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Metal Discussion => Gigs and Festivals => Topic started by: TomM on September 10, 2023, 01:12:40 AM

Title: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: TomM on September 10, 2023, 01:12:40 AM
Primordial playing Mchughs in Drogheda next Friday night. Billed as a new tour preview show. Support from Drogheda band Raum Kingdom. Hopefully we'll get some of the new songs. Tickets selling well on tickets top.ie
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Squigs on September 10, 2023, 04:50:53 PM
Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Squigs on September 14, 2023, 10:47:25 AM
Given that this is likely the last Primordial album, I wonder if they're combining this into a farewell tour/set too. Be cool to hear some proper old stuff.

Can't imagine their last gigs are for a while yet either way.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: jobrok1 on September 14, 2023, 10:58:23 AM
Where has all this 'Last Album' talk come from?
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Squigs on September 14, 2023, 11:12:32 AM
Album is called How It Ends and moreso Alan has made allusions to it on his podcast (allegedly, I've not listened).
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: jobrok1 on September 14, 2023, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: Squigs on September 14, 2023, 11:12:32 AMAlbum is called How It Ends....


It is...???     :laugh:

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Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: KingHostile on September 15, 2023, 06:29:17 AM
I remember one time in the early 90's a guitarist (not primordial) on the bill got a beautiful shark fin jackson flying V. The kind of thing Andreas Kisser was known for at the time. Beautiful!

Hit a Korn/Manson/tracksuit phase and decided to down tune with the heaviest strings he could find....."bink" neck gone, guitar gone!
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Circlepit on September 16, 2023, 12:11:35 PM
Any reports on this gig?
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Squigs on September 16, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
It was really good - Primordial played for 1hr45 minimum I'd say. Reasonable spread across the catalogue. Felt like a treat for them to be playing in a small venue.

In no order and just what I remember -
Empire Falls
Coffin Ships
Autumns Ablaze
Failure Has...
Lain With The Wolf
Gods to the Godless
No Nation on this Earth
Maybe two other new tracks
Where Greater Men Have Fallen
To Hell or the Hangman
No Grave Deep Enough
As Rome Burns
Sons of the Morrigan

Raum Kingdom were decent, didn't hold my attention for the duration though. Very busy, lots of people travelled down.

The only time in recent years I've been in McHughs was during the Fleadh in 2019 to see my mam play ukulele so this was a different sorta buzz haha
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: open face surgery on September 16, 2023, 02:06:52 PM
Saw a setlist that had How It Ends and a song maybe abbreviated to Pilgramage so that your 2 other new ones.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Squigs on September 16, 2023, 02:51:58 PM
Mad to me how TGW is just relegated to just Coffin Ships now. I'd take anything else off it over a lot/most of post-TTND material.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Naraka on September 16, 2023, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: Squigs on September 16, 2023, 02:51:58 PMMad to me how TGW is just relegated to just Coffin Ships now. I'd take anything else off it over a lot/most of post-TTND material.

Totally agree. I'd love to hear them play The Golden Spiral.
Enjoyed the gig. The sound was a bit all over the place at times, especially during Raum Kingdom.
Raum Kingdom did nothing for me but seemed to have a decent following in the crowd.
Primordial were deadly. They seemed to be enjoying themselves too. The new songs sounded great live.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: KingHostile on September 16, 2023, 04:20:26 PM
Was all geared up to go to this..... but didn't make it!
Kicking myself this morning!
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Circlepit on September 16, 2023, 06:52:35 PM
Did he pull off those high pitched vocals from the new ones and who was on second guitar?
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Don Gately on September 16, 2023, 07:35:09 PM
The gathering wilderness is the zenith for me
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 16, 2023, 11:25:44 PM
I just fired on TGW. I think that Coffin Ships is probably my least favorite song on the album to be honest. And I still think it's a good song; I just think that the rest of the album is better. It always seems to me that they hold that tune in such high regard that it has maybe derailed them a bit. There have been numerous attempts since to recapture it's emotional weight or significance, mostly with diminishing returns. Even the most recent single they put out (a good song in its own right ) is another attempt to capitalise on the Irish diaspora. I'm fed up to fuck with the subject. I would love if Alan left the geopolitical stuff behind at this stage. It was grand for one or two albums (songs??) but it's beyond stale in 2023.

Anyway, the point I was making before going into a rant was that pretty much all of TGW is worthy of a place in their live set.


Edit. Song of the Tomb! What a ripper.

Edit edit. Ok ok, I definitely went overboard a bit there. Coffin Ships is a damn good song. Its legacy is my real issue.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: 04325613 on September 17, 2023, 06:48:57 AM
Pretty sure Cast to the Pyre was in there too..

I went out to this and it was great, a packed, cool venue right next to the castle. Realised I hadn't seen em since 2016, back then they were playing far too much of Greater Men, Redemption and TTND. Had no interest in Exile either but suprisingly it feels like these new tracks are leaning more toward the classics.

Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Circlepit on September 17, 2023, 08:56:56 AM
Somebody posted stuff on YouTube. It seemed the whole place was getting into it and AA was smiling loads!
Had to watch the live dvd after that. The version of Coffin Ships on that is killer.
Lean and mean. 

Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: open face surgery on September 17, 2023, 02:56:03 PM
TGW is probably my favourite as well, and I agree that it's a shame that we hear nothing else off it.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Squigs on September 17, 2023, 03:34:45 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on September 16, 2023, 11:25:44 PMI just fired on TGW. I think that Coffin Ships is probably my least favorite song on the album to be honest. And I still think it's a good song; I just think that the rest of the album is better. It always seems to me that they hold that tune in such high regard that it has maybe derailed them a bit. There have been numerous attempts since to recapture it's emotional weight or significance, mostly with diminishing returns. Even the most recent single they put out (a good song in its own right ) is another attempt to capitalise on the Irish diaspora. I'm fed up to fuck with the subject. I would love if Alan left the geopolitical stuff behind at this stage. It was grand for one or two albums (songs??) but it's beyond stale in 2023.

Anyway, the point I was making before going into a rant was that pretty much all of TGW is worthy of a place in their live set.


Edit. Song of the Tomb! What a ripper.

Edit edit. Ok ok, I definitely went overboard a bit there. Coffin Ships is a damn good song. Its legacy is my real issue.

It's the same as any song that becomes a true staple of a live set, in fairness.

I listened to TGW yesterday and it's perfect for the grey Autumn days. End of All Times is prob my fav off it. It's the start of the modern sound they have, in terms of BIG songs, but not quite fully realized.

There are two types of Primordial songs played live, the ones that start with clap alongs and the ones that don't. And TGW stuff doesn't quite fit into either category.
Title: Re: Primordial + Raum Kingdom - McHughs, Drogheda, Friday 15th September
Post by: Alphonsus on September 17, 2023, 04:08:56 PM
Just about the right amount of people or so for the venue in what seemed to be at first a pokey old mans pub until I realise there was something at the back and even upstairs.
I always enjoy visiting Drogheda although it has some serious dereliction but I guess that's not even unusual. Also I now know a decent hostel there which might be useful in the future.

Raum Kingdom I never heard of before but really enjoyed them kind of leaning towards Amenra side of slow paced heaviness

Primordial I honestly worried if they wound turn everything up to eleven and blast everyone with a wall of noise from a broken pa or something.
Anyway looking at all the amps set up on stage beforehand was reassuring and indeed the whole thing sounded great.
Got a little busy drinking and jigging about to give my full attention in respectful and dignified listen but sure whatever.