Seems like their last one only came out last year. Couldn't really get into it. Either way, they're going again with an album out September 22nd.
Tune is cool enough despite the dynamic-less Corpsegrinder performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GrnsGJILno
Not terribly exciting.
Yep, more of the same from them for 20 odd years. Listened to the last one a few times as I have been on an earlier, up to Bloodthirst, CC buzz for the last year or two, but it left me cold. I'd imagine an album of this would be the same.
Yup. Sterile production and dull vocals. There's just no atmosphere to it.
Not bad but not amazing either. At least they have been consistent over the years and didn't go down the sell out path so many others did like Cryptopsy, MA etc. Personally I enjoyed the last album and overall it seemed to be pretty well received just wish I had bought one of those LPs with the uncensored art when it was available.
I wonder will they come here when touring this upcoming album. It was disappointing that they didn't in April since they did 4 shows in England and one in Scotland.
It's alright, a bit generic. Reminds me a bit of Back From Beyond era Massacre.
I don't know why, but I get a bit excited when I see a new Cannibal Corpse song despite knowing it is going to be middle of the road.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 22, 2023, 01:33:21 PMYup. Sterile production and dull vocals. There's just no atmosphere to it.
The sterile production and lack of atmosphere is what I call the Eric Rutan effect.
Last HE album would suggest otherwise.
Quote from: open face surgery on June 22, 2023, 11:08:27 PMLast HE album would suggest otherwise.
I haven't been able to bring myself to listen to it man, I've designs on Hate Eternal since King Of All Kings.
Its a matter of personal taste but I think HE are over-hyped fucking rubbish to be honest and I think a lot of the stuff Rutan produced just sounds samey samey, wall of noise with no real life to it type thing.
Sure I'll put my dislike of auld Eric to one side and give it a listen and see.
QuoteNot bad but not amazing either. At least they have been consistent over the years and didn't go down the sell out path so many others did
I think you're slightly overpraising them there. The last 5-6 albums are interchangeable, to be honest I'd even go back as far as Bloodthirst or Gallery to reference the last time I really enjoyed a Corpse record. All recent output is completely sterile with identical sound and the worst vocal patterns committed to tape. Corpsegrinder has being doing the same thing since he joined them, effective to a point but couldn't listen to another album of that. Even the song titles look like they were taken from a song title generator or something "Pitchfork Impalement"???
I do get the excitement for a release like this, their first four albums are stone cold classics that deliver four distinctly different takes. When you've albums like that in your back catalogue people will always come back. I enjoyed the opening riff, obviously written by Rutan it sounded like Morbid Angel but it quickly fell apart after that. Especially when the vocals kicked in, can't stress how awful Corpsegrinder is.
And just to take up the point about Consistency, sure they've never released an out and out clanger of a record but it's too soft to compare them to Cryptopsy who went off the rails completely. Immolation, Incantation etc should be the benchmark there as two examples. Still giving both of their latter-day releases a decent amount of airtime.
Quote from: mickO))) on June 22, 2023, 01:37:48 PMI wonder will they come here when touring this upcoming album. It was disappointing that they didn't in April since they did 4 shows in England and one in Scotland.
Would be awesome if they brought the lineup from their forthcoming US tour here - Cannibal, Mayhem, Gorguts and Blood Incantation. Now that's a night of metal!
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on June 23, 2023, 08:15:16 AMQuoteNot bad but not amazing either. At least they have been consistent over the years and didn't go down the sell out path so many others did
I think you're slightly overpraising them there.
I have said that before myself maybe not here but on the old forum that Cannibal don't have that classic album like an Altars, Legion, Deicide, None So Vile etc. Maybe Bloodthirst and Tomb would be the closest things they have to classics but I still think they have been very consistent especially for a band that has released 14 albums so far with some a lot better than others but nothing bad or unlistenable.
I have listened to that song a few times now and I am enjoying it more and more with each listen. I would rate Incantation and Immo higher than Cannibal with Incantations first 3 full length's being some of the best DM ever released and Immo having 2 - 3 classic albums that always change depending on who you are talking to which is always a sign of a great band.
Incantation and Immo are 2 other bands that are long overdue shows here. Last time I remember seeing Incantation in Dublin was 2007 in the Voodoo lounge that was a support slot and so was the show with Nile in Temple Bar. I don't think they have ever even played a headline show in Ireland.
Quote from: The Ancient Ones on June 23, 2023, 02:38:34 PMWould be awesome if they brought the lineup from their forthcoming US tour here - Cannibal, Mayhem, Gorguts and Blood Incantation. Now that's a night of metal!
I saw that tour lineup yesterday and I hope to be in Toronto before the end of the year but unfortunately the show there is on in September and I won't be over by then. It would have been great to see Gorguts again.
