's discog.
Which three are you putting ahead of it?
RiB, Divine Intervention (which is possibly one for the Controversial Opinions thread), SitA. In that order. I'd put Show No Mercy just after it
For me it's South of Heaven
Divine Intervention
Diabolous in Musica
So that's surely another for the controversial thread!!
That's just lunacy.
Any Slayer up to and including DI over any Metallica for me.
Quote from: open face surgery on February 24, 2024, 05:14:40 PMThat's just lunacy.
Any Slayer up to and including DI over any Metallica for me.
The Diabolous In Musica in 3rd place? I fuckin love that album
Quote from: astfgyl on February 24, 2024, 05:18:30 PMQuote from: open face surgery on February 24, 2024, 05:14:40 PMThat's just lunacy.
Any Slayer up to and including DI over any Metallica for me.
The Diabolous In Musica in 3rd place? I fuckin love that album
God Hates Us All was where it finished for me. So uninspired all the way through
Quote from: astfgyl on February 24, 2024, 05:18:30 PMQuote from: open face surgery on February 24, 2024, 05:14:40 PMThat's just lunacy.
Any Slayer up to and including DI over any Metallica for me.
The Diabolous In Musica in 3rd place? I fuckin love that album
That whole top 3.
I'd have Puppets and SOH pretty much at the same level, but the clincher is SOH has Ghosts of War, and Puppets doesn't.
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on February 24, 2024, 08:50:54 PMI'd have Puppets and SOH pretty much at the same level, but the clincher is SOH has Ghosts of War, and Puppets doesn't.
First time I played it (side 2) I thought the tape was being chewed. The relief when it actually kicked in was solid.
That kick in is fuckin serious
It's straight off of Reign In Blood. SOH is such a perfect album (no filler, fuck off, even the JP cover is excellent), the only 'big 4' album that tops it is Ride The Lightning.
Dissident Aggressor is one of the best songs on it.
Quote from: astfgyl on February 24, 2024, 09:00:38 PMQuote from: open face surgery on February 24, 2024, 08:41:38 PMQuote from: astfgyl on February 24, 2024, 05:18:30 PMQuote from: open face surgery on February 24, 2024, 05:14:40 PMThat's just lunacy.
Any Slayer up to and including DI over any Metallica for me.
The Diabolous In Musica in 3rd place? I fuckin love that album
That whole top 3.
Go on so, give yours
SNM or Hell Awaits in a constantly rotating 1st. Currently Hell Awaits, so SNM 2nd and RiB 3rd. It's arbitrary anyway. It's great that they have so many good albums.
Tried Show No Mercy again this morning just can't get into it for whatever reason. Ended up putting on Divine Intervention after about 5 tracks.
They do have a rake of serious tunes to be fair to them
Black Magic is the best song on SNM, and it's track 6 :laugh:
I've said it before but Divine Intervention is savage. Probably their album that gets the most plays from me after Hell Awaits. Can't agree with your stance on Diabolus though, couple of decent songs but mostly bollocks!
Quote from: Ducky on February 25, 2024, 03:22:12 PMBlack Magic is the best song on SNM, and it's track 6 :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Born of Fire on February 25, 2024, 03:25:42 PMI've said it before but Divine Intervention is savage. Probably their album that gets the most plays from me after Hell Awaits. Can't agree with your stance on Diabolus though, couple of decent songs but mostly bollocks!
I fuckin love Diabolous and ì genuinely can't understand why I'm the only one.
Fair enough the rugby one is probably the worst tune they ever had but if we leave that one out it's all solid
Diabolous kinda veers into bro-dude chugga-chugga metal for me, but I'll die on the "Bitter Peace is one of their best songs" hill if I have to :abbath:
I get it's seen as their nu metal effort but I don't hear that at all even though everyone else seems to.
Agreed about Bitter Peace anyway it's a fuckin cracking tune
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Found in the discography section of the NIN official site. Saw it years back but forgot it was there
This thread is mental, MOP of SoH every day of the week
And Show No Mercy is hands down the best Slayer album and they decline in order they were released.
Quote from: Mithrandir on March 05, 2024, 04:25:10 AMThis thread is mental, MOP of SoH every day of the week
And Show No Mercy is hands down the best Slayer album and they decline in order they were released.
Ah, they don't decline in order. No way! Hell Awaits is better than SNM. I love how evil it is. Divine Intervention is my most played these days, just love the agrresion and drums on it. Side note, the song Gemini at the end of Undisputed Attitude is a lost gem. Excellent song, never seems to get mentioned at all.
Fucking love Gemini. Tied myself in knots trying to follow the drums as a young fella.
Why is Alan Averill so obsessed with nooses/gallows? He probably dresses up as a hangman and calls herself a traitor before they do it doggy style amongst the ruins.
Careful, you might end up on a pyre
Quote from: Vlad III on March 07, 2024, 03:55:21 PMWhy is Alan Averill so obsessed with nooses/gallows? He probably dresses up as a hangman and calls herself a traitor before they do it doggy style amongst the ruins.
Noose
Gallows
Wounded animals
Brothers
Sisters
Martyrs
Pierced
Pyres
Culture
Heathens
Wind
Ruins
Could play bingo with his motifs!
Possibly controversial AA take - on it's day the Blood Revolt album is the best thing he's put his name to.
Forgot what thread I was in haha
I've posited that before, basically anytime after I listen to Blood Revolt. Real gritty stuff.
Is it just me or does Trabolgan sound like the name of a Norwegian black metal band.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 08, 2024, 02:13:20 AMIs it just me or does Trabolgan sound like the name of a Norwegian black metal band.
:laugh: I have that Trabolgan tape split there with Castlemartyr if you're looking for a copy
I got a copy in a trade with Euronymous back in the day before I even knew who he was or what black metal was or what tape trading was.
Quote from: Squigs on March 07, 2024, 08:34:27 PMQuote from: Vlad III on March 07, 2024, 03:55:21 PMWhy is Alan Averill so obsessed with nooses/gallows? He probably dresses up as a hangman and calls herself a traitor before they do it doggy style amongst the ruins.
Noose
Gallows
Wounded animals
Brothers
Sisters
Martyrs
Pierced
Pyres
Culture
Heathens
Wind
Ruins
Could play bingo with his motifs!
You forgot Nations!
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 08, 2024, 08:52:59 AMI got a copy in a trade with Euronymous back in the day before I even knew who he was or what black metal was or what tape trading was.
In that case you'll of course know "Trabolgan" was the lost demo Darkthrone recorded between "Thulcandra" and "Cromlech".Their little known satanic funk metal demo.
Only Ahascragh is real.
It's mad to me that the current UK scene for all its national flag waving just copies whatever Yanks are doing, and there are no bands exploring the Peaceville 3 influence (that I know of). Indesinence were the last one I can think of
During the pandemic I started selling loads of old tshirts on Depop. Was a fun way to clear out some stuff and make a few quid too. I had an Emperor shirt with the pale rider on the front and the festival dates for summer 2007 on the back that I picked up at Hellfest that year. Dunno why I sold that one.
I picked up that t-shirt when I saw them over here last year but, critically, no poxy dates on the back 8)
Poor old Frank Beck. Kai Hansen hires him as the new singer of Gamma Ray in 2015, but proceeds to do his Hansen solo project, then rejoins Helloween.
I think in nine years with them, he's done a couple of festival shows and a show in an empty venue during Covid. Though they're doing some dates this year... and bringing back Ralf Scheepers for a bunch of them.
I'll occasionally be in work and just think about the existence of this photo
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Quote from: Squigs on March 07, 2024, 08:34:27 PMPossibly controversial AA take - on it's day the Blood Revolt album is the best thing he's put his name to.
Wrong thread but I agree, I really don't think Indoctrine gets the praise it deserves.
Quote from: Squigs on March 09, 2024, 09:06:03 AMDuring the pandemic I started selling loads of old tshirts on Depop. Was a fun way to clear out some stuff and make a few quid too. I had an Emperor shirt with the pale rider on the front and the festival dates for summer 2007 on the back that I picked up at Hellfest that year. Dunno why I sold that one.
I always think/hope with the trend of influencers wearing metal shirts that there's got to be someone walking around Coachella in some Der Sturmer/Absurd/Arghoslent hot shower-esque nsbm merch
Jeff looks like he is about to burst with excitement. Or Heineken.
Quote from: Mithrandir on March 09, 2024, 08:42:21 PMQuote from: Squigs on March 09, 2024, 09:06:03 AMDuring the pandemic I started selling loads of old tshirts on Depop. Was a fun way to clear out some stuff and make a few quid too. I had an Emperor shirt with the pale rider on the front and the festival dates for summer 2007 on the back that I picked up at Hellfest that year. Dunno why I sold that one.
I always think/hope with the trend of influencers wearing metal shirts that there's got to be someone walking around Coachella in some Der Sturmer/Absurd/Arghoslent hot shower-esque nsbm merch
:laugh: Any Arghoslent shirt I've seen has been less than ambiguous to say the least
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 09, 2024, 08:49:31 PMJeff looks like he is about to burst with excitement. Or Heineken.
He looks like Trump in that pic.
Bolt Thrower's groove is a beautiful thing.
Quote from: Mr Barlow on March 10, 2024, 08:19:22 AMBolt Thrower's groove is a beautiful thing.
I really admire Bolt Thrower for saying they're breaking up and staying broken up unlike a lot of certain other bands
On the other hand, I never got a chance to see them so if they could just do a few shows... :laugh:
Bolt thrower are kind of boring and shit?
Quote from: Mithrandir on March 10, 2024, 09:58:28 AMBolt thrower are kind of boring and shit?
Never got into them. I must give the first one a go sometime as that's the one I get recommended by people but I have IVth Crusade and it did nothing for me. Cool for a song or two but a full album... nein.
Bolt Thrower are fine but really "Realm of Chaos" and "Warmaster" are all you need. Personally "Realm of Chaos" had a huge impact on me when it came out, and they just fell into a formula after "Warmaster" where they became the death metal Status Quo.I've a lot of respect for BT in terms of how they operated, and their integrity overall. I'd not begrudge them a reunion if they chose to do so but I don't see it ever happening.
I genuinely thought that was Jim Thirlwell from Foetus in that photo rather than oul' Ace for a second.
With everything being reissued on vinyl these days, obscure demos and the likes, how much of it is just digital rips we're listening to 🤔
Just found the cassette version of Hell Awaits that I had years ago on Discogs. I knew I hadn't imagined the extra tracks - though I'm sure I had it before 1990. I bought SNM and SOH together when the latter came out, and I'm 100% sure that Live Undead (which had Chemical Warfare tacked on at the end) and this version of Hell Awaits were on the same shelf, both of which I bought a week or two after:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4436964-Slayer-Hell-Awaits
Quote from: Pentagrimes on March 10, 2024, 10:54:46 AMBolt Thrower are fine but really "Realm of Chaos" and "Warmaster" are all you need. Personally "Realm of Chaos" had a huge impact on me when it came out, and they just fell into a formula after "Warmaster" where they became the death metal Status Quo.
Inaccurate: one also needs ...For Victory :abbath:
I honestly don't find them noticeably less innovative from album to album than most DM bands.
The IVth Crusade, Mercenary and Those Once Loyal are fucking brilliant.
And so is 70's Quo BTW.
I wouldn't say they had a bad album. Depending on the day, any combination would be in my top 3. If asked now I'd go for War Master, ...For Victory and Those Once Loyal but it's like Maiden - I'd have a different pick depending on mood.
Quote from: The Wretch on March 26, 2024, 01:06:48 AMThe IVth Crusade, Mercenary and Those Once Loyal are fucking brilliant.
And so is 70's Quo BTW.
You are correct sir !
After seeing someone mention it here, I've installed the discogs app to build an inventory of the oul collection. It's full of surprises. There's stuff I would have thought was worth a bit which sells for fuck all and other stuff which I might have dismissed but sells for decent money. It's addictive, I'm dying to scan the rest of it all :laugh:
Die Young is one hell of a song.
Probably my favourite AiC track
Quote from: Thorn on March 26, 2024, 07:41:59 PMProbably my favourite AiC track
I'd say he is on about the Black Sabbath song, both killer though.
Oh yeah..right enough :laugh:
Yep, Black Sabbath 8)
We Die Young is a great song as well.
Realm of Chaos or Those Once Loyal would be the Bolt Thrower albums I would reach for first. Don't think they have a bad album.
Dan Lilker's going to fill in for Frank Bello on the upcoming Anthrax U.S./S.A. tour. Now that's a show I wouldn't mind seeing.
Quote from: Carnage on March 28, 2024, 12:28:49 PMDan Lilker's going to fill in for Frank Bello on the upcoming Anthrax U.S./S.A. tour. Now that's a show I wouldn't mind seeing.
Wow. I imagine that will change their sound quite a bit, but yeah, I'd like to see that too.
I wonder will they shake things up a bit and play a few more Fistful Of Metal songs? Surely an S.O.D. track or two will make an appearance (probably just the album intro and first track)? Belladonna's ego might not let them, they don't play any Bush era songs these days, as far as I know so he might not want to sing more Turbin ones.
Quote from: Carnage on March 28, 2024, 01:09:52 PMI wonder will they shake things up a bit and play a few more Fistful Of Metal songs? Surely an S.O.D. track or two will make an appearance (probably just the album intro and first track)? Belladonna's ego might not let them, they don't play any Bush era songs these days, as far as I know so he might not want to sing more Turbin ones.
Think the Armed & Dangerous stuff is as far back as Joey will go.
Metal Thrashing Mad is a staple, sure he might push out the boat and try Deathrider or even Panic again.
Rotting Christ have just released a single called Saoirse, will they now have to spend 5 minutes of every interview giving its correct pronunciation like Ronan does?
https://metaladdicts.com/rotting-christ-releases-new-single-saoirse/
If so, I hope they do a better job than her. I've yet to hear her pronounce her name correctly.
Yeah, I haven't heard her say it correctly either now that I think about it. It's not as galling as yanks saying "Sam-Haaayne" like, but still, make an effort girl!
She puts on a skanger accent, I wouldn't expect her to even try.
Zakk Wylde. The absolute state.
:laugh: :laugh: I agree.
Yeah, sign me up to your newsletter. Went to the Zakk Sabbath gig in Birmingham on the 50th anniversary of the first Sabbath album. Playing Sabbath songs in Birmingham, it has to be good, it has to be! How could anyone fuck that up? Endless, tedious fucking guitar solos, that's how. Fucking clown.
I loved his work on the first couple of Ozzy albums he did, but his music has become increasingly awful since the late 90's.
And that's before you get to the fake biker image, the permanently stained, witch nail hands from stroking his dyed, raggedy beard that is like a pound shop wig glued to his face, the boots that look like they came from a garden gnome, those ridiculous fucking guitars...
"Saint Rhoads mumble mumble" "Dime mumble mumble" "Terrible wife/gay joke that would embarrass Bernard Manning mumble mumble"
The big fucking goon.
Fucksake, they're back.
https://youtu.be/ua5xDfKTHx8
Megadeth would be so much better if Megadave had the cop on to get in a proper vocalist.
Everytime I see the Kawir logo lately I think it's Kittie.
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MABs been working out! :laugh:
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on April 04, 2024, 12:08:25 AMMegadeth would be so much better if Megadave had the cop on to get in a proper vocalist.
Nah, his nasal snarl perfectly suits the sound of classic Megadeth. Honestly couldn't imagine anyone but him on vocals.
It was when he strated trying to sing that it all turned to shit. Sneery Dave was amazing.
Agreed... more specifically a sneery, coked out of it Mustaine was amazing. He oozed attitude like very few others and his peak for that was on So Far... So Good... So What
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Him and David Vincent obviously share wardrobes and hair dye :laugh:
That latter day ManOwaR uniform. The fucking Joe Lynn Turner wig really completes the look.
Yeah, I think I grew up with his vocals so I don't find them off putting at all. I'd imagine a cold and clinical analysis wouldn't be as flattering.
I can't really imagine anyone else than Muataine on vocals at this point, but if they had a more competent singer from the beginning I reckon they might have been a bit bigger
On a similar enough point, Jeff Waters would be an amazing lead guitarist/co-songwriter for a band, but left to his own with Annihilator its mostly forgettable
Mustaine's voice is great, you wollies.
Mustaine's voice was great, he's been shit for decades. As has his band, to be fair.
Quote from: Trev on April 05, 2024, 11:11:53 PMI can't really imagine anyone else than Muataine on vocals at this point, but if they had a more competent singer from the beginning I reckon they might have been a bit bigger
On a similar enough point, Jeff Waters would be an amazing lead guitarist/co-songwriter for a band, but left to his own with Annihilator its mostly forgettable
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Never really noticed it before but I was on a bit of a Megadeth buzz there for a few days after not really listening to them for a few years and it struck me that what I used to perceive as snarling vocals, seething with attitude are actually reedy, weak vocals, whining in complaint.
Its the kind of thing that once ya hear it, ya cant unhear it.
Just my opinion.
Quote from: Trev on April 05, 2024, 11:11:53 PMOn a similar enough point, Jeff Waters would be an amazing lead guitarist/co-songwriter for a band, but left to his own with Annihilator its mostly forgettable
Great point. I had Alice in Hell on last night, and it's almost the perfect thrash album. Yet as you say, their gear is mostly forgettable. Never, Neverland is passable, but the production kills it a bit, and it has the song about Kraft ready meals...
I can't remember the last time I even entertained putting on a record of their's that wasn't AiH.
I bought Never, Neverland when it came out, didn't think much of it. Never bothered with anything else, might give AIH a listen.
Quote from: Carnage on April 06, 2024, 03:56:01 PMI bought Never, Neverland when it came out, didn't think much of it. Never bothered with anything else, might give AIH a listen.
Those two are pretty much all you need, although admittedly I do like the two albums with Joe Comeau on vocals but the guitar tone on them is pure shite
I love 'Alice In Hell', and there are some great tunes on 'Never Neverland' 'Set The World On Fire' and 'King Of The Kill'.
I usually have a listen to their new stuff just for curiosities sake, but I haven't actually bought an album since 'Criteria For A Black Widow' which was the re-union of the 'Alice In Hell' line-up, but even that was a disappointment for the most part.
It's a shame, Waters is a great guitarist, and seems a pretty cool guy, but they never really lived up to their potential.
The first Comeau album is very good, the shite guitar tone came on the second one, probably the worst guitar tone ever recorded. Criteria is grand but is just an very blatant effort at doing AIH again. I actually prefer Never, Neverland over AIH but it's a close run thing. Coburn Pharr is a truly fucking great singer on it. That being said, the kraft song is a total abomination. Waters is his own worst enemy, he has all the skill in the world but frequently loses touch with what's good and what's not and doesn't allow anyone in to help steer him. He could've been fucking huge instead of a bit-part.
They supported Priest in the SFX on the Painkiller tour, after Never, Neverland came out. The other guitarist had quit mid-tour so Waters was doing all the guitar stuff by himself and the cunt pulled it off, he was genuinely a fucking amazing guitarist.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 06, 2024, 04:42:48 PMThe first Comeau album is very good, the shite guitar tone came on the second one, probably the worst guitar tone ever recorded.
I might check out that Comeau album, was that 'Carnival Diablos'?
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 06, 2024, 04:42:48 PMWaters is his own worst enemy, he has all the skill in the world but frequently loses touch with what's good and what's not and doesn't allow anyone in to help steer him. He could've been fucking huge instead of a bit-part.
Yeah, that's a pretty fair assessment.
Yeah. Don't even waste finger energy clicking on Waking the Fury.
Cool, I'll give 'Carnival Diablos' a go so.
He has made some odd choices. What was the one with the drum machine, 'Remains' I think? Awful.
Artists that say "we are doing it for the fans" or giving "the fans what they want"...really?
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 06, 2024, 04:42:48 PMThe first Comeau album is very good, the shite guitar tone came on the second one, probably the worst guitar tone ever recorded.
Aye that's right, I got the two of them in one of those double album disc sets so the two are always a bit interchangeable for me
AIH is one the best thrash albums, Neverland is a bit odd in places but still great, imperiled eyes is the best prog thrash song
I always put the daftness of Annihilator down to them being Canadian. Waters usually in with an absolute face melter of a solo to redeem a corny and mundane song.
Speaking of Canadians, I can't for the life of me understand how Voivod & Skinny Puppy haven't collaborated with each other.
Sometimes it is not the more obvious change of membership in a band that is the biggest loss musically.
For example - Although I would agree with most people that their first couple of albums are their best, I think in terms of maintaining their musical identity, the partnership of Trey Azagthoth and Pete Sandoval was always more important to Morbid Angel than who was singing with the band, or who was the second guitarist.
And oftentimes I think Dream Theater losing Kevin Moore was a bigger loss than people, or even the band themselves realise. Maybe even more than when Mike Portnoy wasn't there. He just seemed to have a different sensibility as a writer than the other members and his successors, and I think that is large part of what is missing for me when I listen to most of their later albums.
100% on board with the Kevin Moore thing. Love the albums he played on, can barely listen to anything after them (doesn't help that LaBrie blew out his vocal chords around the same time too).
Quote from: Ducky on April 09, 2024, 05:32:56 PM100% on board with the Kevin Moore thing. Love the albums he played on, can barely listen to anything after them (doesn't help that LaBrie blew out his vocal chords around the same time too).
Yeah. I liked 'A Change Of Seasons', most of 'Metropolis Pt 2' and a couple of things on 'Six Degrees...' but since then I find most of their stuff really dull. None of it really sticks in my head at all.
I was chatting to my friend last weekend and he was saying his nephew is the only lad in secondary school that listens to metal. Said everyone just passively listens to the generic pop on the go. Anyone else find this somewhat scary? I remember there was always a handful of lads into it when I was in school. I wonder what has changed over the years?
Quote from: Necro Red on April 11, 2024, 11:16:13 AMI was chatting to my friend last weekend and he was saying his nephew is the only lad in secondary school that listens to metal. Said everyone just passively listens to the generic pop on the go. Anyone else find this somewhat scary? I remember there was always a handful of lads into it when I was in school. I wonder what has changed over the years?
I was out doing a bit of gardening a while back with some metal playing. Young lad from next door popped his head over the wall to ask what it was. Said he doesn't really listen to music at all, just podcasts, I found it absolutely bizarre
My kids will be outliers then. My 10 year old loves to chat about the best eras for Metallica, Anthrax etc and can talk at length about Queen, Kiss, Black Sabbath, Def Leppard
There are a good few young lads (and a few lasses) into metal here now, which wasn't the case for a long time. You had the whole emo and pop-punk thing for a while, and then very little in the way of any kind of subculture, but the last year or two is the first time I've noticed a lot of youngsters in metal shirts, patched denim, long hair etc. And from what I see on their shirts and jackets they seem to be into both the classics, and the newer and more extreme bands, which is great.
Quote from: The Wretch on April 11, 2024, 01:36:22 PMThere are a good few young lads (and a few lasses) into metal here now, which wasn't the case for a long time. You had the whole emo and pop-punk thing for a while, and then very little in the way of any kind of subculture, but the last year or two is the first time I've noticed a lot of youngsters in metal shirts, patched denim, long hair etc. And from what I see on their shirts and jackets they seem to be into both the classics, and the newer and more extreme bands, which is great.
that is class! Good to hear that. Here in kilkenny there is fecking nobody into it at all. The last time I seen someone in a metal shirt it was tourist ha ha
Quote from: Necro Red on April 11, 2024, 01:59:14 PMthat is class! Good to hear that. Here in kilkenny there is fecking nobody into it at all. The last time I seen someone in a metal shirt it was tourist ha ha
There are a fair few bands here too. Not many of them are to my tastes admittedly, but I'm still happy to see it, as that hasn't been the case for decades, so it's good to see.
Parents and schools etc seem to be a bit more supportive of it now, and there are more places for them to practice and play.
When we started playing years ago it was a pain in the hole getting somewhere to play locally, and we used to have to practice in our drummers parent's front room, until we made a practice space in an old shed out the back of the house.
We used to play in Kilkenny the odd time years ago, sort of a basement bar, but I'm damned if I can remember the name. I do remember there were pipes just above the stage, and our singer gave himself concussion jumping up and clocking his head on them. Fuckin eejit was always doing something daft. He got thrown out of The Hub in Dublin for wrecking the jacks when he was drunk, they threw him out without his shoes and bag onto the street. He couldn't even get through to the rest of us on the phone, we were all getting shitfaced with the other bands.
Quote from: The Wretch on April 09, 2024, 07:22:16 PMQuote from: Ducky on April 09, 2024, 05:32:56 PM100% on board with the Kevin Moore thing. Love the albums he played on, can barely listen to anything after them (doesn't help that LaBrie blew out his vocal chords around the same time too).
Yeah. I liked 'A Change Of Seasons', most of 'Metropolis Pt 2' and a couple of things on 'Six Degrees...' but since then I find most of their stuff really dull. None of it really sticks in my head at all.
More or less the same. There's a handful of decent songs sprinkled across their mid to late discography, but I'd still find more to enjoy in I&W, Awake, ACoS than the rest of discography combibed.
Rudess is a fucking snoozefest of a keyboard player too.
Dunno about the overall buzz, but I see the odd lad about Sligo in their early 20s wearing some metal tees.
One lad has Slowly We Rot one, another a Scream Bloody Gore. And there's another fella who I occasionally see in the local Golden Discs wearing a Carcass rain jacket (of all things!), so there's hope yet.
It was on this date in 1983 that Metallica, having travelled to New York to begin work on 'Kill Em All', shitcanned Dave Mustaine, and put him on a Greyhound bus to L.A.
And it was on that journey that he wrote the lyrics that would eventually find their way into this fucking stormer of a tune.
Whatever about Metallica cutting their hair....when Kerry Kings fell out he went to shit!
:abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :) :) :)
The site where Helvete used to be nearly burnt down apparently, bit of irony there....
https://loudwire.com/legendary-black-metal-site-norway-damaged-fire-helvete/
Yeah it was a bit of a shrine beneath it with a lot of the stuff saved from the Helvete days, it'd be a shame if that were all gone .
Oops, just saw the thread on this
Quote from: The Wretch on April 11, 2024, 02:20:26 PMQuote from: Necro Red on April 11, 2024, 01:59:14 PMthat is class! Good to hear that. Here in kilkenny there is fecking nobody into it at all. The last time I seen someone in a metal shirt it was tourist ha ha
There are a fair few bands here too. Not many of them are to my tastes admittedly, but I'm still happy to see it, as that hasn't been the case for decades, so it's good to see.
Parents and schools etc seem to be a bit more supportive of it now, and there are more places for them to practice and play.
When we started playing years ago it was a pain in the hole getting somewhere to play locally, and we used to have to practice in our drummers parent's front room, until we made a practice space in an old shed out the back of the house.
We used to play in Kilkenny the odd time years ago, sort of a basement bar, but I'm damned if I can remember the name. I do remember there were pipes just above the stage, and our singer gave himself concussion jumping up and clocking his head on them. Fuckin eejit was always doing something daft. He got thrown out of The Hub in Dublin for wrecking the jacks when he was drunk, they threw him out without his shoes and bag onto the street. He couldn't even get through to the rest of us on the phone, we were all getting shitfaced with the other bands.
that would be the Zoo xclub here in kk. It was a great spot. Is there a bit of a scene developing in Wexford at the moment?
Ah! That's it!
There seems to be a fair few young bands popping up at the minute, aye.
I wasn't sure where to put this, but I'm disgusted and flabbergasted. I don't remember reading anything about this before, did I miss it, or was it somehow kept quiet until the trial?
The horrible cunt. I cannot even fathom the mentality of someone who would do that to a 6 year old child. Well, to anyone, but especially when it's a literal kid.
I'm also gutted for more selfish reasons, he was one of the reasons I even picked up a bass in the first place.
Which I know means nothing compared to what the poor girl and her family have gone through, but you know what I mean, when someone has actually influenced you to play or whatever, it's a shock. You don't expect them to be saints or anything, but something like this is so vile.
https://metalinjection.net/news/founding-saxon-bassist-steve-dawson-sentenced-to-prison-over-sexually-assaulting-a-six-year-old-girl-in-the-90s (https://metalinjection.net/news/founding-saxon-bassist-steve-dawson-sentenced-to-prison-over-sexually-assaulting-a-six-year-old-girl-in-the-90s)
Scum.
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I've been watching a few Anthrax and Overkill live clips over the last day or two.
Aside from the more obvious tracks - Got The Time for example, ironically the song Bello uses a pick on - the Anthrax sound wasn't as affected as I would have expected by Lilker being there instead of Bello. I'm surprised actually, what with Bello having quite a "bouncy" style and being very present in the mix, that Lilker stepping in has been pretty seamless. But then, it hasn't really added anything either, like Newsted with Metallica, or Cliff Williams with AC/DC.
But the difference is definitely noticeable in Overkill without DD Verni. Dave Ellefson is one of the best in the game. Both he and Verni are pick players, both use active pick-ups etc, but that aggression and "clank" that DD has brought to Overkill since 'Under The Influence" is noticeably absent, and even though Ellefson does a fine job, it doesn't feel like Overkill.
Granted I'm just basing all of this on some youtube and instagram clips. But still, I definitely hear and feel the difference.
Putting together a compilation of Faith No More B-sides & rare tracks, I nabbed a couple of compilations to get a couple of tracks I didn't have, only to discover that I (kinda) did: New Improved Song is a Mosely-era demo of The Morning After, and The Perfect Crime is just a slicker rerecording of Sweet Emotion with different lyrics.
Now for ya.
John 5 is one of the dullest guitarists on earth, despite being incredibly technically accomplished. Not Polyphia level dull mind you, but every time I hear him play my brain switches of after 30 seconds.
Oh, and the new Motley Crue tune is utter shite. No surprise there.
Bejaysus. The new Smashing Pumpkins guitarist is certainly easier on the eye than aul slaphead and his usual crew of poindexters.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/smashing-pumpkins-kiki-wong-new-guitarist-1235011181/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/smashing-pumpkins-kiki-wong-new-guitarist-1235011181/)
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Who is she though? I googled her name and the first result was "Youtuber", which curdles the blood.
Apparently she was in a band called Vigil Of War, and does guitar covers and gear related stuff on youtube.
I've seen her shred on YouTube. She makes funny faces while playing which is... entertaining? Kind of like the equivalent of those violinists you see busking who make classical music cool and relevant by wearing a Hawaiian shirt, putting gel in their hair and jigging about and pointing their bow at the audience.
"See, classical music isn't just for squares!"
Quote from: The Wretch on April 26, 2024, 05:18:11 PMJohn 5 is one of the dullest guitarists on earth, despite being incredibly technically accomplished. Not Polyphia level dull mind you, but every time I hear him play my brain switches of after 30 seconds.
Oh, and the new Motley Crue tune is utter shite. No surprise there.
Agreed. 100% agreed. He's superbly co-ordinated but I can't think of a single song the cunt has played on which I'd ever like to hear again. Musically mediocre, no matter how fast he can widdle.
Blaze was jipped. You could have any fucking singer you want, Kiske, Halford, Ripper, Dio, Dickinson himself, whoever... nobody could've made the two non-Dickinson 90's albums into something listenable. The songs are fucking terrible. It's a sign of how crucial Smith is to Maiden being tolerable, just how shit the albums without him are. Davey's a cloud drifting happily along and Gers is hardly a strong presence either. Left to his own devices with no-one to raise his bar, Harris does not know the difference between good and shite. Blaze deseved better than Maiden.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 27, 2024, 05:17:04 PMQuote from: The Wretch on April 26, 2024, 05:18:11 PMJohn 5 is one of the dullest guitarists on earth, despite being incredibly technically accomplished. Not Polyphia level dull mind you, but every time I hear him play my brain switches of after 30 seconds.
Oh, and the new Motley Crue tune is utter shite. No surprise there.
Agreed. 100% agreed. He's superbly co-ordinated but I can't think of a single song the cunt has played on which I'd ever like to hear again. Musically mediocre, no matter how fast he can widdle.
Best description of him was "the most yessiest Yes man that ever picked up a guitar who wasn't a member of Yes"
:laugh:
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 27, 2024, 06:13:29 PMBlaze was jipped. You could have any fucking singer you want, Kiske, Halford, Ripper, Dio, Dickinson himself, whoever... nobody could've made the two non-Dickinson 90's albums into something listenable. The songs are fucking terrible. It's a sign of how crucial Smith is to Maiden being tolerable, just how shit the albums without him are. Davey's a cloud drifting happily along and Gers is hardly a strong presence either. Left to his own devices with no-one to raise his bar, Harris does not know the difference between good and shite. Blaze deseved better than Maiden.
There's quite a few songs I really like from the Blaze era, Man on the Edge, Clansman, Southern Cross, Lord of the Flies...I reckon there's one decent album in there
Blazes solo albums after he left thoughtl pisses over most of the dull, repetitive shite Maiden has been peddling the last 20 years
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 27, 2024, 06:13:29 PMLeft to his own devices with no-one to raise his bar, Harris does not know the difference between good and shite. Blaze deseved better than Maiden.
That is true now too, even with Smith and Dickinson involved. They can no longer tell the difference between stretching yourself, and just making overlong tracks. I mean, the repeat-the-same-line/title style choruses, the use of the slow, repetitive semi acoustic picked intro on every song on the second half of 'Senjutsu', it has all become so very predictable and dull.
They are too comfortable, becuase people will buy the albums regardless of quality, and because it's all the lads together with Shirley just hanging out and jamming or whatever.
There are always the seeds of great tunes, but nobody to tell them to edit things and make it more punchy and catchy, pick up the pace a bit more here and there, try something that is just a little different. And when fans do mention maybe wanting some shorter or more anthemic tracks, Steve will talk about prog or something, as if people don't get it, or haven't given things a chance.
But a song is not progressive if it goes nowhere, regardless of running time. I'd be happier if they were more progressive to be honest. Do something properly folky. Stick in some mad time signatures. A few more synths. Make an honest to goodness concept album. Just do something fucking different.
That sort of complacency sets in eventually I guess. Even with Accept. Their first few comeback albums were excellent. And most of what they have done since is solid and enjoyable, but again, one member is essentially in total charge now, and too comfortable working with Sneap.
But Accept don't quite need the same kick up the hole Harris and the boys do at this stage.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on April 27, 2024, 06:23:26 PMBest description of him was "the most yessiest Yes man that ever picked up a guitar who wasn't a member of Yes"
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 27, 2024, 06:13:29 PMYou could have any fucking singer you want, Kiske, Halford, Ripper, Dio, Dickinson himself, whoever... nobody could've made the two non-Dickinson 90's albums into something listenable. The songs are fucking terrible. It's a sign of how crucial Smith is to Maiden being tolerable, just how shit the albums without him are.
Disagree, X Factor has very strong songwriting, and IMO Sign Of The Cross is Maiden's best song.
Also on a related note it's hilarious how many people trash VXI and worship BNW while not realising that several songs on the latter album were actually held over from VXI.
Quote from: Cosmic_Equilibrium on April 28, 2024, 10:51:25 AMIMO Sign Of The Cross is Maiden's best song
Well there is a sentence I've never read before...
I get your point about Brave New World, but the delivery is just better than the Blaze albums. You can tell they put a lot more thought and effort in, they were obviously buoyed by the energy of Bruce and Adrian returning, and the general enthusiasm that created. And let's be honest, Bruce is just a much better singer, and not just in terms of his overall range.
But I like Blaze generally, and have done since the Wolfsbane days. And I enjoy a lot of the songs he made with Maiden. But those records were definitely flawed, much like the last few albums, where a lot of the tracks become too ponderous and in need of trimming, or when certain musical motifs are far too overused. It's unfair that Blaze takes all of the shit for that during his era though, when Steve was obviously steering the ship. Or that a lot of people now give them a pass for a lot of that stuff, when they crucified them for it during the mid - late 90's.
I don't really hate any of their albums BTW, I always find something positive in them, but Christ, they make it hard work sometimes.
But I mean, at the end of the day, you couldn't dislike them. And you have to root for them. It's Maiden innit?
My usual time with Maiden these last may years is...
1. Stick on a classic form the 80s, have a great time.
2. Stick on a post-2000 album, enjoy it, but get frustrated with the noodly bits.
3. Stick on a post-2010, and after five minutes of the piss-weak production and overt noodling, say "fuck it" and stick The Chemical Wedding on instead.
I've never really been a fan of John 5's image, but I enjoy his solo material. What's not to like about this playing?
Quote from: The Wretch on April 26, 2024, 05:18:11 PMPolyphia level dull
I wasn't aware of existence of Polyphia
until few weeks ago, when YouTube algorithm started feeding their videos to me for some reason. That's some elevator tunes from the Barbie World. The whole musical concept is so devoid of emotion and any true artistry it's actually incomprehensible to me how does one put so much time and effort into learning instrument and doesn't develop a pinch of good taste by accident.
Quote from: koper on April 28, 2024, 08:33:29 PMQuote from: The Wretch on April 26, 2024, 05:18:11 PMPolyphia level dull
I wasn't aware of existence of Polyphia
until few weeks ago, when YouTube algorithm started feeding their videos to me for some reason. That's some elevator tunes from the Barbie World. The whole musical concept is so devoid of emotion and any true artistry it's actually incomprehensible to me how does one put so much time and effort into learning instrument and doesn't develop a pinch of good taste by accident.
They are the very definition of pedestrian.
Quote from: Giggles on April 28, 2024, 07:59:22 PMI've never really been a fan of John 5's image, but I enjoy his solo material. What's not to like about this playing?
Well that is certainly more interesting than his electric playing. I'm not sure I'd bother with a full album of him playing in that style mind you (if one exists) but it isn't offensive. I'm not doubting his ability, it's just that most of his solo output, especially his lead playing - or at least what I've heard of it - bores me to tears.
And he hasn't brought anything particular interesting to the bands or artists he has worked with either. The new Motley Crue song is a perfect example. The song itself is shite anyway, but his solo is just there for the sake of having a solo, it doesn't add anything, and it isn't particularly interesting from either a technical or compositional perspective. Even with an artist I don't like I can hear a solo, or an instrumental part and think "yeah, that was impressive". But with him, I don't find anything remotely engaging, even though I can recognize that he is an accomplished player.
I guess it's a taste thing ultimately. And he seems a bit dull himself. Unlike say, a Paul Gilbert. I wouldn't be a massive fan of everything he has done, but I can admire him as a player, and I find him a likable and entertaining fellow.
Not sure if it's a compliment or insult to John5 to say "fuck it, I'm off to listen to some Paco De Lucia" after hearing that.
Quote from: The Wretch on April 28, 2024, 09:40:10 PMI guess it's a taste thing ultimately.
Probably. I enjoy a few of Polyphia's tunes myself :laugh:
Just saw a post from Obituary about the 'Metal Crushes All Tour' in the US and Canada, headlined by Amon Amarth.
I know AA are a big band in death metal terms, and have headlined above Obituary, Carcass etc before, but I was surprised to see Cannibal Corpse are supporting them, especially in the US. Would Cannibal not be a bigger act generally that AA? I mean, you always hear that they are the most successful DM band ever.
You would have thought in America especially that CC would headline. Has the AA bubble not burst yet? Clearly not.
I never really understood their appeal anyway. But I would have thought Cannibal Corpse would have headlined most death metal bills really.
AA is more palatable and more gimmicky so makes sense that they would headline. The venues are massive as well from any clips I've seen. They played Red Rocks, Colorado.
