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Title: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Mower Liberation Front on March 10, 2021, 01:01:14 PM
https://3arena.ie/artist/nightwish/3166

Be interesting to see if this happens.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: vinterland on March 17, 2021, 04:41:40 PM
Jurys booked in City Centre for €85 with free cancellation. Saw both in Wembley December 2015 so wouldn't say no to a repeat performance even if I'm mainly going for Amorphis. I imagine quite a few will head along for the novelty factor. Should be out of the woods by then.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: ldj on March 19, 2021, 09:20:20 PM
Would have never guessed they could play the 3arena to be honest.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Paul keohane on March 19, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: ldj on March 19, 2021, 09:20:20 PM
Would have never guessed they could play the 3arena to be honest.
I said the exact same thing when it was first announced,i know Nightwish are big in Europe,but never struck me as a band big enough here to play the 3 Arena.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on March 20, 2021, 01:09:02 PM
If it goes ahead people will be gagging for a gig and go to anything.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Western Viking on March 21, 2021, 08:46:30 PM
Got tickets for this when they came out, always had a soft spot for Nightwish and the fact that Amorphis were supporting made it a no brainer, I know they are really big in the rest of Europe but I cant see them drawing a huge crowd here if it even goes ahead.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: vinterland on March 21, 2021, 09:36:14 PM
They put on a great show in Wembley and I was really taken aback by how many had travelled from the European mainland to see them. Saw them ten years previous to that gig in the Corner Hotel, Richmond, Melbourne as part of the Once Tour, a venue which comfortable held a few hundred. A microcosm of how a band reached stratospheric heights within a decade. Still prefer the Tarja era to anything they've released since.

Quote from: Western Viking on March 21, 2021, 08:46:30 PM
Got tickets for this when they came out, always had a soft spot for Nightwish and the fact that Amorphis were supporting made it a no brainer, I know they are really big in the rest of Europe but I cant see them drawing a huge crowd here if it even goes ahead.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: StoutAndAle on March 23, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on March 19, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
I said the exact same thing when it was first announced,i know Nightwish are big in Europe,but never struck me as a band big enough here to play the 3 Arena.

Same here. I wonder is it something to do with social distancing measures?
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Paul keohane on March 23, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on March 23, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on March 19, 2021, 10:29:48 PM
I said the exact same thing when it was first announced,i know Nightwish are big in Europe,but never struck me as a band big enough here to play the 3 Arena.

Same here. I wonder is it something to do with social distancing measures?
Id say all these gigs are being book with potential for full capacity.I dont think bands would bother touring if theres limited capacity at venues.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: vinterland on October 30, 2021, 04:09:02 PM
I see this has been postponed along with the vast majority of their European concerts. Ticketmaster and their partners in crime Viagogo still selling tickets on the basis it's going ahead. The biggest touts of all.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Megalodon on November 02, 2021, 04:35:59 PM
I got sent out ticket this week, on the ball they are.  :-[
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Megalodon on September 22, 2022, 07:48:15 PM
Beast in Black have replaced Amorphis as Amorphis have their own show in the Academy the night before but then Beast in Black have their own show here about 2 months after that now then.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: vinterland on November 13, 2022, 07:40:44 PM
Any word on stage times for Amorphis or Nightwish yet? Trying to arrange cover at work.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Paul keohane on November 13, 2022, 11:53:31 PM
Are Amorphis not playing with Dark tranquility?
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Scumdogian on November 14, 2022, 10:31:32 AM
For those unsure, Amorphis are no longer supporting Nightwish . Supports for their show are now Beast In Black and Turmion Kaetiloet. Amorphis are however playing the Academy the night before with Eluveitie, Dark Tranquillity and Nailed to Obscurity.

Floor from Nightwish was diagnosed with cancer just a few weeks ago and had surgery to remove it. All apparently went well and they are acting as if the shows are still going ahead as of now. First show of the Nightwish tour is less than a week away so I think they would've postponed by now if they were going to. Still don't think they should be rushing into shows after something so serious but I'll be there to support if they do.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Pagan Saviour on November 14, 2022, 05:29:36 PM
Surely this one will be pulled given the circumstances? Sales can't be great in the first instance, I know they can reconfigure the 3Arena but I think the minimum arrangement is 5K. Would Nightwish do that kind of number here? Maybe I'm letting my disdain for this type of thing cloud judgement.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: vinterland on November 14, 2022, 06:20:30 PM
Sorry I phrased the question poorly. I was aware that Amorphis are playing Tuesday 22/11 in the Academy with Nightwish the following night in the Three Arena. I was hoping to hit both and  was just wondering if stage times for either venue were out yet. Wouldn't mind knowing Dark Tranquillity's stage time either. Had no idea re Floor. Obviously wishing her a speedy recuperation. I'd be amazed if that gig went ahead given those circumstances.

