I love Spotify, it's great to play some music or a podcast in the car or out cutting the lawn. I've come across some great new music and some that I may have missed through it. However I feel that owning a record or CD gets me more invested into a record rather than dipping in and out and perhaps streaming music is a bit shit? Thoughts
On the one hand, I'd like to agree, because it's what feels like it's true. But in reality, I have many vinyl I almost never listen to and plenty of albums I only ever stream, and endlessly (cos don't own a physical copy). But then, when I stream, it's only ever full albums, and I think that's because I grew up on physical releases. It'd be interesting to hear from younger folk who have the opposite experience; grew up on mp3s and/or streaming and then got into buying vinyl or CDs later.
Yes I prefer owning a physical copy but a huge amount of the albums I listen to nowadays are either on Youtube or Spotify, even with the excruciating ad breaks. Only yesterday I came across a copy of Firepower I'd purchased last summer in Hamburg. The packaging wasn't even opened, yet I know the album off by heart. Still can't shake the feeling that I'm supporting the artists by having the genuine article. Eight to nine hundred CDs at this juncture from Ablaze my Sorrow to Zyklon and everything you can imagine in between.
Quote from: vinterland on April 06, 2023, 01:30:32 PMYes I prefer owning a physical copy but a huge amount of the albums I listen to nowadays are either on Youtube or Spotify, even with the excruciaating ad breaks. Only yesterday I came across a copy of Firepower I'd purchased last summer in Hamburg. The packaging wasn't even opened, yet I know the album off by heart. Still can't shake the feeling that I'm supporting the artists by having the genuine article. Eight to nine hundred CDs at this juncture from Ablaze my Sorrow to Zyklon and everything you can imagine in between.
Celine Dion?
I buy physically when I can, CDs only. I'd buy digitally if that's all that's available but there's a lack of that dopamine hit you get ftom picking up the actual album.
Most of my listening is done either through the computer or the phone, which I can connect to my old stereo and use it in the car too. Regardless of source, I tend to listen to the whole album, that's the way I've always done it. In the old days, that meant carefully selecting a tape or two before heading out with the walkman and committing to that music for as long as I was out. I still tend to commit to whatever I put on, whether at home or out and about. Old habits die hard.
The declining availability of CDs combined with mental and still escalating postal charges have pushed me towards non-physical digital music. I've ripped everything I've owned over the last 40-odd years on a large hard drive and have the best of it on my phone. I'm still drawn to new music and still buy the music I like, though, lossless from either from Bandcamp or Qobuz, usually after having a quick listen first. I don't see a difference between playing something from a physical or digital source.
I buy the music I like, largely because it's how I grew up but, also, I think if it's not worth my money then it's not worth my time either. I could listen to something good which moved me enough to spend money money on it instead. I don't use Spotify largely because it's shit to the musicians who made the music while being kind to their shareholders but, also, I've been buying music since the early 80's and don't need some streaming service to find something to listen to.
I buy shit if I like it. I'll listen to CDs, vinyl and tapes but I listen to a lot of stuff on youtube too. But if I like it, I buy it physical.
I prefer physical as well. I was never into tapes and the last CD I bought was Down III in 2007. I own close to 2000 vinyl but the constant price hikes from most labels these days along with postage and the severe drop in quality of records over the last few years is making buying physical copies very difficult and I think very soon I will only be buying a handful of releases each year.
I have no interest in streaming and think it is a bad idea relying on an internet connection to listen to music plus a good 20% of what I own isn't even on Spotify. I either download the bandcamp edition if it comes free with the physical copy or just download illegally and have it all on my phone so I can listen whenever and where ever I want. Plus it's not as if artists especially underground ones are making any money from Spotify either.
I buy much less than I did a couple of years ago. Just getting older and having other responsibilities mixed with being fucking bored to death by most new stuff (my own fault).
I've probably bought more in the last 3 or 4 years than I'd bought in the previous 20. Partly due to the midlife crisis thing we were on about in another thread but the lockdowns definitely were a factor. Spare cash with fewer spending opportunities, boredom, etc. definitely had me buying piles of CDs.
I also found myself spending more on rare or out of print stuff that I previously woudln't have been able to justify forking out on, I'd bet I wasn't the only one in that boat.