If Rock and Roll were in fact two gods, what would each of them look like?
Beavis and Butthead.
Johnny Cash and Little Richard.
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Is that Rock and Roll or Roll and Rock??
Rock and Roll would be a conjoined twin god. Rock would look like Dwayne The Rock Johnson and Roll would look like Dino Cazares.
All I can think of for roll is a chicken roll. Must be hungry!
Quote from: Anvil on May 03, 2024, 10:53:37 AMAll I can think of for roll is a chicken roll. Must be hungry!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbTc5WR7Lss
Dicky Rock and Henry Rollins. (Doing a punk-rock take on Joe Dolans version of Sweet Little Rock n Roller) (both topless).
I keep getting suggested live feeds of loads of lesbians cosplaying as the singer from Ghost on tiktok and was amazed to hear some of them talking about repugnant - now it makes sense why all the copies, even represses of Epitome of Darkness on discogs are going for hundreds. Also it looks like Soulseller still have the license for it, I don't know how they haven't released 100 variation to capitalise. Last repress was 2020.
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on May 03, 2024, 11:09:39 PMDicky Rock and Henry Rollins. (Doing a punk-rock take on Joe Dolans version of Sweet Little Rock n Roller) (both topless).
"Spit on me, Dicky!!"
There's a little bit of Hat in a lot of people I know...
Quote from: astfgyl on May 08, 2024, 02:22:10 PMQuote from: son of the Morrigan on May 03, 2024, 11:09:39 PMDicky Rock and Henry Rollins. (Doing a punk-rock take on Joe Dolans version of Sweet Little Rock n Roller) (both topless).
"Spit on me, Dicky!!"
Begod then, I will not spit on yer dicky, ya pup!
I met him years ago in a hotel and had a few words with him, he seemed like a nice fella. The whole time all that was going through my head was "Don't say it Morrigan, don't say it ya cunt".
We went our separate ways and about 5 seconds later I hear "Spit on me Dicky" being shouted out followed cheers of gleeful approval. The poor auld fucker must be plagued with it.
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on May 14, 2024, 12:21:17 AMQuote from: astfgyl on May 08, 2024, 02:22:10 PMQuote from: son of the Morrigan on May 03, 2024, 11:09:39 PMDicky Rock and Henry Rollins. (Doing a punk-rock take on Joe Dolans version of Sweet Little Rock n Roller) (both topless).
"Spit on me, Dicky!!"
Begod then, I will not spit on yer dicky, ya pup!
I met him years ago in a hotel and had a few words with him, he seemed like a nice fella. The whole time all that was going through my head was "Don't say it Morrigan, don't say it ya cunt".
We went our separate ways and about 5 seconds later I hear "Spit on me Dicky" being shouted out followed cheers of gleeful approval. The poor auld fucker must be plagued with it.
Such a thing to have following him around ffs :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
charlesreignblood.jpeg
I wonder how they ended up with that yoke. Is it that Charlo has no eye for art or is it that he had the artiste in his ear telling him it was a really bold and brave move, it would become a talking point (true there) and would make him appear hip and relevant? Or maybe he wants to present himself as the Prince of Darkness, the reincarnation of Vlad Tepes! Maybe he's aligning himself with Russia with the old blood red, or maybe it's a warning, hey Commies, don't fuck with da Blood King! Reprezent, niggaz!
Edit. Truth be told he probably sat for an hour or two and didn't see any of it until it was unveiled. Who was the artist? Is he considered important in his world?
Quote from: The Wretch on April 30, 2024, 09:22:16 PMJust saw a post from Obituary about the 'Metal Crushes All Tour' in the US and Canada, headlined by Amon Amarth.
I know AA are a big band in death metal terms, and have headlined above Obituary, Carcass etc before, but I was surprised to see Cannibal Corpse are supporting them, especially in the US. Would Cannibal not be a bigger act generally that AA? I mean, you always hear that they are the most successful DM band ever.
Amon Amarth have better management (think Mastodon/Slipknot's team) and the whole Viking thing is still kinda big worldwide.
The fella next door has just penned up lambs in his front garden for some reason. It's like having the needle stuck on the start of Legion out there :-\
:laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Thorn on May 17, 2024, 08:33:39 PMThe fella next door has just penned up lambs in his front garden for some reason. It's like having the needle stuck on the start of Legion out there :-\
There's a major arterial road in the Aussie city I'm in and last year one of the sights as you'd drive past in rush hour traffic was an Afgani with a stick in traditional attire tending a few old goats on "the long acre" (the side of the road). Twas like he was beamed out of a mountain on the Pak / Afghan border straight in to suburban Australia and couldn't give a fuck and was doing things same as his grandad taught him. Apart from enjoying the spectacle I was a bit jealous of him, truth be told haha
Jaysus, that's pretty random!
Lads will ye throw me a few places to pick up cds in Waterford? Charity shops even. Sound if ye have any
Never realised Bon Scott died in February 1980 and Back in Black came out only a few months later in July, thought there would be at least a year between his death and the next record, don't know if that's impressive or a bit fucked :laugh: .
They just wanted to keep going. Back In Black being released so soon after his death is the reason for all the rumours about him having written lyrics for it which the rest of the band still claim to this day that he didn't.
Quotesnake's breath
The band's name is Irish for snake's breath (anál nathrach) and was taken from Merlin's Charm of Making in John Boorman's 1981 film Excalibur.
Right, I've been pronouncing it wrong for over 20 years then. Very hit and miss band anyway. The vocals are the main reason for that. Anyway, came across that bit randomly so going to listen to an album and see
Glen Benton is the Dave Mustaine of death metal
Quote from: Necro Red on May 19, 2024, 12:43:10 PMGlen Benton is the Dave Mustaine of death metal
How so? Is it the also-ran status or is it that he is way too talented to be standing over such mediocre output?
Both would apply
Quote from: Necro Red on May 19, 2024, 12:43:10 PMGlen Benton is the Dave Mustaine of death metal
Glen's a Satanist and Dave is a Jesus freak. Do you mean Glen Benton is the inverted Dave Mustaine?
In terms of his big gob and the slurry that oozes out :laugh:
When reading old metal magazines from to 80's and 90's its kinda sobering to see how things panned out for certain bands. All piss and vinegar with paragraphs (and if lucky a full article) like "Upcoming rockers <enter band name here> release their debut EP/Album <enter EP/album name here> on <enter date here> followed by UK tour <enter tour dates here>, for them only to never make it big or self imploded a few years later...
At least it was the time before things dropped. Fucking loathe that term.
That's up there with the 'official video' thing.
I hate the term dropped and the term "shifted 6,000 units" as sales numbers for albums....
Shifted 6000 units is what happens when goth stud hits packed Fibbers.
Agree on the 'dropped' thing, more of a modern youtube generation thing but records being called 'projects' is another one.
A weird one from the 2000's was publications just calling albums cd's, 'Metallica will release their new cd next year' etc.
22 years since Ozzlessfest in Punchestown, can't remember why it was he didn't turn up
What a messy day that was :laugh:
I saw earlier that De Mysterious Dom Sathanas was released thirty years ago today.
Quote from: Trev on May 26, 2024, 11:05:37 AM22 years since Ozzlessfest in Punchestown, can't remember why it was he didn't turn up
If I had known how bad it was going to be I wouldn't have shown up either.
Quote from: Trev on May 26, 2024, 11:05:37 AM22 years since Ozzlessfest in Punchestown, can't remember why it was he didn't turn up
Saving himself for the queen's jubilee iirc. Saw a good few lads turning around and fucking off when it was announced. I was mad into Tool so I didn't mind but I can see why Ozzy fans wouldn't have much to get excited about in the lineup
This classic could have been a Manilla Road demo
One of the lads pointed out the similarites to Pagan Altar before so I'm more on that 😄
Haha yeah that's a better call :laugh:
Have ye ever watched any of Phil Thomas Katt's videos? He's also metal-as-fuck.
This one even features Mark Gormley in the background on guitar doing his Power Stance™ :abbath:
Edit - just checked Spotify, PKT has a 49 song compilation on Spotify. I've five hours on a bus tomorrow... fuck yeah.
Edit 2 - Mark Gormley is there too!
Quote from: open face surgery on May 27, 2024, 10:26:18 PMOne of the lads pointed out the similarites to Pagan Altar before so I'm more on that 😄
I thought maybe Ashbury, but yeah. It's a cool song.
Unexpected blast from the unchartered past here with Mark Gormley! :laugh: :abbath:
Anthrax members are weird as fuck. They can't turn up for their own gig half the time, but can tour with literally anyone else. I mean, Charlie playing with Pantera sort of makes sense to some degree, but who saw this coming?
https://blabbermouth.net/news/anthraxs-frank-bello-to-play-bass-for-satyricon-during-2024-european-festival-run (https://blabbermouth.net/news/anthraxs-frank-bello-to-play-bass-for-satyricon-during-2024-european-festival-run)
What's next, Nocturno Culto replaces Robbin Crosby in a RATT reunion? Joey DeMaio steps in for Justin Chancellor on the next Tool tour?
There have been some odd replacements/swaps etc in recent years. The weirdest for me was Bobby Gustafson joining Vio-lence, only for Phil Demmel to then go off and tour with Overkill.
When Bello left Anthrax the last time he joined Helmet.
Well, that made a bit more sense. Although I was glad when he went back to Anthrax, even though obviously Joey Vera is no slouch.
Didn't know where to put this, apparently it's old news now anyway:
Vanessa Warwick has an online rock/metal show on the go called Heavy Metal Heydaze, first I heard of it was a Facebook post by Saxon.
https://medium.com/@livinglifefearless/heavy-metal-heydaze-is-a-new-show-dedicated-to-fans-of-heavy-metal-rock-3ffd94c89591
Thought she was out of the game these days
She looks like she's on the game these days TBH.
Yeah, I thought the same but Saxon posted on Facebook that Biff was doung an interview with her, first I'd heard of it.
I keep seeing so many discogs sellers based in Greece records that are 10+ years old that say *MINT SEALED UNPLAYED* Is Greece just full of basements and storage lockers filled with sealed metal records in the hopes to flip them one day? I've seen so many that it doesn't make sense, are they just buying multiple copies at the time of release or are they just resealing them themselves? The records aren't even worth that much to seem worth it.
Holy Smoke was the lead single from No Prayer For The Dying even though it sounds like an obscure bside with demo production values...what the fucking fuck were they thinking?
Quote from: Carnage on June 06, 2024, 06:13:31 PMDidn't know where to put this, apparently it's old news now anyway:
Vanessa Warwick has an online rock/metal show on the go called Heavy Metal Heydaze, first I heard of it was a Facebook post by Saxon.
https://medium.com/@livinglifefearless/heavy-metal-heydaze-is-a-new-show-dedicated-to-fans-of-heavy-metal-rock-3ffd94c89591
She went into some property business but that's ended in some sort of controversy or something...I'm not sure...she was kinda hot back in the day but a lot of that was down to makeup...she could do with a good dinner nowadays..
Yeah, I YTed heydaze vanessa warwick the other day and the second result was some kind of property youtuber, bit of a wreck-the-head personality, accusing her of racism or something, I dunno I didn't get very far into it, but funny it was so high up in the results
It's easy to forget how important Headbangers Ball was back in the day, those 2-3 hours a week were a lifeline into metal..that and the Friday Rock show on BBC Radio..Tommy Vance RIP
Don't recall ever listening to a BBC rock show, missed out there, but for sure Headbangers Ball, Into The Pit, The Metal Show, ah, halcyon days of weekly mind-blowing injections of new metal :abbath:
Tommy Vance and Raw Power on late night ITV were the main ones for me. Born on the wrong side of the tracks to afford sky and MTV when I was young.
Wrong coast of the island maybe? Sky and MTV were free on the east coast at least. My ma would certainly never have paid out for them :laugh:
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 09, 2024, 03:02:31 PMWrong coast of the island maybe? Sky and MTV were free on the east coast at least. My ma would certainly never have paid out for them :laugh:
Too far north. Until channel 5 came along in 1995/6, we only had 4 channels.
Quote from: The Heretic on June 09, 2024, 11:00:10 AMQuote from: Carnage on June 06, 2024, 06:13:31 PMDidn't know where to put this, apparently it's old news now anyway:
Vanessa Warwick has an online rock/metal show on the go called Heavy Metal Heydaze, first I heard of it was a Facebook post by Saxon.
https://medium.com/@livinglifefearless/heavy-metal-heydaze-is-a-new-show-dedicated-to-fans-of-heavy-metal-rock-3ffd94c89591
She went into some property business but that's ended in some sort of controversy or something...I'm not sure...she was kinda hot back in the day but a lot of that was down to makeup...she could do with a good dinner nowadays..
Recall finding her on Twitter years ago complaining about tenants having too much rights and retweeting LinkedIn shite.
Quote from: Anvil on June 09, 2024, 02:54:11 PMTommy Vance and Raw Power on late night ITV were the main ones for me. Born on the wrong side of the tracks to afford sky and MTV when I was young.
Yeah I was constantly giving the cousin blank vhs tapes for Headbangers ball and anything was heavy.
Loving all the random YouTube pages where lads have uploaded old episodes of that &Noisy Mother's.
Awaken The Misogynist must be among the worst band titles ever.
"Bring out the misogynist."
"The misogynists sleeping"
"Well wake him up then!"
Regarding Holy Smokes by Iron Maiden... Loved it as a kid. Think I bought the single as well and played the death out of it on a rather shit radiogram we had much to the annoyance of the rest of the family. But I've always really liked No Prayer for the Dying. Got it on the day of release and was the third Maiden album I ever listened to (after Live after Death and 7th Son).
Quote from: Wilbur Whateley on June 10, 2024, 10:03:13 AMAwaken The Misogynist must be among the worst band titles ever.
"Bring out the misogynist."
"The misogynists sleeping"
"Well wake him up then!"
Is it even possible for there to be a woke misogynist?
Quote from: Anvil on June 10, 2024, 10:20:14 AMRegarding Holy Smokes by Iron Maiden... Loved it as a kid. Think I bought the single as well and played the death out of it on a rather shit radiogram we had much to the annoyance of the rest of the family. But I've always really liked No Prayer for the Dying. Got it on the day of release and was the third Maiden album I ever listened to (after Live after Death and 7th Son).
I love No Prayer and Fear Of The Dark. I never understood the criticism to be honest. They aren't on par with the 80's classics, but they are much better than people give them credit for.
In 1990 I was at the start of my journey and seeing Holy Smoke on The Beat Box every Sunday morning back then was incredibly exciting. The Maiden tapes I got back then were No Prayer, Seventh Son and Number of the Beast. But to be honest, back then I ended up as more of a fan of the album covers than the music. I was obsessed with Metallica and to my 8 year old ears the American accent was needed to make metal truly exotic and otherworldly. I think the English toff accent of Brucie was a bit of a turn off for me back then and the bands that really clicked were the American ones. But sure, America was the be all end all back then. It was the future!
I haven't heard No Prayer in decades at this stage so I should return to it and see if it's daycent. I think Fear of the Dark is deadly (probably ten years since I've listened to it actually!), so there's every chance No Prayer will hit the spot too.
No Prayer went too far into pub rock territory for my liking, even at the time it was a huge letdown. FOTD began to move back in the right direction but was still subpar. Bruce's vicals were generally poor across both too, with a couple of exceptions.
As for Holy Smoke, the cover of All In Your Mind on the B-side was better.
I don't mind the "pub rock" thing, it isn't far removed from a lot of the NWOBHM bands in that sense anyway, which is an era that I love. Not just Maiden, Saxon, Angelwitch, Diamond Head etc, but the boogie rock influenced stuff like Vardis, and the blues rock style of Nicky Moore era Samson.
I like the overall sound too. I love Somewhere In Time and Seventh Son, but the synths and all that had a limited shelf life. They needed to strip back and just go for something simple.
I'd kill for No Prayer and FOTD style songs from them now, instead of an album with too many over long tracks when they have the same slow, semi acoustic picked intro, repeat the title chorus etc like the entire second side of the last album.
They still have good ideas, but if they put those in a few more punchy, shorter hard rock style songs it wouldn't go amiss. Fair enough if they have an epic here and there, that is part of who they always were, I'll never forget the first time I saw them do 'Rime...' live. I still get goosebumps just thinking about it.
But I'd take another pub-rocky album, or tracks like 'Tailgunner' or even 'Holy Smoke' over the likes of 'The Parchment' any day.
Or the mentality that that making Empire Of The Clouds 18 minutes long is an achievement in itself becuase they like prog rock, failing to realise that it wasn't the running time that made Roundabout or Thick As A Brick progressive and exciting, it was the content and composition.
I just finished listening to No Prayer. A very mixed bag indeed. Some cool songs, some forgettable fluff and one or two surprising numbers. Assassin and Mother Russia are interesting. Mother Russia encapsulates the prog essence they have been failing to capture with those over long, repetitive songs they've been spilling out in recent decades, but it's short and snappy. Assassin is an odd one. Some really great riffs that aren't typically Maiden-esque to my ears, but then the vocals let it down a bit. Maybe they'd grow on me over time. Not a classic by any stretch but not a write off either.
Despite probably not having listened to NPFTD in at least 20 years, I still regularly sing the chorus to Mother Russia in head everytime I come across anything Russian. Be it on TV, a movie, the Ukraine war or a baldy drunkard swingging vodka in the local Lidl carpark.
Quote from: jobrok1 on June 10, 2024, 03:20:58 PMDespite probably not having listened to NPFTD in at least 20 years, I still regularly sing the chorus to Mother Russia in head everytime I come across anything Russian. Be it on TV, a movie, the Ukraine war or a baldy drunkard swingging vodka in the local Lidl carpark.
But can you be happy your people are freeeee? 😂
Been back listening to Anciients a fair bit since they announced the new album, keep thinking that they got the artwork mixed up for the first two albums. I'd have thought Heart of Oak should have had the woodland creature type cover, that slightly resembles a heart, and Voice of the Void should be the spacey fella with a big void for a head
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Also a fan of FotD, No Prayer not so much.
It also helps that FotD was one of my first Maiden albums, and I only ever had a rickety tape copy of No Prayer (and this was after my proxy of a Mini Disc recorder, so g'luck to any tapes getting used).
Shout out to one of the lads who wondered why Bruce had a "fear of the dog" :laugh:
Quote from: Ducky on June 11, 2024, 09:07:17 PMShout out to one of the lads who wondered why Bruce had a "fear of the dog" :laugh:
I have a constant fear that Rovers always near
What the fuck were Amorphis thinking when they released that cover of Light My Fire?!
It's appalling, but isn't as bad as the death metal version of I Am The Walrus I heard on The Metal Show one night. Dunno who it was by, I was on a bus and missed the intro but fucking hell...
I've been to Berlin a good few times over the last few years. It's still a very odd city with the mix of imperial, fascist, communist and now capitalist architecture, all in one place. There are still many areas where the legacy of the war and then the wall make for a very odd vibe in a city in 2024. It's very different to other cities.
It must have been fucking surreal for non-German bands, who were signed to Noise in the 80's, to find themselves in the little island of West Berlin when they came over to record. The likes of Voivod or Watchtower, in particular, recording in Hansa or Skytrak, close to the wall, towers and death strip, penned in by the wall, must have made for a total fucking brain melt which must surely have had some sort of influence on them. Just to be dropped into this mental environment which was normal to the lads working in the studio, and then fly back out again... it must have been mental.
Quote from: Carnage on June 12, 2024, 12:05:59 PMIt's appalling, but isn't as bad as the death metal vetsion of I Am The Walrus I heard on The Metal Show one night. Dunno who it was by, I was on a bus and missed the intro but fucking hell...
Was it Ten Masked Men by any chance? Maybe they were after the demise of the Metal Show I might be remembering something like Total Rock Radio on the old Sky Box
Dunno, this would have been in the mid-to-late '90s.
I have literally no concept of what 'sludge metal' is and I'm confused by what it means or the type of music it refers to?
Its one of those weird ones which used to mean the New Orleans thing like Crowbar and Eyehategod, but was also used for bands as different as Grief and Buzzoven.
And then it was Iron Monkey and the like.
Now it seems to be used for everything from High On Fire to Neurosis, to shoegazey bollocks.
It is almost as overused and incorrectly used as "stoner metal".
Melvins, then Crowbar and EHG, then it mushroomed.
https://youtu.be/amWKVFY40Xs?si=yOGo1CJzRpNT2b8O
https://youtu.be/9Zwvcek7og4?si=SW0we5Q6F3U-tjeD
Yep, it has certainly changed from meaning something very heavy, slow and often completely fucking filthy to including literally any band with members who have beards and tattoos.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on June 13, 2024, 05:33:17 PMI've been to Berlin a good few times over the last few years. It's still a very odd city with the mix of imperial, fascist, communist and now capitalist architecture, all in one place. There are still many areas where the legacy of the war and then the wall make for a very odd vibe in a city in 2024. It's very different to other cities.
It must have been fucking surreal for non-German bands, who were signed to Noise in the 80's, to find themselves in the little island of West Berlin when they came over to record. The likes of Voivod or Watchtower, in particular, recording in Hansa or Skytrak, close to the wall, towers and death strip, penned in by the wall, must have made for a total fucking brain melt which must surely have had some sort of influence on them. Just to be dropped into this mental environment which was normal to the lads working in the studio, and then fly back out again... it must have been mental.
I only have a couple of Noise Records releases but I'm intrigued by this. Am I imagining that there was a book released about Noise Records?
You're not imagining it - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34673846-damn-the-machine---the-story-of-noise-records
Haven't read it myself so I can't comment on whether it covers the culture shock experienced by US bands.
Have it, he touches on it very briefly in the Watchtower section, but more in the way that they had never been out of Texas, US lads abroad for the first time, that kind of thing, not specifically the effect of the unnatural bubble of West Berlin.
Nice. Might be worth picking that up at some point.
For some reason, this Five Will Die interview that I saw 13 years ago popped into my head. Bag of Cans Barry is some lad.
Working along to some classical music here, next thing I know my brain screeches out "You're possessing me!" :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DL5YpEobO0&t=347s
Quote from: Bürggermeister on June 14, 2024, 09:22:33 AMHave it, he touches on it very briefly in the Watchtower section, but more in the way that they had never been out of Texas, US lads abroad for the first time, that kind of thing, not specifically the effect of the unnatural bubble of West Berlin.
I always wondered did the location they recorded in have any influence on the lyrics or sleeve to Control and Resistance.
Coincidence that Metal Hammer put up the following retrospective on Voivod in Germany
https://www.loudersound.com/features/voivod-dimension-hatross-story-behind-album
New Portrait imminent!!I
Just gone up on yt
14 tracks, 74+ mins , bloody hell that's offputting, hope they haven't caught the Maiden bug.
Wasn't overly taken with Burn the World but always interested in listening to new material from them. Crossroads would be at least a top 20 metal album for me, and the earlier ones are great too.
Ah I'm gonna have to pound this into me repeatedly over the weekend but seriously a band in the style of Portrait, just give us 4 tracks side A ,4 tracks side B and the likes of me won't be stressing it.
Crossroads top twenty of all time? That's a call!
Yeah, I think it's a masterpiece, a total standout, absolutely zero filler, dripping in atmosphere, some of the best vocals ever put down, so dynamic in its heaviness. Gah, I just love it :laugh: :abbath:
Don't get me wrong I do love the album but when push comes to shove..well, I don't think Portrait are a Top Twenty album of all time band for me but I'll definitely have to dig it out again now..
Actually no, I'll have enough to contend with getting my head around the new one!
Haha, that's fair enough. I'll be giving the new one a listen tomorrow but will have to throw on Crossroads again tonight, now that I'm after getting my mind watering thinking about it :laugh:
I must check out Crossroads. The change of singer was so disappointing to me back then that I just couldn't compute, but maybe enough time has passed now for me to get over it. But probably not. NEVER FORGET!
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 20, 2024, 09:42:11 PMWasn't overly taken with Burn the World but always interested in listening to new material from them. Crossroads would be at least a top 20 metal album for me, and the earlier ones are great too.
Top 20 you say? I hated Crimen Laesae when it came out and have gone back to it every so often and does nothing for me, will give this a lash later :abbath:
Crossroads is the one that got me into them, which is why I could never understand why loads of folk said they couldn't get into it because of the change of singer: I think he's better :abbath: But yeah I do think top 20 for me, in a ranking where, for comparison, Conspiracy and Painkiller would be in top 10.
Just stuck Still Life by Opeth on this morning and I can't help but to ponder why it doesn't get the credit it perhaps deserves. Possibly my favourite Opeth release (also was my first, which is probably why it is my favourite) but I have often thought is an overlooked album in their discography.
Imagine, allowing for the language barrier, if Sepultura had called 'Beneath the Remains' 'Below the Remains'. I wonder if we would think it sounded cool or like a missed opportunity.
There's no album that can't be made cooler with a Mass Hippy-No-Sis on it
Quote from: Anvil on July 10, 2024, 09:09:20 AMJust stuck Still Life by Opeth on this morning and I can't help but to ponder why it doesn't get the credit it perhaps deserves. Possibly my favourite Opeth release (also was my first, which is probably why it is my favourite) but I have often thought is an overlooked album in their discography.
It's my favourite too. Or at least it was until In Cauda Venenum came out, which could well now be my favourite from them.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 10, 2024, 09:23:50 AMQuote from: Anvil on July 10, 2024, 09:09:20 AMJust stuck Still Life by Opeth on this morning and I can't help but to ponder why it doesn't get the credit it perhaps deserves. Possibly my favourite Opeth release (also was my first, which is probably why it is my favourite) but I have often thought is an overlooked album in their discography.
It's my favourite too. Or at least it was until In Cauda Venenum came out, which could well now be my favourite from them.
Strangely not heard that one yet, think I got bored of their newer stuff quite quickly
Must check it out.
Go for the Swedish language version. Don't know why exactly, but really adds to it.
Quote from: Anvil on July 10, 2024, 09:09:20 AMJust stuck Still Life by Opeth on this morning and I can't help but to ponder why it doesn't get the credit it perhaps deserves. Possibly my favourite Opeth release (also was my first, which is probably why it is my favourite) but I have often thought is an overlooked album in their discography.
My Arms, Your Hearse is my favourite, but Still Life is really close to it. Still Life is also home to my two favourite Opeth songs, namely Godhead's Lament, and Moonlapse Vertigo.
Never quite understood why Blackwater Park was raved about instead of Still Life; always found that Blackwater Park sags in the middle.
The two opening songs on Blackwater Park are unreal. The rest never really grabbed me.
Pretty much. The title track is a whopper too, but it's the last track on the album and you've the other five tracks of filler to get through first.
Opeth bore my tits off for the most part.
And I'm generally a big fan of the kind of classic prog stuff Akerfeldt cites as an influence, so the idea of mixing that with metal is certainly appealing, but aside from a some of the tracks on the earlier albums, they really do nothing for me.
I'd rather listen to the stuff he did with Bloodbath to be honest.
I think I was a bit more enamored with them when I was younger and hearing Still Life for the first time as I heard that before any old school prog rock.
And also before I heard Camel, as Akerfedlt's lead playing borrows heavily from Andy Latimer and it became a lot less distinct to my ears after sitting through Mirage and Moonmadness.
I dropped off them hard after Watershed as the songwriting had simply evaporated, though I might revisit the latest one after BSC's praise :abbath:
Speaking of Opeth, why does it still feel wrong to me when I see a metal player with a PRS guitar?
Apologies to anyone here who owns one, but they just scream "boring cunt" to me. I know that is probably an illogical reaction in 2024, but I don't think they will ever seem cool or metal.
Never had one but used to want a PRS more than anything :laugh: Anyone else remember the beautiful emerald green one they had up behind the counter in Music Maker?
I know John Christ used one on the first Danzig, which is mint, but I just can't bring myself to think of them as a metal guitar. Even though they are obviously high quality instruments.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 10, 2024, 11:08:49 PMNever had one but used to want a PRS more than anything :laugh: Anyone else remember the beautiful emerald green one they had up behind the counter in Music Maker?
I remember it well :laugh:
I knew a lad in the early 90's whose da was a popular enough Irish songwriter, bought the guy a PRS which, since he was a singer-songwriter type, strung it up with fucking thick cables rather than strings, almost pulled the trem out of the body. He had no idea about setups. The action was about an inch off the fretboard. I still weep thinking about that lovely guitar suffering with yer man strumming the oul four chords on it.
Loved Opeth up to and including Watershed, but no interest in the 70s prog imitation stuff
Picked up Heritage and Pale Communion when they came out, some ok stuff but nothing I feel like going back to
I like the PRS too but yeah , it's not a very rock n roll looking guitar.
Heritage falls flat a bit, but I think Pale Communion is great. Both albums I only really listened to properly after getting pulled back in by In Cauda Venenum.
Also, I don't get this PRS not being rock-looking guitars thing. Just pretend you never saw those late 90s Santana music videos! :laugh:
They always looked like they were made by bespoke furniture makers to me. Impressive craftsmanship.
But not a whiff of steel about them.
I can only presume Sepultura have a whole new fan base now for the most part? Nothing they have done in the last 30 odd years seems all that interesting to me, no matter how many chances I give them. I can't imagine anyone raised on the early albums would choose most of these tracks for any setlist.
https://www.loudersound.com/features/10-songs-sepultura-need-to-play-before-they-retire
Saw them touring BTR in the Top Hat, find much to love before Roots and from Roorback onwards and have seen them play pretty much all those songs with Derrick over the years. Baffling article, given how Metal Hammer very clearly chose Camp Cavalera and slated Sepultura at almost every opportunity after the split up until recently.
They're genuinely one of the few bands from the 80's whose output after about 1993 I would miss were it to disappear. Them, Voivod and Anthrax, I reckon, are the only ones who come to mind where the latter stuff stayed interesting to this day. They didn't sound the same as the used to, of course, but evolved in an interesting and original way.
I can't get into them at all really. I do like Derek's voice to be fair, but their music does fook all for me. I imagine they give a good account of themselves live mind you. And they are way better than anything the Cavalera's have managed. And I saw Cavalera Conspiracy at Graspop once and they were dull as dishwater.
And sadly I saw Soulfly at Ozzfest years ago. Absolute horseshit. One of the most insufferable performances ever. I did meet Max when were passing his hotel though, and he was a lovely fella.
Agreed on Voivod. I didn't think I'd enjoy them without Piggy but the quality of their music has largely been really good, and they have kept my attention.
Anthrax I find a little bit hit and miss, but when they get it right, they can still surprise. Even the post SOWN Bush albums have some great tunes, even if they were pretty far from thrash. I saw them live with him a few times too, and they were pretty damn impressive.
Plus Worship Music is maybe the best big 4 related album of the last 30 odd years, and one of the best modern thrash albums in general.
For me Spitz leaving was a bigger issue than the change of vocalist. Most underrated player of the 80's IMO. They have never managed to replace him really.
Give Machine Messiah a go. It's the post-Max album that first gave me pause for thought as to their standing as a worthy creative force in their own right. I've since listened to other stuff from them and found quality in plenty of places, even if rarely if never reaching the heights of BtR or the best of Arise.
I'll give it a listen sure.
Speaking of Sepultura, I've been considering buying that Andreas Kisser Jackson.
Not the Santana signature PRS?? :laugh:
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 11, 2024, 11:09:09 AMNot the Santana signature PRS?? :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I'll give that a miss. And anything Santana related generally.
Quote from: The Wretch on July 11, 2024, 02:18:45 AMI can only presume Sepultura have a whole new fan base now for the most part? Nothing they have done in the last 30 odd years seems all that interesting to me, no matter how many chances I give them. I can't imagine anyone raised on the early albums would choose most of these tracks for any setlist.
https://www.loudersound.com/features/10-songs-sepultura-need-to-play-before-they-retire
Quote from: The Wretch on July 11, 2024, 09:36:04 AMI can't get into them at all really. I do like Derek's voice to be fair, but their music does fook all for me. I imagine they give a good account of themselves live mind you. And they are way better than anything the Cavalera's have managed. And I saw Cavalera Conspiracy at Graspop once and they were dull as dishwater.
And sadly I saw Soulfly at Ozzfest years ago. Absolute horseshit. One of the most insufferable performances ever. I did meet Max when were passing his hotel though, and he was a lovely fella.
Agreed on Voivod. I didn't think I'd enjoy them without Piggy but the quality of their music has largely been really good, and they have kept my attention.
Anthrax I find a little bit hit and miss, but when they get it right, they can still surprise. Even the post SOWN Bush albums have some great tunes, even if they were pretty far from thrash. I saw them live with him a few times too, and they were pretty damn impressive.
Plus Worship Music is maybe the best big 4 related album of the last 30 odd years, and one of the best modern thrash albums in general.
For me Spitz leaving was a bigger issue than the change of vocalist. Most underrated player of the 80's IMO. They have never managed to replace him really.
Quote from: The Wretch on July 11, 2024, 09:36:04 AMFor me Spitz leaving was a bigger issue than the change of vocalist. Most underrated player of the 80's IMO. They have never managed to replace him really.
Wasn't Spitz using PRS guitars when he rejoined for the anniversary tour?😂
Think Jon Donais's been a good fit for Anthrax so far as Shadow's Fall did have a bit of the 'thrax to their sound.
Sadly yes he was using PRS! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: And they looked awful. He switched to Dean and then Caparison I think.
Donais is a decent player alright. As was Caggiano to be fair. And Paul Crook is solid too as it happens. I'm not knocking any of those guys really. But Spitz leads were all so memorable, and he was one of those players whose work really elevated the songs to another level.
It's a shame that project with Mustaine didn't work out. I know he was still involved in the Red Lamb album as a co-producer, but it felt like half finished ideas for the most part. Had they collaborated more closely it had the potential to be something really good.
In fairness the TMNT guitar was kinda cool!
Quote from: Sworntothecans on July 11, 2024, 11:53:47 AMIn fairness the TMNT guitar was kinda cool!
The original Jackson Rhoads TMNT was the business. And the Fantastic Four one too.
Just watching one of those videos where they go up to random people and be like "can you name 3 songs of the band on your shirt" fuck if I was put on the spot like that I probably couldn't name 3 Metallica songs let alone anything else.
Quote from: Mithrandir on July 15, 2024, 08:32:05 AMJust watching one of those videos where they go up to random people and be like "can you name 3 songs of the band on your shirt" fuck if I was put on the spot like that I probably couldn't name 3 Metallica songs let alone anything else.
I'd be the same. I'm wearing a Deathwish t-shirt this morning. I know they are from England, have two albums from the late 80s (maybe early 90s) one I have on vinyl and one I have on CD. Demon Peacher (CD) and At the Edge of Damnation (LP). Both bought of eBay in the early 00s. Have a t-shirt of both albums. Demon Peacher may not fit anymore as I have gotten alot fatter.
Posted about them on both the old forum and this one. Remember Rich Walker and Alan Averill both loving them, I think I have even seen AA in a Demon Peacher T-shirt but I can't think of any song names bar the obvious...
I really do hate my brain sometimes.
Ah sure, when your collection gets to a certain point it's impossible to remember all that shite. Add in the effects of the passage of time on the grey matter... not a hope.
I love Asmoodeus's vocals on the early Mystifier albums. I love how almost every line of lyrics is too long to make it in any way rhythmically pleasing so he just rips into it as quickly as he can even though the music is often slow. It sounds fucking savage.
Also, Wagner Antichrist's vocals on INRI are evil as hell with the mix of straight up attacking style, whispers and pitch shifted vomits. See also Nuclear Holocausto Vengeance on Drawing Down the Moon for the same. Nasty.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 11, 2024, 12:23:44 AMI like the PRS too but yeah , it's not a very rock n roll looking guitar.
Had one of the cheaper ones, worst guitar I've ever had.
Why so? I've never played one.
Ever thought you needed to read an article explaining the order of release of Metallica albums ? Look no further:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/entertainment/article/metallica-albums/
Clickbait reaches a new low.
Quoteno other band in heavy music wields the same number of masterfully crafted albums
Pretty sure there's plenty of bands with four or more decent records :laugh:
QuoteMetallica's tour bus skid on a patch of ice
They didn't even bother proof-reading this piece of shit article.
Shocking, it should read "Metallica's tour bus skid on a patch of ice, yo".
It should read "Metallica's tour bus SKIDDED on a patch of ice, but unfortunately Lars Ulrich survived."
Metallica's tour bus skied on a patch of ice?
Quote from: Ducky on July 22, 2024, 10:20:41 PMQuoteno other band in heavy music wields the same number of masterfully crafted albums
Pretty sure there's plenty of bands with four or more decent records :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Surely if anyone deserves that accolade, it is Motorhead? They wielded what, 5, or maybe 6 times as many "masterfully crafted" albums as Metallica, and over a period almost 40 years. No St Angers, no 'Some Kind Of Monsters' very little in the way of pure cringe...
Quote from: The Wretch on July 23, 2024, 03:42:06 PMQuote from: Ducky on July 22, 2024, 10:20:41 PMQuoteno other band in heavy music wields the same number of masterfully crafted albums
Pretty sure there's plenty of bands with four or more decent records :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Surely if anyone deserves that accolade, it is Motorhead? They wielded what, 5, or maybe 6 times as many "masterfully crafted" albums as Metallica, and over a period almost 40 years. No St Angers, no 'Some Kind Of Monsters' very little in the way of pure cringe...
It's a wild article, no doubt written who only has a cursory knowledge of popular music, let alone more underground wares (not that Motorhead are underground, but you know what I mean).
Your second point leads to what could be a counter article - very few popular bands have managed to plumb depths as low as Some Kind of Monster (or St. Anger, or Lulu). Imagine Kerry King sitting around talking about his feelings :laugh:
I'd watch that movie. It could be called Help Awaits, or Therapy Sessions in the Abyss.
Apparently Gojira are playing at the Olympics opening ceremony tonight, that's fairly mad.
There's also an absolute deluge forecast :-X
Quote from: ldj on July 26, 2024, 11:01:43 AMApparently Gojira are playing at the Olympics opening ceremony tonight, that's fairly mad.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 26, 2024, 11:09:03 AMThere's also an absolute deluge forecast :-X
L'eau font sauvage
That was an unexpected sight to see them there, shame they had that opera singer going over them
Quote from: Count Magnus on July 24, 2024, 09:46:07 AMI'd watch that movie. It could be called Help Awaits, or Therapy Sessions in the Abyss.
"Help Awaits" genuinely made me crack up. Kudos Sir, kudos.
I don't know much about hardcore, but am I right in thinking it's the trendy/cool thing to listen to at the moment or am I just seeing more of it than before? I've never seen so many people in real tree/camo caps talking about "crowd killing and 2 stepping in the pit". It seems the same people think they're somewhat unique by listening to Speed and Knocked loose but seems like the biggest bandwagon thing currently?
Quote from: Mithrandir on July 27, 2024, 10:13:01 AMI don't know much about hardcore, but am I right in thinking it's the trendy/cool thing to listen to at the moment or am I just seeing more of it than before? I've never seen so many people in real tree/camo caps talking about "crowd killing and 2 stepping in the pit". It seems the same people think they're somewhat unique by listening to Speed and Knocked loose but seems like the biggest bandwagon thing currently?
It's got a bit of a push via tiktok in the last 18 months and the NYT/Guardian wrote two daft articles about it, so there's a bit of bandwagon jumping going on.
