Paradise Lost made this cryptic post yesterday, announcement to follow
https://www.facebook.com/officialhostuk
Guessing they're looking to continue that style outside of the PL banner???
I actually loved Host so wouldn't mind hearing more stuff along those lines.
The last few Paradise Lost albums have been beyond dull.
I'm with you on Host, it's a fantastic album. Still enjoy Symbol of Life too though some of that album hasn't aged quite as well.
Yeah I really enjoyed Symbol Of Life as well. There's an excellent cover of Xavier by Dead Can Dance as a bonus track on the version I have.
They played Cork on the Host tour,absolute scutter of a gig!
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 11, 2022, 11:29:46 AMThey played Cork on the Host tour,absolute scutter of a gig!
It was very disappointing alright.
That tour was before the actual release as well, or am I totally off.
Regardless! That gig was my first introduction to the songs and it was such a let down.
I absolutely loved 'One Second' back then. Still think it's very underrated. But 'Host' totally missed the mark.
It's still sitting in the stacks at home, but hasn't been played since the year of it's release.
I think Host is an excellent record if you're into that type of thing. Musically it's not that different in some ways if you can get over some of the textures/effect choices. I will agree it was probably a step too far for most of their fanbase, but I'd take Host over any of their recent output which has been fairly workmanlike.
If it is what they're doing I think it's a good idea to honor that stuff outside the scope of PL.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 12, 2022, 08:51:33 AMI think Host is an excellent record if you're into that type of thing. I'd take Host over any of their recent output which has been fairly workmanlike.
100%
Great album and if it's miserable PL you're after, this is certainly up there.
I stuck "Host" on last night after seeing the post above. It sounded OK to me despite having an aversion to Depeche Mode and any form of Depeche Modery in general. I was at the Dublin leg of that tour and it was my first time seeing PL live. I had no interest in what they were doing at that point but was hoping to hear some classics. I remember standing patiently (soberly) down the back and finally, the very last song was "As I Die". That was all I got :laugh:
I have no interest in Host or any of the muck they were peddling in the 00's. The Plague Within, Medusa and Obsidian all sit very well with me.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on October 12, 2022, 09:45:30 AMI stuck "Host" on last night after seeing the post above. It sounded OK to me despite having an aversion to Depeche Mode and any form of Depeche Modery in general. I was at the Dublin leg of that tour and it was my first time seeing PL live. I had no interest in what they were doing at that point but was hoping to hear some classics. I remember standing patiently (soberly) down the back and finally, the very last song was "As I Die". That was all I got :laugh:
I was right at the front and you could tell they, well Nick anyway, didn't even want to play that.
Ah yeah that gig was indeed crap, again why I think this might work. It's a polarizing album for sure.
That period of output was mixed. When it was good it was really good but when it was bad it was utter shit.
I remember being at the Cork gig and one of his first statements to the crowd was something along the lines of " we are playing all this stuff so tough shit of you don't like it".
That's not word for word but that's the gist of it.
G. Mackintosh broke his arm after getting hammered in Fredz post show apparently.
Yeah, Believe in Nothing is dreadful. They remixed it there a couple of years back and I picked it up but there's no saving it.
Quote from: Circlepit on October 12, 2022, 11:56:52 AMThat period of output was mixed. When it was good it was really good but when it was bad it was utter shit.
I remember being at the Cork gig and one of his first statements to the crowd was something along the lines of " we are playing all this stuff so tough shit of you don't like it".
That's not word for word but that's the gist of it.
G. Mackintosh broke his arm after getting hammered in Fredz post show apparently.
yeah remember it,what a way to piss of a crowd baying for a few classic tracks!.
I like PL but they are all over the place when it comes to consistency. Handful of decent songs on most albums and that's it. Never really "hit it out of the park". From 'One Second' up to their 2005 self titled there's probably one good album of songs in there. Stuck to the formula from 'In Requiem' onwards.
Host is terrible. I have to disagree with you that they never "hit it out of the park" They most certainly did in the early to mid nineties.
They have released some good albums since then, particularly in recent years, but nothing I would consider a classic.
As far as I know, this is not a planned PL release - this will more than likely be Nick & Greg's lockdown project. I guess its in the vibe of Host though, but who knows.
