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Title: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Pagan Saviour on April 06, 2023, 06:54:55 PM
Didn't take long  :laugh:

https://blabbermouth.net/news/mick-mars-sues-motley-crue-over-tour-profits-says-all-of-nikki-sixxs-bass-tracks-on-the-stadium-tour-were-pre-recorded
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Bürggermeister on April 06, 2023, 08:39:33 PM
Carmine Appice let the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago. I can't believe they dumped Mick for the personality and riff-vacuum that is John 5.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: astfgyl on April 06, 2023, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 06, 2023, 08:39:33 PMCarmine Appice let the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago. I can't believe they dumped Mick for the personality and riff-vacuum that is John 5.

No interest in the has-been crue but still John 5 has been a dirty word since the late 90s
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Giggles on April 06, 2023, 09:48:55 PM
I don't listen to Crue or Manson or Rob Zombie, but I find a lot of John 5's solo stuff to be quite enjoyable.

https://youtu.be/ZhxlUwM0zXA
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Pagan Saviour on April 07, 2023, 02:30:37 PM
https://blabbermouth.net/news/mick-mars-on-his-motley-crue-bandmates-i-carried-these-bastards-for-years
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Bürggermeister on April 07, 2023, 04:46:23 PM
Best headline in a long time  :laugh:

Time for Mick and Corabi to get something going
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Mooncat on April 08, 2023, 09:52:31 PM
Think John 5 is a terrible guitarist. Plus he tries to play up this badass, kind of evil image, when even a cursory YouTube search reveals he the most bland human being on the planet.

Loved Mick's raw playing. Not much skill, but I don't entirely disagree with his carrying Motley Crue sentiment, in terms of their sound at least.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Bürggermeister on April 19, 2023, 11:29:53 PM
QuoteL.A. GUNS frontman Phil Lewis weighed in on Mick Mars's recent lawsuit against MÖTLEY CRÜE in which the 71-year-old musician claimed that he was the only bandmember to play 100 percent live on CRÜE's 2022 tour, alleging that bassist Nikki Sixx "did not play a single note on bass during the entire U.S. tour." Phil said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "It's incorrigible, isn't it? It really is. It's such a swindle. But it's probably a lot better. I mean, they'd probably sound like utter shit if they were live, with the big stadium and the big lights and Vince [Neil] singing in the way that we've come to know and love.

"They really are a fucking atrocious band; they always have been," Phil continued. "And the only good player, the only good one in the band, has been very unceremoniously dismissed.

"I never liked them. I never did. I never bought one of their records. I loathed 'Girls, Girls, Girls'; I hated all of it. Occasionally I caught the attention of Nikki, and he doesn't like me. I'm a sad little pumpkin as to what he thinks about me. I just find him to be a big fraud.

"It's a punishment of luxury — somebody that became a millionaire at such an early age that they never really developed social skills," Lewis added. "It's like taking a bird out of a nest when it's not ready to fly; it won't develop. And I don't think, really, that any of them... The three of them aren't very well socially developed. They're not very good. And Mick's a different category entirely because he was so much older before success.

"Success can be a punishment quite often. And in their case it must just be so painful right now having been idolized for so long and now to called out as frauds, essentially as instrument-holding MILLI VANILLI, as a disgrace. They've gotta be hurting real bad."

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 19, 2023, 11:33:00 PM
Ahahaha! The drama!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Bürggermeister on April 20, 2023, 10:11:42 AM
You know you've reached a low ebb when a cunt from LA Guns thinks they can have a go at you.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Mooncat on April 20, 2023, 04:35:04 PM
I would 100% believe that about Nikki Sixx not playing a single note, he's always been a massive fraud and bullshitter. Kind of Gene Simmons-lite. But hey, these guys' priority is the money and they know how to make it.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Eoin McLove on April 21, 2023, 12:53:39 AM
Quote from: Mooncat on April 20, 2023, 04:35:04 PMBut hey, these guys' priority is the money and they know how to make it.

Hey, hey- that's unfair! They are also motivated by pussy and drugs.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Carnage on April 21, 2023, 12:56:57 AM
Having read The Dirt (which I doubt any of the band have - or can) I can confirm that to be the case. They're all idiots, and arsholes with it.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Bürggermeister on May 23, 2023, 10:35:58 PM
Vince doesn't sing a single fucking word of English  :laugh:

This is fucking terrible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rrUux3r_k
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: KingHostile on May 24, 2023, 09:32:31 AM
Thats one of the most entertaining videos I've ever seen. I keep angling my head to see the backing dancers!!!