Same treatment as black
metal/punk/metal got. Scene tourists take a look rob some of the aesthetics,old heads get into arguments about "gatekeeping", the tourists get frightened at a live gig and hopefully fuck off.
Speed are great craic though.
They're rapid.
Quote from: The Wretch on July 26, 2024, 10:14:30 PMQuote from: Count Magnus on July 24, 2024, 09:46:07 AMI'd watch that movie. It could be called Help Awaits, or Therapy Sessions in the Abyss.
"Help Awaits" genuinely made me crack up. Kudos Sir, kudos.
:laugh: I was going to add At Dawn They Speak About Their Feelings, but thought better of it.
Good for Eloy Cassagrande that he's using his considerable talent to (presumably) make some decent cash for himself playing in Slipknot, but bums as a listener that his considerable talent is now in Slipknot.
Yeah, great talent wasted in kiddie metal. Hopefully they split up soon and he joins a grown-up band again. He won't have any shortage of options.
Kiddie metal or not, they're 3 for 3 for having excellent drummers.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on July 29, 2024, 11:05:07 AMKiddie metal or not, they're 3 for 3 for having excellent drummers.
And unceremoniously dumped two of them, Eloy better keep his options open!
Quote from: Trev on July 29, 2024, 12:30:16 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on July 29, 2024, 11:05:07 AMKiddie metal or not, they're 3 for 3 for having excellent drummers.
And unceremoniously dumped two of them, Eloy better keep his options open!
Yeah, Clown & Corey do seem to be rather cunty when it comes to business.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on July 27, 2024, 12:02:15 PMQuote from: Mithrandir on July 27, 2024, 10:13:01 AMI don't know much about hardcore, but am I right in thinking it's the trendy/cool thing to listen to at the moment or am I just seeing more of it than before? I've never seen so many people in real tree/camo caps talking about "crowd killing and 2 stepping in the pit". It seems the same people think they're somewhat unique by listening to Speed and Knocked loose but seems like the biggest bandwagon thing currently?
It's got a bit of a push via tiktok in the last 18 months and the NYT/Guardian wrote two daft articles about it, so there's a bit of bandwagon jumping going on.
Same treatment as black
metal/punk/metal got. Scene tourists take a look rob some of the aesthetics,old heads get into arguments about "gatekeeping", the tourists get frightened at a live gig and hopefully fuck off.
Speed are great craic though.
It's grand lads, the His Hero is Gone lps are still in print, no need for the gym wear stuff. :laugh:
Having said that, the Speed song with the flute in it is highly entertaining. Terrible band otherwise.
Hardcore exists in many forms, the fact this facet of it is getting attention is grand, it'll fuck off again in time.
It's fun seeing the scene gatekeepers getting having a moan about it online.
Same amount of pearl clutching as the black metal lads had when Vice were saying Liturgy were kvlt & trve 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you're referring to me there I'm certainly no scene gatekeeper at this stage, little to no involvement in that or any other scene bar as a listener nowadays,none of my business what younger people are into, so take my comments as firmly tongue in cheek.
Unless you want to talk about power violence..I'll gatekeep that shit all day long :laugh:
No calling out there and definitely knew it was tongue in cheek😂.
But definitely seen a few bits in insta over the last few months where there's a lot of folks getting pissy about Turnstile/Drain/Scowl etc bringing non 'core folks to the shows. It's all a bit silly.
Waiting for Spazz & Charles Bronson to get discovered by Tik Tokkers now 😂
I love how the entire atmosphere of Be My Druidess switches from upbeat pop to dark vampiricism when Steele sings, "I'll do anything to make you cum". It's so fucking cold and evil sounding. Genius.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 04, 2024, 12:57:56 AMI love how the entire atmosphere of Be My Druidess switches from upbeat pop to dark vampiricism when Steele sings, "I'll do anything to make you cum". It's so fucking cold and evil sounding. Genius.
That section doesn't get praised enough. It's magic. I know Pink Floyd aren't your thing but the only other such dramatic shift in atmosphere I've heard is Goodbye Blue Sky.
I'll give it a whirl.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 04, 2024, 12:57:56 AMI love how the entire atmosphere of Be My Druidess switches from upbeat pop to dark vampiricism when Steele sings, "I'll do anything to make you cum". It's so fucking cold and evil sounding. Genius.
And it's coming to October Rust listening time of year as well, the only good thing about August...
Had it on myself two nights ago and was thinking again how great the lyrics are. The constantly evocative swing between doom and whimsy, dominance and submission, just perfection.
I listen to October Rust pretty much all year round but it does have an extra sparkle in autumn for some reason.
It's one of the handful of albums that I think might be the best ever when I have it on
Quote from: astfgyl on August 04, 2024, 10:15:43 PMIt's one of the handful of albums that I think might be the best ever when I have it on
I have that exact experience but that goes for Type O in general.
It's one of the greatest albums ever for me and I count myself so so lucky for having seeing them in the SFX on that tour.
I actually met Pete Steele on South Williams St on the Friday of that weekend. It was around 4.30.
I was working in Peacock Alley.
We were standing outside on a cigarette break and one of my colleagues said " look at the size of that cunt" He had the black Lemmy style hat peaked hat, green army style t shirt and leather pants. Stood out like a sore thumb.
I knew who it was and went over giggling like a child and he was quite polite and talkative. I was like a fanboy and basically told him I thought he was the second coming.
He asked about a good place for local pussy.
I'm not joking. I gave directions to Bruxelles saying of there was women there they would know who he was.
Dunno if he got his hole as he never thanked me from the stage.
Unreal album. I think I ever so slightly prefer Bloody Kisses, but throwing one or the other one the hi-fi is like thinking "will I take the Porsche or Ferrari out to the country house this weekend" :laugh:
Probably had the best pop sensibilities in all of metal, and one of the few that knew how to make a cover song their own as well.
Bloody Kisses is just brilliant as well. I used to think it was more cut and dried that OR was the better of them, and it still just shades it for me but Bloody Kisses has really aged fantastically as well. Think I'll throw that one on today while I'm off spinning in the car
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Reads more like the Gofundme is to buy Steve a new iPad 8)
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Storm of the Gobshite's Bane.
Cunt.
That Ambassador thread made me reach for The System Has Failed. Without having fully explored any of the ones after it, would anyone defend any of them being as good as or better than System? I tend to take it to be the best post-Youthanasia album (better than Cryptic Writings, Risk, or World Needs A Hero imo), but maybe I'm missing out on a gem..?
United Abominations is where I hopped off the Megadeth train. Utterly disposable. I somehow own a copy of Thirteen but it is fucking shite. Don't waste your time, money or emotional energy.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 08, 2024, 10:51:07 PMThat Ambassador thread made me reach for The System Has Failed. Without having fully explored any of the ones after it, would anyone defend any of them being as good as or better than System? I tend to take it to be the best post-Youthanasia album (better than Cryptic Writings, Risk, or World Needs A Hero imo), but maybe I'm missing out on a gem..?
I'm a big fan of System, and honestly enjoyed Endgame just as much. Easily their best two outside the classics. There's a few dud songs on it (including The Hardest Part of Letting Go sure was a choice), but it's mostly a worthwhile spin. Like if they threw Bite the Hand, Head Crusher, or How the Story Ends into a live set I wouldn't be upset by their inclusion.
The last record was halfway decent as well. Your man Kiko is (was) their best lead player since Friedman. We'll Be Back in particular has a decent bite to it.
Might stick Endgame on over brekkie now :abbath:
There isn't a decent albums worth of songs after Youthanasia. The System Has Failed has 3, maybe 4 songs, same goes for Cryptic Writings. I like Washington Is Next although it's a total Wasted Years ripoff. Never got the love for Endgame with the exception of the song with the bass intro lifted from Alice In Chains - Would. I sadly also have 13 and there is nothing there at all. I've skimmed through the others and even the lauded Dystopia is total shite.
Dystopia is the only one I've heard after TSHF, given all the hype around it I got curious. And it's grand, but you're missing absolutely nothing if you never bother with it
I thought Endgame was decent when it was released, but as said above I find a lot of the newer stuff throw away. Dystopia wasn't terrible, some good playing on it to be fair
I remember enjoying some tunes off of United Abominations when it came out: Washington is Next, and the solo to Burnt Ice.
Apparently the Jap version has a cover of Out on the Tiles, you being a big Zep Head and all. I've not listened to it though.
Quote from: The Great Cull on August 09, 2024, 08:38:00 AMThere isn't a decent albums worth of songs after Youthanasia.
Rust In Peace I'd have said. At least half of CTE and Youthanasia is subpar filler to my ears, and after those two there're two or three decent tracks
at most per album.
Disclaimer: I haven't heard the most recent one and only gave Dystopia one cursory listen at the time so they might buck the trend, but I really doubt it.
Quote from: Giggles on August 09, 2024, 02:18:20 PMApparently the Jap version has a cover of Out on the Tiles, you being a big Zep Head and all. I've not listened to it though.
Sound, I'll give it a listen. Although, if there's one thing Megadeth never did well, even at their peak, it's covers :laugh:
Also, random thought this morning on the same theme: we're now as far from Dave singing about "back in the day" as he was from "the day" when he was singing about it in 2004! :) :-\
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 09, 2024, 02:42:55 PMif there's one thing Megadeth never did well, even at their peak, it's covers
No More Mr. Nice Guy aside, this is true. Their version of Paranoid is particularly bad.
As much as I love the sound of Megadeth, he covers on the first three albums always put a dent against them in the whole Metallica/Slayer/Megadeth argument, just totally unnecessary, imagine sticking I Ain't Superstitious smack bang in the middle of Master of Puppets or Reign in Blood? Madness.
Fuck it, this is a banger of a tune :abbath:
Quote from: Carnage on August 09, 2024, 03:21:08 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 09, 2024, 02:42:55 PMif there's one thing Megadeth never did well, even at their peak, it's covers
No More Mr. Nice Guy aside, this is true. Their version of Paranoid is particularly bad.
No More Mr.Nice Guy is almost as bad as I Ain't Superstitious. 2 total abominations. At least Anarchy and These Boots had some piss and vinegar about them. ...Superstitious in particular ruins an otherwise perfect album.
Regarding the filler on CTE onwards, the rot was indeed setting in (Psychotron, Sweating Bullets and Captive Honour take a bow) and on Youthanasia we really didn't need the title track or Black Curtains or Victory but these were still the exception rather than the rule. From there on out you'd be hard pressed to find quality. Thank God those albums coincided with me moving from tape to CD otherwise I'd have been wasting lots of Walkman battery life fast forwarding the shite.
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I've seen that countless times but it never stops being funny :laugh:
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Gene Hoglan and Jens Kidman appearing on soundtrack to season 2 of Rings of Power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBYUs0u3r2w
I was watching the Coroner 'Rewind' doc again yesterday.
It's a brilliant watch overall, but the footage of Apollyon Sun and 'Endorama' era Kreator was so fucking cringeworthy, and reminded me how much awful music and naff posturing there was at that time. And that's before we even get to the fashion...
Never seen that, must give it a watch.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 12, 2024, 12:28:15 PMNever seen that, must give it a watch.
It's really well put together. Some brilliant old footage and stuff from the initial reunion gigs, and as well as the band themselves, there are interviews with Tom Warrior, Martin Ain, Max Cavalera, Mille Petrozza, Tom Morris, Tom Angelripper, Harris Johns, and Karl-Ulrich Walterbach from Noise.
Did anyone ever actually look at the Dance of Death artwork, see it on a t-shirt, and think "yep, that's the band t-shirt for me"?
Quote from: Ducky on August 12, 2024, 12:43:19 PMDid anyone ever actually look at the Dance of Death artwork, see it on a t-shirt, and think "yep, that's the band t-shirt for me"?
Guaranteed there's one"maiden can do no wrong" gobshite who has.
Recall some eejit defending it on reddit "as it's true to Steve's vision and should be respected ".
Edit: Nothing in that story made sense
Quote from: Sworntothecans on August 12, 2024, 03:21:47 PMQuote from: Ducky on August 12, 2024, 12:43:19 PMDid anyone ever actually look at the Dance of Death artwork, see it on a t-shirt, and think "yep, that's the band t-shirt for me"?
Guaranteed there's one"maiden can do no wrong" gobshite who has.
Recall some eejit defending it on reddit "as it's true to Steve's vision and should be respected ".
Same ilk of person who would swear Lulu is the work of genius, no doubt. And Reddit really is bizarre-o world at times :laugh:
Oh it's the place for mental gymnastics for shit head fandom defending shite.
Can't believe Metallica have passed up the opportunity to write a song called The Un4gIVen...it's right there.
:laugh: Don't give them ideas
Quote from: Sworntothecans on August 13, 2024, 03:55:57 PMOh it's the place for mental gymnastics for shit head fandom defending shite.
I deleted the app from my phone recently and it's such a relief.
I still view the Street Fighter sub on a browser (as I play a lot of Street Fighter 6), and some of the mental gymnastics would have earned golds in Paris.
Quote from: ldj on August 14, 2024, 10:11:50 PMCan't believe Metallica have passed up the opportunity to write a song called The Un4gIVen...it's right there.
That took me a second , :laugh:
Quote from: ldj on August 14, 2024, 10:11:50 PMCan't believe Metallica have passed up the opportunity to write a song called The Un4gIVen...it's right there.
Won't happen, Lars doesn't get 4/IV
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QuoteNailbomb, the short-lived 90's industrial/thrash metal band featuring Max Cavalera (Soulfly, Cavalera Conspiracy, Go Ahead And Die and ex-Sepultura) and Alex Newport (Fudge Tunnel), will reunite for its first show in more than two decades on November 9th at the Marquee Theatre in Tempe, Arizona. For unknown reasons, however, Newport is not involved in this reunion.
How can a two man band reunite if only one of them is there? :-[
He already did a Nailbomb show a few years ago, think it was just under the Cavalera name
If there was ever a lad riding the fuck out of past glories it's Max
I wonder did yer one on The Memory Remains feel any shame or guilt as she accepted the cheque?
I think The Memory Remains is one of the best songs on Load/Reload. Definitely one of the last where the 'Tallica sounded genuine about their songcraft.
Musing - what must have it been like in the early days of heavy/black/death/doom metal for the lads committing it to tape? As in, I'm sure they sat there at one point and thought "holy shit, I've invented a new genre of music".
Going in to see Triumph of Death tonight. I only found out they were playing yesterday. Should be... interesting... 8)
Quote from: Bürggermeister on August 15, 2024, 07:51:01 PMQuoteNailbomb, the short-lived 90's industrial/thrash metal band featuring Max Cavalera (Soulfly, Cavalera Conspiracy, Go Ahead And Die and ex-Sepultura) and Alex Newport (Fudge Tunnel), will reunite for its first show in more than two decades on November 9th at the Marquee Theatre in Tempe, Arizona. For unknown reasons, however, Newport is not involved in this reunion.
How can a two man band reunite if only one of them is there? :-[
What the fuck :laugh:
He's put on a bit of weight, maybe he counts as a reunion by default? (It's great to be perfect etc.)
I assume Igor will pĺay drums so maybe that's the reunion end of it, probably his son on the other guitar and vocals.
would def go see that. just watching the Dynamo show now. brilliant sound. wild crowd all jumping in unison. the messy, colourful band aesthetic that is classic 90's has actually aged well imo. i wonder why Newport wasnt arsed?
Is Newport the fella that plays bass in Conan now? Def a Fudge Tunnel guy.
No, that's Dave Ryley. Newport was guitar/vocals in FT. A producer now.
Quote from: Carnage on August 17, 2024, 05:02:01 PMNo, that's Dave Ryley. Newport was guitar/vocals in FT. A producer now.
Surprised he's producing when the Fudge Tunnel stuff was so bad tbh. I had a couple on here one night and thought they were awful stuff. Love his vocals on Nailbomb though
I fucking love that Nailbomb album, went to the work of the world years ago to get it and some degenerate scratched the fuck out of it at a party, must get a new one. Best thing Maxey boy did outside Seps in my opinion.
Jsut another shameless cash-in by the big lad. Reuninon me hole. Point Bank, wha!
It's hit and miss, some great stuff and some duds. Which is what you'd expect from the two behind it, their respective bands were also variable. When it's good, it's great though.
Maybe one for the controversial opinions thread, but Max is a fucking chancer. The artistic integrity of his career and Andreas Kisser's after the former exited Sepultura shows who the real brains behind the band was.
And as good as Igor is, Eloy eats him for breakfast.
Nothing controversial at all there, for me. Igor's grand, though, savage player in his day. He was doing stuff nobody else was doing at the time and left a long shadow.
Quote from: Ducky on August 17, 2024, 10:42:49 PMMaybe one for the controversial opinions thread, but Max is a fucking chancer. The artistic integrity of his career and Andreas Kisser's after the former exited Sepultura shows who the real brains behind the band was.
And as good as Igor is, Eloy eats him for breakfast.
100% agree, Max has made a career out of surrounding himself with better songwriters/guitarists and tried to make it look like everything was down to him
The whole "no Cavalera, no Sepultura" shtick ignores the massive leap they made on Schizophrenia when Andreas joined, and that wasn't because Max suddenly learned how to play
Left to his own, he came out with the first few shite Soulfly records, and then they massively improved when Marc Rizzo joined
Him and Gloria are basically a more underground Sharon and Ozzy. Fuck over everyone they work with, but make it look like the managers are the only culpable one
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 17, 2024, 08:35:51 AMGoing in to see Triumph of Death tonight. I only found out they were playing yesterday. Should be... interesting... 8)
How was it?
Quote from: Mithrandir on August 18, 2024, 05:25:12 AMQuote from: Eoin McLove on August 17, 2024, 08:35:51 AMGoing in to see Triumph of Death tonight. I only found out they were playing yesterday. Should be... interesting... 8)
How was it?
It was good. Cool to catch up with a few of the heads as always. Caught the second support who were bland thrash stuff. HH started off well. The sound was great and Tom's voice was brilliant. Then he started letting the other guitarist do vocals and his voice was shit. Then the amp started acting up with the sound cutting in and out and I had had enough at that stage and fucked off home
Quote from: Trev on August 17, 2024, 10:56:58 PMQuote from: Ducky on August 17, 2024, 10:42:49 PMMaybe one for the controversial opinions thread, but Max is a fucking chancer. The artistic integrity of his career and Andreas Kisser's after the former exited Sepultura shows who the real brains behind the band was.
And as good as Igor is, Eloy eats him for breakfast.
100% agree, Max has made a career out of surrounding himself with better songwriters/guitarists and tried to make it look like everything was down to him
The whole "no Cavalera, no Sepultura" shtick ignores the massive leap they made on Schizophrenia when Andreas joined, and that wasn't because Max suddenly learned how to play
Left to his own, he came out with the first few shite Soulfly records, and then they massively improved when Marc Rizzo joined
Him and Gloria are basically a more underground Sharon and Ozzy. Fuck over everyone they work with, but make it look like the managers are the only culpable one
Never thought of the Ozzy/Sharon parallel before, but it's right on the money.
Was perusing the Metal Archives entry for Schizophrenia there, it says Jario T decided to leave the band after "composing 95% of the material". And 'Escape to the Void' is basically a cover of a song from Kisser's old band, just with different lyrics. So the two Cavaleras honking their horns about the re-recording recently is effectively trading on the skills of others.
I've not listened to a lick of SoulFly (due to the impression of those first few albums), curious to hear the difference with this Rizzo chap.
Igor was a beast in his day and while Max was never a virtuoso guitarist with a lyric book that consists only of "Arise", "Babylon" , "Tribe" and "Roots" he had, and still has a great voice.
Even the most diehard Cavalera fans must surely see that they needed both a player and songwriter like Andreas to work with them. That incarnation of the band fell apart because Gloria thought Max was the star with 3 supporting actors. I've always said Gloria reminded me of Sharon without the soap.
I can't be the only one who cringes hard as fuck when some chump from Slipknot announces, with no little pride, that he made a new mask? Morto for all grown ups.
I was just grateful that no Slipknot mask news filters through to me... Until now :'(
Everything about Slipknot is fucking cringe. Every time someone mentions them as a metal reference point it makes me want to cry tears of shit, even more than years ago when people heard you were a metal fan and said "Are ye into deh Depp Leper, an Bawn Joovee?"
But I find it especially annoying when that wonky headed fucker turns up in a documentary to state the obvious as if it is something profoundly insightful, or say "frickin awwwwwesome" in that particularly cunty yank way.
I see he is in that 'Nothin' But A Good Time' documentary too, another scene he had literally nothing to do with. I'm sure his contributions will be fascinating.
He's almost as ubiquitous as Dave Grohl. And even more annoying.
I remember laughing my balls off a few years ago when he released a book and was described as a "metal renaissance man". G'wan teh fuck.
That whole scene in the 90's and 00's where cunts wore masks or stupid face makeup, leave that stuff to Kiss, King Diamond, Alice Cooper etc...
....and Gwar!!!
Quote from: The Heretic on August 23, 2024, 10:43:11 AMThat whole scene in the 90's and 00's where cunts wore masks or stupid face makeup, leave that stuff to Kiss, King Diamond, Alice Cooper etc...
....and Gwar!!!
I suppose that is really a product of its time. The Berzerker wore masks too, at least they were great! I'm all for a band to have a bit of mystique though
Quote from: Necro Red on August 23, 2024, 11:10:39 AMQuote from: The Heretic on August 23, 2024, 10:43:11 AMThat whole scene in the 90's and 00's where cunts wore masks or stupid face makeup, leave that stuff to Kiss, King Diamond, Alice Cooper etc...
....and Gwar!!!
I suppose that is really a product of its time. The Berzerker wore masks too, at least they were great! I'm all for a band to have a bit of mystique though
Its a fine line though, you can either pull it off or you fail miserably....
Slipknot were definitely a gateway band for me, those first two albums were like nothing else I'd heard before, and I enjoyed the rest until they fucked out Jordison
The bits I've heard since then have been shite though, and Taylor is such an insufferable cunt, absolutely no time for them these days
Quote from: Anvil on August 23, 2024, 09:02:53 AMI was just grateful that no Slipknot mask news filters through to me... Until now :'(
Sorry man, I was cringing so hard I think I blacked out there for a while
Couldn't give a shite about their music and I'd be hard pushed to even name a song of their's (bar Wait and Bleed), but they're defo both a gateway band for a lot of people, and one that others have kept on their journey towards better and heavier bands.
Regarding the masks, they look like total spas for sure, but no more the trve kult black metal brigade. And to be honest, if I had to, I'd prefer to wear one of their masks in a band than dress up like the panda-in-leather-and-spikes cunts.
That Corey Taylor is an insufferable goon for sure. He seems to be up for any interview on any topic at any time and he'll defo be such and such's biggest fan.
Quote from: The Great Cull on August 23, 2024, 12:49:22 PMThat Corey Taylor is an insufferable goon for sure. He seems to be up for any interview on any topic at any time and he'll defo be such and such's biggest fan.
He's a dose. Stil
Quote from: Ducky on August 18, 2024, 01:19:40 PMQuote from: Trev on August 17, 2024, 10:56:58 PMQuote from: Ducky on August 17, 2024, 10:42:49 PMMaybe one for the controversial opinions thread, but Max is a fucking chancer. The artistic integrity of his career and Andreas Kisser's after the former exited Sepultura shows who the real brains behind the band was.
And as good as Igor is, Eloy eats him for breakfast.
100% agree, Max has made a career out of surrounding himself with better songwriters/guitarists and tried to make it look like everything was down to him
The whole "no Cavalera, no Sepultura" shtick ignores the massive leap they made on Schizophrenia when Andreas joined, and that wasn't because Max suddenly learned how to play
Left to his own, he came out with the first few shite Soulfly records, and then they massively improved when Marc Rizzo joined
Him and Gloria are basically a more underground Sharon and Ozzy. Fuck over everyone they work with, but make it look like the managers are the only culpable one
Never thought of the Ozzy/Sharon parallel before, but it's right on the money.
Was perusing the Metal Archives entry for Schizophrenia there, it says Jario T decided to leave the band after "composing 95% of the material". And 'Escape to the Void' is basically a cover of a song from Kisser's old band, just with different lyrics. So the two Cavaleras honking their horns about the re-recording recently is effectively trading on the skills of others.
I've not listened to a lick of SoulFly (due to the impression of those first few albums), curious to hear the difference with this Rizzo chap.
Andreas and the lads live free in Max, Igor & Glorias head. But they can't go five minutes without a dig.
Whereas Sepultura take the high road and do well for themselves.
They really do. Love or hate modern Sepultura (I fucking love them), they've forged ahead and left the shadow of the Cavaleras in the past, where it belongs.
No Prayer for the Dying, the song, not the album is possibly Iron Maiden's most overlooked song.
Whole album is class. And more importantly under 45 minutes, before Steve got the hooks in and decided "Right lads we're filling CDs now"
What's the story with the ridiculous prices for the Sabbath Anno Domini boxsets..its a pisstake....
The initial run was priced as expected but since it's a seller the scalpers are out in force.
I paid €108 for the vinyl box about a week before it came out on Amazon just checked now and it's on sale for 260. They must have done a smaller run for these all the other single album box sets were available for a long time. Some of them are even still available for the normal price now.
Christ.. I got the cd box on EMP on preorder and it was only about 70/80 I think
Pretty sure someone posted an eBay link when it was just released for the CD version at 56 pounds sterling. Half regret not buying it now
It's $59.98 on the Rhino website. Shipping is $15.99.
https://store.rhino.com/en/rhino-store/artists/black-sabbath/anno-domini-4cd/603497834525.html
Tempted to buy it myself but McLove's damning review of the box is putting me off. I wonder will they release the albums individually.
Quote from: Maggot Colony on August 27, 2024, 09:56:12 AMIt's $59.98 on the Rhino website. Shipping is $15.99.
https://store.rhino.com/en/rhino-store/artists/black-sabbath/anno-domini-4cd/603497834525.html
Tempted to buy it myself but McLove's damning review of the box is putting me off. I wonder will they release the albums individually.
Hopefully. BMG did it with their Celtic Frost/Voivod/Kreator box sets so fingers (Headless)crossed the same happens with these
Quote from: Maggot Colony on August 27, 2024, 09:56:12 AMIt's $59.98 on the Rhino website. Shipping is $15.99.
https://store.rhino.com/en/rhino-store/artists/black-sabbath/anno-domini-4cd/603497834525.html
Tempted to buy it myself but McLove's damning review of the box is putting me off. I wonder will they release the albums individually.
My criticisms aside, I have listened to Tyr a thousand times since buying it ;)
Agalloch are playing here in 2 weeks. A Sunday night and I'm working that weekend... and it's $100 a ticket !
I'm tempted, though. It would be nice to hear stuff from The Mantle live. I listened to Alan's interview with the bassist this morning and it really put me in the mood.
I didn't realise they'd reformed. The Mantle was class, none of their other stuff clicked for me though.
Ashes Against the Grain was decent but couldn't compete with The Mantle. Pale Folklore I have as well but I'm less familiar with. I will have to properly acquaint myself over the next week or two just in case.
Random metal related thought- Isn't it a pity In Flames aren't a savage Norwegian or Greek black metal band rather than a... whatever they are kind of band. The name, when you think about it and try to separate it from their music, is pretty damn cool.
I'll try that one.
Someone mentioned Dawn: Slaughtersun recently, this might be of interest:
https://www.cosmickeycreations.com/dawn-slaughtersun-2lp-gatefold-2024rp-lim-500-citrus-yellow-pre-order-11-oct.html
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 27, 2024, 10:49:09 AMQuote from: Maggot Colony on August 27, 2024, 09:56:12 AMIt's $59.98 on the Rhino website. Shipping is $15.99.
https://store.rhino.com/en/rhino-store/artists/black-sabbath/anno-domini-4cd/603497834525.html
Tempted to buy it myself but McLove's damning review of the box is putting me off. I wonder will they release the albums individually.
My criticisms aside, I have listened to Tyr a thousand times since buying it ;)
Tyr is a great album. Headless Cross is savage as well. Feck it, I think I'll get that box set.
The fucking hacks at Rolling Stone don't agree. They gave Headless Cross 2 stars and only gave Tyr 1 fucking star! :laugh:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120427215415/http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/black-sabbath/albumguide
Muppets. Tyr is the best Sabbath album I have heard. Headless Cross is also brilliant but I would put it slightly behind Tyr.
A lot of music critics are clueless cunts (see - Robert Christigau, who was a tone-deaf fuckstick).
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 27, 2024, 11:45:39 AMAshes Against the Grain was decent but couldn't compete with The Mantle. Pale Folklore I have as well but I'm less familiar with. I will have to properly acquaint myself over the next week or two just in case.
Random metal related thought- Isn't it a pity In Flames aren't a savage Norwegian or Greek black metal band rather than a... whatever they are kind of band. The name, when you think about it and try to separate it from their music, is pretty damn cool.
Great name alright, same with Impending Doom, I was so disappointed when I actually listened to the music
Was surprised to see recently that 3/5 of In Flames members are American lads.
I've always liked 90s In Flames, Reroute to Remain was the first thing they did that repulsed me.
I'm with that myself, can listen to anything up to Reroute no bother
Quote from: Eoin McLove on August 27, 2024, 12:16:45 PMMuppets. Tyr is the best Sabbath album I have heard. Headless Cross is also brilliant but I would put it slightly behind Tyr.
I'd still rate Master of Reality as their best, but Tyr could definitely crack my top 5. Love the Dio era too, but I think Tony Martin's voice suits the music more. Going to give The Eternal Idol a spin as I haven't heard it yet.
I've never heard a single sabbath album without ozzy on it. Not even a single tune honest. Out of the ozzy ones, master of reality is the obvious best but paranoid is close
The way ye are talking about that Tyr one is making me want to listen to it though so fuck it I'll throw it on now and see
Quote from: astfgyl on August 28, 2024, 11:03:38 PMI've never heard a single sabbath album without ozzy on it.
There isn't one. They're all Iommi solo albums. And shit.
Quote from: Carnage on August 28, 2024, 11:08:19 PMQuote from: astfgyl on August 28, 2024, 11:03:38 PMI've never heard a single sabbath album without ozzy on it.
There isn't one. They're all Iommi solo albums. And shit.
Honestly? I'm genuinely going to give this Tyr thing a go. I don't even know who will be singing on it
It'll be a bit of a shock to the system, it's a very long way from the Ozzy stuff. I'd give the Dio stuff a lash first, particularly Dehumanizer, probably the scuzziest thing they recorded post-Oz.
Right so. I was exactly 2 minutes and 12 seconds into that thing and I realised it wasn't Black Sabbath at all. Yeah some of the same players etc but no it's not the same band really is it? All they had to do was make up a new band and not a bother but jaysus now I know why lads have been giving out about it for years and it's nothing to do with the tunes it's just stupid in general.
Same as Sepultura, although I think Against is a brilliant album.
I still have it on by the way I don't even think it's bad but the only way I think a band could go that far and not change the name is by having the full original lineup
Quote from: astfgyl on August 28, 2024, 11:09:23 PMQuote from: Carnage on August 28, 2024, 11:08:19 PMQuote from: astfgyl on August 28, 2024, 11:03:38 PMI've never heard a single sabbath album without ozzy on it.
There isn't one. They're all Iommi solo albums. And shit.
Honestly? I'm genuinely going to give this Tyr thing a go. I don't even know who will be singing on it
Heaven And Hell is hilariously bad. Literally, I burst out laughing the first time I listened to it.
When I was getting into metal and Sabbath in particular, I couldn't understand why some was so good and some was so bad - to the point that when I borrowed Headless Cross off a friend that I was sure there was a printing error and the album on the tape wasn't what was meant to be there. It was only when I was picking up on the history of the band that I figured out the same, that the later stuff was a completely different band with nothing in common with the real deal.
Whether it's real Sabbath or not is indeed debatable, but Tyr, Headless Cross and Heaven and Hell are epic.
I love the Heaven and Hell album to bits, but I never got into anything after that. I had a similar experience to what Astfgyl described above with either Tyr or Headless Cross years ago, when somebody on the old forum mentioned that it was the best Sabbath album. Me hole!
It wouldn't be fair to call it shite because I didn't give it a chance at all, but it just wasn't what I wanted at the time. Might give them another goo someday.
Also, I bought Heaven and Hell before I bought the first 5 albums, so already knew it front to back. I'm sure that helped!
Whatever Iommi says is Sabbath... is Sabbath :abbath:
YES.
Nah. It's like Zeppelin - if any of the four original/classic members are absent it's audibly lacking and just not the same band. As competent as the replacements mught have been they weren't Butler, Ward or Osbourne and the band was a lesser entity as a result. It was increasingly about Iommi's ego as time went on (putting himself centre stage and Ozzy relegated to the side? Fuck off) so to call the albums from H&H on Iommi solo albums is justified IMO.
Judas Priest's Nostradamus is an epic album to cook to.
Whatever Page says is Zeppelin... is Zeppelin :abbath: :P
(irony intended :) I don't even personally think Page is the most talented member)
I'd rather more shit bands broke up than past-it bands "reunite"
22 years after hearing Phantom Lord for the first time, I've just suddenly realised (in the shower of all places and not even listening to the song), that the lyrics are "crushing metal strikes", not "crushing metal strikes".
I'd often wondered what a metal strike was, and why one would want to crush them 🤷
:laugh:
People going on strike from metal. Posers. Crushing them.
That's a great admission :laugh:
A similar one:
What is 'Battery' in 'Battery'??
Definitions:
noun
1.
a container consisting of one or more cells, in which chemical energy is converted into electricity and used as a source of power.
"a camera battery"
Similar:
cell
accumulator
power unit
2.
a fortified emplacement for heavy guns.
"anti-aircraft missile batteries"
I've always thought 1, but then changed to 2
Now I'm 1 again!
Which feckin one is it ?!!!!
:laugh:
I always that it was in the sense of 'assault and...'
Quote from: Carnage on September 03, 2024, 05:52:32 PMI always that it was in the sense of 'assault and...'
I feel like maybe this is correct. Although possibly there is a double meaning going on there - Battering the shite out of someone, and also, battery as in "an artillery sub-unit of guns, men, and vehicles" - as in a we are a close knit military like force to be reckoned with.
Always thought it was battery as in battering people too, specifically about being in a mosh pit
QuoteCircle of destruction, hammer comes crushing
Powerhouse of energy
Whipping up a fury, dominating flurry
We create the battery
Battery Street, San Francisco. Home to The Old Waldorf where they played/hung out.
Oh, cool info, never knew that.
Quote from: The Great Cull on September 03, 2024, 08:01:07 PMBattery Street, San Francisco. Home to The Old Waldorf where they played/hung out.
???
Nice info 8)
Good evening Eindhoven
We are from England
We are - My Dying Broieieied
I'd say I have thought about this at least once a week for 20, 25 years now. However long ago I heard it
I wonder what would be the world record for the longest sing-along of Valhalla at a Blind Guardian show.
Three of the four lads from from Cavern Womb on their Spotify page look like Paul Riedl.
Reading a book on Swedish death metal at the moment. I'm amazed that the oldest member of Entombed was only 20 when they made Clandestine.
https://metalinjection.net/news/dave-grohl-announces-the-birth-of-a-child-outside-his-marriage
Sounds like one lucky groupie :-X
Quote from: Mithrandir on September 10, 2024, 10:00:00 PMhttps://metalinjection.net/news/dave-grohl-announces-the-birth-of-a-child-outside-his-marriage
Sounds like one lucky groupie :-X
Looks like he has another confession to make...
Done, done, onto the next one!
That's his pristine image in the bin.
Quote from: The Butcher on September 10, 2024, 10:25:55 PMQuote from: Mithrandir on September 10, 2024, 10:00:00 PMhttps://metalinjection.net/news/dave-grohl-announces-the-birth-of-a-child-outside-his-marriage
Sounds like one lucky groupie :-X
Looks like he has another confession to make...
Done, done, onto the next one!
Beautiful work :laugh:
One of his kids is not like the others...
This Is a Booty Call
Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 10, 2024, 10:38:12 PMBeautiful work :laugh:
One of his kids is not like the others...
:laugh:
Dave, casually turning to his wife "It's times like these you learn to love again."
I'll Sleep Around
Just won 'First to the Barrier' for Iron Maiden next week through the fanclub yeowww 8) 8)
Quote from: Mithrandir on September 10, 2024, 10:00:00 PMhttps://metalinjection.net/news/dave-grohl-announces-the-birth-of-a-child-outside-his-marriage
Sounds like one lucky groupie :-X
People will have to put cigarettes out around Dave again....
I have a feeling it'll all work out just fine
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I'll Stick It Around
Similar to the Sepultura/Sepultra pronunciation thing, did anyone else pronounce Xentrix as 'ZEN-trix'? That was a thing around my way at the time.
Quote from: Carnage on October 01, 2024, 11:37:27 AMSimilar to the Sepultura/Sepultra pronunciation thing, did anyone else pronounce Xentrix as 'ZEN-trix'? That was a thing around my way at the time.
I did until just a few months ago when someone pointed out to me it should be like "Eccentrics" :laugh:
Yeah, I did for way longer than I should have too. :laugh:
I still do to be honest.
Still ZEN-trix for me
Yeah, camp zen-trix here, too, after initially calling them exx-entrix. I vaguely remember seeing an interview on Power Hour/Raw Power where they called themselves zen-trix...
Alright, fuck it. They're still Zentrix in my head too. :laugh:
Ex-entrix here and I'm not likely to change.... mind you I still comment on things like The Point Depot and Opal Fruits so I don't take kindly to change
I'd be an eccentrics man myself but then I've never heard a note of them. It just looked like that was the idea. Anything eccentric about the music at all?
Edit: I still call it The Point as well
Decent late '80s/early '90s thrash, nothing spectacular. They were touted as the British Metallica for a while but it wasn't really there. You've probably heard their Ghostbusters cover at some point.
Thankfully not :laugh:
Quote from: astfgyl on October 01, 2024, 07:54:51 PMI'd be an eccentrics man myself but then I've never heard a note of them. It just looked like that was the idea. Anything eccentric about the music at all?
Edit: I still call it The Point as well
Standard thrash really, solid stuff but nothing spectacular, they were great live when they played here a while back
And it's always going to be The Point
They'll always be Zentrix here, I did manage to change to the proper Sepultura pronounce over the years though.
Bolt Thrower will always be Spear Chucker and My Dying Bride will always be My Dying Birdie thanks to a glitch on a teletext page one day.
Oh and Old Man's Child ...Oul Boy's Wee Boy
Zentrix here too.
On a kinda similar vein, I only found out the other day that NOFX means No Effects.
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on October 01, 2024, 09:44:02 PMZentrix here too.
On a kinda similar vein, I only found out the other day that NOFX means No Effects.
Presumably they do use some though
Sort of ironic like the lad from Biohazard dipping the wick into overly used birds
For some reason I've had Sepultura's Born Stubborn stuck in my head all day, I haven't heard Roots in about 20 years.
Neither have I, but the minute you've mentioned it I can hear it like it was yesterday.
And I still don't think it's any good lol
Quote from: Thorn on October 01, 2024, 08:47:18 PMThey'll always be Zentrix here, I did manage to change to the proper Sepultura pronounce over the years though.
Bolt Thrower will always be Spear Chucker and My Dying Bride will always be My Dying Birdie thanks to a glitch on a teletext page one day.
Oh and Old Man's Child ...Oul Boy's Wee Boy
See also: Primicordial
Ever since I heard someone call it Unleashed in the Studio, I've not been able to call Unleashed in the East anything. Same with someone singing Spainkiller instead of Painkiller and seeing some Priest fans refer to Ripper Owens as Ripoff Blowens.