Physical all day for me. Have most of the albums I want (classic band discographies etc), though I often seem to search out obscure, never reissued albums and end up getting depressed as I refuse to pay over the odds and never get what I want. Another thing is some (older) albums being only available in the States or Canada, again - not paying exhorbitant postage. Frustrating- you used to be able to go into places like Freebird and get this stuff second hand for next to nothing.
Quoteconstant price hikes from most labels
Yeah they're getting stuck into us now, it's become a seriously expensive interest. I find it hard to shop local as well I can't justify 50-65 for two pieces of vinyl from any of our local record stores.
That and I've been stung for customs three or four times this year already. I find more and more I'm going through Amazon
Apart from Bandcamp everything I listen to is physical copy. That said I have all my CDs ripped to my phone and they get listened to much more that way.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 06, 2023, 12:39:06 PMOn the one hand, I'd like to agree, because it's what feels like it's true. But in reality, I have many vinyl I almost never listen to and plenty of albums I only ever stream, and endlessly (cos don't own a physical copy). But then, when I stream, it's only ever full albums, and I think that's because I grew up on physical releases. It'd be interesting to hear from younger folk who have the opposite experience; grew up on mp3s and/or streaming and then got into buying vinyl or CDs later.
Yeah I'm in the "old fart" category here too. Doesn't matter the medium, I listen to albums the whole way through (aside from when I'm deliberately using a playlist).
I quite like Spotify's "play something similar" feature when an album finishes. I've found a few cool bands that way, and it reminds me of when someone would tape an album for you and they'd stick a few extra songs on the end to fill the cassette's runtime.
That said, I still like having a meaty physical and meatier digital collection, but any opportunity that presents me with music I want to hear has its place.
Ah I just mix and match. I like the physical but the streaming is great for trying stuff to see if it's worth a physical copy.
This new vinyl Walkman thing looks interesting all the same..
Last cd I bought was 20 years ago. If I like a band I'll go to a gig or get a tee shirt. I do stream on bandcamp or you tube. Spotify can go fuck itself.
Hey it's whatever works at this stage. It's not like we don't have options
Part of being a metal head was discovering and buying physical albums.I got an incredible buzz buying albums from a very young age.But 7/8 years ago i stopped,i had about 2000 cds,i sold/gave away the whole lot.Mainly because of a growing family,and id simply just got used to Spotify,pure lazyness.
I never collected records,went from cassettes to cds,but sometimes i think i missed out on something by not collecting vinyl years back.You just can't beat Dan Seagrave art on a big record sleve!
I was a kid around limewire and illegal downloading but when I got into music I was one of the few who bought and collected cds even when they started going out of fashion.
They were my main method of listening to music til about 2016/2017, using YouTube and the Internet for discovering new stuff.
In 2018 i got gifted one of those cheap portable vinyl players, which I still use and have a small collection of vinyl.
Im planning on upgrading to a proper turntable/speaker system in the summer so after that will focus on building my vinyl collection.
I've never paid for Spotify but my other half uses it so it can be handy on the rare occasion.
Any medium is fair game. I use Spotify, bandcamp and YouTube as well as buying records. Don't really buy tapes or cds anymore.
Having access to so much music on Spotify is a resource I'd never want to live without. Don't particularly care about their model or practices.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 06, 2023, 01:40:18 PMQuote from: vinterland on April 06, 2023, 01:30:32 PMYes I prefer owning a physical copy but a huge amount of the albums I listen to nowadays are either on Youtube or Spotify, even with the excruciaating ad breaks. Only yesterday I came across a copy of Firepower I'd purchased last summer in Hamburg. The packaging wasn't even opened, yet I know the album off by heart. Still can't shake the feeling that I'm supporting the artists by having the genuine article. Eight to nine hundred CDs at this juncture from Ablaze my Sorrow to Zyklon and everything you can imagine in between.
Celine Dion?
