https://blabbermouth.net/news/neurosiss-scott-kelly-admits-to-abusing-wife-and-children-announces-retirement-from-music
Not your typical retirement. He was speaking in recent years about his mental health and going off his meds. He seems to have been unable to resolve his issues and now he's binned the music career.
I hope his family is getting out of there - doesn't sound this will end well tbh.
Yeah shitty news. Always sucks whenever a musician you like turns out to be scum.
Scott Kelly retires...but Vim Fuego returns! Swings and roundabouts innit.
Jaysus that really is a shit buzz. I did read a while back of his mental health just not expecting it to be to this extent. Truly awful. A band I've grown up with and still in my top ten live bands.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 28, 2022, 11:22:46 AMScott Kelly retires...but Vim Fuego returns! Swings and roundabouts innit.
I was surprised to not see a post about it so I broke my lurking habits.
Obviously feel sorry for his wife and kids and all they've had to suffer through. Kelly is clearly profoundly disturbed, mentally ill, I'll just say it's refreshing (even if it is coming too late) to read a full on confession of this kind. If ever there is to be recovery for him, this is the infamous first step so many others fail to make.
I don't know any more about it that anyone else but does the mental illness angle not kind of cancel out the apology. I'm mentally ill, I went off my meds and then treated my family like shite... for seven years! I don't know. Maybe he's just a cunt, you know? Sure I'm only speculating, of course, but he gets his piece of the victim pie in his apology which seems a bit besides the point to me.
I read through it pretty fast to be fair. If he played the victim, I missed it. Simply stating you have mental health issues and that your lies fell to pieces in front of healthcare professionals isn't by itself playing the victim card, but yeah, maybe I missed something. Either way, hope his family recover.
Well I'm just speculating a bit as I said. I agree with you, I hope his family get whatever help they might need, and him too if necessary.
Coming out and saying "I've been an utter cunt" is rare, even in the age of fashionably overcoming mental health issues. Hopefully, he can follow it up and make it up to his family.
Strong statement from the rest of the band today about him today, and a not so subtle address to some of the public responses. Tangible anger.
Fuck Scott Kelly.
The statement in full:
QuoteWe cannot overstate the level of disgust and disappointment we feel for a man who we once called Brother.
As a band, we parted ways with Scott Kelly at the end of 2019 after learning about severe acts of abuse he committed towards his family over the previous years. In the past, Scott had disclosed his marital difficulties and acts of verbal abuse, as well as his intention to get help and change his behaviors. The information we learned in 2019 made it clear Scott had crossed a line and there was no way back. We did not share this information out of respect for his wife's direct request for privacy, and to honor the family's wish not to let their experience become gossip in a music magazine. With Scott's Facebook post of August 27, 2022 disclosing much of this information publicly, we can finally say what we believe needs to be said.
For the last twenty years we have lived far apart from one another and only saw Scott when meeting up to work on music or play shows. We had no idea what the reality was for his family when we were not around. By Scott's own admission, his abuse was intentional, targeted, and a closely guarded secret - even from those of us closest to him.
Once we learned of his abuse it was difficult to reconcile the horrible information with the person we thought we knew. It's not surprising he hid the abuse for so long because it is a betrayal of our ethics as bandmates, partners, parents, and human beings.
Since 2019, we have made numerous attempts to contact Scott. We wanted to have an honest talk about the status of the band and find out how he and his family were doing, but he has refused to speak with us for three years. And, in what we now see clearly to be a pattern, Scott refused to take responsibility for his actions. Having been through so much with someone for more than 35 years, one would expect some amount of closure, or at the very least a response.
Now, without returning any of the calls, texts, or e-mails of his bandmates and friends, Scott has made a public post about the situation. To us, this decision seems like another attempt at manipulation, another opportunity for his narcissism to control the narrative. Don't allow Scott to make this about himself, it's about the abuse his family has suffered.
Usually, we would view public openness and honesty about mental illness as brave and even productive. We just don't believe that is the case here.
There is nothing brave about systematically abusing your wife and children.
There is nothing brave about confessing wrongdoing when you have not done the work to change your behavior.
There is nothing brave about refusing to speak honestly, or speak at all, with one's closest friends and bandmates, people who have supported you and stuck by you for most of your life.
Compared to the impact of Scott's actions on his family, the impact on our band pales in significance. Nevertheless, with the heartbreak and horror we also grieve for the loss of our life's work and a legacy that was sacred to us.
Again, our primary concern is for the safety and well-being of Scott's wife and children, as well as anyone else in a similar situation. If someone you know is experiencing domestic violence or abuse, please reach out to one of the many local or national resources available. One national resource is:
National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-7233 www.thehotline.org
If you or someone you know is suffering from mental health issues that could make you a danger to yourself or others, please get help before you hurt yourself or the people you love. One resource for that is:
www.988lifeline.org
This is the only statement we plan to make about this issue. In due course, when it's appropriate, we will provide more information about our future musical endeavors, but that time is not now.