That gobshite Dan Franklin said Blood Incantation's new one is the most significant death metal album since Altars Of Madness! :laugh:
https://thequietus.com/interviews/expanding-the-circle-blood-incantation-interviewed/
Just pure hyperbole.
lol at just the list of his previous articles: it's like a one-stop shop for weekend hipster metallers in need of beefing up their tr00 credentials.
https://thequietus.com/writer/dan-franklin/
I had those exact suspicions voiced in my original comment, due to the bandwagoning nature of the comment, but decided I'd leave it :laugh:
Quote from: Thorn on October 01, 2024, 08:47:18 PMMy Dying Bride will always be My Dying Birdie thanks to a glitch on a teletext page one day.
I remember that day in McKenna's. Errortel's gig guide. :laugh:
Yep , forever etched!
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 02, 2024, 03:29:12 PMlol at just the list of his previous articles: it's like a one-stop shop for weekend hipster metallers in need of beefing up their tr00 credentials.
https://thequietus.com/writer/dan-franklin/
Read the article anyway. Muck. Twice he felt the need to virtue signal.
Quote from: Maggot Colony on October 02, 2024, 09:17:10 AMThat gobshite Dan Franklin said Blood Incantation's new one is the most significant death metal album since Altars Of Madness! :laugh:
https://thequietus.com/interviews/expanding-the-circle-blood-incantation-interviewed/
I don't know anything about Dan Franklin but seeing mention of The Quietus was enough to make my eyes roll . Wait til that bald youtube guy gets his hands on it.. Fantana or something like that? Bear in mind, these people are writing about metal for people who don't know anything about metal, so it comes off as extra patronising to those of us who actually like this stuff.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on October 03, 2024, 09:33:35 AMQuote from: Maggot Colony on October 02, 2024, 09:17:10 AMThat gobshite Dan Franklin said Blood Incantation's new one is the most significant death metal album since Altars Of Madness! :laugh:
https://thequietus.com/interviews/expanding-the-circle-blood-incantation-interviewed/
I don't know anything about Dan Franklin but seeing mention of The Quietus was enough to make my eyes roll . Wait til that bald youtube guy gets his hands on it.. Fantana or something like that? Bear in mind, these people are writing about metal for people who don't know anything about metal, so it comes off as extra patronising to those of us who actually like this stuff.
I only come across the Quietus reviews when I'm searching for new album reviews, and some sick part of me enjoys reading the absolute scutter that these "writers" spew.
Anthony Fantano is the other gobshite you're referring to. He once released a video instructing people on how to listen to metal. If you need instructing then maybe the genre isn't for you.
The other day Spotify was autoplaying after the new Blood Incantation into Inanna. Today it has autoplayed into Black Curse.
Is there some kind of hook-up behind the scenes between MW and Spotify?? :laugh:
Key to the Gate is one hell of a dittie.
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No you're alright thanks
Bloody hell, there's a new Nasty Savage out
So there's a "15th Anniversary" edition of Mastodon's Crack the Skye... I'm sorry, what the actual fuck are you doing, progression of time ???
Saw that, a remastered disc and an instrumental one. I think there's a blu ray too. Mad money though.
Yeah 70 sheets from Golden Dicks. I'd have no great interest in it anyways (due to listening to the album to death over the years), but that is a very spicy price indeed, particularly for optical media vs. vinyl.
Indeed, going down the Tool route with their prices. I'll stick with the original.
Oh fuck me the price of the last Tool CD is daft.
My best bud runs the local Golden Discs (hence "Golden Dicks", as we affectionately call it :laugh: ), and he said he got a bit sick of seeing Fear Inoculum staring back at him from the CD shelf. 50 quid or something? Fuck that noise, especially for a poor man's rethread of Lateralus.
I never saw it for less than €90 on CD, dunno about vinyl. Their Opiate 2 disc was stupidly expensive too, and only one song on it I think. Off they can fuck.
If Mastodon were serious about that anniversary release they'd have added the live version to the set, but no. €55 odd for the 3 disc on Amazon, €25 for the 2CD version. Nah.
I love Mastodon but they are always peddling some shite or another, they were selling jars of pickles on their social media a few weeks back ffs. Even announcing this reissue through their 20th anniversary tour for Leviathan was a bit weird.
Just had a gawk at FI on GD's site - 100 quid ??? Fuck that from on high. Yeah something like 30 quid for the Opiate track? I'm good, Maynard, thanks.
Agree wholeheartedly about CtS. Have just hit play on my rip I made of it from the CD that I paid €15 for at release. Far more palatable than the silliness they're asking for now.
The way I look at these is you're paying the money for the extra tracks since most of us have bought the original albums already. Is an instrumental version of the album worth the price? Fuck no. Same for the Expanded Edition stuff where the expansion is live tracks. Would you pay that kind of money for a live album? Of course not.
If they added pickles to the deal, however... then maybe we'd have another think coming.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on October 12, 2024, 06:42:39 AMThe way I look at these is you're paying the money for the extra tracks since most of us have bought the original albums already. Is an instrumental version of the album worth the price? Fuck no. Same for the Expanded Edition stuff where the expansion is live tracks. Would you pay that kind of money for a live album? Of course not.
If they added pickles to the deal, however... then maybe we'd have another think coming.
Genuine value for money you don't mind paying for, but to charge big bucks you have to justify it, and I just don't see it there - particularly in Tool's case. They're for collectors/completists I'm sure, and when physical media sales are lower than when the album came out originally, I can see why they're produced in lower numbers and with a higher price tag, but it stings a bit.
Quote from: ldj on October 11, 2024, 11:10:16 PMI love Mastodon but they are always peddling some shite or another, they were selling jars of pickles on their social media a few weeks back ffs. Even announcing this reissue through their 20th anniversary tour for Leviathan was a bit weird.
And they're plugging Once Around The Sun 10th anniversary T-shirts too.
Pickles eh? 🤔
I saw an interview with Bill from Mastodon a few years ago and he went pretty deep into the financial side of things for a band their size. He basically said its the regular run of limited editions and branded merch is what keeps them going. They also took a lot of profits and invested in a rehearsal facility they can rent out to other bands, and add a studio so they can save money there when they go to record
Was pretty interesting, must see if I can find the link again
I've never listened to a second of Mastodon in my life. Just assumed they were overhyped and never bothered.
You're missing out, very good band. Definitely overhyped but the quality's there. Early stuff is the heaviest, they became more commercial for a while, while also incorporating prog to varying degrees.
Only ever had the first couple of Mastodon albums. Remission and some mother one. Liked them at the time but they never really held my interest after those.
Still went to see them the couple of times they played here in Cork, though.
Quote from: Anvil on October 12, 2024, 12:43:09 PMI've never listened to a second of Mastodon in my life. Just assumed they were overhyped and never bothered.
First four are classics. 'Remission' (the debut) is heavy as fuck. Brann Dailor is an animal of a drummer (he played on Today is the Day's 'In The Eyes of God')
Quote from: Anvil on October 12, 2024, 12:43:09 PMI've never listened to a second of Mastodon in my life. Just assumed they were overhyped and never bothered.
And I suppose you think it's just a coincidence that 'Megaton Sword rock' is an anagram of 'Mastodon crew grok', eh?
Insert gif of Keanu Reeves saying 'woah' here.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 12, 2024, 06:53:24 PMQuote from: Anvil on October 12, 2024, 12:43:09 PMI've never listened to a second of Mastodon in my life. Just assumed they were overhyped and never bothered.
And I suppose you think it's just a coincidence that 'Megaton Sword rock' is an anagram of 'Mastodon crew grok', eh?
Mind blown :o :o :o
That instrumental version of Crack the Sky was tacked in to a special edition of the album when it was originally released. I bought it as a digital download at the time and it's a interesting listen alright but I wouldn't go back to it often. The original album is deadly though and where I dropped off with them
I listen to a lot of instrumental music when reading, etc., so I not only come back to that version of Crack the Skye often but would even like more of their albums to be available as instrumentals.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 13, 2024, 09:16:26 AMI listen to a lot of instrumental music when reading, etc., so I not only come back to that version of Crack the Skye often but would even like more of their albums to be available as instrumentals.
Have you heard the Medium Rarities compilation? There's five or six instrumental versions of their songs on that
Yeah, I know those ones too. There's some like-minded folk have made YT playlists of all their instrumentals.
The disdain Tool have for their own fanbase is hilarious, 250 quid for a cd :laugh: .
https://store.toolband.com/product/TLCD010/undertow-deluxe-cd-30th-anniversary-edition?srsltid=AfmBOopZc10vpnucPmoem2ZazH3-LZQTZQyKjYezMR6UIuo62My-g1K2
I kinda admire Tool for it - they know that their hardcore fanbase are complete and utter simpletons (the Tool subreddit will no doubt become some behavioural psychologist's PhD thesis), so why the fuck not exploit these dinguses.
Quote from: ldj on October 16, 2024, 10:36:31 AMThe disdain Tool have for their own fanbase is hilarious, 250 quid for a cd :laugh: .
https://store.toolband.com/product/TLCD010/undertow-deluxe-cd-30th-anniversary-edition?srsltid=AfmBOopZc10vpnucPmoem2ZazH3-LZQTZQyKjYezMR6UIuo62My-g1K2
The cd packaging looks like a bar of fancy chocolate from M&S
Quote from: Ducky on October 16, 2024, 10:48:25 AMI kinda admire Tool for it - they know that their hardcore fanbase are complete and utter simpletons (the Tool subreddit will no doubt become some behavioural psychologist's PhD thesis), so why the fuck not exploit these dinguses.
Yeah that's exactly how I see it as well. The stupid fuckers that do it definitely deserve it
I might have mentioned it before and... OK, they're not a metal band as such but the best bass drum sound there is is on Fugazi's Repeater.
Those four notes of the guitar solo in Sepultura's "Slaves of Pain" at 2:25 sound like getting coins in a Super Mario game.
IT'SA ME ANDREAS!😂😂😂😂
Thank you Andreas! But our drummer is in another band :abbath:
Had a weird experience on ROD forum recently, a regular poster there that I've never spoken to/interacted with and don't know messaged me as I'm Looking for a copy of the Genocide Shrines - Manipura imperial LP. He was like "Hey dude, I'm going to be spending time with the band soon and I'll check for you of they have spare copies" I was like sweet thanks. And I get all these unprompted messages being like "hey I'm with the band now, got you a copy" "hey do you want it signed" "Heading home will message when I'm home" "Home now waiting for mailers and get you a shopping quote..etc" like all this information in different messages detailing the whole process that I never asked him in the first place, just thought he was being cool. And now when I'm like how much do I owe you and he's just ghosted any message I've sent him over the last 8 weeks while continuing to post daily :laugh: :laugh: Bizarre.
Lock your doors and windows!
Quote from: Mithrandir on November 01, 2024, 08:39:03 PMHad a weird experience on ROD forum recently, a regular poster there that I've never spoken to/interacted with and don't know messaged me as I'm Looking for a copy of the Genocide Shrines - Manipura imperial LP. He was like "Hey dude, I'm going to be spending time with the band soon and I'll check for you of they have spare copies" I was like sweet thanks. And I get all these unprompted messages being like "hey I'm with the band now, got you a copy" "hey do you want it signed" "Heading home will message when I'm home" "Home now waiting for mailers and get you a shopping quote..etc" like all this information in different messages detailing the whole process that I never asked him in the first place, just thought he was being cool. And now when I'm like how much do I owe you and he's just ghosted any message I've sent him over the last 8 weeks while continuing to post daily :laugh: :laugh: Bizarre.
I have a right story about a lad like this but the long and short was that I had to walk from Rathmines to The Point and me father got to see Metallica for free so not the worst result.
On a more similar note there's a lad in the nin forum sending me a copy of The Slip on cd for the last 5 years and I never even wanted it in the first place
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-11-07/singers-fans-end-up-at-death-metal-band-by-same-name-gig-by-mistake
:laugh:
The latest Portrait album is down to twelve quid on Amazon for anyone who's interested (cd obvs)
Random punk thought: for every brilliant Clash song there must be two or three stinkers. Jesus, they clog their records with a lot of crap.
Quote from: astfgyl on November 08, 2024, 02:23:28 PMhttps://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-11-07/singers-fans-end-up-at-death-metal-band-by-same-name-gig-by-mistake
:laugh:
That's hilarious, fair play to the girls for sticking around.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 10, 2024, 07:03:02 AMRandom punk thought: for every brilliant Clash song there must be two or three stinkers. Jesus, they clog their records with a lot of crap.
Really like a good chunk of the clash's songs. But couldnt agree more. Tried to listen to sandanista the whole way through a few weeks back. Had only heard a few tracks from it. Fuck it's a slog. Turned it off after 40 mins. Actually put me off listening to the good stuff for a while.
There's a local black/death band here called Meth Christ which I always thought was an odd choice, of all the words in the world and with 2 of the bigger underground bands from NZ being Meth Drinker and Witchrist, it just kind of sounds like what they would call their Split 7"
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 10, 2024, 07:03:02 AMRandom punk thought: for every brilliant Clash song there must be two or three stinkers. Jesus, they clog their records with a lot of crap.
Here's another random punk thought: The Damned were a far better band than their more popular peers like The Clash and the Sex Pistols.
Quote from: Maggot Colony on November 11, 2024, 09:07:13 AMQuote from: Eoin McLove on November 10, 2024, 07:03:02 AMRandom punk thought: for every brilliant Clash song there must be two or three stinkers. Jesus, they clog their records with a lot of crap.
Here's another random punk thought: The Damned were a far better band than their more popular peers like The Clash and the Sex Pistols.
Which album do I start with with The Damned?
Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 11, 2024, 09:11:18 AMQuote from: Maggot Colony on November 11, 2024, 09:07:13 AMQuote from: Eoin McLove on November 10, 2024, 07:03:02 AMRandom punk thought: for every brilliant Clash song there must be two or three stinkers. Jesus, they clog their records with a lot of crap.
Here's another random punk thought: The Damned were a far better band than their more popular peers like The Clash and the Sex Pistols.
Which album do I start with with The Damned?
Machine Gun Etiquette is their best in my opinion. It's poppy but still punk as fuck, and Captain Sensible plays solos like he's in an NWOBHM band.
Damned Damned Damned is great as well.
Deadly, I'll check those out. Cheers.
Quote from: Maggot Colony on November 11, 2024, 09:07:13 AMQuote from: Eoin McLove on November 10, 2024, 07:03:02 AMRandom punk thought: for every brilliant Clash song there must be two or three stinkers. Jesus, they clog their records with a lot of crap.
Here's another random punk thought: The Damned were a far better band than their more popular peers like The Clash and the Sex Pistols.
Agreed. They're deadly.
While I'm at it, what the hell is a Chat Pile?
Quote from: Thorn on November 12, 2024, 08:27:28 PMWhile I'm at it, what the hell is a Chat Pile?
A conversation about haemorrhoids?
A social media backlog?
Can't wait for the Chat Pile tribute band... Shat Pile!
Well, whatever they're like I won't be going there purely because of the name. Yeah, yeah, my loss, I know.
Quote from: Thorn on November 12, 2024, 08:27:28 PMWhile I'm at it, what the hell is a Chat Pile?
A pile of gravel, basically, leftovers from mining.
Oh right, fair play so. Thought that was a slag heap. Now there's a band name. Slag Heap. Yeah, I can get behind that!
Quote from: Thorn on November 12, 2024, 10:26:41 PMOh right, fair play so. Thought that was a slag heap. Now there's a band name. Slag Heap. Yeah, I can get behind that!
Slag Heap is a good band name, but Sandra Bullock is better. Just saying.
Sandra Bullock is always better ..well unless Kidman is on the scene.
Quote from: Thorn on November 12, 2024, 10:26:41 PMOh right, fair play so. Thought that was a slag heap. Now there's a band name. Slag Heap. Yeah, I can get behind that!
:laugh: I can't stop thinking about the look and the sound of them but now their name is slag heap
Job done 8)
https://youtu.be/l9GOtSiEvBw?feature=shared
Just look how off their heads the two lads and the interviewer are.
I want whatever it is.
I've only watched like 5 minutes but they're all absolutely belted
Quote from: ochoill on November 12, 2024, 10:43:26 PMQuote from: Thorn on November 12, 2024, 10:26:41 PMOh right, fair play so. Thought that was a slag heap. Now there's a band name. Slag Heap. Yeah, I can get behind that!
:laugh: I can't stop thinking about the look and the sound of them but now their name is slag heap
Slag is very much a metal thing.
When you weld metal you get slag on top of the weld after it cools that you need to chip of with a hammer..so get your slag hammer out
Edit: Moved to the wasp thread
Blackie "Evangelical Christian" Lawless strikes again!
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Nothing is safe :laugh:
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Has to be satire :laugh:
Less Witch Hunts back then though.
Zing :laugh: :laugh:
Band names should never have more than 3 words and should not have punctuation, symbols or numbers (looking at you Sunn O))))
Aren't Sunn named after the amp crowd who used that symbol?
Quote from: YerWan on November 28, 2024, 02:02:42 PMBand names should never have more than 3 words and should not have punctuation, symbols or numbers (looking at you Sunn O))))
There's a band on Prosthetic records called 'Blindfolded and led to the woods' and it pissed me off just reading it.
Quote from: Ducky on November 28, 2024, 05:23:07 PMAren't Sunn named after the amp crowd who used that symbol?
They are indeed.
Quote from: Mithrandir on November 28, 2024, 06:43:45 PMQuote from: YerWan on November 28, 2024, 02:02:42 PMBand names should never have more than 3 words and should not have punctuation, symbols or numbers (looking at you Sunn O))))
There's a band on Prosthetic records called 'Blindfolded and led to the woods' and it pissed me off just reading it.
But without them we wouldn't have this legendary bit of TV!
That was awful in every conceivable way.
I've no interest in that sort of death metal these days but if I saw that on The Den when I was a kid my mind would have been blown apart :laugh:
Not quite Death Metal on a kids show but nothing beats Nicko McBrain being on the Sooty show (starts at 12 mins)
https://youtu.be/F_T4668KBSg?si=BVxfzmBEv5wscqNV&t=722
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on November 28, 2024, 07:08:31 PMQuote from: Mithrandir on November 28, 2024, 06:43:45 PMQuote from: YerWan on November 28, 2024, 02:02:42 PMBand names should never have more than 3 words and should not have punctuation, symbols or numbers (looking at you Sunn O))))
There's a band on Prosthetic records called 'Blindfolded and led to the woods' and it pissed me off just reading it.
But without them we wouldn't have this legendary bit of TV!
Euronymous is turning in his grave at the knowledge these lads aren't getting death threats for being posers. :laugh:
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on November 28, 2024, 07:08:31 PMBut without them we wouldn't have this legendary bit of TV!
I am stuck for words. Sweet Jesus
Look at them there. Bill and Ted's Tech-sellent Adventure.
Tick-nick-ul dith mitul :laugh:
:laugh:
Also, good morning Black Friday: have a rockin' international Megadeth appreciation day everyone! :abbath:
Quote from: The Great Cull on November 29, 2024, 09:46:53 AMTick-nick-ul dith mitul :laugh:
Are they managed by Murray from Flight Of The Concords?😂
Hilarious line of Questioning by Metalion in this Morbid Angel slayer mag interview.
(https://i.ibb.co/28rFPc9/PXL-20231201-021831154-2.jpg)
'Have you ever seen anyone being killed for real' sandwiched between thoughts on hardcore and politics :laugh:
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on November 28, 2024, 07:08:31 PMwe wouldn't have this legendary bit of TV!
The worst thing about this is that those kids are like those South Korean toddlers...way better musicians than I am :-X
Earache making some of their out of print albums available as on-demand CDs, notably Bolt Thrower: Live War, Napalm Death: Live Corruption and Old Lady Drivers: s/t. I hate feeding the Earache machine but the BT and ND albums I'd love to get on CD.
Manowar just announced the first date of what's apparently a 2025 tour playing Hail to England in full + the hits (Brixton academy July 2025)I can't forgive them after the shit they pulled at Hellfest a few years ago but would be lying if I said I wouldn't be first in line if they played near me. Hopefully it's a big enough tour and they hit Aus at some point.
Quote from: Carnage on December 02, 2024, 05:19:48 PMEarache making some of their out of print albums available as on-demand CDs, notably Bolt Thrower: Live War, Napalm Death: Live Corruption and Old Lady Drivers: s/t. I hate feeding the Earache machine but the BT and ND albums I'd love to get on CD.
Yeah I want the first two Iron Monkey records repressed, but after how they were treated by them when Morrow got sick on tour, I'll take me chances that they'll turn up on Discogs/Vinted at a reasonable price.
Tyr by Black Sabbath is an immaculate album. My word. I'm still completely hooked.
It really is and I'll still die on that hill of preferring Sabbath with 'their other' singers.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on December 05, 2024, 09:54:51 PMTyr by Black Sabbath is an immaculate album. My word. I'm still completely hooked.
Just put on 'the law maker' after reading this, holy fuck, just about blew my tits of in work, what a fucking ripper track. I've infamously never listened to a black sabbath album, and probably know 4 songs, I can't believe this is what I've been missing out on, not at all what I'd made up in my mind was a black sabbath sound 🤯
Quote from: Mithrandir on December 05, 2024, 10:28:35 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on December 05, 2024, 09:54:51 PMTyr by Black Sabbath is an immaculate album. My word. I'm still completely hooked.
Just put on 'the law maker' after reading this, holy fuck, just about blew my tits of in work, what a fucking ripper track. I've infamously never listened to a black sabbath album, and probably know 4 songs, I can't believe this is what I've been missing out on, not at all what I'd made up in my mind was a black sabbath sound 🤯
Bloody hell, you have good times ahead, get in there!
Check out 'I' from Dehumanizer
Quote from: Mithrandir on December 05, 2024, 10:28:35 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on December 05, 2024, 09:54:51 PMTyr by Black Sabbath is an immaculate album. My word. I'm still completely hooked.
Just put on 'the law maker' after reading this, holy fuck, just about blew my tits of in work, what a fucking ripper track. I've infamously never listened to a black sabbath album, and probably know 4 songs, I can't believe this is what I've been missing out on, not at all what I'd made up in my mind was a black sabbath sound 🤯
The Tony Martin box set is essential. Absolutely colossal stuff.
I fired on Headless Cross after Tyr and when all is said and done there's really only a gee hair between them.
Kill in the Spirit World is some tune. Pure Baywatch! Images of David Hasselhoff's tight cropped sunlit curly mullet playing in the breeze. Cunts drowning themselves just to see CJ majestically bounding tit-first down the length of the beach... ahhh, good times. So yeah, Tony Martin n stuff...
https://www.nytimes.com/games/connections
NY Times goes metal :abbath:
https://www.echolive.ie/corklives/arid-41532908.html
"Cork podcaster wins award for heavy metal film"
Does anyone else ever think did Boss ask Quorthon
"Are ya sure you don't want to do another take on that vocal there-you're a biteen flat I think? It'd be no harm like?"
:laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Sworntothecans on December 11, 2024, 10:46:41 AMDoes anyone else ever think did Boss ask Quorthon
"Are ya sure you don't want to do another take on that vocal there-you're a biteen flat I think? It'd be no harm like?"
:laugh: I was listening to Twilight of the Gods recently, and as much as I love the album, it's hard to believe they were the best vocal takes. The caterwauling on Hammerheart in particular is painful to listen to, but then again it wouldn't be the same album with a competent singer.
Had that on one evening when I was cooking and my missus was like "was he drunk recording this?"
Quote from: Sworntothecans on December 11, 2024, 02:44:01 PMHad that on one evening when I was cooking and my missus was like "was he drunk recording this?"
:laugh: HammeredHeart!
Quote from: Maggot Colony on December 11, 2024, 02:45:59 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on December 11, 2024, 02:44:01 PMHad that on one evening when I was cooking and my missus was like "was he drunk recording this?"
:laugh: HammeredHeart!
Blood,Fire, Buckfast!
Gotta love his tuneless vocals. They just somehow work.
Teenage backstage
Sex and outrage!
15 year old spotty dorks with bum fluff moustaches awkwardly trying to get stuck into experienced milfs?
Quote from: Maggot Colony on December 11, 2024, 02:35:06 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on December 11, 2024, 10:46:41 AMDoes anyone else ever think did Boss ask Quorthon
"Are ya sure you don't want to do another take on that vocal there-you're a biteen flat I think? It'd be no harm like?"
:laugh: I was listening to Twilight of the Gods recently, and as much as I love the album, it's hard to believe they were the best vocal takes. The caterwauling on Hammerheart in particular is painful to listen to, but then again it wouldn't be the same album with a competent singer.
As a rule I tend to operate on the basis that Bathory didn't release anymore albums after "BFD". This thread inspired me to have a spin through the other albums and fuck me, his vocals are painful throughout.
However, the singing on "Hammerheart" isn't as unforgivable as the fact that "Requiem" exists. For an established artist to have put out an album with that poor quality of songwriting and production is kind of incredible.
Had he lived :Quorthon discovers autotune!
Quote from: Pentagrimes on December 12, 2024, 09:40:57 AMQuote from: Maggot Colony on December 11, 2024, 02:35:06 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on December 11, 2024, 10:46:41 AMDoes anyone else ever think did Boss ask Quorthon
"Are ya sure you don't want to do another take on that vocal there-you're a biteen flat I think? It'd be no harm like?"
:laugh: I was listening to Twilight of the Gods recently, and as much as I love the album, it's hard to believe they were the best vocal takes. The caterwauling on Hammerheart in particular is painful to listen to, but then again it wouldn't be the same album with a competent singer.
As a rule I tend to operate on the basis that Bathory didn't release anymore albums after "BFD". This thread inspired me to have a spin through the other albums and fuck me, his vocals are painful throughout.
However, the singing on "Hammerheart" isn't as unforgivable as the fact that "Requiem" exists. For an established artist to have put out an album with that poor quality of songwriting and production is kind of incredible.
Oh you're going to love this...
I prefer the few albums from Blood Fire Death to Requiem, plus the Nordland albums, to the first three (I haven't heard Octagon, Blood On Ice or Destroyer) and Requiem is my favourite Bathory album. It's rough as fuck and the drum machine is as ropey as it gets but I love it nonetheless.
Browsing Graveland's Big Cartel and up pops a Rob Darken chat button saying, "Hail, how can I help?" :laugh:
Hail Rob. The missus would love an Hour of Ragnarok flag for Christmas. Any oul deals on?
Quote from: Ducky on December 13, 2024, 01:05:15 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on December 11, 2024, 09:04:31 PMQuote from: Maggot Colony on December 11, 2024, 02:45:59 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on December 11, 2024, 02:44:01 PMHad that on one evening when I was cooking and my missus was like "was he drunk recording this?"
:laugh: HammeredHeart!
Blood,Fire, Buckfast!
The Dutch Gold(en) Walls of Heaven.
BAPTIZED IN! SMIRNOFF ICE!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
One Rode to Buckfast Abbey
Hop House Thirteen Candles.
Beamish-ial Lust!
Rockshores in Flames!
Under the Sign of the Black Stuff
Bud Fire Death
Bud on Ice
Lockedagon.
Foreverdark Fruits.
I'm surprised Anthrax didn't release a rer-ecording of Fistful of Metal this year, this time with Joey singing, for its 40th anniversary. Not like Scott to mish a cash in opportunity.
Turbin, Spitz and Lilker would make money from it, that'd kill Ian.
From what I've seen Scott & Dan have always been pretty cool with each other.
Turbin does tend to take shots at Ian/Benante/Bello though.
Don't think they get anything off Fistful due to bad contracts.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on December 18, 2024, 07:19:00 PMDon't think they get anything off Fistful due to bad contracts.
That was why Flotsam re-recorded No Place For Disgrace. (and did a piss poor job of it, unfortunately)
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/chris-brown-lil-wayne-covid-aid-report-1235210645/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/chris-brown-lil-wayne-covid-aid-report-1235210645/)
"Alice in Chains and Marshmello allegedly pocketed millions in federal grant money, according to a new Business Insider report...Alice in Chains' touring company, AIC Entertainment, similarly used some of its $4.1 million grant to pay staff and various contractors (like equipment rental firms and videographers), per the report. But none of that money went to things like health insurance, which left the band's guitar tech and photographer, Scott Dachroeden, in a precarious position when he was diagnosed with cancer in 2022 and had to start a GoFundMe. Dachroeden died earlier this year, and a source told Insider that Alice in Chains didn't provide much financial support after the diagnosis, pointing Dachroeden instead to a charity that helps with medical bills. Alice in Chains frontman-guitarist Jerry Cantrell received $1.4 million of SVOG funds, while drummer Sean Kinney and bassist Mike Inez each took about $682,000, per the report. A rep for Alice in Chains did not return a request for comment."
Not a good look there for AIC.
Sheeeit.
I was trying to think of some puns for the AIC fiasco but the oul brain is on autopilot so close to Christmas.
Great to Steal
Scumbags on all levels. The fact that they were eligible for such massive payouts in the first place is also mental.
Absolute shitbags. The figures are ridiculous. More have been released since - Slipknot received $9.7 million! Is that a million per member? Can't remember how many fucking gobshites are in that band. Korn got $5.3 million, probably all spent on bagpipes and shiny tracksuits.
https://www.theprp.com/2024/12/19/news/alice-in-chains-shinedown-among-artists-named-in-new-report-on-how-millions-in-covid-19-relief-funds-were-actually-spent/ (https://www.theprp.com/2024/12/19/news/alice-in-chains-shinedown-among-artists-named-in-new-report-on-how-millions-in-covid-19-relief-funds-were-actually-spent/)
Quote from: Maggot Colony on December 19, 2024, 02:23:51 PMI was trying to think of some puns for the AIC fiasco but the oul brain is on autopilot so close to Christmas.
Great to Steal
No Excuses for it.
Cheque My Brain
Invoice Like That
Take Her Out (on expenses)
Them Bonus
DIRT
Saps
Jar of Flies, Wallet of Spiders
Poor roadie didn't realise he'd Die Young and end up a Man In The Box deep Down In A Hole. Nobody thinks they Would I suppose.
Paid When I Die
Fear The Invoices
Quote from: Maggot Colony on December 20, 2024, 09:45:07 AMAbsolute shitbags. The figures are ridiculous. More have been released since - Slipknot received $9.7 million! Is that a million per member? Can't remember how many fucking gobshites are in that band. Korn got $5.3 million, probably all spent on bagpipes and shiny tracksuits.
https://www.theprp.com/2024/12/19/news/alice-in-chains-shinedown-among-artists-named-in-new-report-on-how-millions-in-covid-19-relief-funds-were-actually-spent/ (https://www.theprp.com/2024/12/19/news/alice-in-chains-shinedown-among-artists-named-in-new-report-on-how-millions-in-covid-19-relief-funds-were-actually-spent/)
If they're registered as a business their accountants/management would have pushed for it.
Plus cancellation on tours/major shows would have been taken onboard. Korn had that huge show booked with Faith No More in LA that would have had a million dollars at the gate.
The smart and sensible ones took care of the legit bills/crew/merch companies etc, and there was a few who gobbled up the cash.
And there would have been some who got the payouts via their management not knowing it was the grant payment too because let's face it: Musicians are kinda dumb🤣
Jerry Cuntrell
Only hearing of this now but it's rather emblematic of the whole locust plague that was the covid years. Big fucking money washing racket from top to bottom and not a single cunt arrested or jailed for the outright corruption that it all was.
And the likes of us knocking about thinking a bit of government help was the decent thing for struggling small touring bands.
Fuck it I may as well just sit back and enjoy the puns
Did Haughey bring in the grant for artists in Ireland?
He'll be whetting himself, again
Was doing a bit of shopping today, two little rockers in front of me in the queue, couldn't have been older than 13 with Exodus hats, patches on the jackets, even spotted a Deicide one.
Class :abbath: .
I can't get over this review of Covenant in Kerrang when it came out, outrageous!!
(https://i.ibb.co/6YgBmpK/20250109-171907-3.jpg)
Kerrang was sucking the cock of pop punk and nu-metal at that time, very much trying to distance itself from its Metal roots. I'd be more surprised that they reviewed it at all.
What a clueless twit ::)
Remember it quite well..... laughable! Kerrang was a non event from that point in time.
Not the only bad review of an epic album either, in fact too many similar occurrences to even choose from!
Condescending, privileged, so called professionals, so called highly thought of critics and music review morons.
Then they went brit pop!
They were giving out 5K reviews to dreck like Terrorvision at the time.
I have a Kerrang special at home which lists their best and worst albums from the 80s - bands like Hellhammer and Bathory featured in the worst list! I also remember Cloven Hoof getting some abuse, the pricks at Kerrang detested the band for some reason. I must dig it out next time I'm home.
I do remember a positive review for Covenant in Raw magazine, I'm pretty sure they gave it 4 stars.
:laugh: Very bizarre review. Hard to understand the motivation behind it.
Black Sabbath - Sweet Leaf and Metallica - Bad Seed...
Is that the same cough sample? Don't think I've seen it mentioned anywhere ever so probably coincidence but I noticed it yesterday
There's a tune on Emperor's IX Equilibrium that has to use the For Whom The Bell Tolls bell for sure.
Quote from: Maggot Colony on January 09, 2025, 09:10:14 AMThey were giving out 5K reviews to dreck like Terrorvision at the time.
I have a Kerrang special at home which lists their best and worst albums from the 80s - bands like Hellhammer and Bathory featured in the worst list! I also remember Cloven Hoof getting some abuse, the pricks at Kerrang detested the band for some reason. I must dig it out next time I'm home.
Kerrang journos were usually more inclined to be into whoever had the free booze for them at gigs so it was always gonna be the major mainstream stuff.
Tom & Quorthon wasn't gonna put Mick Wall etc up at the Savoy with the company card.
When Raw came on the scene and a few of the regulars jumped ship ,some of the younger hires started to bring in more heavier tastes. And super Indies like Roadrunner started to buy more as space too.
Quote from: Ducky on January 09, 2025, 05:17:18 PMThere's a tune on Emperor's IX Equilibrium that has to use the For Whom The Bell Tolls bell for sure.
There's also Devin Townsend - Ocean Machine, which uses the snare from Sad But True for most of it
Pretty sure I read back at the time that it was a deliberate nod on their part
We were putting up me aul one last couple of nights before she heads back to Ireland, gave her our room as it was handiest. Yesterday morning she wandered down for breakfast in whatever she'd pulled off the back of the door to throw over her pyjamas. Which happened to be a black Emperor hoodie. Funniest sight I've seen in a very long time :laugh: :abbath: :abbath:
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 09, 2025, 10:38:00 PMWe were putting up me aul one last couple of nights before she heads back to Ireland, gave her our room as it was handiest. Yesterday morning she wandered down for breakfast in whatever she'd pulled off the back of the door to throw over her pyjamas. Which happened to be a black Emperor hoodie. Funniest sight I've seen in a very long time :laugh: :abbath: :abbath:
That's gas :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Curse You All Mam!
Inno A Sat-Mama
Ye Entrancemperi-mum
Thus spake the aul lady
Quote from: Maggot Colony on January 10, 2025, 11:27:19 AMThus spake the aul lady
*shrieks in second-wave black metal
"Where's me cuppa teaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!"
Black (tea) metal?
Tae-tanic black metal should be a genre.
Listening to the full Killing Joke releases in order at the minute (highly recommended, but not the point here) and reading the stories about each album as I'm listening along, no great exploration, just hitting the wiki sources at the bottom of the pages.
Anyway...
Isn't it great to be reading the oul lore around classic albums and it really does help keep both the albums themselves and also our own memories of the times more vivid.
Was watching Alice In Chains Unplugged over the last few days and in hindsight I'm realising once again how good the scene was from 1990-1994. Grunge gets its fair bit of getting shat on nowadays but fuck me 1990-1994 was exciting as fuck at the time.
Quote from: astfgyl on January 11, 2025, 12:56:45 AMListening to the full Killing Joke releases in order at the minute (highly recommended, but not the point here) and reading the stories about each album as I'm listening along, no great exploration, just hitting the wiki sources at the bottom of the pages.
Anyway...
Isn't it great to be reading the oul lore around classic albums and it really does help keep both the albums themselves and also our own memories of the times more vivid.
What a band. I was looking through my CD's recently and there's a big section taken up by Killing Joke albums. They're in third place. First place goes to Motörhead, followed closely by The Fall.
Here's a link to The Death and Resurrection Show in case you haven't seen it:
Great watch.
Quote from: Ducky on January 09, 2025, 05:17:18 PMThere's a tune on Emperor's IX Equilibrium that has to use the For Whom The Bell Tolls bell for sure.
The bell at the start of Black Sabbath was also used by someone and I can't recall. Unless one is using a sound library, such sounds can be a nightmare to capture so pinching would save time.
Here's a question, found this metal hammer cutting in the sleeve of an old second hand record, the other side of is the corner of what would have been a No prayer for the dying poster. Anyone recognize what band these 2 are from? They look familiar but can't work it out 🤔
(https://i.ibb.co/d6sdsz9/PXL-20250115-065622001.jpg)
Might be one of the later lineups of Loudness?
Annihilator? Looks like Jeff Waters on the left
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 15, 2025, 07:36:56 AMMight be one of the later lineups of Loudness?
I see you also reverse image searched :laugh: Neither of them look japanese to me haha
Loudness are French, non?
Quote from: Trev on January 15, 2025, 07:56:28 AMAnnihilator? Looks like Jeff Waters on the left
Ah yeah, that's the one! Good man, 20 shred point to you :abbath:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 15, 2025, 08:07:32 AMLoudness are French, non?
Not the one I've been listening to! 🇯🇵
Too cool for school, baby 8) I've never listened to either but I've been familiar with the French one's logo since spending a couple of summers in France in the 90s and seeing them in the local metal magazines.
Edit. I was thinking of Loudblast!
"Dutch school teaches art of metal vocal growl" :laugh:
https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2025/0114/1490841-school-metal-vocal/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2025/0114/1490841-school-metal-vocal/)
From now on I'm only going to listen to qualified metal growlers. The rest of these amateurs can feck off.
I'm listening to Sabotage by Black Sabbath. I can't help but notice what a huge influence Symptom of the Universe had on 70s Priest and early to mid 80s Metallica.
Cool prehistoric looking collection of 1984-1994 zine scans here:
https://cdn.deathmetal.org/zines/en/
Is the character on the cover of Spreading The Disease meant to be Joey Belladonna? I always think it looks like him anyway
Kid Rock sleazing on Caitríona Perry:
https://www.thejournal.ie/cringe-us-musician-kid-rock-asks-out-irish-journalist-caitriona-perry-on-live-tv-6599104-Jan2025/
Kid Rock, Billy Ray Cyrus and The Village People!!!! Truly lost for works.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 09, 2025, 10:38:00 PMWe were putting up me aul one last couple of nights before she heads back to Ireland, gave her our room as it was handiest. Yesterday morning she wandered down for breakfast in whatever she'd pulled off the back of the door to throw over her pyjamas. Which happened to be a black Emperor hoodie. Funniest sight I've seen in a very long time :laugh: :abbath: :abbath:
Not quite the same, but I was at the Irish premier of Superbad (friend's sister worked in PR) in 2007 and we got a goody bag with diff merch and treats, including a tshirt. Obviously, everything was just sized at random, so my women's medium I AM MCLOVIN was worn by my mother as a cleaning shirt for the best part of a decade. Always cracked me up.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 15, 2025, 10:55:34 AMI'm listening to Sabotage by Black Sabbath. I can't help but notice what a huge influence Symptom of the Universe had on 70s Priest and early to mid 80s Metallica.