Worse. Bon Jovi.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 06, 2023, 01:40:18 PMQuote from: vinterland on April 06, 2023, 01:30:32 PMYes I prefer owning a physical copy but a huge amount of the albums I listen to nowadays are either on Youtube or Spotify, even with the excruciating ad breaks. Only yesterday I came across a copy of Firepower I'd purchased last summer in Hamburg. The packaging wasn't even opened, yet I know the album off by heart. Still can't shake the feeling that I'm supporting the artists by having the genuine article. Eight to nine hundred CDs at this juncture from Ablaze my Sorrow to Zyklon and everything you can imagine in between.
Celine Dion?
Quote from: vinterland on April 07, 2023, 12:06:26 AMQuote from: Eoin McLove on April 06, 2023, 01:40:18 PMQuote from: vinterland on April 06, 2023, 01:30:32 PMYes I prefer owning a physical copy but a huge amount of the albums I listen to nowadays are either on Youtube or Spotify, even with the excruciating ad breaks. Only yesterday I came across a copy of Firepower I'd purchased last summer in Hamburg. The packaging wasn't even opened, yet I know the album off by heart. Still can't shake the feeling that I'm supporting the artists by having the genuine article. Eight to nine hundred CDs at this juncture from Ablaze my Sorrow to Zyklon and everything you can imagine in between.
Celine Dion?
Worse. Bon Jovi.
:-[
Quote from: Ducky on April 06, 2023, 04:15:55 PMQuote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on April 06, 2023, 12:39:06 PMOn the one hand, I'd like to agree, because it's what feels like it's true. But in reality, I have many vinyl I almost never listen to and plenty of albums I only ever stream, and endlessly (cos don't own a physical copy). But then, when I stream, it's only ever full albums, and I think that's because I grew up on physical releases. It'd be interesting to hear from younger folk who have the opposite experience; grew up on mp3s and/or streaming and then got into buying vinyl or CDs later.
Yeah I'm in the "old fart" category here too. Doesn't matter the medium, I listen to albums the whole way through (aside from when I'm deliberately using a playlist).
I quite like Spotify's "play something similar" feature when an album finishes. I've found a few cool bands that way, and it reminds me of when someone would tape an album for you and they'd stick a few extra songs on the end to fill the cassette's runtime.
That said, I still like having a meaty physical and meatier digital collection, but any opportunity that presents me with music I want to hear has its place.
That's exactly how I discovered Deceased's Luck of the Corpse. Friend threw on the first two tracks of their debut as there was enough room left over after he recorded The Bleeding onto one side of a TDK.
Quote from: vinterland on April 07, 2023, 12:04:30 AMWorse. Bon Jovi.
Nothing wrong with Slippery When Wet or New Jersey. Most of them, anyway. The rest's a pile of shite alright.
Quote from: Carnage on April 07, 2023, 12:26:10 AMQuote from: vinterland on April 07, 2023, 12:04:30 AMWorse. Bon Jovi.
Nothing wrong with Slippery When Wet or New Jersey. Most of them, anyway. The rest's a pile of shite alright.
Suffice to say the two releases would be post millennial material. Come to think of it a spring clean is long overdue.
Cd's....never stopped...have tonnes of vinyl, scaled back last 8 years or so vinyl because its turned into an absolute farce....amazon prime most cd's are for the price of a pint in dublin/cork city centre..its great
CDs all the way, never got into vinyl which is probably a good thing the way prices are going now. I'll check stuff out on youtube or bandcamp, and if I like it I'll grab a cd
Physical all the way. I buy everything on CD. Have a stereo in the living room. Rip everything to the laptop for transfer to the DAP for commuting etc. I like Spotify for playlists for the car....and more importantly, helping the young one discover music. Even though she has a heap of vinyl, her main listening is Spotify from her phone through wireless headphones.
Spent years and thousands on a record collection but I got rid of almost all of them when I left Ireland. I have accumulated a few LPs since, but Spotify is a great resource, regardless of the disdain I used to hold it in (the wife's account as an additional user). I have YouTube premium and the Music extra is also fantastic.
I mostly listen the same way I grew up doing, iPod, the digital collection built up and transferred through many hard drives over the years. Lately the digital files are even all above board and paid for (growing up and getting a job has its benefits), think it's probably the most direct-to-pocket method for bands via the likes of Bandcamp also.
But if I'm at home I'll throw on either a vinyl record or stream from the computer, both hooked up through my studio monitors. Does the job very nicely.