I wonder what it is he has particularly with this time of year. A loved one who died in late summer? Or he feels good at the onset of summer so stops taking his meds as a result? Who knows, but here's an almost identical confession from 29th August 2017:
https://www.facebook.com/scottkelly.music/posts/pfbid02bQpUdJvzmQurjQcYYemqFQtMAz6A92LmdjBt4roJnxumJZbRgvoN6eEKRpwo2U1vl
It's a damning indictment of modern medicine and healthcare that there is so little can be done to help individuals like him or, by extension and worse still, their ultimate victims.
Surely he'd have to be subject to a police investigation after admitting to all this?
Very interesting response from the band. It backs up to a tee my own idle speculation. I think the old "mental health" card is very conveniently flung about these days.
Respect the band for calling out this "manipulation" by Kelly with his statement. Dead right - was like him getting ahead of it in some ways. Like I said, it doesn't sound like it will end well.
"We cannot overstate the level of disgust and disappointment we feel for a man who we once called Brother"
"For the last twenty years we have lived far apart from one another and only saw Scott when meeting up to work on music or play shows"
Unless the lad was wearing an old Man City shirt, yiz never called him brother, if this shit is truth. Spas.
Yup. Especially now in light of the almost identical 2017 statement from Kelly, not only his own but also the band's statement come across as very performative.
I'd say the rest of the collective have been sitting on a version of the released statement given the timeline. I still hope all involved get the help needed particularly the family of course. As a fan I'm selfishly fucked off!
Not trying to be 'that' person, perhaps a change to the thread title.
Quote from: OpenSores on August 29, 2022, 11:22:49 PMNot trying to be 'that' person, perhaps a change to the thread title.
Scott Kelly is a cunt?
Done
An awful end to a class band really
Have been wondering if they'll continue after this. they've had such an established line up which Scott was definitely a massive part of for so long I'm not sure they'd be willing to replace or want to continue to play shows without him.
Said way to see them go if so. Never did get a chance to see them
Nah i can't see it tbh, the interplay between his and Till's vocals was just too important.
Steve Von Till will probably be pushing on with his solo stuff which has been getting a serious push the last while, even got coverage in RTE of all places!
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2020/0823/1160709-steve-von-till-makes-his-best-album-quite-by-accident/
At least we'll always have TSIB. Not going to read too much detail in case it gives lost prophets or Rolf Harris vibes going forward. Fair enough he's not a kiddie fiddler but it sounds pretty fuckin bad all the same.
Never seen em live either unfortunately
I could never get into this band so I don't know a lot about them. I read the statements this morning awful shit altogether but to me the Kelly statement looks as if something was or is about to come out and he is just trying to get ahead of it to ease the backlash he is going to suffer.
Saw on MA he also has a son in his mid 30's who plays in a few different bands.
New album out today...Aaron Turner replaces Kelly.
Wow, kept this very hush hush. Must give it a listen later.
I think this might be the only good news I've seen this year
Nice, will have a good aul toke and full listen tonight.
Should be interesting at least. I hope Turner brought a few ideas to the table, they've been pretty stale for decades.
Fucking hell. This is enormous news.
Fair play, Turner is the best man for the job (bar me, obviousy :laugh: ). Lashing this on straight away.
Yeah glad to know Turner is involved, sure he's the perfect fit given his relationship with em' already. I'm itching to hear it, sadly I can't get the feckin' peace damn pesky kids.
Nearly finished listening, definitely not a disappointing release. Looking forward to replaying again and again.
Yeah had a listen too, sounds pretty good, would definitely like to cross them off the live bucket list.
I am in my element. It's lethal.
Class news - listening on their bandcamp now:
https://neurosis.bandcamp.com/album/an-undying-love-for-a-burning-world
Would love to see them live.
Roadburn 27, I would suspect if not some big fest before then
First listen done. Amazing.
For a band that I thought was dead and buried 24 hours ago to come back this strong is fucking musical manna.
Theres a lot more fire in the belly and uptempo stuff that could fit on Times of Grace or Through Silver In Blood. They seem to be noticeably tighter as well. Turner is the perfect replacement for Kelly.
I'll be obsessed with this.
I just got the email from Neurot. Amazing news. Aaron Turner in for Kelly? Hhhhmmmmmmm... could go either way. I really hope they manage to capture some of that old earth crushing heaviness of old.
Quote from: Pentagrimes on March 20, 2026, 05:24:23 PMRoadburn 27, I would suspect if not some big fest before then
Damnation might make a play for them too.
New album is savage.
Just finished it. My word, what a comeback. I haven't really been impressed by anything since The Eye of Every Storm, and that came out twenty plus years ago at this stage. This one sounds monumental, and as mentioned above, it calls back to Times of Grace- that was my initial feeling too. I'm not a fan of Isis but Mr. Turner has just entered into my good graces which I'm sure will come as a huge relief to him. No no, sir, fair is fair.
The artwork looks really good. Like Paracletus turned inside out?
The last two tracks are great.
Ya, it's savage. Haven't keep up with them for the last few albums but this is class.
I hope they make their way dayn andah! I've seen them live four times and they are ferocious, although the last time I saw them was in The Button Factory and the volume was way too low. All you could hear was fucking twits at the bar talking throughout the gig.
Did Drainland support that night or am I hallucinating?