It's their best album too!
The song Burning Down by High on Fire would put hair on your chest.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 23, 2025, 09:06:25 PMThe song Burning Down by High on Fire would put hair on your chest.
Those boys are the pinnacle of pure caveman metal. Fuckin' class.
My favourite of theirs is the first one I heard (on a Relapse comp. I think) - Devilution. Now that's a cracker.
Cracker of an opening track to their best album ("Blessed Black Wings"). It was released twenty years ago next week, holy fuck.
Jaysus. One of the few listenable Albini-produced albums too.
The super-wide panned toms make it unlistenable for me. I loved the first album, too.
Death is This Communion is still my favourite HOF, pure heavy metal thunder. Luminiferous was very underrated too, probably their most 'tuneful' album, while still being super heavy.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on January 26, 2025, 06:34:33 AMThe super-wide panned toms make it unlistenable for me. I loved the first album, too.
I find the first two unlistenable due to Billy Anderson's production.
Whereas his Neurosis albums are astoundingly good.
Nah, they all sound piss weak too. May as well be hitting pillows than toms when he's behind the desk.
Is the intro to Dark Funeral - Unchain My Soul just the intro to Abba - Gimme, Gimme, Gimme with distortion :abbath:
That is an unbelievable shout :laugh: :abbath:
Quote from: Ducky on January 26, 2025, 06:22:15 PMNah, they all sound piss weak too. May as well be hitting pillows than toms when he's behind the desk.
Did he mix TSIB?
Edit, yeah I know, Google and all that, but I prefer the forum approach in general. It's like arguing down the pub; better without the Google instant conversation killer
Says production on the sleeve notes. There're a few other names down for engineering and mastering it. He mixed Enemy Of The Sun though.
Quote from: Born of Fire on January 27, 2025, 10:31:10 AMIs the intro to Dark Funeral - Unchain My Soul just the intro to Abba - Gimme, Gimme, Gimme with distortion :abbath:
:laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Born of Fire on January 27, 2025, 10:31:10 AMIs the intro to Dark Funeral - Unchain My Soul just the intro to Abba - Gimme, Gimme, Gimme with distortion :abbath:
Think Children Of Bodom have the same Abba theft on one of the earlier albums.
Anyone here ever buy any Amplified t-shirts? I spotted a Type O Negative one, but I'm not sure what size to go for. I usually wear large, but some of the large t-men's shirts these days seem to be designed for anorexic teen girls.
Quote from: Maggot Colony on January 31, 2025, 09:01:51 AMAnyone here ever buy any Amplified t-shirts? I spotted a Type O Negative one, but I'm not sure what size to go for. I usually wear large, but some of the large t-men's shirts these days seem to be designed for anorexic teen girls.
Think there should be a size guide on the site. I was pricing stuff off them before and the shipping was cuntish.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 31, 2025, 09:32:32 AMQuote from: Maggot Colony on January 31, 2025, 09:01:51 AMAnyone here ever buy any Amplified t-shirts? I spotted a Type O Negative one, but I'm not sure what size to go for. I usually wear large, but some of the large t-men's shirts these days seem to be designed for anorexic teen girls.
Think there should be a size guide on the site. I was pricing stuff off them before and the shipping was cuntish.
Sound. It's on the EMP site so I wasn't sure. I checked the Amplified site, they advise buying a size up as they tend to shrink!
I love that Lombardo's bass drums sound like bass drums and not clicky clicky typewriter keys.
Quote from: Mr Barlow on January 31, 2025, 05:20:35 PMI love that Lombardo's bass drums sound like bass drums and not clicky clicky typewriter keys.
Aye, and he pretty much got the the same sound out of his kit for the Fantômas stuff too.
There's a good few bands that get the typewriter sound right, but Sneap was a bit of a divil in the 2000s on his productions for making it the default.
How do you come back from writing, recording, and releasing a song as ludicrous as Kraf Dinner?
You don't.
Checks out, Annihilator begins and ends for me with the debut.
Never Neverland is alright, but the amount of corny lyrics is definitely an exercise in cringe. And then Waters drops another facemelter of a lead and it's deadly.
Imperiled eyes is guitar wise an amazing track, one of my favourite thrash songs but then you get stuff like 'me and Claire alone in there' and something about not having school in other songs
Was it Testament they were supporting in Dublin in 2018 when they announced themselves as 'We are Annhilator, some people pronounce it as Anal Eater'.
Somebody from the crowd shouted 'Booooooooo' and the singer seemed genuinely shocked that somebody didn't like his amazing joke :laugh:
'That's the first time somebody has booed that part'.... or something.
That's a funny joke :laugh:
First two Annihiltor are great, and I love the two with Joe Comeau on vocals, everything else is really patchy, at best
Always thought he'd be brilliant in a proper band setting when he could just stick to being a lead guitarist and leave the songwriting to others
Quote from: Trev on February 14, 2025, 10:58:59 AMFirst two Annihiltor are great, and I love the two with Joe Comeau on vocals, everything else is really patchy, at best
Always thought he'd be brilliant in a proper band setting when he could just stick to being a lead guitarist and leave the songwriting to others
Always suprised that Mustaine didn't try to poach him after Friedman left. Then again Waters does everything in Annihilator and probably wouldn't make a good employee for grumpy Dave.
I can take Annihilator in small doses, only really the first 2 but I've a soft spot for the absolute fucking melter solo at the start of No Zone
Dickinson wandering on stage during 'Walk' at the Pantera show in Paris
Quote from: Thorn on February 16, 2025, 07:50:39 PMDickinson wandering on stage during 'Walk' at the Pantera show in Paris
It appears to be something they are doing at a lot of shows. Satyr and Frost were on-stage headbanging to Walk in Oslo and Atilla Csihar was on-stage for Walk in Budapest. Will Nemty be up on-stage in Dublin I wonder...
Or maybe the reanimated corpse of Christy Dignam?
It's all a bit cringe of you ask me (In the parlance of our times).
Tis.
Nempty couldn't. .......could he? :o
It'll be the lad from Sweet Savage
Is Brush still with us?
Quote from: Thorn on February 16, 2025, 09:46:56 PMNempty couldn't. .......could he? :o
He'd get in the crib at Christmas if he could
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh:
:laugh: that's the scary thing, I was actually half wondering, If he got the chance....but no, no ..just no
90% of the crowd wouldn't have a clue who he is! :laugh:
Theres going to be some serious meat heads come out of retirement for this!.Im more looking forward to seeing the antics in the crowd than I am seeing Pantera! :laugh:
I think The Joy is opening the gates for the day.
Well this has gone to A New Level
Quote from: Paul keohane on February 17, 2025, 02:11:01 AM90% of the crowd wouldn't have a clue who he is! :laugh:
Theres going to be some serious meat heads come out of retirement for this!.Im more looking forward to seeing the antics in the crowd than I am seeing Pantera! :laugh:
I foresee all the fat topless "Bro dudes" leaping around at this :laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 16, 2025, 08:49:06 PMQuote from: Thorn on February 16, 2025, 07:50:39 PMDickinson wandering on stage during 'Walk' at the Pantera show in Paris
It appears to be something they are doing at a lot of shows. Satyr and Frost were on-stage headbanging to Walk in Oslo and Atilla Csihar was on-stage for Walk in Budapest. Will Nemty be up on-stage in Dublin I wonder...
They had Chris Jericho come on during one of the US shows last year. Phil is good mates with Satyricon wasn't it him that gave them their big break bringing them out with Pantera when Rebel had just been released. Most likely won't be anyone on stage in Dublin unless someone from a bigger overseas band just happens to be in town that night.
Edit: you never know the lads from Biohazrd could be around with the tour kicking off in Belfast the next night so maybe they might make an appearance.
Some of those Scion AV EPs from about a decade ago were decent.
Quote from: Ducky on February 17, 2025, 05:11:57 PMSome of those Scion AV EPs from about a decade ago were decent.
Maddest period ever when a car company were sponsoring metal fests.
Think it was hinted a few years back that some lads basically fooled them into getting the chequebook out during some SXSW showcase afters "extreme metal and doom is gonna be the next Nirvana" and the coked up marketing guy was like really!
Quote from: Ducky on February 17, 2025, 05:11:57 PMSome of those Scion AV EPs from about a decade ago were decent.
Providence by Immolation is a cracker.
I don't now if I'm able anymore for the aggression of standing anywhere near the front for a metal gig. I have no issues handling myself but I can't honestly be bothered anymore, one time it was standing or nothing and fuck sitting down 2 miles from the stage, now its getting more and more tempting and less hassle, even when you get to the front cunts pushing their way in or clambering all over you, there's an obvious resolution with a slap dished out but then that's another can of worms which I can't be bothered with, plus my back can tend to give away so I'm at a potential disadvantage scrap wise, fuck morons anyway!!
What a dream gig, Pantera and Satyricon touring rebel.
Quote from: The Heretic on February 24, 2025, 11:23:17 AMI don't now if I'm able anymore for the aggression of standing anywhere near the front for a metal gig. I have no issues handling myself but I can't honestly be bothered anymore, one time it was standing or nothing and fuck sitting down 2 miles from the stage, now its getting more and more tempting and less hassle, even when you get to the front cunts pushing their way in or clambering all over you, there's an obvious resolution with a slap dished out but then that's another can of worms which I can't be bothered with, plus my back can tend to give away so I'm at a potential disadvantage scrap wise, fuck morons anyway!!
If you're talking about the Pantera gig, I think that's a bit of an exception as to what generally goes on at other metal gigs. Especially gigs outside of Dublin (I've found).
Also depends on the crowd too, obviously.
Quote from: Giggles on February 24, 2025, 02:40:27 PMQuote from: The Heretic on February 24, 2025, 11:23:17 AMI don't now if I'm able anymore for the aggression of standing anywhere near the front for a metal gig. I have no issues handling myself but I can't honestly be bothered anymore, one time it was standing or nothing and fuck sitting down 2 miles from the stage, now its getting more and more tempting and less hassle, even when you get to the front cunts pushing their way in or clambering all over you, there's an obvious resolution with a slap dished out but then that's another can of worms which I can't be bothered with, plus my back can tend to give away so I'm at a potential disadvantage scrap wise, fuck morons anyway!!
I wasn't at Pantera, it's more a general thing really, I think my tolerance level has gone for any kind of hassle or cuntishness at a gig, doesn't even have to be a metal gig either, it can even be some cover band in the local pub, I'm all for a bit of letting the hair down but just people with no manners or self awareness fucks me right off, more now then ever, perhaps I'm just turning into a miserable bastard and that may well be the case, but my tolerance level for shite has dropped to a level where its just not worth the hassle to get involved. Plus if I have the missus with me I'm even more on alert.
If you're talking about the Pantera gig, I think that's a bit of an exception as to what generally goes on at other metal gigs. Especially gigs outside of Dublin (I've found).
Also depends on the crowd too, obviously.
Article about dungeon synth in the Guardian. I haven't read it.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/feb/25/the-dark-delightful-magic-of-the-dungeon-synth-scene
QuoteA flurry of inflatable caveman clubs have erupted into the air, a crowd of ecstatic metallers swinging them merrily as they watch a hooded dinosaur peering over a synthesiser
Sold! :abbath:
I love Sign of the Hammer but the
"Thank you for the kool aid reverend Jim" at the start of Guyana gets me everytime :laugh:
I'm pretty sure that line is a homage to the movie the song is based on. (Or that is what I remember reading many many years ago).
Is it not just reference to Jonestown?
Maybe it is and I have gotten mixed up.
Edit - I was wrong. It is about Jim Jones. Your mind really does start going in your 40s.
But I think maybe they were inspired by this movie about it... (or at least that is what I remember reading - I confuse easily)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoIEz1Kew6s
Quote from: Mithrandir on February 27, 2025, 07:41:34 AMI love Sign of the Hammer but the "Thank you for the kool aid reverend Jim" at the start of Guyana gets me everytime :laugh:
Yeah it's from the movie where Powers Booth played Jim Jones!
And it was flavor aid that they drank as it was cheaper!
Wise words from the man himself, should be applied to all metal.
Also thinking about Rich walker setting up an account here on one of the first days and someone called him a wanker and he replied and never posted again :laugh:
I thought he turned up intermittently no? 'Twas always...interesting, when he did.
Actually that was Metal Ireland I guess.
I thought he only had the Isen Torr account unless he came back under another one?
Dunno, thought oul Rich was on now and again, maybe some of the elders can advise
Sometimes only Fear Factory will do.
I like the new Dream Theater album more than I really think I should
Same here, not pushed on Bend The Clock though, maybe that's where the 'more than I should ' bit comes in.
Where's a decent site to find reasonably priced cds?
Postage costs are a killer at the minute, so unless I'm ordering a bulk of stuff I find it could be €25 for a single cd. Still getting the odd bargain on Discogs but that seems to be getting a lot rarer these days
Hammerheart is very reasonable
Aye, I picked up the reissued Touble discography from them a year or two back, prices were reasonable and postage was minimal enough.
Just on that, I'm putting together an Invictus order at the moment, so I had 3cds in the basket that came to 48e all in, thought that was fair enough, pushed it to a fourth and the total came to 72e which was an eye opener ,I'm guessing the weight crossed over into An Post's next category but I wasn't happy with it so it's had the reverse effect of making me decide to go to 6cds for just over the ton. At a general 10.99 the Invictus cds are very competitively priced but with postage these days, as you mention, you need to go bulk.
Usually end up using the DHL option from Invictus as it is a lot cheaper to get stuff North of the Wall, even if it takes about 2 weeks.
Rarewaves might be worth a look. Picked up a few things from there recently. Prices are ok, and I get free shipping. Says postage to Ireland is a flat fee of £4.99.
Quote from: Anvil on March 07, 2025, 09:07:49 PM.
Rarewaves might be worth a look. Picked up a few things from there recently. Prices are ok, and I get free shipping. Says postage to Ireland is a flat fee of £4.99.
Had a look through it there and was surprised with how cheap some of the stuff is, nice one!
Hannes Grossmann is probably the best drummer in metal this century. Crazy CV, with the first notable contribution being Necrophagist's "Epitaph" when he was 21.
Sometimes I wish I could be more like Jizzy Pearl, the glam rock gypsy. Here's an inspirational quote from a recent Decibel interview:
"Gypsies don't worry about mortgages or bills. They think about playing the violin and dancing and watching the sunrise." :laugh:
That's going to be my response the next time the missus starts nagging me about bills.
https://www.decibelmagazine.com/2025/03/10/i-want-my-fingers-burned-from-carrying-the-torch-jizzy-pearls-four-plus-decade-journey-in-la-metal/
Got to visit Peter Steeles bench and tree in Brooklyn last week, its quite sobering to see how it all ended for him from the heydey of the 90's, he's sorely missed.
Some of Alan Averills vocal arrangements on a variety of Primordial songs seriously remind me of Warrel Danes vocals.
Not sure if Alan considers Warrel an influence - I do recall him playing Dreaming Neon Black during a DJ set in Bruxelles many (many, many) moons ago.
I've heard him namecheck Dane many times, and rightly so, as one of the best, as to how far he's influenced by him I wouldn't imagine it'd be too much.
Quote from: The Heretic on March 13, 2025, 11:47:18 AMGot to visit Peter Steeles bench and tree in Brooklyn last week, its quite sobering to see how it all ended for him from the heydey of the 90's, he's sorely missed.
He would have loved all them Instagram goth goils!
Although sober wracked with Catholic guilt Peter, as he was towards the end would have definitely been a different sort of guy.
Anyone know why new releases seem to come out on the same date? Take today for example, a slew of new releases. This happens all the time, just go through the new releases this year at Metal Storm to see that so is it something among the labels as it clearly can't be just coincidence?
Everything seems to be released on a Friday these days. Don't know why.
Google Global Release Day. Seems from 2015 Friday was considered the day all new music was released.
Ah, I see that now, the big release dates in March are the 7th, 14th, 21st and 28th, must be a Friday thing alright for whatever reason
Yeah almost every Friday theres 2 or 3 releases you'd be interested in last few years..its genuinely hard to keep up
I completely missed Michael Angelo Batio becoming the guitarist for Manowar.
Quote from: ldj on March 17, 2025, 07:07:42 PMI completely missed Michael Angelo Batio becoming the guitarist for Manowar.
get out of the hall
"I'm going to give you the keys to...the doors of the hall."
:laugh:
I'm trying to go to see them in Istanbul in July, at a festival alongside Candlemass and Opeth, not bad :abbath: .
Get back to me when they have Jim Gillette in on backing vocals.
anyone following the drama with the hardcore band Gel that supported municipal waste in Dolans last year
https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1jfc72s/posthardcore_band_gel_have_disbanded_and/
guitarist took all the money and spent it on onlyfans :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZK-7HeBPE
Saw this pop up. Never heard of Gel before but that's some absolute madness. I remember reading about the guy behind Soft Kill around the time of An Open Door, which is an exceptional album. From what I remember, he was ripping people off. He's progressed quite a bit from that.
Quote from: londonleatherboy on March 21, 2025, 12:16:59 PManyone following the drama with the hardcore band Gel that supported municipal waste in Dolans last year
https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1jfc72s/posthardcore_band_gel_have_disbanded_and/
guitarist took all the money and spent it on onlyfans :laugh:
Absolutely shitty behavior from that dude, spending all the bands fund on OF, is one thing but uploading stolen nudes to reddit belonging to bandmates is just fucking horrible.
They were a decent band too.
Listening to Overkills Years of Decay, and never noticed before how in the title track Blitz sounds so similar to Bruce Dickinson
Quote from: Trev on March 24, 2025, 10:31:56 AMListening to Overkills Years of Decay, and never noticed before how in the title track Blitz sounds so similar to Bruce Dickinson
And there's a very strong resemblance to the middle section of Elimination and Fear Of The Dark
Blitz was also an elite level fencer at that time.
He also spent a lot of time as high as most pilots get :laugh:
Current US domestic and foreign policy is pretty much USA For MOD. Billy for VP once JD gets iced!
There's more than a little Speak English Or Die and Fuck The Middle East about them too!
My local Golden Discs has seen a bump to their metal section. Picked up Carcass' "Surgical Steel" there this morning on CD as it's the vertion with the five extra tracks I don't have.
They also had stock of the new Obscura, Exodus, some Overkill albums, bunch of other stuff too. All on CD and vinyl.
Not sure if it's because of my buddy running the place is into metal himself, but it's nice to see this stuff available on the high street (in the arse-end of the country), nevertheless.
Quote from: Ducky on March 29, 2025, 03:57:31 PMMy local Golden Discs has seen a bump to their metal section. Picked up Carcass' "Surgical Steel" there this morning on CD as it's the vertion with the five extra tracks I don't have.
They also had stock of the new Obscura, Exodus, some Overkill albums, bunch of other stuff too. All on CD and vinyl.
Not sure if it's because of my buddy running the place is into metal himself, but it's nice to see this stuff available on the high street (in the arse-end of the country), nevertheless.
Nuclear Blast has BMG/Warner's distro so makes sense that Golden Discs would carry them.
That's the Sligo branch Ducky? I'd pretty much given up going in there whenever I'm in Sligo but I'll give it a look next time.
Quote from: Thorn on March 29, 2025, 07:43:57 PMThat's the Sligo branch Ducky? I'd pretty much given up going in there whenever I'm in Sligo but I'll give it a look next time.
That's the one aye. Now it's not exactly a bounty of goods, but there's enough in there to make me open my wallet a bit more.
I'll have a proper root one of the days and report back.
Yeah pickings have been paltry in it for a while so anything would be an improvement, kudos to your mate.
Quote from: Ducky on March 30, 2025, 12:31:16 AMQuote from: Thorn on March 29, 2025, 07:43:57 PMThat's the Sligo branch Ducky? I'd pretty much given up going in there whenever I'm in Sligo but I'll give it a look next time.
That's the one aye. Now it's not exactly a bounty of goods, but there's enough in there to make me open my wallet a bit more.
I'll have a proper root one of the days and report back.
Record Room occasionally has a few bits whenever Beaumex unloads old stock from the warehouse, usually daylight robbery there most of the time though!
Both Orange Goblin and Electric Wizard get somewhat random mentions in Stewart Lee's latest for The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/30/ive-got-the-message-security-leaks-are-no-laughing-matter
:laugh:
Which reminds me of his "I used to do orienteering with Napalm Death" bit
The original line-up of, to be precise! :laugh: :abbath:
I've never watched the Conan films before, but Conan the Destroyer is on telly now. Fuck, it is absolute dogshit.
I love the Conan movies. 99 percent Nostalgia but I have rewatched Conan the Barbarian a few times since my youth and it still holds up as my favourite movie ever (I don't watch too many go be honest and have simple tastes as the Now Playing thread attests to).
Conan the Barbarian is a solid 10/10 imo. Conan the Destroyer is just a run of the mill 80s swords and sorcery movie.
I saw Conan The Barbarian in the cinema ehen it came out, I would have been around 7! Still a great film. ...Destroyer is pretty awful compared to it, but nostalgia comes into play here so I don't mind it. And it's like Citizen Kane compared to Red Sonja or the recent ...Barbarian remake.
The soundtrack for Conan the Barbarian is also ace. One of the few soundtracks of movies I own.
Quote from: Anvil on April 02, 2025, 12:47:33 PMThe soundtrack for Conan the Barbarian is also ace. One of the few soundtracks of movies I own.
Aye Basil Poledouris's work on Conan & Robocop are fantastic.
When there's a killer band/album that all you can think is "fuck yeah" while you're listening, and then hardly ever come back.
I've had Stargazer's "The Scream That Tore the Sky" and "A Merging to the Boundless" on all afternoon, have listened to them plenty over the years, but never to the obsessive way that I've spun say Death or Blood Incantation, despite them being just as good.
I get that and I find it somewhat unexplainable. Incredible band anyway. All 4 albums are class.
Read in a post from Rolling Stone:
Quote"A lot of artists, when they're 62 years old, they're winding things down," Metallica's Kirk Hammett says in the new episode of our Rolling Stone Music Now podcast. "I feel like I'm still fucking climbing the summit, bro."
Hammett has a new coffee-table book out...
:laugh: :laugh:
Pictures of his guitars or something rock amd fucking roll.
Being deluded helps if you've been releasing unlistenable shite for twenty five years. It works for me.
While Kirk was a legend back in the day, nowadays he genuinely seems like his brain is working on dial up Internet.
I am the coffee table book!
Quote from: Ducky on March 29, 2025, 03:57:31 PMMy local Golden Discs has seen a bump to their metal section. Picked up Carcass' "Surgical Steel" there this morning on CD as it's the vertion with the five extra tracks I don't have.
They also had stock of the new Obscura, Exodus, some Overkill albums, bunch of other stuff too. All on CD and vinyl.
Not sure if it's because of my buddy running the place is into metal himself, but it's nice to see this stuff available on the high street (in the arse-end of the country), nevertheless.
I was in this morning and picked up the live Exodus and new Cradle except when I got home I realised it's the last Cradle and I already have it. Argh. Damn them and their interchangeable album covers.
Edit : Just rang them up and it's no problem to come in and change it ,cool.
I've been wracking my mind trying to remember what old obscure-ish band I seen in fibbers about 10 years ago to about 8 people. I was convinced it was a French band and some death/thrash massacra-ish band and was driving me crazy. Then Darragh posted one of their albums on his story today and it came to me! Necrodeath! Hazy as fuck memory as I was absolutely fucked from about 2 bottles of buckfast and a heap of pints. I remember thinking it was strange they were playing at the time and still think it was weird now. I don't think anyone who would have even cared about the show knew it was on, it was just part of that carnage clubnight.
(https://i.ibb.co/yc6PScTr/images-17.jpg)
Quote from: Thorn on April 04, 2025, 02:42:41 PMQuote from: Ducky on March 29, 2025, 03:57:31 PMMy local Golden Discs has seen a bump to their metal section. Picked up Carcass' "Surgical Steel" there this morning on CD as it's the vertion with the five extra tracks I don't have.
They also had stock of the new Obscura, Exodus, some Overkill albums, bunch of other stuff too. All on CD and vinyl.
Not sure if it's because of my buddy running the place is into metal himself, but it's nice to see this stuff available on the high street (in the arse-end of the country), nevertheless.
I was in this morning and picked up the live Exodus and new Cradle except when I got home I realised it's the last Cradle and I already have it. Argh. Damn them and their interchangeable album covers.
Edit : Just rang them up and it's no problem to come in and change it ,cool.
Ah good sauce yeah they're pretty handy for sorting out customers in that regard. I must have another mooch, grabbed the newest Obscura one the other day.
They also do "special order" stuff on the website. As in, they don't usually carry it but can get it for you in a week or two.
Necrodeath didn't go on stage until about 2 in the morning. Think Legion of wolves was releasing an EP that night.
Mad gig!
There's more time passed between Maiden's "A Matter of Life and Death" and now than it and "Seventh Son... " releasing.
Ttthhhaaannnkkksss, inexorable passage of time.
"Invaders" isn't that bad of a song. The chorus isn't great, but the rest of the song is decent. This is probably the only time since I first heard the song 27 years ago that I've actually kinda enjoyed it.
Invaders is savage.
I taped TNotB and SSoaSS off one of the boyos in school (I gave him Powerslave and Piece of Mind in return), and needed to cut a song from Beasty to fit the tape... never enjoyed the chorus of Invaders (still don't), so that got the chop, and I've always taken Children of the Damned as the true first song on that album.
Quote from: Ducky on April 06, 2025, 01:00:31 AM"Invaders" isn't that bad of a song. The chorus isn't great, but the rest of the song is decent. This is probably the only time since I first heard the song 27 years ago that I've actually kinda enjoyed it.
I love invaders! My only gripe with that album is that since Alan mentioned on the podcast how stupid it was they didn't open the album with NOTB, I haven't been able to stop thinking about it when I listen to it and it annoys me now as well :laugh:
Def not a strong opener. SSOAS arguably has a similar problem with Moonchild: not a bad song, but other tracks would have been better openers.
Invaders is great, mich better than the original version (Invasion on The Soundhouse Tapes). That and Gangland get a bad rep but they're both mighty songs. I couldn't imagine the album opening with any other song, or SSOASS for that matter.
Speaking of which, I've been meaning to revisit The Soundhouse Tapes. Haven't listened to it for years but recently watched a (French) documentary about NWOBHM and The Soundhouse featured centrally.
Aaaahhhh heeeyor, than intro and buildup on SSOASS, when Moonchild kicks in, it's fucken mightly, lads.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 06, 2025, 10:23:14 AMAaaahhhh heeeyor, than intro and buildup on SSOASS, when Moonchild kicks in, it's fucken mightly, lads.
Absolutely, it's fucking great, don't think any other song would have been a better intro
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 06, 2025, 01:58:42 AMInvaders is savage.
agreed...blistering solos as well..been banging this drum for years
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 06, 2025, 09:03:35 AMQuote from: Ducky on April 06, 2025, 01:00:31 AM"Invaders" isn't that bad of a song. The chorus isn't great, but the rest of the song is decent. This is probably the only time since I first heard the song 27 years ago that I've actually kinda enjoyed it.
I love invaders! My only gripe with that album is that since Alan mentioned on the podcast how stupid it was they didn't open the album with NOTB, I haven't been able to stop thinking about it when I listen to it and it annoys me now as well :laugh:
The Best Of the Beast album opens with NOTB and yes it makes complete sense.
Seventh Son would be so odd without the Seven deadly sins... at both the start and the end, and the way the song builds up to the first vocal line just sets the perfect mood for the whole album.
To clarify, the intro to Moonchild is great and perfect as an album opener: I just personally find the song itself fairly uneven.
Invaders is great. Gangland on the other hand, Maiden screwed up by putting it on the album instead of Total Eclipse.
Moonchild is fucking brilliant ! One of my favourite Maiden songs.
Indeed, one of their heaviest too.
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on April 06, 2025, 08:41:28 PMInvaders is great. Gangland on the other hand, Maiden screwed up by putting it on the album instead of Total Eclipse.
That drum intro though, gets the blood pumping.
A few of you might remember these gigs, 25 years ago!
£8.50 for Dismember! :laugh:IMG-20250407-WA0000.jpg
Jesus, in Slattery's? I'd say it was wedged.
I was at Cannibal.
I think Desecration played Galway round the same time too.
I saw them in Cork but I think it was a few years before that.
Desecration played Cork the night after that Dismember gig in 2000.The time before in Cork was 95 with Morphosis!
Quote from: Carnage on April 07, 2025, 01:12:12 AMJesus, in Slattery's? I'd say it was wedged.
It was in some venue upstairs on O Connell street.Was it called The Gasworks? (I've that in my head)
Doesn't ring a bell. I wasn't going to gigs around that time anyway.
It would have been the '95 Desecration gig I was at, Snare put it on if memory serves. Did Carnun play at that too?
Why are Power Metal bands forever going or coming home? Shouldn't they just stay out there getting in various scrapes with magical dragons and winning fair ladies and generally foiling evil at every turn?
(Listening to the new Judicator)
There were some good gigs in the Gasworks (I remember Primordial, Honey For Christ, Desolate).
Quote from: Thorn on April 08, 2025, 04:40:41 AMWhy are Power Metal bands forever going or coming home? Shouldn't they just stay out there getting in various scrapes with magical dragons and winning fair ladies and generally foiling evil at every turn?
(Listening to the new Judicator)
They mostly live with their mothers so that's why😂
Maybe so!
Is there anything more kvlt than this:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHzDtenhcRG/?igsh=MWZuaHF4c3ZyeWcxbQ==
:abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
Up tomorrow morning to face the record store day chaos for the first time to try get a copy of Once Upon the Cross 🤞
This is pretty crazy. So clean and what a mad looking guitar. I can't imagine how long this took to learn and do in one take.
Amazing technical skill but not a single melody that would stick in your brain. It doesn't even sound evil.
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 11, 2025, 12:55:15 PMUp tomorrow morning to face the record store day chaos for the first time to try get a copy of Once Upon the Cross 🤞
Also no luck, fuck RSD.
EDIT: Nevermind, got one, but still fuck record store day. The pokemon collecting of records.
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 12, 2025, 04:44:51 AMThis is pretty crazy. So clean and what a mad looking guitar. I can't imagine how long this took to learn and do in one take.
I had a mate who could play every Randy Rhoads solo, every Kirk Hammett solo, back in the very early 90's, when they would have been considered a very high benchmark. He was really well coordinated but he couldn't write a riff to save his life, or even create a solo which wasn't other people's licks randomly thrown together. He was fucking awful in a band situation.
This video is an impressive technical feat of coordination but the real genius is Muhammed Suiçmez writing and playing these songs and solos 20 years ago, singing while doing it too. Youtube is getting clogged with bedroom players walking in someone else's footsteps. For me, creation beats regurgitation every time.
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 11, 2025, 12:55:15 PMUp tomorrow morning to face the record store day chaos for the first time to try get a copy of Once Upon the Cross 🤞
Good luck. Pretty much the only decent thing amongst the usual rsd shite.
Eternal Idol by Sabbath is the one I want. I'll see what's left on Wednesday when I'm paid but I see Utopia in Sydney have a 2 CD version in stock so I might just grab that and play it to death in the car 8)
I have the 2CD version with both vocalists.
But have to pick up the LP re-issue as well. Will hopefully nab one in the coming weeks.
I didn't know the second CD had another singer on it. Who's the other one... Tony Martin and...?
Ray Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 12:47:33 PMRay Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.
No way. So who is better?
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 12:47:33 PMRay Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.
I kind of thought I knew all of the main points of 80s Sabbath member roller coaster absurdity. Then this comes along.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 12, 2025, 04:50:34 AMAmazing technical skill but not a single melody that would stick in your brain. It doesn't even sound evil.
Sure it's taken out of context from the rest of the instrumentation. For my wee lugs it's one of the most memorable albums ever recorded. I can hear every lead in me head no bothers.
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 07:27:30 AMQuote from: Mithrandir on April 12, 2025, 04:44:51 AMThis is pretty crazy. So clean and what a mad looking guitar. I can't imagine how long this took to learn and do in one take.
I had a mate who could play every Randy Rhoads solo, every Kirk Hammett solo, back in the very early 90's, when they would have been considered a very high benchmark. He was really well coordinated but he couldn't write a riff to save his life, or even create a solo which wasn't other people's licks randomly thrown together. He was fucking awful in a band situation.
This video is an impressive technical feat of coordination but the real genius is Muhammed Suiçmez writing and playing these songs and solos 20 years ago, singing while doing it too. Youtube is getting clogged with bedroom players walking in someone else's footsteps. For me, creation beats regurgitation every time.
The "monkey see, monkey do" effect. I know one or two heads they're good at performing others' music, but don't have a clue who to compose their own.
Then one of my other friends, she's pretty capable at sitting down to a keyboard or guitar, feeling out notes and progressions, writing vocal melodies over it, etc. Basically she's good at writing songs. Same lass has fuck all theory or interest in doing covers. She's ten times the musician the other fellas are.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 12, 2025, 12:56:46 PMQuote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 12:47:33 PMRay Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.
No way. So who is better?
For me, the Gillen version shades it, but I always had a lot of time for Badlands, the lad had an amazing voice. The Martin version is class but there are still a few bits of Gillen in there which weren't cut out of the final version.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 12, 2025, 12:56:46 PMQuote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 12:47:33 PMRay Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.
No way. So who is better?
Martin gets my vote. But I had been listening to him sing those songs since my teens. Didn't even know about Ray Gillan till decades later.
Quote from: leoos on April 12, 2025, 01:56:31 PMI kind of thought I knew all of the main points of 80s Sabbath member roller coaster absurdity. Then this comes along.
Yeah!
The post-Dio years weren't too kind to Iommi.
Martin was on the shortlist previously but Gillan got the gig. But he jumped ship before the release to start Badlands. Took Eric Singer with him, too. But his final drum parts were in the bag so made it onto the album.
Gillan's vocals were solid too. Not sure if he hadn't finished or Iommi just wanted the same singer for the albums touring cycle, so got Martin in last minute.
It was all meant to be, in my opinion. Cause we got Cozy Powell joining the mix soon after and then Headless Cross and Tyr. Two of my favourite Sabs albums.
Even though Martin came back after Dehumanizer, I read in an interview with him that he was even brought in to demo some of those albums tracks when Dio was wavering during the recordings.
He has a tape of it, but knows they'll never be made public.
Bands really do need to stop giving the middle finger in publicity photos, their Mums wont approve
'Goat I hug' came in to my mind today and brought back some very vague memories of MI. Does anyone remember what that was from? Some South American guy having that as his email sign off or something along those lines? :laugh:
Haha, that's a blast from the past alright!
Quote from: Thorn on April 04, 2025, 02:42:41 PMQuote from: Ducky on March 29, 2025, 03:57:31 PMMy local Golden Discs has seen a bump to their metal section. Picked up Carcass' "Surgical Steel" there this morning on CD as it's the vertion with the five extra tracks I don't have.
They also had stock of the new Obscura, Exodus, some Overkill albums, bunch of other stuff too. All on CD and vinyl.
Not sure if it's because of my buddy running the place is into metal himself, but it's nice to see this stuff available on the high street (in the arse-end of the country), nevertheless.
I was in this morning and picked up the live Exodus and new Cradle except when I got home I realised it's the last Cradle and I already have it. Argh. Damn them and their interchangeable album covers.
Edit : Just rang them up and it's no problem to come in and change it ,cool.
Was in with my mate the other day, they got another bit of metal/metal adjacent stuff in;
Deicide - Scars of the Crucifix, The Stench of Redemption.
Decapitated - Nihility, The Negation, Organic Hallucinosis.
Slayer - all the Def American studio releases.
Voivod - Forgotten in Space box set.
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 1, and Part 2, Walls Of Jericho.
Queensrhyche - s/t, Operation Mindcrime.
Kreator - Endless Pain.
Rush's first ten albums.
Few odds and sods from Anthrax, (early) Nine Inch Nails, Carcass, Kiss, Evile, Rob Zombie, Venom too.
Those are all CD, but he said they got a bunch of similar vinyl as well. I appreciate it's not exactly earth-shattering stuff, but it's still good to see them sussing out that yes, metal is popular with physical music buyers.
They got another copy of the new Obscura too.
That's my copy of Obscura, well he has it for me anyway. I've transferred all my Amazon orders to there instead and dealing with Francis on a weekly basis now. Top bloke!
Ah that's class. Top bloke for sure, we've been friends since 1993!
Keep it true was on this weekend. As much as I've always wanted to go I can never get over how shit that wood panelled school sports hall looks as a venue, especially in full daylight.
Was watching Sacred Steel at it last night on YouTube and you're right it does look like a school gymnasium.
I went to see Coroner in Switzerland a few years ago, Samael played too. It was in a small town called Amriswil which, for some reason, has a quite spectacular venue in the middle of town which can probably hold three times as many people as live there. You think the wood panelling is odd? Check this out :laugh: :abbath:
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Looks mental!
Yeah that looks pretty actually!
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 27, 2025, 09:13:44 PMKeep it true was on this weekend. As much as I've always wanted to go I can never get over how shit that wood panelled school sports hall looks as a venue, especially in full daylight.
"THIS WEEKEND :KEEP IT TRUE
NEXT WEEKEND CREDIT UNION TABLE QUIZ"
:laugh:
https://www.mensjournal.com/entertainment/metallica-load-new-box-set
Ah lads seriously like
Disc after disc of rough cuts and demos, and relatively little live stuff. I think the only thing of interest is the Motorhead covers, 4 of which are previously released. And I don't mind Load, some of it is pretty good. I'm surprised they didn't just do one for this and Reload, and leave it at that, no need for all this.
I can't see anyone wanting to go through 250 odd outtakes. It's ridiculous and I like both Load and Reload but seriously it has to be the most pointless thing ever.
The equivalent of finding kirk hammett's phone after the Saint Anger sessions or Death Magnetic or whatever shit he lost it during
Edit: and I'd say the band themselves don't remember half these versions
That was before Hardwired, which was marginally less shit.
Quote from: Carnage on May 01, 2025, 12:51:43 AMThat was before Hardwired, which was marginally less shit.
That's my favourite since the Load albums but that's not saying a lot
It really isn't. I thought they've been improving slightly from Death Magnetic on, but I wouldn't call any of them good albums. The last one I found surprisingly listenable but even so I've only played the CD twice.
If they'd only give them to somebody with an objective ear and the brief to trim the songs down they could be so much better.
Quote from: astfgyl on May 01, 2025, 12:47:19 AMI can't see anyone wanting to go through 250 odd outtakes. It's ridiculous and I like both Load and Reload but seriously it has to be the most pointless thing ever.
Not pointless, there's bank to be made with this stuff. Never underestimate the hardcore Metallica Bros. These dipshits would sooner listen to 250 Load/Reload outtakes than give a few quid to a band who have had a modicum of creativity in the last three decades.
These are the sort of clowns that would swear that Hammett invented lead guitar playing, St. Anger is a misunderstood masterpiece, wear their bootleg Garage Days t-shirt to their niece's communion and be upset when asked to change out of it, ask their wives to peg them and let them call her "Papa Het" and say "gimme foo gimme fiiiir gimme that which I desire" before bending over, they selected their pet dog at the shelter because they're convinced it's the reincarnation of Cliff Burton (just in Corgi form).