Have a fair few CDs but they mostly just get ripped for use on the iPod.
I'm trying to keep the vinyl record collection to a reasonable size, but they're just so enjoyable. Often on a summer evening I'll take the turntable and speakers etc out the back garden and have a little session, beer, smoke, whatever you're having yourself, and it's great cos everyone just has to listen and there's no fucking about. Hoping someday when I have the space to have a hifi system with massive fuck-off speakers.
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on April 07, 2023, 10:30:34 PMI mostly listen the same way I grew up doing, iPod, the digital collection built up and transferred through many hard drives over the years. Lately the digital files are even all above board and paid for (growing up and getting a job has its benefits), think it's probably the most direct-to-pocket method for bands via the likes of Bandcamp also.
But if I'm at home I'll throw on either a vinyl record or stream from the computer, both hooked up through my studio monitors. Does the job very nicely.
Have a fair few CDs but they mostly just get ripped for use on the iPod.
I'm trying to keep the vinyl record collection to a reasonable size, but they're just so enjoyable. Often on a summer evening I'll take the turntable and speakers etc out the back garden and have a little session, beer, smoke, whatever you're having yourself, and it's great cos everyone just has to listen and there's no fucking about. Hoping someday when I have the space to have a hifi system with massive fuck-off speakers.
Ugh, you smoke?
Fucking philistine
Rarely, but the guests have to feel at home :abbath:
I find I never know song titles anymore. I used to have first listen to an album while lying back and reading through the booklet, reading along with the lyrics, enjoying the album art etc. With Spotify I don't have my phone out following the song titles so I just tend to never know them anymore, unless it's really obvious from the chorus in the song.
Moving to Canada I was grateful to not have a huge music collection to lug around, it felt freeing to leave that behind, but the overall experience is less magic with just streaming. On the flipside I'm discovering new music a lot faster, but finding that I spend a shorter window with albums that I love. Used to be a newfound beloved album could get played for months on end, now it's usually a few weeks and I've moved on to something else.
I do have huge ethical concerns with Spotify being that they are massive cunts, and absolutely fleecing artists. But clearly not enough to deactivate my account...yet. Which for the meantime makes me a bit of a cunt too I suppose.
Grew up listening to music during the last high point for physical media in the 2000s, and as such I still have a large CD collection. I culled it a fair bit over the last ten years or so (when CDs started getting cheaper I was almost buying them for the sake of it at times, had a lot of stuff I just felt 'meh' about) but even so I still have over a thousand of them. Certain bands I'm completist about as well (Sabbath, Reverend Bizarre, Cathedral, Maiden) and I will usually own pretty much every release by them.
Being on an iMac on 56k in the 00s meant that I never got into downloading/torrenting much until I finally got broadband and enough storage space for FLACs. I usually download live bootlegs but I will also purchase digital releases if I can't be bothered to look around the shops or if they've sold out on the physical format. However there's still a certain lack of something with buying FLACs as opposed to purchasing physical product.
I got into vinyl in the 00s as well as it was relatively cheap then and prices hadn't gotten silly. Culled my LP collection down a bit since as I just wasn't playing them much but still got about 250 or so. Some records I have you can't easily find on CD or digital so it's the only option. I love the artwork and the tactile factor of an LP - dug out my deck and records a couple of years ago and really enjoyed how much more in depth interaction one has with the music and the experience as a whole - but then they gathered dust again. I tend to limit my purchases now to nice stuff like first pressings, or LP issues of albums I really really like.
Thing is, most of the time I just end up sitting at my laptop playing stuff off Youtube (I run an adblocker). Mostly live stuff but you can pretty much find anything on there, so it's the easiest option to do. I kind of like the whole casualness of streaming stuff this way. Don't own a Spotify account though because they pay artists jack shit. I know that streaming off Youtube doesn't pay the artist either but most of the time if I'm playing something and like it I'll go and buy the CD or digital download as well.
Also have some cassettes as back up in storage but the audio quality of the medium isn't that brilliant. Been thinking about ripping my CD collection to FLAC and putting it on an external HD storage that I can plug into my laptop and play through my stereo but I got to about E in the list of bands and gave up, just takes a lot of time. Still use MP3 player rather than phone as portable music player though. Useful to have around.