When I lived there Cannibal only played twice over the space of 5 years one show I couldn't get to because I was going on a weekend away and the other was in 2019 with Perdition Temple supporting I had my work xmas party before and got too pissed so I missed the gig. Now since shows started up again this is the third time in just over a year they have played in Toronto and the last time Immolation was on the bill >:(
QuoteThe sterile production and lack of atmosphere is what I call the Eric Rutan effect.
Ha I agree with this 100% - I first noticed it when he produced Devourment. All the dirt and gore from the sound was just totally pulled out of it.
I was always a massive Cannibal fan - I recently purchased the Bible of Butchery book on Amazon but have no interest in this new album, a fact I found kind of amusing to be honest. They lost me after Gore Obsessed. So I guess I like everything until Jack Owen left, from that point feels like the songs have no soul, all just bonkers OTT riffs you can't hear with the same thrash drum beat and predictable vocals.
Having said all that I liked them so much for so long that I will always think of them fondly in general, and you have to respect their touring/work ethic. They work hard and deserve their success. I often watch the 92 - 94 live stuff that appears on Youtube which is always classic. They said they overtoured for The Bleeding. The last Barnes gigs were Australia, some good stuff from that era online. In fact for CC nerds there are also all Jack's home videos if you can find them...just walking around taking to Barnes going to the store etc during the Morrisound sessions. You'd want to be 9 cans in but cool enough to see that point of time if you love those albums.
Quote from: Barrytron on June 24, 2023, 11:54:29 AMQuoteThe sterile production and lack of atmosphere is what I call the Eric Rutan effect.
Ha I agree with this 100% - I first noticed it when he produced Devourment. All the dirt and gore from the sound was just totally pulled out of it.
I was always a massive Cannibal fan - I recently purchased the Bible of Butchery book on Amazon but have no interest in this new album, a fact I found kind of amusing to be honest. They lost me after Gore Obsessed. So I guess I like everything until Jack Owen left, from that point feels like the songs have no soul, all just bonkers OTT riffs you can't hear with the same thrash drum beat and predictable vocals.
Having said all that I liked them so much for so long that I will always think of them fondly in general, and you have to respect their touring/work ethic. They work hard and deserve their success. I often watch the 92 - 94 live stuff that appears on Youtube which is always classic. They said they overtoured for The Bleeding. The last Barnes gigs were Australia, some good stuff from that era online. In fact for CC nerds there are also all Jack's home videos if you can find them...just walking around taking to Barnes going to the store etc during the Morrisound sessions. You'd want to be 9 cans in but cool enough to see that point of time if you love those albums.
9 I'd agree with for the most part. The Wretched Spawn was their last really catchy album, and Owens last album with them. I enjoyed Kill when it was released, but find the last few albums kind of meld together. Same kind of sound and dynamics, hard to differentiate between them to be honest.
Line up for the tour in the US is brilliant.
Must check out the new HE album, or the last one. I dropped off some years ago.
Rutan is all over this..... but yeah I'll buy this.
The last Hate Eternal album was great and now that Johnny Longstreth has joined I can't wait to see what they come up with next.
Didn't realise Longstreth had joined them. Deadly.
Kill is last one that I really liked.
The rest since have their moments but I could take them or leave them.
I only bought one Hate Eternal album; Fury and Flames. It's a bit of a mess when it comes to the mix. I gave up on it after a few spins despite wanting to like it.
First three only ,the bleeding is not that great .
Don't know how anyone would fork out for the shite they peddle these days
The Bleeding not great??,crack pip Monday!!
The Bleeding is their best album as far as I'm concerned. Every song is catchy as hell, has its own identity and while being brutal also give off a real aura of twisted evil and darkness. Superb album. I think the production is great too. You can hear everything clearly but it's warm and musty sounding as opposed to the more punchy and clear (and ultimately soulless) sound they developed later.
QuoteThe Bleeding is their best album as far as I'm concerned. Every song is catchy as hell, has its own identity and while being brutal also give off a real aura of twisted evil and darkness. Superb album. I think the production is great too. You can hear everything clearly but it's warm and musty sounding as opposed to the more punchy and clear (and ultimately soulless) sound they developed later.
It is astonishing that they were capable of writing such good songs back then, especially on that album. Not only is the stuff soulless now, it's completely forgettable. How can the craft of putting the material together just desert a band.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on June 26, 2023, 01:04:23 PMQuoteThe Bleeding is their best album as far as I'm concerned. Every song is catchy as hell, has its own identity and while being brutal also give off a real aura of twisted evil and darkness. Superb album. I think the production is great too. You can hear everything clearly but it's warm and musty sounding as opposed to the more punchy and clear (and ultimately soulless) sound they developed later.
It is astonishing that they were capable of writing such good songs back then, especially on that album. Not only is the stuff soulless now, it's completely forgettable. How can the craft of putting the material together just desert a band.