I pre-ordered it.
Quote from: Carnage on May 01, 2025, 02:51:58 AMIt really isn't. I thought they've been improving slightly from Death Magnetic on, but I wouldn't call any of them good albums. The last one I found surprisingly listenable but even so I've only played the CD twice.
If they'd only give them to somebody with an objective ear and the brief to trim the songs down they could be so much better.
If the songs on the last two albums were cut in half they wouldn't be terrible albums at all, I think, but they are more like fucking endurance tests in their released form
Quote from: Ducky on May 01, 2025, 11:57:19 AMQuote from: astfgyl on May 01, 2025, 12:47:19 AMI can't see anyone wanting to go through 250 odd outtakes. It's ridiculous and I like both Load and Reload but seriously it has to be the most pointless thing ever.
Not pointless, there's bank to be made with this stuff. Never underestimate the hardcore Metallica Bros. These dipshits would sooner listen to 250 Load/Reload outtakes than give a few quid to a band who have had a modicum of creativity in the last three decades.
These are the sort of clowns that would swear that Hammett invented lead guitar playing, St. Anger is a misunderstood masterpiece, wear their bootleg Garage Days t-shirt to their niece's communion and be upset when asked to change out of it, ask their wives to peg them and let them call her "Papa Het" and say "gimme foo gimme fiiiir gimme that which I desire" before bending over, they selected their pet dog at the shelter because they're convinced it's the reincarnation of Cliff Burton (just in Corgi form).
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
That's fair!
I pre-ordered it, guess I am still trying to figure this album out.
Not gonna wait out the Reload version to make this joke, so...
Caveat Emptor Baby!
Quote from: Ducky on May 01, 2025, 11:57:19 AMQuote from: astfgyl on May 01, 2025, 12:47:19 AMI can't see anyone wanting to go through 250 odd outtakes. It's ridiculous and I like both Load and Reload but seriously it has to be the most pointless thing ever.
Not pointless, there's bank to be made with this stuff. Never underestimate the hardcore Metallica Bros. These dipshits would sooner listen to 250 Load/Reload outtakes than give a few quid to a band who have had a modicum of creativity in the last three decades.
These are the sort of clowns that would swear that Hammett invented lead guitar playing, St. Anger is a misunderstood masterpiece, wear their bootleg Garage Days t-shirt to their niece's communion and be upset when asked to change out of it, ask their wives to peg them and let them call her "Papa Het" and say "gimme foo gimme fiiiir gimme that which I desire" before bending over, they selected their pet dog at the shelter because they're convinced it's the reincarnation of Cliff Burton (just in Corgi form).
New merch idea!
Birth, school, Metallica, traumatic brain injury leading to defense of their 2000s output, Death.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 01, 2025, 03:43:12 PMNot gonna wait out the Reload version to make this joke, so...
Caveat Emptor Baby!
:laugh:
I can hear it
Quote from: Carnage on May 01, 2025, 12:44:10 AMDisc after disc of rough cuts and demos, a d relatively little live stuff. I think the only thing of interest is the Motorhead covers, 4 of which are previously released. And I don't mind Load, some of it is pretty good. I'm surprised they didn't just do one for this and Reload, and leave it at that, no need for all this.
There's lots of live stuff in the box.
My main problem is that during the 90s Metallica inexplicably played only the first half of the title track of Master of Puppets live which makes no sense, either play the whole song or don't bother. This means that whenever listening to live Metallica from that era I always have to have the skip button ready for when that track comes up, or when it comes to MP3s just get rid of it from the playlist altogether.
I like Load so I'll be getting this but I do wonder if doing one box set for the whole Load/Reload era would be better, given that both albums were written about the same time and I think the original plan may have been for a double album (whatever people say about ReLoad it is NOT AN OUTTAKES ALBUM - they just did a GnR Illusions style release but with a year between parts 1 and 2 instead of on the same day).
It's a lot of money to pay for some live albums of when they were embarrassed by their best music and had truly become the shitshow known as 'tallica... ehhh... baby-ah!
Load of shite wha!
They can load and reload all they like but they'll never hit the mark again wha!
Quote from: Cosmic_Equilibrium on May 01, 2025, 05:26:39 PMI do wonder if doing one box set for the whole Load/Reload era would be better,
Metallica Inc. wants as much money from you as possible 💰
15 fucking cds.... 15!!!! I wouldn't spend my money on a box like this for one of their good albums, let alone one of their worst!
Any guesses on what the price will be?
I think I listened to this album once or twice about 20 years ago when I was 16, and I remember being very unimpressed. I had only recently gotten into Metallica, had devoured the first 5 albums and just wrote off Load and Reload as shit, because it wasn't the Metallica I wanted to listen to.
I decided to give Load another go there with an open mind. I'm about 7 tracks in and I'm enjoying it far more than I thought I would. I think the lyrics are quite shit in places, but the actual music itself is grand like.
Quote from: Giggles on May 01, 2025, 09:50:03 PMI think I listened to this album once or twice about 20 years ago when I was 16, and I remember being very unimpressed. I had only recently gotten into Metallica, had devoured the first 5 albums and just wrote off Load and Reload as shit, because it wasn't the Metallica I wanted to listen to.
I decided to give Load another go there with an open mind. I'm about 7 tracks in and I'm enjoying it far more than I thought I would. I think the lyrics are quite shit in places, but the actual music itself is grand like.
They honestly should have kept the Danzig /AIC /COC influence. It would have suited them far better as they matured instead of the diminishing returns.
Quote from: Giggles on May 01, 2025, 07:55:31 PMQuote from: Giggles on May 01, 2025, 07:55:31 PMLoad of shite wha!
They can load and reload all they like but they'll never hit the mark again wha!
Quote from: Cosmic_Equilibrium on May 01, 2025, 05:26:39 PMI do wonder if doing one box set for the whole Load/Reload era would be better,
Metallica Inc. wants as much money from you as possible 💰
15 fucking cds.... 15!!!! I wouldn't spend my money on a box like this for one of their good albums, let alone one of their worst!
Any guesses on what the price will be?
Any guesses on what the price will be?
Over 300 euro!
I've all 5 of the older box sets and they were all cheaper and are brilliant sets (especially the Justice box)
I do like Load. It's not within an asses roar of any of the older albums but it has its charms. It's essentially them showcasing their Danzig, COC and Alice In Chains influences all while dressed like Smashing Pumpkins and Janes Addiction. Mad that compared to what was to come after that it sounds amazing in comparison.
They can get fucked with the price of this though. The problem with the material from the Internet era is that almost the entire thing is out online in some capacity already so I'd have been hard pushed to go to 120 euros for this just for the sake of completion.
I never want to get in the habit of boxsets, records are pricey enough as it is and demos are usually a listen once and never again deal.
Quote from: Giggles on May 01, 2025, 09:50:03 PMI think I listened to this album once or twice about 20 years ago when I was 16, and I remember being very unimpressed. I had only recently gotten into Metallica, had devoured the first 5 albums and just wrote off Load and Reload as shit, because it wasn't the Metallica I wanted to listen to.
I decided to give Load another go there with an open mind. I'm about 7 tracks in and I'm enjoying it far more than I thought I would. I think the lyrics are quite shit in places, but the actual music itself is grand like.
Yeah it's a very solid hard rock record. Reload is patchier but has some great songs too.
The two albums stand out to me as the last time they sounded genuine from an artistic PoV.
Yeah the Loads do have a much more genuine feel to them than trying to force themselves to still play thrash. I think they should just do Load part 3 for their next album, it would feel more true to themselves.
They won't do that now. They seem to have success with a new audience by using chat GPT to create their 72 seasons effort so they'll do the same again next time
They should join with Iron Maiden to form Maidtallica and combine their go-nowhere riffs with ol' 'Arry's interminable repetition. A 60 CD set with a special die hard editing that comes with its own therapist.
The extra loud bass will be a problem for Papa Het
Shrodinger's bass mix.
I'd have zero interest in listening to a haggart of outtakes and rough cuts anyway. Yeah sometimes a bands demo version will be a much rawer effort that really appeals more than the fully polished finished product but fuck sifting through hundreds of versions of the same songs :laugh:
I'm looking at this metal flash sheet and most are pretty obvious but the ones I've circled are driving me mad, I know I recognize them but can't work out what bands they are arghhhh
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Left one Bal Sagoth? Probably not, just first instinct.
It's like the helmet on Conan's Horseback Battle Hammer or that Gates Of Slumber album.
Googling declares us both wrong :( It's irritatingly familiar
Got it, it's one of Averill's helmets.
Storm of the Lights Bane?
Edit. Nope. It is familiar though. No idea on the other one and the skull with the chilli means nothing to me.
Nope, I checked Bolt Thrower, Manilla Road ,Satyricon and Celtic Frost but not there either. Oh, Manilla Road are already there. Fuck this, just before bed :(
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 07, 2025, 10:24:10 PMStorm of the Lights Bane?
Edit. Nope. It is familiar though. No idea on the other one and the skull with the chilli means nothing to me.
It's the little bit that hangs off the chain on the Motorhead logo/snaggletooth mascot!
Quote from: Thorn on May 07, 2025, 10:30:03 PMNope, I checked Bolt Thrower, Manilla Road ,Satyricon and Celtic Frost but not there either. Oh, Manilla Road are already there. Fuck this, just before bed :(
:laugh: :laugh: Maddening isn't it!
Very maddening but it's not Motorhead. Not Emperor, Enslaved, Marduk...ah someone will have it when I wake up tomorrow. Right? It looks Japanese, Sigh?.Sabbat?
I'm referring to the skull chili, it's definitely Motorhead!
Oh right, soz!
Quote from: Mithrandir on May 07, 2025, 11:09:04 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on May 07, 2025, 10:24:10 PMStorm of the Lights Bane?
Edit. Nope. It is familiar though. No idea on the other one and the skull with the chilli means nothing to me.
It's the little bit that hangs off the chain on the Motorhead logo/snaggletooth mascot!
Ahhh, of course!
I'm pretty sure the one on the left is Judas Priest Hero, Hero
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIASH15JDC5/?igsh=MXcxbnNvMXZncHpwNA==
This artist has tagged the one on the right as Slayer. I can't for the life of me place that as Slayer though.
Feeling very if you are false do not entry tbh.
The one on the right is from the Slayer Def Jam demo.
Never saw that pic before.
I need to leave the hall... Couldn't place half of those.
The black inverted cross is annoying me. Can't pin it down.
Would never have got that Slayer one if that's what it is, fair play
There's a few (including the circled ones) that I can't place, though they look familiar: the two top middle ones, bottom left and the one middle right.
Quote from: GravyCapone on May 08, 2025, 08:39:50 AMI'm pretty sure the one on the left is Judas Priest Hero, Hero
Yes, that's it! My brain was looking too underground, Brocas Helm and so on.
Quote from: Carnage on May 08, 2025, 01:30:21 PMThere's a few (including the circled ones) thay I can't place, though they look familiar: the two top middle ones, bottom left and the one middle left.
The inverted cross/ claw/ devil Horns at the top is Bathory. Bottom left is Hellhammer. By middle left do you mean Black Sabbath demon or Morbid Angel necronomicon sigil?
Fuck, I meant middle right, sorry. Brainfart. So it's just the upsidedown cross and skull with the horned helmet now.
Ah yeah, I see the Hellhammer and Bathory now, thanks.
Repulsion?
Or middle far right, which is Manilla Road.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 08, 2025, 01:38:32 PMQuote from: GravyCapone on May 08, 2025, 08:39:50 AMI'm pretty sure the one on the left is Judas Priest Hero, Hero
Yes, that's it! My brain was looking too underground, Brocas Helm and so on.
Yeah fair play Gravy but I've got to admit I've never laid eyes on that cover or even heard of that release so I was kinda fucked from the off.
Whats the bottom right corner skull?
Quote from: Mithrandir on May 07, 2025, 11:09:04 PMQuote from: Eoin McLove on May 07, 2025, 10:24:10 PMthe skull with the chilli means nothing to me.
It's the little bit that hangs off the chain on the Motorhead logo/snaggletooth mascot!
I had no idea for that one either.
Quote from: Carnage on May 07, 2025, 09:55:16 PMIt's like the helmet on Conan's Horseback Battle Hammer or that Gates Of Slumber album.
Technically it is the one of the TGOS release as a they did "Villain, Villain" as a tribute to it and just made it black and white
Ah, I'm not cpmpletely losing it so.
Quote from: GravyCapone on May 08, 2025, 08:39:50 AMI'm pretty sure the one on the left is Judas Priest Hero, Hero
Ahhh nice one!! I've seen that cover but I would have never of got that the direction I was searching, closest I got was Saxon!
Quote from: Maggot Colony on May 08, 2025, 09:44:07 AMThe one on the right is from the Slayer Def Jam demo.
Ahhh yes! I was searching metal blade related things but would have never have gotten to Slayer either. I can rest easy now.
I know all of them now apart from the inverted black cross which I just assumed was a random black cross but the more I think of it it's likely from something.
Same, the one middle right turns out to be Manilla Road. I'd nevwr have gotten that as I can't abide them.
Would've never got Slayer, Priest or Motorhead.
I got Slayer...
Spoiler
entirely because I landed on this page first and played that demo all the way through while eating me tea
:abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
What's this all about now? 🤔🤔
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Thinking about Electric Wizard last night. Dopethrone is so much better than the rest of their catalog it isn't even funny but also, as much as Funeralopolis is unreal, the peak of the album lies here: https://youtu.be/Ofd14Iz2dYU?si=7b0yDUjQE4RRY6Oc
I prefer Come My Fanatics. Dopethrone is great, but it could have done with some trimming.
Dopethrone is the only one I actually own (and I paid stupid money for it on import, too), I must remedy that. Hard to pick a favourite but it'd be that or Witchcult Today for me. Both very different but WT is so bloody catchy in places that it lives in your head for ages afterward. Dopethrone is just filth, good filth.
CMF is class too to be fair. Dopethrone dips a little in the back half but I still love it. Originally only particularly liked one or two songs off it originally when I heard it but it became a regular background album in a place I worked years back and from there I grew to love the whole thing.
Dopethrone is great but Come My Fanatics is their finest hour.
Let Us Prey is underrated too.
Went to see Abigail last night, fuck they ruled!! Place was feral, I was wasted and was launching off the monitors :laugh: getting a bit old for that shit now but fun night all the same.
Quote from: Carnage on May 09, 2025, 10:30:56 AMDopethrone is the only one I actually own (and I paid stupid money for it on import, too), I must remedy that. Hard to pick a favourite but it'd be that or Witchcult Today for me. Both very different but WT is so bloody catchy in places that it lives in your head for ages afterward. Dopethrone is just filth, good filth.
I have a real soft spot for Black Masses, of all things
I'm the opposite, I found that one disappointing. I haven't liked anything they've done since Witchcult Today TBH.
It's completely different to be fair and I haven't checked anything of theirs out since but it just went down well for me
It's very similar to WT, maybe that was my issue with it in that it was like a retread of it. I love WT as well, so I dunno.
Ya, I'm a fan of Black Masses.
Killer cover of War Pigs in Ethiopian language of Amharic with added King Crimson style sax for good measure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kVYdLjoyPE
Kings of Thrash (Dave Ellefson/Jeff Young) have released their first (?) original, pretty rough to say the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9eqD1kMDqQ&
Jesus that's poor.
If Anvil were a thrash band
Quote from: The Heretic on May 17, 2025, 06:31:07 PMIf Anvil were a thrash band
:laugh: :laugh:
Jeff Young is starting to look a little like Lips too tbh!
The first three Anvil albums are top notch 80's metal. Slag the rest but leave those 3 alone >:(
Shitehawkery
Quote from: ldj on May 17, 2025, 05:00:52 PMKings of Thrash (Dave Ellefson/Jeff Young) have released their first (?) original, pretty rough to say the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9eqD1kMDqQ&
Is the opening not just She Wolf?!
Dave Elfson play in a band with a lad that can actually sing; challenge level = impossible.
What an amazing song and video. On point lyrically too, of course. A timeless, powerful production job helps and those vocals- my word, somehow they are playful and inventive while commanding your attention with a weight and gravitas that instantly puts him among the pantheon of the greats. Kings of Thrash really is the only band name appropriate for this work. I love it.
0/10
It all sounds so juvenile. That's probably what attracted Ellefson to the project in the first place though
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yeah of all the former Megadeth members to team up with, he picked Jeff Young
He always like playing with young
Cleopatra records too. No suprises there. They were putting out the "new " Dead Boys record with the AI Stiv Bators vocals.
Are System Of A Down just Mr Bungle worshippers with bigger guitar tone and politics.?. Case in point, 'Chop Suey' time changes, heavy/alternative/grunge all in the space of a few minutes, but more irritating than Bungle. Never got the hype.
Quote from: leatherface on May 19, 2025, 03:36:21 PMAre System Of A Down just Mr Bungle worshippers with bigger guitar tone and politics.?. Case in point, 'Chop Suey' time changes, heavy/alternative/grunge all in the space of a few minutes, but more irritating than Bungle. Never got the hype.
Disco Volante wants a word with you
Quote from: leatherface on May 19, 2025, 03:36:21 PMAre System Of A Down just Mr Bungle worshippers with bigger guitar tone and politics.?. Case in point, 'Chop Suey' time changes, heavy/alternative/grunge all in the space of a few minutes, but more irritating than Bungle. Never got the hype.
The Nu Metal brigade did lift a fair bit from the first album for sure. Thieving cunts!
Ah yeah there's a lot of bands clearly influenced by the debut but Disco Volante seems to have rubbed off on nobody at all really. Probably just impossible, I'm sure many would try otherwise
Was on about it here before somewhere, SOAD lifted a lot off Primus for sure.
I must give Mr. Bungle another go, listened to some of their stuff over the years but never thought much of it.
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on May 19, 2025, 09:31:10 PMWas on about it here before somewhere, SOAD lifted a lot off Primus for sure.
I must give Mr. Bungle another go, listened to some of their stuff over the years but never thought much of it.
Three fucking brilliant albums and then the last thing which did nothing for me. They're all very different to one another so if you don't like one that wouldn't necessarily mean you wouldn't like the others.
Disco Volante is one of the best things by anyone ever
The first SOAD is great. I was never into Mr Bungle but siesta detected a Patton influence. SOAD has more of a punk energy on the debut. I've said it before but the production on the debut is savage. The guitars are nasty as hell. I probably wouldn't get so much out of it these days but when it came out it really stood out in a sea of shit as being something quite fresh and exciting.
Always thought they were closer to Faith No More than Mr. Bungle myself. I remember at Ozzfest Serj started talking about some major influence on them and I was certain he was going to say FNM but then it was Slayer, so presumably just a sort of fan thing since Araya and the lads were playing after them. A slightly metallized FNM with their own Armenian twist. Listening to the debut here now for the first time in fucking ages. It absolutely pumps along :abbath:
The first album still sounds savage and its down to that D Sardy mix on it. (Rubin doing his usual :shows up once a week, sits on a couch collects 50 grand, fucks off)
He also did Undisputed Attitude and Imprint by Vision Of Disorder.
Yeah that first album always sounded like a record full of "The Gentle Art of Making Enemies", with some lad who has serious hero worship for Jello Biafra squawking over it.
Just hearing Eivor- Tróllabundin on Uncharted with Ray Goggins ( with Kneecap)
Enjoyed the fuck out of that show.
Iommi has to get Tony Martin or someone back for a new album now, can't go to the grave with his last recorded output being with Robbie Williams, them's the rules.
Quote from: ldj on May 21, 2025, 10:54:00 PMIommi has to get Tony Martin or someone back for a new album now, can't go to the grave with his last recorded output being with Robbie Williams, them's the rules.
But he's making all that "Parfum" money nowadays 😂😂😂😂
https://www.xerjoff.com/blends/9809-tony-iommi-monkey-special-parfum-50ml.html?srsltid=AfmBOoo0zSehC6oh62ALt5Jvy06oTQrFPXGcgf6lTruBbCN3OxHNlV7a
Quote from: Sworntothecans on May 22, 2025, 04:32:24 PMQuote from: ldj on May 21, 2025, 10:54:00 PMIommi has to get Tony Martin or someone back for a new album now, can't go to the grave with his last recorded output being with Robbie Williams, them's the rules.
But he's making all that "Parfum" money nowadays 😂😂😂😂
https://www.xerjoff.com/blends/9809-tony-iommi-monkey-special-parfum-50ml.html?srsltid=AfmBOoo0zSehC6oh62ALt5Jvy06oTQrFPXGcgf6lTruBbCN3OxHNlV7a
'Xerjoff' is an anagram of jerx off :sniffles:
Quote from: Giggles on May 22, 2025, 11:10:54 PMQuote from: Sworntothecans on May 22, 2025, 04:32:24 PMQuote from: ldj on May 21, 2025, 10:54:00 PMIommi has to get Tony Martin or someone back for a new album now, can't go to the grave with his last recorded output being with Robbie Williams, them's the rules.
But he's making all that "Parfum" money nowadays 😂😂😂😂
https://www.xerjoff.com/blends/9809-tony-iommi-monkey-special-parfum-50ml.html?srsltid=AfmBOoo0zSehC6oh62ALt5Jvy06oTQrFPXGcgf6lTruBbCN3OxHNlV7a
'Xerjoff' is an anagram of jerx off :sniffles:
The company owner Hans Xerjoff is absolutely gutted but now realizes why everyone laughed at him at school.
Here's a pretty random one, I was searching something completely unrelated on Google and was linked to this Instagram post of this cool logo of a band from 2015 that I can't find any existence of. Anyone ever heard of them?
(https://i.ibb.co/V016wCSp/Screenshot-20250529-181304.png)
Never heard of them. Nice logo alright.
Steve Grimmet is just the greatest heavy metal singer of all time, if he sang on St.Angry I probably would have liked it.
Quote from: Mithrandir on May 30, 2025, 04:49:48 AMSteve Grimmet is just the greatest heavy metal singer of all time, if he sang on St.Angry I probably would have liked it.
Aye, very underrated. The daft hairdo and the fact he looked like Roy Kinnear from Willy Wonka probably held him back.
Doubt he could have saved St Anger though. 😂
I'm not sure if this link will work but fucking hell this is bad :laugh:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1GG7cNQEwr/
Fucking hell, put this on hoping to hear some old Aussie madness/Slaughter Lord stories but I'm half way into this and it's just 2 old cunts whinging about "the wokies, the Lefty's, the gays", just a whole load of "back in my day" old man shouts at cloud bullshit, a painful listen.
Yeah, Hughes fell fully down that sad hole quite a few years ago unfortunately. Pity, he was quite a good comedian before he started taking it seriously.
Absolutely. Sound head all the same.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 12, 2025, 07:25:59 PMYeah, Hughes fell fully down that sad hole quite a few years ago unfortunately. Pity, he was quite a good comedian before he started taking it seriously.
That's a shame, I haven't kept up in years but remember liking his stand up. Absolutely no interest now based on this podcast.
New Katatonia inlay photos, has Daniel Moilanen just completely morphed into Paddy from Emmerdale?
The amazing change at 3:55
Jesus christ, the dickhead quota really has been exceeded there.
I was listening to Imrama today and was wondering if it's even possible to capture that kind of sound recording these days, that perfect black metal mix where the drums are muffled and low and mingle sludgily), for lack of a better term, with the bass. The guitars don't necessarily always bite through either, it all melds beautifully into one dark atmospheric mass. Too much clarity and technicality kills that buzz I think.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 25, 2025, 10:16:29 AMI was listening to Imrama today and was wondering if it's even possible to capture that kind of sound recording these days, that perfect black metal mix where the drums are muffled and low and mingle sludgily), for lack of a better term, with the bass. The guitars don't necessarily always bite through either, it all melds beautifully into one dark atmospheric mass. Too much clarity and technicality kills that buzz I think.
I often think about how maybe my favourite BM production of all time is Mayhem's Ordo Ad Chao for a similar sort of reason. It is dark and atmospheric rather than technical, but remains clear, suits the whole thing absolutely perfectly. Obviously tons of examples and in a lot of cases probably more technical than we are imagining. Fuck knows I struggle to mic amp up to do anything I actually want :laugh:
It's possible, definitely. There's nothing in digital recording that forces clarity, it just makes clarity far easier to achieve than the recording setups of old. A lot of the late 70's and early 80's albums sound the way they do due to engineers and producers who had no idea what to do with Metal, they were experienced in other forms of music, usually far slower tempo, and applied those techniques to high tempo Metal bands who, for many, were inexperienced at recording, on a tight budget with a clock ticking down in a studio with limited tracks, limited outboard gear and went with whatever the experienced head said to them. It's why there's so much fucking reverb on a lot of old stuff. In lower tempo music, you can use long reverb, in particular, to fill space, make things sound bigger. In high tempo Metal, there was no need, in fact, it made that indistinct soup of a sound many of us grew up on. Then everything got clicky. So, yeah, it's totally possible but too many people know too much now, have too many tracks with too many plugins and too many presets so everything sounds the same. Digital and Protools are often portrayed as the problem but, as ever, it's people. Digital recording just makes it easier not to sound muddy, if that's what someone chooses, but the old sounds are there if you want.
Yeah, that seems logical. But then, even murky bands these days sound different in their murkiness. It might be harder than it looks to capture that magical ineptitude in practice.
Wrong thread
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 25, 2025, 11:47:48 AMYeah, that seems logical. But then, even murky bands these days sound different in their murkiness. It might be harder than it looks to capture that magical ineptitude in practice.
Yeah it's a strange concept, albums that have a great or unique sound but only due to their limitations at the time vs recording on professional state of the art gear trying to make it sound like it was recorded on an 8-track.
Buggermeister's comment in the off topic thread about similar band names reminded me of that band LVTHN, surely that's just like calling yourself TTNBLD?!
EON MCLV
:laugh:
Waa talking to my manager in work yesterday about the Maiden gig, never knew he was into them but turns out he's travelled all over Europe for their shows and seen them about 30 times
So was asking about some other stuff he'd listen to, and he says other than Maiden he doesn't really like metal. Found it very strange how he could be so big into one band, but have zero interest in anything else similar
Would your manager fella not even give some Judas Priest a whirl? Mad that stuff cut from effectively the same cloth is a no-go.
Or would he be into say hard rock, and Maiden is as "heavy" as it gets?
Lads, the answer is simple. He's a muppet.
He's a nice fella, but yeah, thinking he might just be a muppet! :laugh:
I found that too back in school in the 90s, loads of guys in my year were mad into Metallica and nothing else, maybe a bit of Sep and Slayer. They used to think I was weird because I was more into Carcass, Godflesh, Gorguts etc. Spotted one of them a few weeks ago, still wearing a Metallica t-shirt, still hasn't branched out obviously, sigh...
Quote from: Trev on June 27, 2025, 11:33:39 AMHe's a nice fella, but yeah, thinking he might just be a muppet! :laugh:
Pastor of Muppets. Wrong band, mind.
There's some kind of rumour/story according to which this is (or at some stage was) Harrison Ford's favourite album. Pretty run of the mill virtuoso stuff, bizarre all the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilur1vq_TuI
Snackrificial Soupicide.
Takeawayicide?
It's how many of us here are likely to go :laugh:
Quote from: Trev on June 27, 2025, 10:36:00 AMWaa talking to my manager in work yesterday about the Maiden gig, never knew he was into them but turns out he's travelled all over Europe for their shows and seen them about 30 times
So was asking about some other stuff he'd listen to, and he says other than Maiden he doesn't really like metal. Found it very strange how he could be so big into one band, but have zero interest in anything else similar
It's quite a common thing for some reason within a certain cross section of Maiden fans. Especially the stamp collectors who want every shirt, single variant, album format etc. Little to no interest in anything else. Encountered quite a few over the years.
Shallow be thy name!
It popped into my head to revisit Gorement. I picked up a reissue of The Ending Quest years ago but it didn't really click and I left it on the shelf. Time to see if its time has come... but, the "random" bit, if that's even the right word, is that I had it in my head all this time that they were French and only now realise they were Swedish. I must have known they were Swedish at the time I bought the CD. Dunno where the confusion came in.
Quote from: Thanatos on June 30, 2025, 10:37:32 AMQuote from: Trev on June 27, 2025, 10:36:00 AMWaa talking to my manager in work yesterday about the Maiden gig, never knew he was into them but turns out he's travelled all over Europe for their shows and seen them about 30 times
So was asking about some other stuff he'd listen to, and he says other than Maiden he doesn't really like metal. Found it very strange how he could be so big into one band, but have zero interest in anything else similar
It's quite a common thing for some reason within a certain cross section of Maiden fans. Especially the stamp collectors who want every shirt, single variant, album format etc. Little to no interest in anything else. Encountered quite a few over the years.
I don't find that odd at all because 90% of what I listen to is metal and I can't stand Maiden. Don't like Judas Priest, Megadeth and lots of those other mainstream metal bands either. Old Metallica and Black Sabbath would be the only mainstream / classic metal stuff I can think of that I am into.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 30, 2025, 12:11:38 PMIt popped into my head to revisit Gorement. I picked up a reissue of The Ending Quest years ago but it didn't really click and I left it on the shelf. Time to see if its time has come... but, the "random" bit, if that's even the right word, is that I had it in my head all this time that they were French and only now realise they were Swedish. I must have known they were Swedish at the time I bought the CD. Dunno where the confusion came in.
The eps are great, but as is often the case with bands of that era (see also Eucharist) the full length is flattened by terrible sound. A lot of those bands are better in short bursts.
Quote from: Trev on June 27, 2025, 10:36:00 AMWaa talking to my manager in work yesterday about the Maiden gig, never knew he was into them but turns out he's travelled all over Europe for their shows and seen them about 30 times
So was asking about some other stuff he'd listen to, and he says other than Maiden he doesn't really like metal. Found it very strange how he could be so big into one band, but have zero interest in anything else similar
This used to drive me crazy when I was younger, the lads I'd hang out with listened to Metallica/Megadeth/Pantera/black Sabbath but anything deeper than that they didn't give a fuck about, acted like I pretending to like all the other stuff or that I was some sort of snob because I got bored of that stuff pretty fast. They're the "I used to be/still am a rocker" knows the classics type music fans now.
Quote from: Thanatos on June 30, 2025, 10:37:32 AMQuote from: Trev on June 27, 2025, 10:36:00 AMWaa talking to my manager in work yesterday about the Maiden gig, never knew he was into them but turns out he's travelled all over Europe for their shows and seen them about 30 times
So was asking about some other stuff he'd listen to, and he says other than Maiden he doesn't really like metal. Found it very strange how he could be so big into one band, but have zero interest in anything else similar
It's quite a common thing for some reason within a certain cross section of Maiden fans. Especially the stamp collectors who want every shirt, single variant, album format etc. Little to no interest in anything else. Encountered quite a few over the years.
You're right, nothing worse than the "I love Iron Maiden but don't listen to metal crowd", I've met a load of them in person and online. They always tend to love the newer albums more as well.
I always thought the most annoying Maiden fans were the I hate Bruce, they were better with Paul crowd. Thankfully there isn't many if them about these days.
I think the first album is one of their best, if not THE best. But sure. I like ol' Bruce too. I have even considered picking up the what's his name's ones...
Quote from: Mithrandir on June 30, 2025, 09:10:16 PMQuote from: Trev on June 27, 2025, 10:36:00 AMWaa talking to my manager in work yesterday about the Maiden gig, never knew he was into them but turns out he's travelled all over Europe for their shows and seen them about 30 times
So was asking about some other stuff he'd listen to, and he says other than Maiden he doesn't really like metal. Found it very strange how he could be so big into one band, but have zero interest in anything else similar
This used to drive me crazy when I was younger, the lads I'd hang out with listened to Metallica/Megadeth/Pantera/black Sabbath but anything deeper than that they didn't give a fuck about, acted like I pretending to like all the other stuff or that I was some sort of snob because I got bored of that stuff pretty fast. They're the "I used to be/still am a rocker" knows the classics type music fans now.
This is almost everyone I know into "metal". Some of them legitimately think I'm trolling them.
Then I've a mate who's into all the obvious bands, plus a few more. He's a big Sabbath fan, played him some Trouble, Candlemass, Pentagram, The Obsessed. He thought they were all decent, but zero interest in actually listening to them (vs. spinning Paranoid for the zillionth time). Same vibe with Merciful Faith - played some Portrait, but it never stuck.
A friend of mine was blasting Black Sabbath's 'Heaven and Hell' while stuck in a traffic jam in Cork today (not sure which song).
Some randomer flung a slice of cheese in through the passenger window at him (easy-single, still wrapped), called him a 'Devil Man' and tore off up the hard shoulder 🤷
Free cheese... still wrapped? A good day for all, IMO.
Children Of The Cheese
'fuck goes round with easi- singles in the car to fling at folk? That's some Father Ted drive -by shooting shit.
Just one slice? Lonely is the Curd
Emmental Funeral
Wheels Of Cheese
:laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Giggles on July 02, 2025, 10:07:42 PMA friend of mine was blasting Black Sabbath's 'Heaven and Hell' while stuck in a traffic jam in Cork today (not sure which song).
Some randomer flung a slice of cheese in through the passenger window at him (easy-single, still wrapped), called him a 'Devil Man' and tore off up the hard shoulder 🤷
:laugh:
This might be my favourite post pm this board ever
Curdling Yourself to Live.
Iron Manchego.
Halloumi in the Sky.
Children Of The Grate
I dunno if I put this here before but it popped into my head that you could do a mashup of Biohazard - Authority and of Will Smith - Boom Shake The Room. The idea is stuck in my head for the last hour. Just the chorus because thankfully I can't remember how the rest of the Smith one goes :laugh:
random metal thought of the evening - Macabre somehow pulling of the trick of being genuinely funny whilst not coming across as a novelty band is pretty amazing.
Appetite for Destruction is the greatest fluke in musical history. Genius collection of songs, played, recorded and mixed to perfection. Nothing these cunts have recorded since 1987 is really worth a flying fuck, however. Yeah, there might be ok reasonable album if you scraped the best songs out of the Illusions and did something about that fucking awful guitar sound but, come on let's be honest, even that is not a good album, never mind a great album. The rest? Yeah, exactly.
So I put it to you, the greatest fluke of all fucking time and the chancers live off it to this day, almost 40 years of abject mediocrity later.
Furthermore, that they continue to fill stadiums with a lad who simply cannot sing anymore, two lads just cashing the cheques and a collection of charisma-free goons is proof, as if it were needed, that people will hear what they want to hear, pay big for it and convince themselves they are truly living their best lives, all because of one truly magnificent record.
Greatest fluke ever.
Well!
You're not wrong, I suppose.
What about Lies?
I agree about the guitar tone on Illusions being weak, but the whole thing, or much of it, sounds like it was written on piano. The guitar seems to take a back seat in the orchestration. Still, part 2 is mostly savage I think.
Have seen G'n'R twice, around 2007 and around 2018. Both times were class. On the reunion one, Duff and especially Slash gave it socks, the latter barely leaving the stage for over two and a half hours. No complaints. Use Your Illusions II is indeed mostly savage.
I'd tend to agree with oul Burgger there, but what an album in fairness. Reading that post as well just reminded me of this lad in Waterford who'd be stationed at the front of City Square shopping centre collecting money for whatever charity when I was a kid, and whenever me and my friends walked past wearing band tshirts he'd see us coming and start shouting "Well lads!Guns N'Roses!Metallica!Axl Rose!" without fail :laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 15, 2025, 10:40:37 AMWhat about Lies?
Does it really count!
"Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide" with a few new (mostly) accoustic tracks and an alt version of an Appetite song.
And it is the business 8)
Quote from: Bürggermeister on July 15, 2025, 09:34:03 AMAppetite for Destruction is the greatest fluke in musical history. Genius collection of songs, played, recorded and mixed to perfection. Nothing these cunts have recorded since 1987 is really worth a flying fuck, however. Yeah, there might be ok reasonable album if you scraped the best songs out of the Illusions and did something about that fucking awful guitar sound but, come on let's be honest, even that is not a good album, never mind a great album. The rest? Yeah, exactly.
So I put it to you, the greatest fluke of all fucking time and the chancers live off it to this day, almost 40 years of abject mediocrity later.
Can't really disagree with this. Loved the Illusion albums as a young lad but to be fair, anything with a parental advisory sticker had me sold back then. I think you'd be hard pushed to get even half a decent album out of the two.
There's some skips on UYI 1&2, but they're still brilliant. The missteps usually come from Axl sneaking back in when the rest of them fucked off and getting notions.
And The Spaghetti Incident is class too!
Ah lad... jaysus...
Líes and Appetite are the only GNR albums worth a listen, though Líes is not a proper album per se .
Out Ta Get Me, Anything Goes, You're Crazy are all b-side fillers. Appetite is great, but has enough filler to drag it down to 8/10.
And while the UYI albums are mostly meh, You Could Be Mine is easily my favourite G'n'R song, so II can always have a spot on my shelf.
What was the buzz with these lads back in the day anyways? Didn't they break big around the same time as thrash? Fuck all "dangerous" sounding about Paradise City when the likes of Angel of Death and Damage Inc. landed in close proximity. Or am I just being deliberately dense for expecting all these songs long (about 13 years) after the fact? I do remember seeing G'n'R on the telly in the 80s as a kid, but not Metallica (and defo not Slayer), so were the acceptable "dangerous" face of mainstream rock?
Appetite is flawless, Rocket Queen being the best song.
The UYI albums are blaoted, yes but there's some seriously good stuff there between them. I've been meaning to do a Load/Reload style 'best of' for years, I must get on it.
Lies is mighty. The Spaghetti thing is unlistenable shite, as is Chinese Egostroking.
Quote from: Carnage on July 16, 2025, 01:27:27 AMAppetite is flawless, Rocket Queen being the best song.
Lies is mighty.
Affirmative.
Rocket Queen or Mr Brownstone for me, not sure I could pick between them. Don't think I would care if I never heard Sweet Child again in my life though.
Quote from: Ducky on July 15, 2025, 11:46:41 PMWhat was the buzz with these lads back in the day anyways?
Fuck all "dangerous" sounding about Paradise City...
It was more the bands attitude and reputaion that gave them the 'dangerous' tag
Ya, the Illusion albums both have some filler, but if it was condensed into one album, it'd be the greatest rock album of all time and definite 10/10, imo.
I also agree with whoever said Appetite has a couple of duds preventing it from being 10/10. And that's not even including Sweet Child...which I never need to hear again.
Other than My World I don't think there's any truly bad songs on the UYI albums, just songs that are better than others. Ironically the shorter/rockier songs are mostly the filler, should have ditched the covers/alt version of Don't Cry too.
But a single album comprised of your Comas, Locomotives, November Rains, Estranged etc would have been an interesting beast.
I actually like The Spaghetti Incident
Quote from: ldj on July 16, 2025, 11:36:24 AMOther than My World I don't think there's any truly bad songs on the UYI albums
My name is Get In The Ring and I'm an alcoholic.
Get in the Ring is essential to the overall schtick of the album(s), you couldn't be getting rid of that.
God no, that's the first one I'd ditch. Awful racket.
Ah no, it's bolshy and ridiculous but it works.
Having never listened to Lulu, I still reckon the worst of it couldn't be as bad as My World.
