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Title: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on January 02, 2023, 11:08:26 AM
Ordered these when the link went up some months back but they've been delayed yet again.

Anyone else picking them up? I remember getting Obscura and been blown away by the technicality of it in comparison to the earlier records. From Wisdom to Hate I remember being a poorer album, really dense sounding and the songs not as fully formed as Obscura, I never really listened to it since so am looking forward to reevaluating it whenever it lands   
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: open face surgery on January 03, 2023, 01:56:28 PM
Obscura is a masterpiece. FWTH is great but wasn't as groundbreaking so didn't get as much love from me. Will pick up both anyway.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: mickO))) on January 03, 2023, 03:07:28 PM
I want Obscura and Wisdom on vinyl as they are the only physical releases I am missing but I have learned my lesson with pre-orders as I have been fucked about with them in just about every way imaginable.

Pressing times at plants is suppose to have dropped a bit over the last 2-3 months so no idea why these are still delayed. As if they aren't out this month or Feb at the latest then you have record store day coming up in April which means early to mid summer at the earliest after that.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Paul keohane on January 03, 2023, 11:10:35 PM
Obscura is unlistenable to these ears,I remember one of the lads (Snare on here)picking it up in Tower records at the time.His review of the album put me off it until I listened to it s few years later.I never bothered with FWTH afterwards either.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Carnage on January 03, 2023, 11:33:57 PM
I'd only be a fan of the first two TBH, more a fan of straightforward DM than technical, widdly, experimental stuff (or 'brutal' DM for that matter).
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Paul keohane on January 04, 2023, 01:01:16 AM
Quote from: Carnage on January 03, 2023, 11:33:57 PMI'd only be a fan of the first two TBH, more a fan of straightforward DM than technical, widdly, experimental stuff (or 'brutal' DM for that matter).
Id be the same,dip my toe in the other two styles from time to time.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Don Gately on January 04, 2023, 02:17:44 PM
I find Obscura difficult also. Thought it was just me.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: open face surgery on January 04, 2023, 04:43:21 PM
Some amazing live videos from that period that were posted by Steve H. All songs sound amazing but Obscura tracks are unreal.

https://youtu.be/PneRbPrCsZE
https://youtu.be/rek7rZ2eYJ4
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: mickO))) on January 04, 2023, 05:01:26 PM
The material after the first two albums is similar to later DSO or Meshuggah you need to listen to it a lot before it will click.

Got to see them live in 2016 in a place about the size of the old Pint and they were brilliant.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Shitstirrer on January 04, 2023, 08:11:08 PM
From wisdom to hate is a great album just the right balance of brutality and strangeness .

Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Pagan Saviour on July 16, 2025, 07:33:51 AM
New album on the way next year. Just going over the first two here, picked up this nifty re-release

https://www.cherryred.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=gorguts

Christ their back catalogue is excellent - the leap in technicality from Considered to Erosion is something else. Never seen them live - hopefully they do a tour over this way.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: mickO))) on July 24, 2025, 01:00:23 PM
Gorguts just announced a North American tour in November with the DTA tribute who will be doing a Symbolic and Spiritual Healing anniversary set. I will get to at least one date maybe even two. Can't wait.

Off topic but I am surprised DTA never came back to Dublin the two shows they did here were great and both were packed.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Ducky on July 24, 2025, 04:49:23 PM
Amazing news. Had Coloured Sands on repeat last week - has it really been 12 years since it released? Sheesh.
Title: Re: Gorguts - From Wisdom to Hate & Obscura Reissues
Post by: Paul keohane on July 24, 2025, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on July 24, 2025, 01:00:23 PMGorguts just announced a North American tour in November with the DTA tribute who will be doing a Symbolic and Spiritual Healing anniversary set. I will get to at least one date maybe even two. Can't wait.

Off topic but I am surprised DTA never came back to Dublin the two shows they did here were great and both were packed.
They were unreal, serious nostalgia buzz!