We did. If you hallucinated as a result, that's even better.
On about my 3rd listen now. As well as Turner fitting in so well what's really sticking out to me is how well the samples/keys/soundscapey bits work on this record, feels more prominent and adds so much, like a kind of harsh psychedelia. I know they've always been there but they feel like a really big part of this record.
Yeah. I wonder if Steve brought some more of that in to the mix. Definite touches of Harvestman detectable.
That's a welcome return alright, really hope they tour! Only caught them once and it was immense.
Hyped for this. Last few have all been very good, but they never stick - after a month or two I'm probably not reaching for them again. All worthy though,I'd say.
NeurIsis!
On my first spin and very much liking it. Nice to hear Turner doing his Sumac growls.
On a second listen here, definitely their liveliest in a long time.
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Had it on three times yesterday and it is going on again once I get into the car. Just unreal. Possibly best since Times of Grace is right. I see it is recorded & mixed by Scott Evans from Kowloon Walled City again too, he has done an awful lot of lethal albums lately, no exception here.
Listened to it twice last night, can't fault it. Will be back on it today so. Be grabbing the vinyl.
The best since The Eye of Every Storm at least. Time will tell where it ultimately stands in their catalogue.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 21, 2026, 09:21:20 AMThe best since The Eye of Every Storm at least. Time will tell where it ultimately stands in their catalogue.
Yeah definitely. One thing about the run of albums after TOG is they were less immediate but held up great or improved as they got older/more familiar. This is a more immediate album than those anyway
Finally getting to listen now, sounds great so far (track 3). What's immediately apparent is the huge upgrade in production without Albini, there are actual dynamics to be heard.
I dunno if your whole Albini thing is just to troll people or what but if there was ever a band who benefitted from his production its Neurosis.
I couldn't disagree more. No trolling, I genuinely think he was the worst thing to happen to the band. Completely deadened their sound from day one, Times Of Grace was a huge step down sonically and they never improved under him IMO. The only album 'his' sound suited was The Eye Of Every Storm, mainly because it was such a quiet album that there was little he could do to ruin it. That might have been the last one I bought, naybe the one after - it shows how little I cared about them at that point that I can't even remember what came next.
I've always hated his production work (with a couple of exceptions), he just flattened the impact of almost every band he touched.
Yup. I like his production work with Neurosis, particularly on TOG which is clear as a bell but heavy as hell.
Wasn't it Albini's whole thing that he never overly compressed anything and let the natural sound of the band and their dynamics shine through in the mix!?
Different strokes and all that, but I'd be of the opposite opinion that there'd only be a handful of things he's put his name to where he wasn't the right man for the job. On a side note, Fugazi just released their version of In On The Killtaker they did with him but never saw the light of day ('til now).
Anyway. This new album sounds class having given it a full listen this morning. Lovely surprise!
Yeah this is genuinely getting better with every listen. They definitely sound really reinvigorated and inspired again here, even juat listening makes me want to do something heavier musically again, tis that exciting. It's still slightly surreal that they're back. New Cardiacs and Neurosis in the space of a year has definitely made me a happy old man.
Roll on that new Steel Pole Bathtub stuff..
Great album anyway, best since the Jarboe collaboration at least, if not TSIB. Needs a few listems to take it all in, I'd imagine.
Yup, there's eatin' and drinkin' in this alright. Very appetite-satisfying first listen anyway! :abbath:
I haven't bothered with Neurosis in years. A Sun That Never Sets is the last one of theirs that I really enjoyed, but they sound revitalised on this album. Great stuff.
Sounds deadly. Loved that button factory gig. I like what I've listened to of Sumac but never listened enough to get how the vocals fit in, though that might be more a case of me not listening enough, I like his voice in general. I think Turner sounds great contrasting with Von Til on this. As Jamie said, the electronics seem to have a nice place on it too. Distrotable (based in Sligo) are doing pre-orders if anyone wants to get it with local postage: link (https://distrotable.com/products/neurosis-an-undying-love-for-a-burning-world?variant=53850764116314)
They only seem to have the vinyl, annoyingly. I'm fucked if I'm buying it from Evil Greed, their postage rates are nonsense.
Quote from: Carnage on March 23, 2026, 03:08:35 PMThey only seem to have the vinyl, annoyingly. I'm fucked if I'm buying it from Evil Greed, their postage rates are nonsense.
Could be worth emailing to see can he order a CD for you.
Try spindizzy/freebird, both had the cd for preorder at the weekend on their respective websites.
Spindizzy in particular put quite a bit of stuff online for preorder that you wouldn't expect
Sound lads, I'll have a look.
Someone has to say it
The album that killed Chuck Norris
Another reason to like it.
I wonder if Scott Kelly likes it
The last truly good one was A Sun That Never Sets, and this is the best one since then
Enjoying this a lot and they def sound like a band reinvigorated. The last few releases were very much treading water. The usual issue I have with 'comeback' albums is that expectations are generally low, so anything semi decent can sound initially promising but fail to stand up in the long term. I suspect that time will tell but so far so good.
Still on the go here. Just savage I couldn't possibly get sick of this.