By jesus these lads are cat! wheres that other video where the singer is not singing at all hopping on about burgers etc  :abbath:

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Pagan Saviour on May 24, 2023, 09:51:15 AM
Woeful. Auto tune is super clear at least
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Necro Red on May 24, 2023, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: Mooncat on April 20, 2023, 04:35:04 PMI would 100% believe that about Nikki Sixx not playing a single note, he's always been a massive fraud and bullshitter. Kind of Gene Simmons-lite. But hey, these guys' priority is the money and they know how to make it.
they would all be multi millionaires at this stage anyway, I think they just don't give a fuck
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: jobrok1 on May 24, 2023, 11:20:03 AM
What a shame... I was such a fanboy back in my early teens.
They were literally the coolest band on the planet for me at the time and could do no wrong.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 24, 2023, 11:36:52 AM
One or two catchy songs but they are/ were generally crap, I reckon. Give me WASP!
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Carnage on May 24, 2023, 12:27:25 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 24, 2023, 11:36:52 AMOne or two catchy songs but they are/ were generally crap, I reckon. Give me WASP!

This. I'll give them this: Dr. Feelgood is a fantastic sounding album, you can hear why Metallica went for Bob Rock when they were going for a commercial sound.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Anvil on May 24, 2023, 12:39:04 PM
Dr Feelgood was one of the first albums I had a copy of.  Still remember going to a friends house with a blank cassette to get a copy... Still love that album but I don't think you could pay me to go and watch them live though.     
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: nukeabuse on May 24, 2023, 11:54:33 PM
https://youtu.be/fL6uYfOBx4E

Vince Neil sounds like Bob Dylan

This vid from a few years ago, can't imagine things have improved since.
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Mooncat on May 24, 2023, 11:56:22 PM
Quote from: Necro Red on May 24, 2023, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: Mooncat on April 20, 2023, 04:35:04 PMI would 100% believe that about Nikki Sixx not playing a single note, he's always been a massive fraud and bullshitter. Kind of Gene Simmons-lite. But hey, these guys' priority is the money and they know how to make it.
they would all be multi millionaires at this stage anyway, I think they just don't give a fuck

Not sure I buy into this line of thinking. People who are obsessed with money tend to never reach a point where they think it's enough.

Edit: Though I do agree with the not giving a fuck part also...
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Necro Red on May 27, 2023, 10:17:38 AM
Rich assholes  :laugh:
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: The Heretic on May 27, 2023, 11:50:17 AM
If Vince was a plumber he'd be handing you a spanner every second minute to participate..
Title: Re: Motley Crue V Mick Mars
Post by: Bürggermeister on August 13, 2023, 10:01:54 PM
Interesting stuff from Corabi regarding Mick not playing on the last few albums... which I have never heard  :laugh: I heard one song off Geration Swine and knew I never needed to hear anything from them ever again. Mick doesn't play in the studio, Sixx doesn't play live. Vince can't be arsed saying real words. Cunts still get paid  :laugh:

"None of this stuff, all the shit that's going on between Mick and them, none of it surprises me. It doesn't. And John's got big shoes to fill, and he's kind of stuck in this. And trust me, I get it, 'cause I was stuck in this shitty place as well between MÖTLEY CRÜE and whoever was being replaced's fans. You know what I mean? I had to deal with the fans that were massive Vince Neil fans, and I get it. And it was awkward at times to sit and listen to the guys do interviews where they went out of their way to slag Vince. I didn't even know the guy, so I had nothing shitty to say about him. But it is what it is, man."

"I don't envy John 5 at all at this point, you know what I mean? He's kind of in a weird position, 'cause I know he adores Mick, and he's friends with all the MÖTLEY guys, so he's kind of in a weird position. They offered him a great gig, and he's doing it. So trust me, I can relate."

"I know John 5. I think he's a brilliant guitar player. I am not taking [anything] away from John, because I love the guy to death. He is a guitarist's guitarist. But I can't help but think, when we were doing the 'Generation Swine' record, there was a rub between me and Mick, which transpired during... They had already told me that they were bringing Vince back, and their manager said to me, 'Can you help them finish the record?' And I said, 'Yes.' And every day they would call me at nine or ten o'clock in the morning, and it was Nikki, this guy Scott Humphrey and Tommy — [they] were producing the record — and they would call me every day, and they would go, 'Hey, can you come by the studio and play some guitar?' And I said, 'Well, as long as Mick is cool with it, sure.' Well, every day I'd get to the studio and they just complained, like, 'Oh my God. We had Mick here yesterday till two o'clock in the morning. We couldn't get anything out of him,' and blah blah blah. So, that was '95. And then they did the record. Now, I can tell you right now most of the rhythms on that record were mine. And if Mick was sitting here, he'd go, 'Yeah, most of the guitars were his.' So I played on the 'Generation Swine' record. I don't know if Mick played on 'New Tattoo' — I'm not sure — but I know it was DJ Ashba on 'Red, White & Crüe', on the new songs, and I know on 'Saints Of Los Angeles', it was DJ Ashba. And then I know on the movie 'The Dirt', the new songs that they did, 'Like A Virgin' and all that shit, it's John 5. So they haven't had Mick... they haven't been using him since — fuck — '95.

"Again, I'm just looking at things the way I look at 'em and I can't help but think that they just went for the upgrade — in their minds. You do have a history there; the fans are used to that history.

"And you know what? Folks, if I am wrong, I'll come back again with you and I will say, 'I apologize. I'm wrong.' But until I hear it from Mick, I don't buy any of it."