Look at Metallica. Same thing. A mass lobotomy occurred sometime in the past twenty five years or so.
The Bleeding is my top pick as well. First 4 all had something slightly different going on for them. I enjoy all 90's Corpse.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 26, 2023, 01:08:46 PMQuote from: Pagan Saviour on June 26, 2023, 01:04:23 PMQuoteThe Bleeding is their best album as far as I'm concerned. Every song is catchy as hell, has its own identity and while being brutal also give off a real aura of twisted evil and darkness. Superb album. I think the production is great too. You can hear everything clearly but it's warm and musty sounding as opposed to the more punchy and clear (and ultimately soulless) sound they developed later.
It is astonishing that they were capable of writing such good songs back then, especially on that album. Not only is the stuff soulless now, it's completely forgettable. How can the craft of putting the material together just desert a band.
Look at Metallica. Same thing. A mass lobotomy occurred sometime in the past twenty five years or so.
They lost all their catchiness and songwriting chops when Jack Owen left.
Webster and Barret made huge contributions to that album. Arguably Webster made the most, he's credited on all but one of the tracks on it. A triviality maybe but reinforces the point that 2/3 of the songwriters for that record are still in the band.
Have The Bleeding on now,a masterpiece!
The Bleeding, best track: 'an experiment in homicide' (not referenced much but awesome)
although I also like the album 'Gallery of Suicide' (and prefer the censored cover over the OG cover for some reason)
Question about covers, why was the cover for 'The Bleeding' changed? I don't recall it being awful or controversial. Nowadays , most of the time, all you can find is this crappy reboot version.
QuoteQuestion about covers, why was the cover for 'The Bleeding' changed? I don't recall it being awful or controversial. Nowadays , most of the time, all you can find is this crappy reboot version.
There have been so many terrible versions of that cover! The original was the full painting, then the most popular Barnes-era pressing had the close up of the bloody flesh, then Barnes "was fired/quit" and took the logo rights with him, so all stuff since then and reissues have the lame capitalised logo instead, and some have the original full painting again, some don't depending on the release.
I like how they still use Vince Locke though, great that the art is consistent at least
Except the Locke's artwork has become progressively worse since The Bleeding. Cartoonish looking muck.
Yep, even the colour schemes are identical these days. It's like when Corpse ring he looks round the house for half finished sketches he did for previous records. Again, you're going all the way back to Gallery/Bloodthirst for the last decent front cover.
The original Bleeding artwork with the close up of the zombies arteries is terrible. That was the version I used to have as a teenager on CD the current art being used for the vinyl reissues is so much better. The artwork from Kill to red before black is not good but the uncensored Violence cover is great and I like this new artwork.
The Wretched Spawn cover is class!
Forgot about Wretched. It is indeed class in it's levels of absurdity.
Quote from: mickO))) on June 28, 2023, 12:56:08 PMThe original Bleeding artwork with the close up of the zombies arteries is terrible. That was the version I used to have as a teenager on CD the current art being used for the vinyl reissues is so much better. The artwork from Kill to red before black is not good but the uncensored Violence cover is great and I like this new artwork.
as mentioned The Wretched Spawn album cover is class, as is the EP Worm Infested. I used to have the shirt of that and wore it proudly. Oh, youthful arrogance ha ha ha
I remember some years ago getting a Wretched Spawn picture disc out of a voucher that the Mother in Law got me for Christmas. She messaged the Mrs and was all "Oh what did Adrian get out of the voucher?" and the Mrs, being desensitised to such things by that stage, sent her a picture of it. I didn't get anymore vouchers after that.
:laugh:
The friendly bus conductor on the Crosshaven bus stopped talking to me after I got on with the Wretched Spawn shirt :laugh:
On a few occasions as a young gossoon being dragged to mass on Sunday morning I 'accidentally wore my Deicide- Feasting the Beast tshirt. My ST- Send Me Your Money tshirt got a few airings as well 8)
The priest still probably has nightmares when he's not jerking off to the memory. What can I say, I was a hot 13 year old.
fm, i didn't even get time to listen to the last one and they've pumped a new one out
I wouldn't worry about it ,they're interchangable, you could probably buy one in every three these days and you'd have all the C.C. you need
Quote from: Thorn on July 17, 2023, 09:37:47 PMI wouldn't worry about it ,they're interchangable, you could probably buy one in every three these days and you'd have all the C.C. you need
pretty much isn't it. After Owens left they lost a kind of groove. He wrote some amount of hooks to be fair.
Metal blade just did a repress of Violence on vinyl with the uncensored art for anyone looking for it but it is only available from US distros. Mine arrived in the post yesterday it looks and sounds great.