Lulu, the two songs I've partly listened to are in a league of their own.
I've never experienced morbid curiosity like this.... May report back.
80s Japanese Hair Metal might be the best thing I've only discovered in my late 40s. They all look like Tigertailz and Ciinderella but sound considerably more outrageous .It's wonderfully ridiculous. Behold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siocdhs8bzE
Threw it on in the background on the headphones. A lot of entertaining shite :laugh: :abbath: but I had to go have a dig when I heard this Realm-esque track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDFwn7IRXhg
Only to then be surprised to discover that the one demo they had is actually solid doom!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ok9dSSNBWU
I was about to mention them, searching for more by them is what lead me to that video. They're the stand out by far. Great band, closer to doom than the high energy glam/soft rock of the rest of it. That band Toya , if you close your eyes, aren't far off ultra melodic 90s Fat Wreck poppunk either, it's like listening to Poison covering Nofx :laugh:
Great minds think arike!
Quote from: Ducky on July 15, 2025, 11:46:41 PMOut Ta Get Me, Anything Goes, You're Crazy are all b-side fillers. Appetite is great, but has enough filler to drag it down to 8/10.
And while the UYI albums are mostly meh, You Could Be Mine is easily my favourite G'n'R song, so II can always have a spot on my shelf.
What was the buzz with these lads back in the day anyways? Didn't they break big around the same time as thrash? Fuck all "dangerous" sounding about Paradise City when the likes of Angel of Death and Damage Inc. landed in close proximity. Or am I just being deliberately dense for expecting all these songs long (about 13 years) after the fact? I do remember seeing G'n'R on the telly in the 80s as a kid, but not Metallica (and defo not Slayer), so were the acceptable "dangerous" face of mainstream rock?
They were being contrasted with hair metal at the time, not thrash (which was still mainly underground bar Metallica having a video for One). Hair metal had entered its overly poppy, power ballad phase whereas Guns were seen as a dirtier, realer, more Rolling Stones kind of spin on it.
As for the UYI albums, the only song I truly love is You Could Be Mine, and I respect that November Rain is a huge hit. And guess what? Both were written during the Appetite sessions and deliberately left off (they opted for Welcome to the Jungle and Sweet Child O' Mine instead of those two). So there might be something in the claim that the Appetite sessions were the only good thing they did as I don't think they wrote a truly great song after that. Not sure I'd call it a fluke, prob more like they were just too messed up Appetite, plus the pressure of suddenly enormous stardom to come up with anything great.
Not like they're the runaway, uncontested two best tracks on UYI though. Civil War is arguably at least as good a song as November Rain, Locomotive arguably at least as good a song as You Could Be Mine, etc.
Just reading that the first 4 Burzum albums and Aske were recorded between January 1992 and March 1993. It's astonishing to think that these hugely influential releases were created in such a short time frame, especially when you consider the leap in style from the self-titled to Filosofem.
Makes you wonder what Varg would have achieved next if he didn't get himself locked up. He might still have gone down the ambient route but it could have been much better if he had access to more than a prison keyboard.
I think that Belus and Fallen fit really nicely in with the progression of the pre- prison stuff. Different, certainly, and nowhere near as dark, but full of inventiveness and brilliant song writing. Even the new demo stuff sounds like it would be a winner if recorded properly.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 17, 2025, 10:24:28 AM... demo stuff sounds like it would be a winner if recorded properly.
Lads, I think McLove's account has been hacked
I love the old bleak, psychotic sounding stuff. I love Filosofem which is... deeper? Maybe more enchanting or something, less butchering of the skull! The later stuff has an ease to it, a sense of maturity and reflection (despite him still clearly being as mad as a hatter) and a real inherent beauty. A folkish touch even. The very very new stuff, the demo Burzum stuff, carries that beauty with it. The recording quality is desperate, but if he took those songs to Grieghallen we could easily be on to a winner.
#NoHackLove
Swallow The Sun are headlining a festival when I'm going to be in Brisbane but I've never listened to them, what's the best place to start?
Emerald Forest and the Blackbird is the one I think captures the all their different elements best.
Funny you mention STS. My Song Bride are playing here in September with the singer from Swallow the Sun standing in for Aaron.
I have never noticed, nor have I ever heard anybody comment on the Use Your Illusion albums having a bad guitar tone?
Appetite is flawless. Out ta get me is one of my favourite songs. Sweet Child o Mine is a banger ballad, there's a reason it's overplayed ta fuck and everybody is sick of it. I'd say most of us would probably wince when it comes on at a wedding or something as the 'rock part' of the night (along with Thunderstruck and You Shook Me), but it really is a well written song I think.
The only Burzum albums I've ever listened to are the prison ones. Never felt compelled to check out more, but I acknowledge that it was probably a bad place to start. Catchy though, I can still remember some melodies, even though I've only heard them twice, about 10 years ago.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 17, 2025, 08:48:21 PMFunny you mention STS. My Song Bride are playing here in September with the singer from Swallow the Sun standing in for Aaron.
Oh yeah, just seen that was announced! I'm interested to see who's going to be announced for the Melbourne Deathfest.
Unrelated but I found an old picture of AA with the Absurd/GBK guys on a random blog from 2011, he's not mentioned in the photo/blog but im sure the blue haired "Nemtheanga is sus/sketch/a Nazi associate" speculators would have a field day with that one :laugh:
:o
"Blue haired" :laugh: nailed it.
The Filth- Time to Rot album cover is cool as fuck. I haven't heard a note of music by them but I'm 100% sold on that strange artwork.
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Filth/Time_to_Rot/1342150
Me and a friend the other day were joking about Celtic Frost going Glam and he goes "have you heard Discharge's glam album?" How have I never heard this :laugh:
The vocals actually sound like they would be perfect for some retarded bedroom DSBM project.
Just watching WASP live at Rockwave, whoever that lead guitarist is he's absolutely nailing it.
Fuck sake Australia/NZ Pentagram tour cancelled a few weeks out due to Bobby being arrested for domestic violence :'(
:laugh: I missed that. I feel better about not having bought a ticket.
For fuck sake, it's even worse, he wasn't arrested, it was this bullshit >:( >:(
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What a fucking joke!! And what a coward promoter.
Ever since someone on here pointed out that Bobby looks like Dustin the Turkey I can't see him any other way.
32 Counties and 40 Shades of Black and Blue.
Quote from: Mithrandir on July 17, 2025, 11:02:09 PMMe and a friend the other day were joking about Celtic Frost going Glam and he goes "have you heard Discharge's glam album?" How have I never heard this :laugh:
The vocals actually sound like they would be perfect for some retarded bedroom DSBM project.
Oh this is the stuff of legend. Absolute comedy gold. Wait, is 'Sexplosion' on this album or the one after it? If you haven't heard that look it up immediately.
I'll never forget the horror when I heard that Discharge album. The absolute state of it
I'd love to hear Protest and Survive in that voice :laugh:
Quote from: astfgyl on July 18, 2025, 01:31:23 PMI'll never forget the horror when I heard that Discharge album. The absolute state of it
Was thinking how much of a "what the fuck" moment this would have been for a diehard Discharge fan back in the day, to get it home, onto the turntable/tape deck.
Ouch.
A mate of mine was a diehard punk, huge Discharge fan. My guide when I was exploring that stuff in school. The level of hate, disgust and disdain he had for that was comical. He was right , but it was funny to see him go off on one.
Quote from: Carnage on July 18, 2025, 10:17:42 PMA mate of m8ne was a diehard punk, huge Discharge fan. M6bguide when I was exploring that stuff 8n school. The level if hate, disgust and disdain he had for that was c9micwl. He was right , but it was funny to see him go 9ff on 9ne.
I'm having trouble with my sight at the m9ment, I'll edit this wuen I can.
Fuck.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Ducky on July 18, 2025, 09:00:07 PMQuote from: astfgyl on July 18, 2025, 01:31:23 PMI'll never forget the horror when I heard that Discharge album. The absolute state of it
Was thinking how much of a "what the fuck" moment this would have been for a diehard Discharge fan back in the day, to get it home, onto the turntable/tape deck.
Ouch.
Yep, fucking awful
Edit: I didn't buy it, I can only imagine how those poor bastards felt
It's actually a hilarious thought lol
:laugh: 10/10
Kelly Schaefer just shared a link to his vocalist audition tape for Velvet Revolver. More of an interesting curio than anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SWl0otjqN0
Interesting alright, never heard that before though I recall he was involved in that process for quite a while, a genuine contender?
Good oul sleaze rock voice tbf, but yeah that would have sounded fairly dated in the mid 2000's, they needed that slight alt touch Weiland gave them (and obvs the GNR/STP marketing!).
Velvet Revolver were a great band, would love to have heard more from them if things had been different
They were better than Audioslave anyway, imo.
Audioslave were fucking dismal in fairness.
Both Audioslave and Velvet Revolver were complete muck.
Didn't Schaefer have his Dealz version of Alice in Chains when Atheist were kaput?
That first Audioslave album was decent. Appears it was a total fluke though.
Aye, it was pretty good. The second one was crap, didn't bother with the third. Velvet Revolver were poor alright though, the sum of the parts was better than the whole.
I thought that Velvet Revolver's first album was only ok when it came out, but I enjoy it more each year. Good catchy songs and great guitar parts, I think it's a great album now. Never got into the second one.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15toL8hKS7/
Some tepid Dracula drama with surprise BMSS member reveal.
A fair reaction would also be "Who?" :laugh:.
Bit late here but just thinking about both Audioslave and Velvet Revolver and how completely disappointing they both really were to me, given who was in them. Just two of the blandest things imaginable really
Quote from: Mithrandir on July 21, 2025, 11:02:08 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/share/p/15toL8hKS7/
Some tepid Dracula drama with surprise BMSS member reveal.
A fair reaction would also be "Who?" :laugh:.
Ah that sucks
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 21, 2025, 08:48:31 AMKelly Schaefer just shared a link to his vocalist audition tape for Velvet Revolver. More of an interesting curio than anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SWl0otjqN0
He goes into the audition story on the I Hate Music podcast.
https://pca.st/episode/39412dc7-d52e-477f-a56f-5471839f1622
Maybe not every band should be on social media :-X
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdN4bIIVGO/?igsh=djk1aHBlaXdlMmtn
:laugh:
Are you sure that's not an amateur wrasslin' promo?
Quote from: Mithrandir on July 23, 2025, 10:35:23 PMMaybe not every band should be on social media :-X
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdN4bIIVGO/?igsh=djk1aHBlaXdlMmtn
The Fried Braincells, coming to Mexico.
I got reminded of the Mutilated messiah/NunSlaughter split 7" today after the guy from NS mentioned mentioned on Dead by Dawg as one that didn't turn out as he'd hoped. I remember growing up and thinking it was a weird release, an irish band no one seemed to talk about, that had only released a tape limited to 50, were somehow on a NunSlaughter split released on Hells Headbanger's. I know a NS split is a dime a dozen (I think they have 80+ :laugh: ) and it's not really a claim to fame being associated with NunSlaughter but Mutilated Messiah seemed pretty obscure, is it like a pay to play kinda thing with NS splits or was there some connection? Is anyone from MM on here?
I have that 7" too. Looks cool. I can't remember what the music sounds like so maybe I'll root it out for an airing.
Quote from: Mithrandir on July 23, 2025, 10:35:23 PMMaybe not every band should be on social media :-X
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdN4bIIVGO/?igsh=djk1aHBlaXdlMmtn
Camera stops rolling
"I SOUNDED SO FUCKIN' AWKWARD BUD"😂
Quote from: Carnage on July 23, 2025, 11:02:18 PMAre you sure that's not an amateur wrasslin' promo?
If I recall correctly the more rotund chap there isn't in the band, he's their security guard. I distinctly remember seeing him in action at Chaos Descends years ago when one of them got into a disagreement, but I can't remember specifics because...well, I was shitfaced at the time.
Anyway, today I'm thinking about how a lot of the Gathering's early stuff is basically Faith No More played really slowly and with different vocals. Put death metal vocals over "Smaller and Smaller" and you've got most of the first LP (I mean the second album where they got the Patton impersonater in makes this real obvious but still..)
Does anyone know when tickets on Ticketmaster usually become available for resell/transfer? I've got 2 tickets for Metallica in November I'm trying to get rid of but still showing as 'tickets unavailable' with the resell/transfer options greyed out? I tried contacting them but not response.
Quote from: Mithrandir on July 30, 2025, 11:09:37 PMDoes anyone know when tickets on Ticketmaster usually become available for resell/transfer? I've got 2 tickets for Metallica in November I'm trying to get rid of but still showing as 'tickets unavailable' with the resell/transfer options greyed out? I tried contacting them but not response.
Think it has to be closer to the date before the resell option triggers.
Black Sabbath - Forbidden is actually a decent album.
At what age should you stop wearing heavy metal tshirts when and about in public, especially if you don't particularly look like a metaller anymore, ultimately the question is when do you look like a complete dick?
I'll be 50 in a couple of months and I wear them a lot, I only really started buying them again when I hit 40 and the midlife crisis hit. I don't look like a metal person much anymore since I cut the hair. To be fair, I live in T-shirts anyway and I'm sure I look like a dick but I don't particularly care what it looks like.
Wear what you want and fuck the begrudgers.
I wear metal tshirts every day. Gorgoroth 'Pentagram' tshirt today. I'm 43 and fucked if I'm changing my ways now; I shall bend the world to my will(ybum).
I have regressed since my early 30s, obviously, as I have continued to buy metal t-shirts and donated my normie ones to charity. Outside of metal t-shirts, the only other t-shirts I wear are Liverpool/Limerick jerseys. I couldn't give a fuck what people might think.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on July 31, 2025, 12:13:25 PMI wear metal tshirts every day. Gorgoroth 'Pentagram' tshirt today. I'm 43 and fucked if I'm changing my ways now; I shall bend the world to my will(ybum).
Oh that willybum of yours, always getting you in trouble.
8)
46 and metal t-shirts is basically all I wear. Today I have a Sacred Reich one on, yesterday was Tank, and I think Tuesday was Candlemass.
Aye, 48 and most of my wardrobe is metal/punk/noise band shirts. Not sure I wear them every day but most, probably.
I do get fed up sometimes and need to have a clear out. And sure then I just end up buying more. Definitely have one or two I can't wear any more that I can't throw out .
Hmm..I might actually just be a hoarder..
44 and haven't stopped wearing band merch since my teens.
Have started to shift a few of the ones that don't fit on Vinted which will be used to finance more records and merch 😂
the most ridiculous thing about us all wearing metal shirts all the time is..well..the irish climate
Indeed, and shorts and flipflops on top of it (which was a genius move while I was spraying the weeds with Round Up earlier).
Death metal Aran jumpers might be a niche market, but worth looking into.
Fuck Irish weather, once it kicks into July I'm reluctant to wear full length pants, much to the wife's annoyance.
Wrong side of 50 and when I'm not wearing metal shirts, it's football/NFL shirts, even for work.
Quote from: Carnage on July 31, 2025, 03:05:07 PMDeath metal Aran jumpers might be a niche market, but worth looking into.
That sort of thing encourages hipsters!
The timing of Ozzy's death. Did he really die then, or did he die earlier, and Sharon pulled off the ultimate Weekend at Bernie's with his corpse?
I think she had the tickets booked to Switzerland before the concert was announced.
Quote from: Anvil on August 02, 2025, 08:22:18 AMI think she had the tickets booked to Switzerland before the concert was announced.
Well she'll be using their banks to hide her cut of the charity money.
On the subject of metal tees and merch in general, is it just me or are metal jumpers or sweaters a bit odd? I could be wrong but I don't really remember these being a thing back in the day but they seem to fairly prevalent in merch stores these days. T-shirts...grand. Hoodies...likewise. Sweaters...just no. And I'm not sure exactly why, I mean they're effectively just hoodies without the hood.
Quote from: John Kimble on August 03, 2025, 02:10:42 PMOn the subject of metal tees and merch in general, is it just me or are metal jumpers or sweaters a bit odd? I could be wrong but I don't really remember these being a thing back in the day but they seem to fairly prevalent in merch stores these days. T-shirts...grand. Hoodies...likewise. Sweaters...just no. And I'm not sure exactly why, I mean they're effectively just hoodies without the hood.
The sweatshirts were definitely a thing with merch companies in the 80s & 90s, but they've made a bit of a comeback for sure.
They're grand. Cheaper than feckin' hoodies too!
The brother had a Massacre Fron Beyond sweater/jumper that he wore to death back then, never really saw them outside of that. Wouldn't be my cup of tea TBH, even longsleeves I don't go for anymore, I think I have one now.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on August 03, 2025, 02:31:23 PMQuote from: John Kimble on August 03, 2025, 02:10:42 PMOn the subject of metal tees and merch in general, is it just me or are metal jumpers or sweaters a bit odd? I could be wrong but I don't really remember these being a thing back in the day but they seem to fairly prevalent in merch stores these days. T-shirts...grand. Hoodies...likewise. Sweaters...just no. And I'm not sure exactly why, I mean they're effectively just hoodies without the hood.
The sweatshirts were definitely a thing with merch companies in the 80s & 90s, but they've made a bit of a comeback for sure.
They're grand. Cheaper than feckin' hoodies too!
Yeah, that's mad...not doubting you or anything but I genuinely can't recall seeing them at any gigs. That said, I may well have and just mistook them for long sleeves. Branded shorts...now those I do remember!! They were naff then and still are. Thankfully a rarity.
Occasionally the old Blue Grape/Emp/Nuclear Blast catalogues turn up on Instagram usually posted by some bootlegger drumming up interest on what they'll do next.
Thankfully stupid all over prints seem to stay in the 90s😂
The all-over prints were bad alright. Similarly, there was horrible tie-dye fad which thankfully remained with the 90s.
I can remember being young, stupid and yearning to get an awful Blue Grape Fear Factory ice-hockey jersey which, unfortunately, was a thing. And I have a vague notion that it cost about £40 which was huge money back then (shop in Queens Old Castle for the Cork heads).
I remember that hockey jersey fad. I actually got a Metallica one but an ex took it on me. The thing goes for a few hundred quid on ebay now!
I had a Fear Factory football syle top at one stage, fucking loved it at the time. There was a Sepultura one too, in Brazilian colours.
Yeah, I don't remember sweatshirts being a thing back in the day, but I have a Primitive Man one now that I wear a lot, dead comfy.
Going back to the age thing, I'm 48 and wear metal tees/hoodies most days of the week, the lads in work get a kick out of trying to decipher the band logos...except when I wear my Godflesh one, they're always disappointed when I wear that...
Heading for 49 in couple of months and still wearing merch tees every day. Whether at work or the weekend.
Even got a bit of stick for it at work a few years back but said fuck it and kept wearing them. They introduced a dress code policy but then also a gender and equality policy. So I told them if they think it's OK for me to turn up in a skirt or dress if I need to feel 'safe, comfortable and included' then I'm just keep wearing my tees.
Whenever I get a bit dressed up for an event or family dinner scenario my kids look at me like I've two heads.
"You look weird! Put on a t-shirt, will ya?"
The vocals on Altars of Madness and the first deicide are more intelligible than Don't break the Oath.
Quote from: jobrok1 on August 03, 2025, 11:16:42 PMHeading for 49 in couple of months and still wearing merch tees every day. Whether at work or the weekend.
Even got a bit of stick for it at work a few years back but said fuck it and kept wearing them. They introduced a dress code policy but then also a gender and equality policy. So I told them if they think it's OK for me to turn up in a skirt or dress if I need to feel 'safe, comfortable and included' then I'm just keep wearing my tees.
Whenever I get a bit dressed up for an event or family dinner scenario my kids look at me like I've two heads.
"You look weird! Put on a t-shirt, will ya?"
:laugh: :laugh:
Yeah, down the pub night before we came back to France last week and one of the lads started trying to have a go at me still wearing metal shirts. "Chap," says I "your top looks like something a ma would have ordered for her husband out of a Damart catalogue back in the 90s." That shut him up fast. His wife said nothing either :laugh:
I pretty much only own metal shirts here too and either black jeans or shorts. It works, I don't have to think much about it, and for work I just wear a plain black tee instead.
I do have some range of jumpers too though I fuckin love an auld jumper
Quote from: Carnage on August 03, 2025, 09:14:49 PMI yad a Fear Factory football syle top at one stage, fucking loved it at the time. There was a Sepultura one too, in Brazilian colours.
An old friend of mine met her husband as they were both sauntering up the street a good 22 years ago pissed as farts and she says "cool Sepultura shirt" to his Brazil shirt with the logo. Sepultura being his favourite band.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 06, 2025, 10:38:53 AMYeah, down the pub night before we came back to France last week and one of the lads started trying to have a go at me still wearing metal shirts. "Chap," says I "your top looks like something a ma would have ordered for her husband out of a Damart catalogue back in the 90s." That shut him up fast. His wife said nothing either :laugh:
I can only read this in the voice of Matt Berry.
I'd quite like some kind of David Lee Roth branded cravat, or perhaps a King Diamond top hat for special occasions. I've got a wedding come up in October , get to it merch people.
Surely a Tribulation knitted scarf could be doable for the upcoming colder months? God knows people certainly had plenty to say about their neckwear a few years back
Post-Inchicore
Midwestern health board emo
That's all
Thanks, now I have AIDS.
Just watching the Coroner documentary, which they've made available on youtube -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT2ZQdF36SY
This bit, where Karl-Ulrich Walterbach is talkng about Tom G...
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They're my three favourite bands... and Sabbath and Celtic Frost make up the Top 5 :laugh: :abbath:
What a legend
Deadly, must watch that.
Listening to Believer's debut album here and, once again, can't help but chuckle at the places where the singer bellows "Jesus Christ", presumably intending it to be in reverence, but it just sounds like someone angrily shouting... JESUS CHRIST! :laugh:
Nobody, like actually nobody means it the way that Billy Graziadei does.
Even on the worst possible Biohazard song, he means it like nobody else does
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 15, 2025, 01:30:25 AMDeadly, must watch that.
Listening to Believer's debut album here and, once again, can't help but chuckle at the places where the singer bellows "Jesus Christ", presumably intending it to be in reverence, but it just sounds like someone angrily shouting... JESUS CHRIST! :laugh:
On another random but related thought I fair love when a lad says ah jaysus Christ in a tune but the only example I can think of off the top of my head is One Minute Silence - Holy Man
And to tie it all back together, Billy from Biohazard means everything he says the way Colin meaney did in that clip up there.
I think he's genuinely that upset about society
Quote from: astfgyl on August 16, 2025, 01:25:54 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 15, 2025, 01:30:25 AMDeadly, must watch that.
Listening to Believer's debut album here and, once again, can't help but chuckle at the places where the singer bellows "Jesus Christ", presumably intending it to be in reverence, but it just sounds like someone angrily shouting... JESUS CHRIST! :laugh:
Haha, pretty much. Judge for yourself (time-stamped):
https://youtu.be/zI3gJSViCIs?si=0G8R-huPqTkzq0Qk&t=152
Quote from: astfgyl on August 16, 2025, 01:23:36 PMNobody, like actually nobody means it the way that Billy Graziadei does.
Even on the worst possible Biohazard song, he means it like nobody else does
Did you see 3 Inches of Blood play here when Jamie Hooper was in the band? Fucker's throat looked like it was going to explode out of him, like the baby Alien, and leave his body in protest. He meant it for sure, which is surprising given their lyrics :laugh: :laugh: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
Quote from: Bürggermeister on August 16, 2025, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: astfgyl on August 16, 2025, 01:23:36 PMNobody, like actually nobody means it the way that Billy Graziadei does.
Even on the worst possible Biohazard song, he means it like nobody else does
Did you see 3 Inches of Blood play here when Jamie Hooper was in the band? Fucker's throat looked like it was going to explode out of him, like the baby Alien, and leave his body in protest. He meant it for sure, which is surprising given their lyrics :laugh: :laugh: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
He was such an odd fit with them, think he was from their local crust punk scene. He destroyed his throat doing the shrieks in the end and had to quit the band.
Yeah, he left not long after that gig in Voodoo. You could see it was not sustainable but Metal as fuck all the same :laugh:
Quote from: Bürggermeister on August 16, 2025, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: astfgyl on August 16, 2025, 01:23:36 PMNobody, like actually nobody means it the way that Billy Graziadei does.
Even on the worst possible Biohazard song, he means it like nobody else does
Did you see 3 Inches of Blood play here when Jamie Hooper was in the band? Fucker's throat looked like it was going to explode out of him, like the baby Alien, and leave his body in protest. He meant it for sure, which is surprising given their lyrics :laugh: :laugh: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 16, 2025, 02:02:02 PMQuote from: astfgyl on August 16, 2025, 01:25:54 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 15, 2025, 01:30:25 AMDeadly, must watch that.
Listening to Believer's debut album here and, once again, can't help but chuckle at the places where the singer bellows "Jesus Christ", presumably intending it to be in reverence, but it just sounds like someone angrily shouting... JESUS CHRIST! :laugh:
Haha, pretty much. Judge for yourself (time-stamped):
https://youtu.be/zI3gJSViCIs?si=0G8R-huPqTkzq0Qk&t=152
Jesus those vocals are great though. Never heard a note of these lads before
Enjoy! First two albums are underground classics, though most heads would know the second one better, Sanity Obscure.
I was listening to this Public Enemy album yesterday and it struck me how much the cover looks like an 80's thrash metal album.
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Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 17, 2025, 02:41:32 PMEnjoy! First two albums are underground classics, though most heads would know the second one better, Sanity Obscure.
Not on Spotify the oul bastards. I'll have to go digging
Dunno where else to put it again but this was the natural culmination of a different conversation about two certain albums earlier and it belongs nowhere else.
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I wouldn't be gone on that at all, sounds like your average pub rock cover. Which TBF it is.
New Testament song, if someone played this for me I wouldn't have guessed it was Testament. I haven't kept up with and modern Testament, have they been incorporating blast beats like that before??
I like that track.
I think they started using blast beats in 2012 with that Native Blood song, if I'm not mistaken?
Quote from: Mithrandir on August 21, 2025, 09:39:54 PMNew Testament song, if someone played this for me I wouldn't have guessed it was Testament. I haven't kept up with and modern Testament, have they been incorporating blast beats like that before??
Sounds like it was written by AI. They've done nothing of merit since The Gathering. Another band for the couldn't be bothered thread.
Sounds like what they were doing on their 'Low' album. Which I fucking love, so more than happy with this track.
Quote from: ochoill on August 20, 2025, 03:16:45 PMDunno where else to put it again but this was the natural culmination of a different conversation about two certain albums earlier and it belongs nowhere else.
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:laugh: :laugh:
That Testament song is grand.
Quote from: jobrok1 on August 21, 2025, 10:41:09 PMSounds like what they were doing on their 'Low' album. Which I fucking love, so more than happy with this track.
i enjoyd it as well.. also a big big fan of Low..going to throw it on now ta fuck
I love when albums have a bit of amp noise at times etc. Was listening to Dead Congregation - Graves of the Archangels a lot this week...and there's a fair bit of it. So much better than a lot of ultra clean modern plug in metal productions.
https://share.google/jpX80rUd1qWD0FhZh
Reclaimed :laugh:
Backxwash is excellent, but has nothing to do with black metal.
The only thing worse than NSBM is lefty black metal/RABM and I say that as a lefty myself. Piss poor musically.Satan or fuck off!!
Speaking of the UK media and bm related clowns:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM5yXAgo6Ss/?igsh=MXUxaTNtOGdnenFxYw==
I think this is my first encounter with the acronym RABM :eyeroll:
:)
Quote from: astfgyl on August 30, 2025, 01:31:47 PMhttps://share.google/jpX80rUd1qWD0FhZh
And once again a thousand profiles share this article with "This is why we gatekeep" on their socials with the pitchforks at the ready!
It was hardcore lads a few weeks ago when Turnstile released their record.
Guardian stoked to bits with the engagement and ad revenue.
Tappin' into that sweet corpse paint dollar? :laugh: :abbath:
Quote from: Pentagrimes on August 30, 2025, 01:49:04 PMSpeaking of the UK media and bm related clowns:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM5yXAgo6Ss/?igsh=MXUxaTNtOGdnenFxYw==
Jesus christ.
Right Adjacent BM?
Red Anarchist Black Metal.
That's (obviously) a new one on me.
Wrong thread.
Quote from: Sworntothecans on August 30, 2025, 02:07:29 PMQuote from: astfgyl on August 30, 2025, 01:31:47 PMhttps://share.google/jpX80rUd1qWD0FhZh
And once again a thousand profiles share this article with "This is why we gatekeep" on their socials with the pitchforks at the ready!
It was hardcore lads a few weeks ago when Turnstile released their record.
Guardian stoked to bits with the engagement and ad revenue.
In their entirely impartial way I think they deserve the oul boost
Edit: never heard of Turnstile, but what a bad name like
Give
Re
Turns
Cause the rule is
Cans for cans
Yeah I had it playing in my head there down at the re-turn machine in lidl. Obviously I was trading in my empties for more cans
https://yobislove.bandcamp.com/album/clearing-the-path-to-ascend
Free download for the weekend, if for some reason any of ye were missing one of the best albums going.
Quote from: ochoill on September 06, 2025, 06:53:32 PMhttps://yobislove.bandcamp.com/album/clearing-the-path-to-ascend
Free download for the weekend, if for some reason any of ye were missing one of the best albums going.
Just saw that Neurot are planning on doing one "pay-what-you-want" album per week, this being the first.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 07, 2025, 03:52:44 PMQuote from: ochoill on September 06, 2025, 06:53:32 PMhttps://yobislove.bandcamp.com/album/clearing-the-path-to-ascend
Free download for the weekend, if for some reason any of ye were missing one of the best albums going.
Just saw that Neurot are planning on doing one "pay-what-you-want" album per week, this being the first.
They have been doing it for weeks now.
ah neurot serious, are ya?
Years, I reckon. At least a year or two, but it might not have been a continuous thing. I picked up something from them a couple of years ago anyway.
Ok some more heavy metal flash sheet trivia. Sorry for the bad quality, it was a screenshot from a video, I have all of them apart from the Shield guy and the hand.
(https://i.ibb.co/jkj5BBqh/Screenshot-20250909-191314-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CKStNN4B)
(https://i.ibb.co/Bmfyf19/Screenshot-20250909-191321-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GXdWdhq)
google com jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
Is the shield fella Dawn of Possession?
Nah, All English and only one is not NWOBHM!
I found out what the 2 I was stuck on are!
The hand is from the Running Free single, right?
I was thinking it was an Eddie myself, went looking around all the posters so it's not an album cover, you could be right with the single shout
Quote from: Squigs on September 12, 2025, 11:43:12 AMThe hand is from the Running Free single, right?
Yep, that's the one!! Was sick I didn't catch it myself!
NERDS !!!
Who is the artist?
Derek Riggs.
I meant the flash tattooist.
He's good, I dunmo about flash. ;)
Had The Varangian Way on earlier and was wondering whatever happened with Turisas?
I remember them being fairly big during the whole folk metal explosion of the late 00s, early 10s, but then they just seemed to disappear completely
This time of year, whenever I'm out for a stroll by the river, or in the woods, or anywhere with a bit greenery really, my brain automatically goes into "scanning for a potential death/ doom/ gothic metal album cover mode".
Just heard the new Clawfinger song. Back in the awful, awful mid-90's they always seemed to be on the cusp of doing something interesting but the lyrics were and, based on the new stuff, seemingly always will be, just on the wrong side of excruciating, toe-curling cringe. What an achievement!
I was walking past a local primary school on my way to the library a few minutes ago and a young lad, around ten or eleven says, "nice Mayhem tshirt!" :laugh:
There's hope for the future.
Ten or eleven?! That's impressive alright.
When you've a holiday booked, and then a few weeks before you go, a band announce they're playing in that city the day after you fly out. :-\
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on September 15, 2025, 09:53:25 PMWhen you've a holiday booked, and then a few weeks before you go, a band announce they're playing in that city the day after you fly out. :-\
That needs to be in the Metal Pet Peeves thread
Yeah, I had both threads open at the same time, and posted that in this one. My bad.
Was just saying. Not having a go. Fits in here too, I suppose.
Quote from: Anton Arcane on September 13, 2025, 08:08:05 PMThis time of year, whenever I'm out for a stroll by the river, or in the woods, or anywhere with a bit greenery really, my brain automatically goes into "scanning for a potential death/ doom/ gothic metal album cover mode".
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I know it only too well
Isn't that right @Ochoill
:laugh: yeah my phone is just filled with "I'll use this for something". Bits of auld bust up buildings and woodlands.
Quote from: jobrok1 on September 16, 2025, 02:48:37 PMWas just saying. Not having a go. Fits in here too, I suppose.
I guess it does. 😄 Probably do what I did the last time it happened, try and get a ticket, and if I do, change my flight.
Was at the Nekrogoblikon gig tonight, mainly to see Allegaeon but stuck around for the main act. I'd say a good 80% of the crowd were probably around 18-25.
Was good to see that metal is still drawing in a younger crowd. Definitely a different energy to the last gig I was at (I am Morbid) with mostly older heads
What sort of stuff is it?
Very "meme-y/gimmicky" type stuff, they've a lad dressed as a goblin singing, but otherwise pretty standard pop metal/melodeath type stuff
Seems like they'd be a bit of a gateway band in the same way Slipknot we're 25 years ago, especially when they're bringing bands like Allegaeon out on tour. As an aside , Greg Burgess is a fucking criminally underrated guitarist
It's parody/comedy metal, I wouldn't recommend.
I don't understand why there's a fairly substantial number of metal 'fans' who can't listen to anything unless it's wrapped up in parody.
Quote from: ldj on September 24, 2025, 11:01:38 PMIt's parody/comedy metal, I wouldn't recommend.
I don't understand why there's a fairly substantial number of metal 'fans' who can't listen to anything unless it's wrapped up in parody.
I would imagine, it's at least partly because it gives the self conscious types a disclaimer for when they're judged by their peers for being into metal. The musical equivalent of a nervous fake laugh.
Quote from: ochoill on September 18, 2025, 02:36:36 PM:laugh: yeah my phone is just filled with "I'll use this for something". Bits of auld bust up buildings and woodlands.
Ah jesus yeah, the amount of photos of dark clouds and disentegratingstatues on my phone is hilarious
Try working in a cemetery. I need a second phone for all the photos :laugh:
Have listened to this new Elder stuff a few times now. Pleasant, but entirely extremely well-trod ground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PavA0CF3D7w
I thought they were going to go on to amazing things after 'Lore' and 'Reflections' but he just completely forgot how to write a riff (or tune).
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 25, 2025, 10:30:53 PMHave listened to this new Elder stuff a few times now. Pleasant, but entirely extremely well-trod ground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PavA0CF3D7w
I've mentioned on here before my feelings on new Elder, but gave this a go yesterday anyway - not bad. Some bits are class, others are way too polished up and his fuckin vocals again they are gone to the dogs. For all my giving out I will give it another listen later anyway :laugh:
Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 14, 2025, 03:26:12 PMJust heard the new Clawfinger song. Back in the awful, awful mid-90's they always seemed to be on the cusp of doing something interesting but the lyrics were and, based on the new stuff, seemingly always will be, just on the wrong side of excruciating, toe-curling cringe. What an achievement!
I'm listening to Use Your Brain this minute and I'm doing everything I can not to notice the lyrics :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I still like it though, chugging away as it does
Fair play, man, I can never not hear the cunt 😂
I reckon the lad from Eagles of Death Metal got his entire vibe from this lad. I could quite easily imagine hem covering this song even
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf62IWhUMyo&list=RDWf62IWhUMyo&start_radio=1
This from the same fella who ripped into Maiden at Donnington for not being a rock and roll band
https://blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-singer-axl-rose-and-sumerian-comics-announce-axl-rose-appetite-for-destruction-graphic-novel (https://blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-singer-axl-rose-and-sumerian-comics-announce-axl-rose-appetite-for-destruction-graphic-novel)
Quote from: Mithrandir on September 11, 2025, 10:40:21 PMOk some more heavy metal flash sheet trivia. Sorry for the bad quality, it was a screenshot from a video, I have all of them apart from the Shield guy and the hand.
(https://i.ibb.co/jkj5BBqh/Screenshot-20250909-191314-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CKStNN4B)
(https://i.ibb.co/Bmfyf19/Screenshot-20250909-191321-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GXdWdhq)
google com jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
Been AWOL for for a while but anyone that was curious the bands were Saxon/Angel Witch/Holocaust/Iron Maiden/Onslaught/Tank/Diamond Head :abbath:
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this but have you seen how many bands have had their visas revoked for Metal Threat Fest? It's like half the lineup!
Seems Lou Koller's cancer is back with a vengeance, poor man can't catch a break:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19TcdvBV6K/
Poor guy
Does the world need what looks like a (NS)BM themed romantic drama?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkdfHHWTgA
Darkspace are on the soundtrack in fairness
oh hang on, they actually broke the fourth wall and made the band in the film a real thing with a demo and "live ritvals"
https://thetruewlvs.bandcamp.com/album/demo-mmxxv
Quote from: Mithrandir on September 30, 2025, 09:31:05 AMNot sure if anyone's mentioned this but have you seen how many bands have had their visas revoked for Metal Threat Fest? It's like half the lineup!
Hadn't seen before your post. Interesting. Bit of an aside, but can't help feeling this is pretty naïve from the organizer:
QuoteMy assumption is this is related to the Orange Man's 50 million visa vetting process he was talking about in the last few weeks. I thought these denials were going to be politically related, but that is obviously not the case in the bands that were denied.
The Satanic panic is back... in visa denial form!
Quote from: Carnage on September 30, 2025, 04:23:14 PMSeems Lou Koller's cancer is back with a vengeance, poor man can't catch a break:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19TcdvBV6K/
Absolutely heartbreaking stuff. Lou's a legend.
Fucked. I hope he managed to beat it this time.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 30, 2025, 09:58:47 PMQuote from: Mithrandir on September 30, 2025, 09:31:05 AMNot sure if anyone's mentioned this but have you seen how many bands have had their visas revoked for Metal Threat Fest? It's like half the lineup!
Hadn't seen before your post. Interesting. Bit of an aside, but can't help feeling this is pretty naïve from the organizer:
QuoteMy assumption is this is related to the Orange Man's 50 million visa vetting process he was talking about in the last few weeks. I thought these denials were going to be politically related, but that is obviously not the case in the bands that were denied.
The Satanic panic is back... in visa denial form!
Just imagining the line-up possibilities for an event protesting these visa denial issues :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
https://apnews.com/article/yusuf-cat-stevens-book-tour-visa-513c8c55ff724b7c5b6954e89a9b2a12
Using his "newer" name being the issue there.
Isn't he a Yank, what's the issue?
Nah, he's English.
Quote from: open face surgery on October 01, 2025, 10:46:00 AMUsing his "newer" name being the issue there.
He'd been flagged by Homeland in the past round about the time he took the Murdoch papers to court in the early 2000s.
The Cat is also the pet of the woke. Massive red flag.
Celtic Frost sounds like some kind of Aldi knockoff of Smirnoff Ice
Not sure why this just jumped into my head.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on October 08, 2025, 01:35:36 PMCeltic Frost sounds like some kind of Aldi knockoff of Smirnoff Ice
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Sometimes the only thing that'll do is a hefty dose of Scott Reagers squawking in your ear 8)
Reports coming in that Ian Watkins has been stabbed to death in prison. Only seeing it from The Scum and The Mirror so hardly reliable sources, but no harm if true.