But yes - that Host gig in Nancy's was a stinker. As for the album Host - its grand, i never really go back to it, but its certainly not as bad as I thought it was when it came out. There's a few really great tunes on it. But its better than Believe in Nothing for sure (their low point for sure). World Pretending is a great track though.
I must be the only one here who enjoyed that Nancy's gig. Mind you, I was absolutely buckled. I think it was because there was a fair bit played off One Second, which was a much stronger album IMO. Host was just One Second-lite.
Track has gone up, could've been pulled from Host without being as good or having the genuine vibe of that record. Sounds too contrived.
Wasnt too gone on host or that track they released but one second is a great album if you like Depeche Mode.
I think that track is better than anything Paradise Lost released in the last few years lol
Quote from: blessed1 on October 22, 2022, 11:38:57 AMI think that track is better than anything Paradise Lost released in the last few years lol
Was thinking the same I think it's a cool tune
I think they've a decent standard but everything they do these days is contrived, including all the side projects, the last few PL albums get played five times then sit on the shelf.
Having given this track a few spins all it's done is made me go back to Host which is far superior, Nick was in a bad place back then, and that's where they were musically, all the elements aligned for that one. This sounds like Nuclear Blast asked them could they knock something together along those lines over the lockdowns.
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on October 23, 2022, 05:39:45 PMI think they've a decent standard but everything they do these days is contrived, including all the side projects, the last few PL albums get played five times then sit on the shelf.
Having given this track a few spins all it's done is made me go back to Host which is far superior, Nick was in a bad place back then, and that's where they were musically, all the elements aligned for that one. This sounds like Nuclear Blast asked them could they knock something together along those lines over the lockdowns.
I absolutely loved host when it came out but now I think it's a hape of shit whenever I revisit it. This'll likely turn out the same but fuck is it better than pl for the last I dunno how many albums. Contrived is the word indeed I agree with you there. It's like the going back to the oul metal didn't do the trick so they're going back to the other thing in a roundabout way. Having only heard it twice though it seems like a cool tune and I hope the album is decent
I deeply love Paradise Lost but in general, bar a particular handful of albums, any time I revisit others I go "ah fuck no not that one too, how did I ever enjoy this". So sure look since we all love a list let's get to it.
1. Draconian Times
2. Gothic
3. Live at the BBC
4. Icon
5. Shades of God
6. Host
7. One Second
8. all of the rest of them I don't think I have it in me
Gimme a few and I'll edit in my list. Where's mclove for the lists
Quote from: ochoill on October 23, 2022, 10:13:25 PMI deeply love Paradise Lost but in general, bar a particular handful of albums, any time I revisit others I go "ah fuck no not that one too, how did I ever enjoy this". So sure look since we all love a list let's get to it.
1. Draconian Times
2. Gothic
3. Live at the BBC
4. Icon
5. Shades of God
6. Host
7. One Second
8. all of the rest of them I don't think I have it in me
I liked the last three quite a lot. Had absolutely no time for anything between One Second and A Plague Within
I'm allergic to lists. Shades of God, Gothic and Lost Paradise are what I would reach for. Icon and Draconian Times are alright but a bit middling to my ear. Don't know the rest bar the odd tune.
Quote from: hellfire on October 23, 2022, 11:32:45 PMI liked the last three quite a lot. Had absolutely no time for anything between One Second and A Plague Within
Kinda the same here. Really like the last few albums.
I do like some of the stuff they did between OS and APW. But as far as the full albums go... not great at all.
Shades of God is where it's at with these lads. Fucking great album. I do have a bit of a soft spot for some of the stuff like believe in nothing even though I know it's shit. Self titled is bad as well but I like a tune or 2 off it. Fuck it, a list so..
Shades of God
Draconian times
Icon
Gothic
The rest. Can't stand any of the return to growling albums
Give Obsidian a blast. Death metal it ain't.
I haven't listened to that one at all as I'd become disillusioned but maybe it's worth the run through at least if it's not the DM revival stuff
Obsidian is no better no worse than anything since 2005s self titled.
Decent track or two with the rest being completely forgettable. If you've missed a few albums it might sound ok but for everyone else more of the same