Quote from: Paul keohane on November 13, 2022, 11:53:31 PMAre Amorphis not playing with Dark tranquility?
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: BobbyAxelrod on November 22, 2022, 06:02:38 PM
The setlist was much better for the last leg, which ended a month ago. Not sure why they changed it for the European leg.  :'(

Maybe it's something to do with Floor's surgery, since three songs have been cut. Trying to lighten the load a bit?
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: exiled in ennis on November 22, 2022, 09:15:16 PM
Anyone know why the support bands are not playing?
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Scumdogian on November 22, 2022, 09:49:18 PM
Not sure why the supports have been axed. For those unaware, doors are now 6, Nightwish are due on at 8, due to finish at 10.

Regarding the abbreviated setlist, I imagine that is due to Floor recuperating. As well as dropping three songs, I notice they've included "Harvest" and made "How's the Heart?" an acoustic rendition, presumably with the aim of giving her a breather. I'm just delighted and relieved that she is in good health and excited that the show is going ahead at all. Early finish suits me travelling back to Cork anyway!
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: BobbyAxelrod on November 23, 2022, 08:20:12 PM
Quote from: Scumdogian on November 22, 2022, 09:49:18 PMNightwish are due on at 8

Well, they're late!
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Pagan Saviour on November 24, 2022, 06:20:22 AM
How was it numbers wise?
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Scumdogian on November 24, 2022, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: BobbyAxelrod on November 23, 2022, 08:20:12 PM
Quote from: Scumdogian on November 22, 2022, 09:49:18 PMNightwish are due on at 8

Well, they're late!

They were, but sure weren't they worth the wait! ;D
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Scumdogian on November 24, 2022, 07:28:14 PM
Quote from: Pagan Saviour on November 24, 2022, 06:20:22 AMHow was it numbers wise?

Was concerned when I arrived as to what the atmosphere would be like because a fairly sizeable section of the arena was cornered off as well as some of the seating. Hadn't seen it like that since I saw Bad Company there years ago. Despite it being far from a sellout my concerns regarding the atmosphere were completely unfounded because there was a great buzz altogether, and the band were absolutely fantastic.

I also must say full credit to them for coming to play here because they undoubtedly took a bit of a financial knock by doing so and I'm sure other bands would've seen fit to cancel the show given the circumstances. I was massively impressed with Floor too. To be putting in performances like that after just getting a clean bill of health recently is astonishing.

Although it would make little sense for them to come back again financially or  logistically when they do so well elsewhere, I hope they do come back again soon. Fantastic show and lovely vibe in the audience. Delighted to have made it.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Megalodon on November 24, 2022, 08:39:13 PM
It was pretty good numbers wise though no? A-G seating was practically sold out (top tiers closed off) and standing was grand in the config amended to, more at it than the AA/MH gig for comparison. That's a rather decent return for a band of this kind in Ireland I'd have thought I expected less tbh. They could have got more money off me as merch was quite good but 45 yoyo a t-shirt, nah soz.

Really baffled as to how you can maintain they took a hit from it tbh but okay.

Worth the trek anyway pity they cut songs from the South American run but highly understandable in getting Floor back on track, I've seen them a couple of times elsewheres and there always seems a spread of younger people at them so it did strike me that I'd say there was barely a peep of anyone under 30 at it I'd say. 
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Scumdogian on November 24, 2022, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: Megalodon on November 24, 2022, 08:39:13 PMIt was pretty good numbers wise though no? A-G seating was practically sold out (top tiers closed off) and standing was grand in the config amended to, more at it than the AA/MH gig for comparison. That's a rather decent return for a band of this kind in Ireland I'd have thought I expected less tbh. They could have got more money off me as merch was quite good but 45 yoyo a t-shirt, nah soz.

Really baffled as to how you can maintain they took a hit from it tbh but okay.

Ah yeah, I agree. Turnout was much better than I expected also. It's in no way baffling considering even bigger bands have to do very good numbers on basically every date of a tour just to come remotely close to breaking even on it. No band is immune to this.
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Snare on November 24, 2022, 10:52:37 PM
I'd be surprised if the band are at risk financially - surely it's on the promotor's head for each show?
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: Scumdogian on November 24, 2022, 11:44:40 PM
I would've thought the promoter incurs the lions share of the loss but that  it would depend on the dynamics of a particular tour. And upon the flat fee guarantee that an artist is assured of as well as how that relates to the overall ticket sales. Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, I'm certainly no expert and not pretending to be!
Title: Re: Nightwish, Amorphis, Turmion Kätilöt - 3Arena, November 2021.
Post by: BobbyAxelrod on November 25, 2022, 12:48:12 AM
Quote from: Megalodon on November 24, 2022, 08:39:13 PMIt was pretty good numbers wise though no? A-G seating was practically sold out (top tiers closed off) and standing was grand in the config amended to, more at it than the AA/MH gig for comparison.

Really baffled as to how you can maintain they took a hit from it tbh but okay.

Yeah, I think the show would surely be profitable for them. The full configuration is 13,000 and fully seated is 8,000 (e.g., Tool), so I'd imagine last night's configuration has a max capacity of 7,000.

€250k-€300k gross is a fair pop.