For whatever reason it does indeed seem like all Cannibal Corpses releases now set for the EU market are being censored. I got Chaos from the US and it comes with a 4 page insert including all the lyrics whereas the EU version is just a double sided insert with no lyrics. Fairly shitty from Metal Blade as I can't see any legal reason for doing this and they aren't making people aware of it either.
Probably won't be long before the US versions are only available to people with a US address.
The censored art is irksome for sure. What was the postage on that record from the US?
I got it from Hells so the postage was the cheap DHL option they sold out of it in 2 days. Before they stocked it I was looking at other sites like Merchbar they were charging €17 for post. The record itself is 30 quid. If you want that version I would get it now as out of the 20 odd LP pressings they did for that album only 3 including this repress have the uncensored art and the previous 2 versions from 2021 sell for stupid money on Discogs.
Quote from: mickO))) on February 07, 2024, 12:07:47 PMMetal blade just did a repress of Violence on vinyl with the uncensored art for anyone looking for it but it is only available from US distros. Mine arrived in the post yesterday it looks and sounds great.
For whatever reason it does indeed seem like all Cannibal Corpses releases now set for the EU market are being censored. I got Chaos from the US and it comes with a 4 page insert including all the lyrics whereas the EU version is just a double sided insert with no lyrics. Fairly shitty from Metal Blade as I can't see any legal reason for doing this and they aren't making people aware of it either.
Probably won't be long before the US versions are only available to people with a US address.
Yea, bit poor on Metal Blade's side now. I don't care that there are censored versions per say, but I'd like the option as opposed to buying a copy and then having no lyric sheet which happened to me. Old man rant over ha ha ha
Kind of fucking mad that they need to censor the lyrics of a band named Cannibal Corpse. Surely people know what they are getting in for. If Webster wrote lyrics for Shaniah Twain then I'd get it... but Cannibal Corpse. Come on, society.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 09, 2024, 10:21:47 AMKind of fucking mad that they need to censor the lyrics of a band named Cannibal Corpse. Surely people know what they are getting in for. If Webster wrote lyrics for Shaniah Twain then I'd get it... but Cannibal Corpse. Come on, society.
I completely agree. It seems to me that they are trying to appear more edgy by having censored versions. Like "oh the lyrics are so offensive" essentially censoring themselves.
Quote from: Necro Red on February 09, 2024, 10:15:53 AMYea, bit poor on Metal Blade's side now. I don't care that there are censored versions per say, but I'd like the option as opposed to buying a copy and then having no lyric sheet which happened to me. Old man rant over ha ha ha
Probably kept quiet because it would affect sales. I just can't understand the reasoning behind it. I think even that ban on the first couple of albums being sold or songs being played live in Germany was lifted a few years ago. I also know plenty of bands with far worse lyrics then Cannibal whose records aren't being censored for the EU.
They've censored themselves for notoriety
Album shitific is the next one
Kerry king does a guest solo on all the songs and writes all the music
European tour just announced with a string of English dates but no Ireland once again. That's twice now in the last year that Ireland has been skipped. Very disappointing.
Quote from: mickO))) on March 25, 2024, 11:29:38 AMEuropean tour just announced with a string of English dates but no Ireland once again. That's twice now in the last year that Ireland has been skipped. Very disappointing.
Either the financial hit was a bit too much or no available venue.
That's a deadly lineup too. Schizophrenia are great, loads of Morbid Angel theft but done well!
When did they play here last? I saw them in 2006, I assume they've played since but I don't know why I wouldn't have pottered along at some point.
Think they were back twice since then. Did a show in the Academy 2010 and Tivoli + Limerick/Belfast in 2018
I was away when they last played but I think it was 2018. I was suppose to see myself in 2019 but due to being far too pissed I didn't make it to the show so I haven't seen them myself since around 2012 I think.
Immolation are supporting on this upcoming EU tour who I think also haven't been over here in a long time.
I'd go for Immolation alone - not to pushed on live Corpse these days, Fisher's vocals are so annoying and the sets feature too much new shit. They could do with an old school set at this stage.
Yea the last Immolation headline show was 2007 I think. A few support shows since just. They look like they are billed as second support, under Municipal Waste.
Makes sense why I missed CC in 2010 and 2018 when I see the dates there.
I think they headlined twice since then. The show with Macabre in the Village the time we had that really bad snow in 2010 and then the Marduk / Immo co-headline show that I think was in 2012.
I keep forgetting I didn't live here for 4 years and missed loads of gigs as a result haha
https://blabbermouth.net/news/cannibal-corpse-drummer-paul-mazurkiewicz-to-make-his-stand-up-comedy-debut-this-weekend
Quote from: mickO))) on March 25, 2024, 11:57:30 AMI think they headlined twice since then. The show with Macabre in the Village the time we had that really bad snow in 2010 and then the Marduk / Immo co-headline show that I think was in 2012.
Napalm Death headlined that one. Had to walk to Sandyford afterwards.