BBC too. Ding-dong.
Anyone have any idea what the thing is in the cover of Pretty Hate Machine? I could never figure it out. It looks like a clip of some sort... clothing? Hair clip? Machinery?
I always thought it was a wheel or cog or something like that, but according to Wikipedia:
QuoteThe cover art was designed by Gary Talpas, which is a photo of the blades of a turbine stretched vertically to create the illusion of a rib cage. For the 2010 reissue, visual artist Rob Sheridan was assigned to update the cover art by Reznor to tone down the heavy late-Eighties neon aesthetic. Unfortunately, Sheridan was unable to locate the original artwork as it was deemed lost forever. To remedy this, he had to reverse engineer the cover art by scanning the existing cover art and digitally painted the image in very high resolution.
Quote from: Carnage on October 11, 2025, 11:51:26 PMI always thought it was a wheel or cog or something like that, but according to Wikipedia:
QuoteThe cover art was designed by Gary Talpas, which is a photo of the blades of a turbine stretched vertically to create the illusion of a rib cage. For the 2010 reissue, visual artist Rob Sheridan was assigned to update the cover art by Reznor to tone down the heavy late-Eighties neon aesthetic. Unfortunately, Sheridan was unable to locate the original artwork as it was deemed lost forever. To remedy this, he had to reverse engineer the cover art by scanning the existing cover art and digitally painted the image in very high resolution.
Nice, thanks. So it's just really abstract nothing :laugh: I like the colour aesthetic, but I've been used to looking at it since the early 90s.
It's of its time alright. I also thought it was a still from the Head Like A Hole video, which is fierce dated now as well. Cracker of a tune though.
So yer man from Lostphrophets had it coming. Clearly an irredeemable sack of shit (to put it mildly). But would we have the same reaction if say convicted homophobic murderer Faust from Emperor or the boy Varg got shanked?
Watkins was clearly a deranged sicko, but if he's 100/100, then the other lads are in the 95/100 league. Their psychopathic behaviours have zero place in civilised society.
Like I'm of the firm opinion that Jon Nödtveidt did the world a fucking favour when he offed his own homophobic, cuntish, sack-of-human-detritus self in praise of "muh dark lord", so where do the other aforementioned sacks of shit fall on that spectrum? Particularly with Faust - there's no rehabilitation or redemption from committing homophobic murder. He should be banged up up for life and deserved a similar fate to Watkins, but he's somehow a free man today.
You see a lot of (former) Lostphrophets fans online saying they can't listen to the music because of the repugnant, deranged shit Watkins did, so why do the lads who committed murders get a seemingly free pass from fans?
Just to stress - what Watkins did made him the fucking devil incarnate and I hope his last few moments on this earth consisted of nothing but sheer terror, but what those other lads did puts them at the bottom 1% of society and beyond comprehension to any reasonable, morally sound individual. So why is their art okay? Do they get a bit more leeway due to their art because black metal is trve and kewl?
Like the last (and first) time I heard Lostphrophets' music was when I went to get chips at Ozzfest 2002, so if I gave them a go on Spotify today is it really that much worse than listening to "I Am The Black Wizards" for the thousandth time?
TL;DR - separating the art from the artist, where do we draw the line, if at all?
I lost a developed reply there and am too lazy to write it all again properly.
- If you want to listen to Lostprophets, knock yourself out :)
- A better example, with good music, is Inquisition. I find it hard to listen to them now because the pathetic nature of his crimes clashes with the entire cosmic force vibe their music aims at.
- Think of that scene where Wayne and Garth meet Handsome Dan :laugh:
- Heinous as Faust's or Nodtveidt's crimes were, they don't pose that particular problem of esthetic dissonance with their music (also, Faust was just the drummer :) )
- Something pretentious about the Marquis de Sade.
Quote from: Ducky on October 12, 2025, 01:15:45 AMSo yer man from Lostphrophets had it coming. Clearly an irredeemable sack of shit (to put it mildly). But would we have the same reaction if say convicted homophobic murderer Faust from Emperor or the boy Varg got shanked?
Watkins was clearly a deranged sicko, but if he's 100/100, then the other lads are in the 95/100 league. Their psychopathic behaviours have zero place in civilised society.
Like I'm of the firm opinion that Jon Nödtveidt did the world a fucking favour when he offed his own homophobic, cuntish, sack-of-human-detritus self in praise of "muh dark lord", so where do the other aforementioned sacks of shit fall on that spectrum? Particularly with Faust - there's no rehabilitation or redemption from committing homophobic murder. He should be banged up up for life and deserved a similar fate to Watkins, but he's somehow a free man today.
You see a lot of (former) Lostphrophets fans online saying they can't listen to the music because of the repugnant, deranged shit Watkins did, so why do the lads who committed murders get a seemingly free pass from fans?
Just to stress - what Watkins did made him the fucking devil incarnate and I hope his last few moments on this earth consisted of nothing but sheer terror, but what those other lads did puts them at the bottom 1% of society and beyond comprehension to any reasonable, morally sound individual. So why is their art okay? Do they get a bit more leeway due to their art because black metal is trve and kewl?
Like the last (and first) time I heard Lostphrophets' music was when I went to get chips at Ozzfest 2002, so if I gave them a go on Spotify today is it really that much worse than listening to "I Am The Black Wizards" for the thousandth time?
TL;DR - separating the art from the artist, where do we draw the line, if at all?
Plenty of people dont excuse Varg or Faust or your man from Dissection - head over to the RABM reddit if you want to see some hilarious pearl clutching around how much sketchiness is acceptable in black metal.
Also there was about 20 years between Watkins getting arrested and the other stuff happening. Attitudes change and younger people might have different opinions on what is acceptable or not compared to the 90s.
I think part of the problem is that as unforgivable as Watkins's actions were, his music is even worse*
I find it easy to separate the crimes from the music when it comes to black metal. I would go so far as to say that the murders and arsons feed into the mythology around black metal, adding a level of authenticity to their claims of Satanism and misanthropy. At the same time I see them as the actions of dim young lads trying to outdo each other in an extreme case of peer pressure. Mostly I think the music is so interesting that I can enjoy it on its own terms. If Varg had turned out to be a child molester I think I would have a much harder time listening to his music. That's hypocritical, perhaps, but there you go. The blood curdling nature of his crimes is easier to contend with for whatever reason. Maybe a psychologist or a philosopher could make sense of it.
I'm not familiar with Lost Prophets's music despite my brilliant joke but I believe it's nu metal, or emo sort of stuff which doesn't quite hit the same levels of darkness thematically as black metal. It usually leans more towards overcoming personal struggles, but I'm relying on clichés here to build my picture. Maybe LP were incredibly dark and disturbing thematically and his paedoing adds loads of cred to their music. In that case being stabbed to death will no doubt elevate his status even higher in the eyes of the most true LP warriors**. Or not.
*that's the joke
**Lost Propheteers?
With all the division being stoked the last few years it seems that everyone is on the same page with Ian Watkins being killed
Maybe that's what the party's need to lead with to bring people back together, policies of more paedos getting shanked
Ah here Ducky, does context or nuance have any influence on your worldview?
Faust- yeah, he carried out a despicable crime. He was fairly young at the time (if memory serves correct, just about 18?? Which means a few months younger he would have been treated as a juvenile within the justice system). By all accounts, he was a bit dimwitted and easily led. His overall contribution to Emperor was fairly minimal so I don't think anyone would really view their legacy in terms of his actions and rightly so.
Varg - another asshole. Murdered another lad who was also a bit of a prick. Varg gets a pass, from me at least, because there's no comparison between anything Lost Prophets ever released and, say, Filosofem which is genius. Please don't bother with the subjective argument here, I've no doubt the average LP fan thinks Burzum is a load of noise. I think you know what the general consensus is here.
Your value system is a bit all over the shop. You're on another thread saying Charlie Kirk deserved what he got because he was intolerant and a bigot, you're slating the likes of Faust and Notveidt for being intolerant bigots...where's your tolerance here? Is it death sentences for all? Personally, I'd have no issue imposing a death sentence on your musical hero Jay Kay for his numerous crimes against good taste but thankfully I've no say on these matters...chances are some day he'll write himself off in some road traffic accident involving one of his many stupidly expensive sports cars which he's funded on the back of his quest to save the environment through self-righteous acid jazz performed by middle class white guys.
On a less flippant and simplistic note, I think when it comes to establishing a "hierarchy" of crimes against people, anything that involves kids is rightfully viewed as the lowest of the low. Like others here, I had the misfortune of reading some of Watkins court reports and there's nothing redeemable there. And the whole trve/kvlt nonsense doesn't hold any sway either. I'm pretty sure Thee Plague of Gentlemen can't be found on many Now Playing threads these days.
'Ian Watkins' is an anagram of 'I sat in wank'.
:laugh: ^ then got shanked. The dirty Cunt.
Anyone else get that promotional email from Napalm Records and see the state of the Lacuna Coil promo pic for their new webstore? Are they actually living backwards? Whatever the opposite of growing old gracefully is, this is it.
This one?
(https://napalmrecords.com/media/amasty/xlanding/page/lacunacoildesktop_1.jpg)
Aye, that's the culprit
Herself if holding together well in fairness.
Wouldn't ye think though she'd be telling the rest of those goons to tone it down a bit and leave her make up box alone
:laugh:
Random *punk related thought.
I've watched a few Fugazi live videos on YouTube this evening. Three out of the four members go spastic on stage, particularly the guitarist who isn't McKaye, and the spasticism is ramped up to eleven whenever he puts his guitar down and just sings. Depending on my mood I could either say it's great or downright silly. Two thoughts have come to me on this point. The first is, do you reckon the bassist feels really self conscious as the only member who just kind of stands there and plays, holding the music together. Even the drummer looks like he's teetering on the edge of total lunacy. The second thought: do you reckon your man does all that spastic shit in jamming?? ???
The basketball hoop image never fails to raise a smile whenever it pops up somewhere.
I still rate a Fugazi gig as my favourite of all time. That particular day Ian MacKaye seemed deranged and soaked in sweat as they played. Turned out he had pneumonia and the rest of the Australian tour was cancelled after the one I saw as he was admitted to hospital. Joe Lally always seemed in the background alright, I've always meant to listen to his solo stuff but never got to it. He had a label that released the Spirit Caravan stuff way back then.
(https://preview.redd.it/ecqj7bjgmud41.jpg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6755df847a5cc1db6daff6c21e85d7ef92731dec)
Quote from: leoos on October 25, 2025, 07:06:34 PMThe basketball hoop image never fails to raise a smile whenever it pops up somewhere.
I still rate a Fugazi gig as my favourite of all time. That particular day Ian MacKaye seemed deranged and soaked in sweat as they played. Turned out he had pneumonia and the rest of the Australian tour was cancelled after the one I saw as he was admitted to hospital. Joe Lally always seemed in the background alright, I've always meant to listen to his solo stuff but never got to it. He had a label that released the Spirit Caravan stuff way back then.
(https://preview.redd.it/ecqj7bjgmud41.jpg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6755df847a5cc1db6daff6c21e85d7ef92731dec)
I've shared my Fugazi live anecdote before on MI but sure I'll share it here again. I had a ticket to go see them last time they played Dublin. I ended up having a row with my then missus over God knows what. It was the evening of the gig and we had just made up and we were sitting in Fibbers having a drink. I was going to have to bail petty soon to make my way up to Whelan's I think, but we were maybe still on shaky ground, or maybe I just wanted the post- argument (Argument!) ride, so I turned to the table behind me and said, 'anyone want a free ticket to Fugazi?'. I gave the ticket away thinking fuck it I'll catch them next time. That was the last time they ever played in Dublin as they split up soon after :laugh:
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 18, 2025, 03:15:28 PMThis one?
(https://napalmrecords.com/media/amasty/xlanding/page/lacunacoildesktop_1.jpg)
I have this shit so much.
Lads from Type O are apparently putting together a live album of some sort according to an Instagram link a fella sent me a minute ago.
I'll take it
Anyone else see that ' reluctant aristocratic ' on the RTE website in his Cannibal Corpse shirt? Maybe it's some of you lot?
Randall Plunkett. Did the movie The Green Sea a few years ago featuring a good few Invictus bands.
Quote from: Thorn on October 31, 2025, 06:17:18 AMAnyone else see that ' reluctant aristocratic ' on the RTE website in his Cannibal Corpse shirt? Maybe it's some of you lot?
Not me, unfortunately ;)
Really good read.
I'd say the place is amazing.
He's done some stuff with apocalyptic witchcraft too, directed a music video for an axis of perdition a while back and appeared on some from the bogs of aughiska songs too if my memory serves me correctly.
Interesting fellow indeed
Luggage essentials, who needs clothes :abbath:
(https://i.ibb.co/bjD4gfRq/PXL-20251031-011206093-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RGdXp54Z)
(https://i.ibb.co/S4zWr0YD/PXL-20251027-191255613-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q3vX59qL)
Also fucking killer news, The Crypt/Dark Symphonies are finally doing reissues of the first 2 Nuclear Death! I always regretted not getting the 5 years of death boxset so these will be nice to finally have.
(https://i.ibb.co/CsTcfvdb/FB-IMG-1762021582752.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qFPSv9GN)
Not that I think it is a good idea but I wonder if there exists a Discworld themed metal band somewhere out there.
Hoked out Nightfall for a spin this evening and as always the question arose in my head, why wasn't Samarithan just called Samaritan? Mispelling?. Misprint? Artistic License?
That's definitely not Robert Smith on the first track of the new Blut Aus Nord masterpiece. Right?
What is he meant to be sucking exactly?! :-[
QuoteThis lady in black came to me and she said,
Would you like to come home to my room?
I resisted all temptation, but I took her invitation,
I hope that she don't make me fall too soon
She said "Suck it and see"
It was all new to me,
All in a young child's dream
She said "Suck it and see"
Can't be happening to me,
But it's good if you know what I mean
Suck it and see
I'm lying in her arms, taking all her charms,
She took my heart and burned it to the core,
Taking all she could teach, 'cause it was in my reach,
I just wanted more and more and more
She said "Suck it and see"
It was all new to me,
All in a young child's dream
She said "Suck it and see"
Can't be happening to me,
But it's good if you know what I mean
Suck it and see
She said "Suck it and see"
It was all new to me,
All in a young child's dream
She said "Suck it and see"
Can't be happening to me,
But it's good if you know what I mean
The Dody Of Death?
Quote from: Mithrandir on November 25, 2025, 11:39:27 PMWhat is he meant to be sucking exactly?! :-[
QuoteThis lady in black came to me and she said,
Would you like to come home to my room?
I resisted all temptation, but I took her invitation,
I hope that she don't make me fall too soon
She said "Suck it and see"
It was all new to me,
All in a young child's dream
She said "Suck it and see"
Can't be happening to me,
But it's good if you know what I mean
Suck it and see
I'm lying in her arms, taking all her charms,
She took my heart and burned it to the core,
Taking all she could teach, 'cause it was in my reach,
I just wanted more and more and more
She said "Suck it and see"
It was all new to me,
All in a young child's dream
She said "Suck it and see"
Can't be happening to me,
But it's good if you know what I mean
Suck it and see
She said "Suck it and see"
It was all new to me,
All in a young child's dream
She said "Suck it and see"
Can't be happening to me,
But it's good if you know what I mean
If ya have to ask 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm not familiar with this piece, but it appears that the 'lady in black' is a witch, and the narrator is sucking on her broomstick. It's unclear why the narrator is deriving pleasure from this activity, but perhaps this is an example of Steve Grimmett's peculiar fetishes.
RIP Steve
Steve was ahead of the curve with trans rights.
One of the new (young) lads at the lab rocked in today in an Absolute Elsewhere t-shirt :abbath:
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 26, 2025, 03:19:33 PMOne of the new (young) lads at the lab rocked in today in an Absolute Elsewhere t-shirt :abbath:
Give 'em the "Name three songs" treatment😂
:laugh:
This guy sounds like what Steve Vai would give birth too after being cream-pied by each guitarist from Exodus
Quote from: Giggles on November 28, 2025, 03:19:09 PMThis guy sounds like what Steve Vai would give birth too after being cream-pied by each guitarist from Exodus
Didn't think much of his solo, but the thumbs up/faraway look thing definitely projects him up the list of instagram guitarists.
Has anyone ordered from Asrar records? They've some interesting reissues but just seen their Ildjarn release will be their 400th(!!!) release since starting in 2019. I'm wondering what the quality of their reissues are if they're pumping them out at that rate? And how is that even possible? Bit of a heavy metal rumour mill about the guy behind it and how he finances all these releases and if his releases are actually official. Seems like a bit of a shitshow. I don't really care about that I just finally want a decent copy of the Zyklon B EP and it to turn up in one piece!
That Zyklon B record was only bootlegged earlier this year by another crowd. 400 releases in six years is insane. It would certainly make you wonder at the quality. He's "reissuing" the Sigrblot album and causing hullabaloo on ROD over that.
I tried to order that boot from total war but sold out before I got in :eyeroll:
Yeah I've seen that Sigrblot drama, seems like everyone connected to the band has said it's not official whatsoever but the guy has doubled down. I had a friend of a friend just have a box of stuff come in from Asrar be detained for destruction with a list of the contents in the box from customs. He reckons it's because the dude is putting the website on the outside of the box and they've got them on some sort of watch list. Maybe it's not worth the hassle/circus.
Oh shit :laugh: I have the Invictus LP and WTC CD (which might also be a boot according to that ROD thread) so I'm happy enough. I would have ordered a tshirt from Asrar but the colour is ugly as shit. Diarrhoea to be precise.
The lack of self awareness is strong in this one..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans (https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans)
Quote from: The Heretic on November 30, 2025, 05:22:54 PMThe lack of self awareness is strong in this one..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans (https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans)
Some things never change 😂
Quote from: The Heretic on November 30, 2025, 05:22:54 PMThe lack of self awareness is strong in this one..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans (https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans)
Quote"You evolve as a person, as a lyricist. My evolution as a lyricist, it goes from the rawest of the raw to the most heartfelt.
Wonder how he feels when his heartfelt lyrics sound like "uahhh, yeaaaaa, oww, wiiiii, maaaa, oooh! mwaaaghh! Huugh!" to the crowd?
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on November 30, 2025, 08:07:28 PMQuote from: The Heretic on November 30, 2025, 05:22:54 PMThe lack of self awareness is strong in this one..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans (https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans)
Quote"You evolve as a person, as a lyricist. My evolution as a lyricist, it goes from the rawest of the raw to the most heartfelt.
Wonder how he feels when his heartfelt lyrics sound like "uahhh, yeaaaaa, oww, wiiiii, maaaa, oooh! mwaaaghh! Huugh!" to the crowd?
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on November 30, 2025, 08:07:28 PMQuote from: The Heretic on November 30, 2025, 05:22:54 PMThe lack of self awareness is strong in this one..
https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans (https://blabbermouth.net/news/nikki-sixx-doesnt-like-to-see-artists-that-are-still-trying-to-act-25-and-theyre-65-i-dont-think-thats-cool-for-the-fans)
Quote"You evolve as a person, as a lyricist. My evolution as a lyricist, it goes from the rawest of the raw to the most heartfelt.
Wonder how he feels when his heartfelt lyrics sound like "uahhh, yeaaaaa, oww, wiiiii, maaaa, oooh! mwaaaghh! Huugh!" to the crowd?
Still quite suprised how long Fatty arsebuckle has stayed in the band. He must have something ridiculous on Nikki & Tommy.
Is the whistling wind sample in Mastodons Elephant Man the same as the one used for Call If Ktulu? Not exactly an important issue but to me they sound identical.
The Crown has just announced they're finishing up next year. Is there any band that has announced a farewell tour and actually stayed split up?
Sentenced, though I thibk even if Tenkula hadn't died, they still wouldn't have reformed. Since the split, they've kept very quiet, I think there was a book, and a box set released, and that's it. Even the website died a couple of years ago.
As for The Crown, must have run out of songs again, that was the reason for the first farewell.
While on the subject, there was (or is about to be) a bunch of Sentenced reissues lately, I can't remember whether is was on Hammerheart or Cosmic Key.
10 years ago today (the original, that is):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMR3nD9cX9A
The bass tone on the Exhalants s/t is a total bastard I love it. You just can't beat a good bass tone really but it has to nearly sound like someone strumming pylon wires for the rattle and clank you need in it for true violence.
Quote from: ochoill on December 11, 2025, 10:20:00 PMThe bass tone on the Exhalants s/t is a total bastard I love it. You just can't beat a good bass tone really but it has to nearly sound like someone strumming pylon wires for the rattle and clank you need in it for true violence.
What a fucking band they were. Porcelain is great and all, but Exhalants were something else
Having watched the two new Worm videos back to back today, it crossed my mind that he might be attempting to be the Garth Marenghi of extreme metal
Quote from: Pentagrimes on December 21, 2025, 03:44:18 PMHaving watched the two new Worm videos back to back today, it crossed my mind that he might be attempting to be the Garth Marenghi of extreme metal
There's definitely a bit of that to the two videos.
So keeping in theme with the 90s Black Metal videos they're paying homage to.
I kept expecting Ancient to turn up in it 😂
Obituary is a good soundtrack to putting up a christmas tree.
Quote from: Carnage on December 23, 2025, 12:19:02 PMObituary is a good soundtrack to putting up a christmas tree.
Wrapped In Half! ;D
Slowly We Wrap.
Turned Tinsel Out
Elfecutioners Return
Claus of Death
I just came across an Anal Cunt song title on Ildjarn's Metal Archives page:
"Vidar Våer is a vegan"
:laugh:
Instantly reminded me of I'll Eat Your Face's anthem '300 euro gas bill' :laugh:
https://bsky.app/profile/johnxuandou.bsky.social/post/3lwb5uektm22l
Did The Wildhearts get lucky or thieve "Caprice", cos realistically it's far above their station. Top 50 of the 90s contender.
Quote from: Emphyrio on December 30, 2025, 06:22:54 PMDid The Wildhearts get lucky or thieve "Caprice", cos realistically it's far above their station. Top 50 of the 90s contender.
As aggravating as they are, Ginger's definitely got a knack for tunes.
I've never known the meaning of the word Welkin or seen its usage in any other context than in an album title.
I think Lovecraft used it but out from that it's a rare one, beautiful word though and after a quick Google to confirm, the meaning is 'the vault of the sky . Heaven.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/WelkinC.jpg)
The Westland Welkin.
Fair play, I think that was whizzing around over the Mountains Of Madness.
Probably the only place where it actually got to fly.
My phone's predictive text is spasticated (it also might be me) with the exception of when it comes to metal album titles. I just posted Kohort- Christian.... and it predicted Masquerade. At least it has the important information recorded 8)
Quote from: Barrytron on January 08, 2026, 05:40:01 AMIrresistible riff
That's a bloody killer guitar tone :abbath:
Is there any out there putting out as many consistently great albums as Phil Tougas?
Have his latest Exxul on, can add it to First Fragment, Worm, Chtheilist, Zeicrydeus, Voidceremony in the list of fucking class bands he's been in
Quote from: Trev on January 18, 2026, 08:50:08 PMIs there any out there putting out as many consistently great albums as Phil Tougas?
Have his latest Exxul on, can add it to First Fragment, Worm, Chtheilist, Zeicrydeus, Voidceremony in the list of fucking class bands he's been in
Honestly hadn't heard of the guy until that Worm video which was class.
That Exxul album is decent, have to give it a proper go on the headphones this week.
He overplays the fuck out of the Exxül album. Was looking forward to it based on the ffo bands but didn't like it at all. Don't think he writes for VoidCeremony. Chthe'ilist was great. Great player but I'm not arsed with most of his stuff.
Zeicrydeus sounded cool but I haven't returned to it. I might grab an LP at some point.
Not sure where else exactly to put this but I'm going in to see D666 with Impiety and a few other bands tomorrow night. Should be fun. Secret location and all to keep pesky Antifa from sticking their oar in. Looking forward to meeting up with young (though at this stage, not young at all) Mithrandir who I haven't seen in, what, ten years? More??
It's mad that the likes of D666 have to go to those lengths. I know yer man KK is a loudmouth spa but the music is not at all extremist. I suppose the having to do shows in secret aspect helps the kvlt mystique too :laugh: :abbath:
Antifa are a headache over here if you're into (good) metal. They really try to get everything cancelled. Feck it, should be good to go tomorrow I think 8)
Quote from: Born of Fire on January 23, 2026, 12:15:45 PMI suppose the having to do shows in secret aspect helps the kvlt mystique too :laugh: :abbath:
It is and it isn't. I have been to a handful of shows were the venue is only announced on the day and when you are travelling from abroad it's a pain in the bollox because you don't know what hotel to book as you don't know where the show is going to be. I wanted to go to a show last year but couldn't due to no info being provided beforehand and the place itself was going to be in the middle of nowhere meaning if you weren't driving you risked not even making the show or being stranded all night after it as public transport was non existent and taxis were scarce / cost a bomb.
It's bad for the likes of us in Ireland were gig numbers struggle so a promoter isn't even going to try something like this as it's almost a guarantee less people will attend. I would put money on it that nobody will try to bring D666 to Ireland ever again after all the tantrums that were thrown before the show last November because it would just be too big of a risk financially if the show ends up not happening due to outside interference.
That's a load of bollix :laugh:
I remember being at Dynamo Metal Fest in Eindhoven in 2018, and Ministry played. Uncle Al, the junkie prick, started his Antifa shenanigans, and the crowd absolutely lit in anger. I've never seen so much beer flying through the air. The absolute sap, and his little tiny vein less puny arms :laugh:
Here, at 1:08-1:09, is that who I think it is??
https://youtu.be/sN9quQ-ox2U?si=aIZlWPM-j7mrTlG6&t=69
Dawals?
Yeah... I'm here second-guessing myself. But if it is him, I'm disappointed he didn't say "MachineFUCKIN'Head!" :laugh:
Nah it's not him, too young. The lad in the video only looks in his 50s...
So like, a grandson maybe..? :laugh:
:o perhaps!
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 23, 2026, 11:09:04 AMNot sure where else exactly to put this but I'm going in to see D666 with Impiety and a few other bands tomorrow night. Should be fun. Secret location and all to keep pesky Antifa from sticking their oar in. Looking forward to meeting up with young (though at this stage, not young at all) Mithrandir who I haven't seen in, what, ten years? More??
Eh, rude??
Haha nah easily that long which is scary, plenty of shite talking to catch up on :abbath:
Any metal in Melbourne that is deemed remotely 'unsafe' or 'sketch' even by association is literally considered a Nazi rally it seems, it's actually fucked here. There were community safety warnings posted around the place for the last Australian Antichrist fest that Diocletian played warning people to stay inside and be vigilant :laugh: :laugh:
I don't think there'll be any fear of Antifa this year, bikie gangs are a bit harder to intimidate than bar owners.
Sure, I was at Diocletian. It was a very dangerous environment indeed. I was lucky to escape alive!
Didn't Melbourne have several marches by actual Neo Nazis in the last couple years?! So lads don't even need to try and make out metal gigs to be the boogeyman there :-X
Yep. All twenty of them took to the streets :laugh:
The gig was a buzz tonight and deadly to catch up with Mithrandir after so many years. Strangely he was going on about that time he wrote half the songs on both the Malthusian and Vircolac demos! :P
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 24, 2026, 02:32:35 PMThe gig was a buzz tonight and deadly to catch up with Mithrandir after so many years. Strangely he was going on about that time he wrote half the songs on both the Malthusian and Vircolac demos! :P
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yeah fucking killer day out! Destroyer showed why they stay on top above all the bullshit, just fucking pure unadulterated heavy metal mania, kk was fucking off his tits too, the whole thing was chaotic in the best way. It was their first time ever playing the song Unchain The Wolves live apparently. Impiety were cool too. The show was in an Outlaws MC clubhouse which was cool even if the whole thing was pretty covert, they run a tight ship those bikies.
(https://i.imgur.com/GOsnAkn.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S988BWm.jpeg)
Round 2 for me tomorrow, 4 hour heavy metal boat cruise with D666 and Impiety again, what could go wrong?!
Your heading on the boat? Is it the same lineup again? I'm curious to hear how that goes.
Yeah I wasn't originally going but once I heard it was on a boat it seemed too weird to miss, it leaves tomorrow at 12 from somewhere in Docklands near Marvel stadium and comes back at 4. It's D666 and Impiety again with Bastardizer opening. I don't know them but I think they play Midnight kinda stuff?
Afternoon show. How strange. Enjoy.
Don't know what's going on with my algorithm but clips of Death, and Some Kind of Monster, keep popping up on my youtube. Got me wondering what would have happened if Steve Digiorgio went for the bass audition
He'd have laughed and quickly left with his dignity intact?
Quote from: Mithrandir on January 25, 2026, 05:42:31 AMYeah I wasn't originally going but once I heard it was on a boat it seemed too weird to miss, it leaves tomorrow at 12 from somewhere in Docklands near Marvel stadium and comes back at 4. It's D666 and Impiety again with Bastardizer opening. I don't know them but I think they play Midnight kinda stuff?
I was on a boat show once on the Thames. Some awards ceremony pre-show. It was Orange Goblin and Kill Devil Hill. Good times, and a unique experience, have fun!
Type O Negative - Kill All The White People
And
REM - Orange Crush
Anyone know the connection?
Apart from the tricolour?
Michael Stipes blood used to be O Neg?
Pete Steele was in the Order?
Quote from: astfgyl on January 29, 2026, 01:48:02 PMType O Negative - Kill All The White People
And
REM - Orange Crush
Anyone know the connection?
It's the marine marching chant isn't it? Or was it right about the blood type? :laugh:
Quote from: The Great Cull on January 29, 2026, 04:06:03 PMQuote from: astfgyl on January 29, 2026, 01:48:02 PMType O Negative - Kill All The White People
And
REM - Orange Crush
Anyone know the connection?
It's the marine marching chant isn't it? Or was it right about the blood type? :laugh:
Yep it's the exact same sample. Randomly heard it listening to the REM tune yesterday and couldn't believe it never noticed it before, given how many times I've heard both songs
After watching couple of Deicide shows from the 90's I'm mighty impressed. I guess up until now I just didn't pay attention to the fact of how much of a live force they used to be.
Hoffman brothers guitar work at it's best is truly unique in pursue of brutality and rough catchiness.
Deicide are back to being great live again and have been since the Legion in full tour a few years ago. Taylor Nordberg the current guitarist is really good.
Would be cool to see Glenn get into spiked armour again.
Of the more recent stuff, have watched this loads: https://youtu.be/tlnLWvEmbNk?si=27E0wlllVIDHhxIx
When did they last play here? Would love to see them again. Caught them a heap in the mid/late 2000s and not since I don't think.
Quote from: Squigs on January 29, 2026, 11:29:50 PMWhen did they last play here? Would love to see them again. Caught them a heap in the mid/late 2000s and not since I don't think.
2007 I think. They were suppose to play in April 2022 but it got cancelled.
Quote from: mickO))) on January 29, 2026, 09:00:38 PMDeicide are back to being great live again and have been since the Legion in full tour a few years ago. Taylor Nordberg the current guitarist is really good.
Just watched "Satan spawn..." performed at Brutal Assault a year or two ago. It sounded... incredibly proggy. Not in a bad way.
Quote from: Mooncat on January 27, 2026, 05:20:13 PMQuote from: Mithrandir on January 25, 2026, 05:42:31 AMYeah I wasn't originally going but once I heard it was on a boat it seemed too weird to miss, it leaves tomorrow at 12 from somewhere in Docklands near Marvel stadium and comes back at 4. It's D666 and Impiety again with Bastardizer opening. I don't know them but I think they play Midnight kinda stuff?
I was on a boat show once on the Thames. Some awards ceremony pre-show. It was Orange Goblin and Kill Devil Hill. Good times, and a unique experience, have fun!
Late update but it was savage day out on the boat, spinal tap esque scenes of KK standing at the bow of the ship as it slowly came in to dock :laugh: We had to re-dock as some fucked girl on a bender passed out and the medics had to come on board, but apart from that and a broken string for KK everything seemed to go without a hitch. D666 and Impiety were great, Bastardizer were grand but not overly interesting to me. Definitely the most unique venue for a show I've been to, the boat was sweaty as fuck but a weekend to remember for sure. Some autistic/special needs dude brought KK's whole discography on board for him to sign including the Raven's Wing LP, even KK was a bit taken aback by that one :laugh:
I had a dude standing next to me and couldn't figure out why I recognized him, it was Niklas from Bardo Methodology!
Then was talking to to this girl who handed me a Morbosidad guitar pick and said she used to play for them apparently. A lot of random as fuck run-ins.
Savage. Sounds like it was worth the effort.
Happy Candlemas fuckers. You know what to do :abbath: :abbath:
I had absolutely no idea, until I read it five minutes ago, that Rob Halford did backing vocals on Feel Good Hit Of The Summer by QOTSA. I'll have to give the song a listen later and keep an ear out.
Read that before alright but it fell out of my brain immediately.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 04, 2026, 08:33:05 PMI had absolutely no idea, until I read it five minutes ago, that Rob Halford did backing vocals on Feel Good Hit Of The Summer by QOTSA. I'll have to give the song a listen later and keep an ear out.
Yeah it's unmistakeably Rob doing the back ups.
Where did this band Faetooth come from and why are they everywhere all of a sudden? Seems like they suddenly showed up on a Roadburn bill out of nowhere a year or two ago and suddenly are signed to a hip (albeit very good) label, touring all over,endorsements, press, all on the strength of what to me sounds like a slightly more depressed 90s grunge album with a HM2 on it. I don't get it. Do they just have incredibly powerful management/connections or a load of money behind them?
They're not awful or anything (pretty generic though) but as someone who I'd like to think has a fairly good grasp of underground heavy music they really do seem to have just appeared at random and are sudddenly inexpllicably everywhere i look. I mean I'm not saying "industry plant" exactly, buuut.....
Quote from: Pentagrimes on February 05, 2026, 10:06:51 AMWhere did this band Faetooth come from and why are they everywhere all of a sudden? Seems like they suddenly showed up on a Roadburn bill out of nowhere a year or two ago and suddenly are signed to a hip (albeit very good) label, touring all over,endorsements, press, all on the strength of what to me sounds like a slightly more depressed 90s grunge album with a HM2 on it. I don't get it. Do they just have incredibly powerful management/connections or a load of money behind them?
They're not awful or anything (pretty generic though) but as someone who I'd like to think has a fairly good grasp of underground heavy music they really do seem to have just appeared at random and are sudddenly inexpllicably everywhere i look. I mean I'm not saying "industry plant" exactly, buuut.....
Now that you mention that, and in fairness, it's news to me.. but there is a fair bang of 'music machine hits' off it alright.
That's been happening right across the music spectrum for quite a few years now.
Good spot friend.
I've seen a lot of bands have that accusation at them recently where it's clearly bullshit (the band Scowl for example had been around the hardcore scene for years), and the pattern is that it's usually a term thrown by arsey men at bands with a female front person to undermine their contribution - I'm very concious of that. But this band do genuinely make me wonder what the story is for once,it all seems a bit sudden.
I could say the same about the band Peeling Flesh actually, again another band I've no interest in but they seem to have just appeared to massive acclaim. The hardcore scene is considerably more faddish though so that's a little more explainable to me.
Happy to be set straigh on both bands, incidentally, should my suspicions be ungrounded.
The issue people have with Scowl is they basically sold out on the last record and made a pop album.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on February 05, 2026, 10:06:51 AMWhere did this band Faetooth come from and why are they everywhere all of a sudden?
I don't know how promotion works but there may be pipelines that
me older metallers perhaps aren't totally aware of or use too much. The younger crowd could be picking up on bands through a larger spread of stuff like Discords and TikTok maybe spreading a lot themselves before it hits those of us who don't totally. There has been a noticeable uptick in younger people in the crowds of the gigs I've been to and I wondered where they all came from. Haven't a clue about the endorsements/press etc.
I wonder has the risk changed in terms of putting a band out on tour. It could be that post-Covid people are less discerning in what gigs they go to nowadays depending on funds so there's less risk to put a band out there. For example, last year I went to Wormrot and Night Demon without ever knowing either, as did one of my friends. I actually would have gone to Faetooth last weekend even though I only listened to them this week, but I was at Abhorration.
I'm choosing to believe the rise in non irish people and labels describing releases as 'deadly' is the international irish influence.
Went to see Dead Congregation there on Wednesday, still an absolutely force of nature live. The new young lad on guitar brings massive energy, I didn't realise T.K had left until I checked this week, don't know how I missed that. You'd forget how technical their stuff actually is until it's in front of you. I was hoping for maybe a teaser of some new stuff but it was just that Dismal Realms track they been playing for 4-ish years now. Bumped into A.V and got to say hello but was just as Concrete winds were starting so didn't really get to chat, i'm sure he's sick of people asking anyway. Massive sound from Concrete winds too with just the 2 guitars and no bass.
Also it's been longer between Graves of the Archangels coming out to now than the time between Covenant to Graves being released ??? Shit like that trips me out.
That's a killer lineup, where was that on?
The Dead Congregation release schedule is sparse, but unintentionally, it has really kept me interested in them. Had they racked up and album every 2-3 years, I'd have probably lost heed in them, whereas I'll go through a burst of listening to them still, a few times a year.
Edit: Wrong thread
Quote from: Squigs on February 09, 2026, 02:15:52 PMThat's a killer lineup, where was that on?
The Dead Congregation release schedule is sparse, but unintentionally, it has really kept me interested in them. Had they racked up and album every 2-3 years, I'd have probably lost heed in them, whereas I'll go through a burst of listening to them still, a few times a year.
It was am Aus/NZ tour, I caught it in Brisbane. Weirdly low turn out, probably max 60 people if even.
And yeah true, that's a good point. It could go either way, where do they go from here? They could go out on a high and call it quits or just tour these albums forever but then look at the likes of Immolation and Incantation, they released some of their best stuff 3 or 4 albums in so I'm always hopeful.
Immolation have a more or less flawless back catalogue and I'll pick up every new release, but once a new one comes out, more often than not, the one prior starts to gather dust. They're high quality but expendable too.
Graves of the Archangels could legally buy a pint in Ireland now but it somehow still sounds kinda fresh.
Dunno what my point is, but in that sorta 08-14 period lots of "throwback" death metal came, most of it it went, but DC always have my interest.
Atonement is at the top of the pack when it comes to post-Unholy Cult Immolation, the other recent ones I find just sort of blend in to each other but they knocked it out of the park with that one.
Just listening to the Yosuke/NWN interview with J-Dawg/HellsHeadbangers and he's trying to get a new Blasphemy album out, now if there was ever a band that didn't need a new release it's Blasphemy!
Been talk of a new Blasphemy album since Victory (Son of the Damned) was released 25 years ago it's never going to happen. Ryan is the only one in the band with any drive the rest couldn't be bothered. More chance of seeing the Sadistic Intent or Dark Sonority full lengths than a 3rd Blasphemy album.
Mad find in the charity shop
(https://i.imgur.com/oZYhlni.jpeg)
For that price they can get fucked though.
Damn right, fifteen dollars for a poxy vase ,no way jose.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Belleek changed style after the 1st vase, going more black
A Vase in the Northern Sky
Neptune Flowers
Under A Fuschia Bloom
???