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Title: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 14, 2021, 03:55:56 PM
I was debating on putting this in the Simple Pleasures thread but, for me anyway, coffee is much more than that. There's something about that oily black liquid which draws me like a moth to a flame.

I packed in cigarettes 9 years ago cold turkey (after several failed attempts before that), I have been able to go months without an alcoholic drink (weirdly my intake is way down since the advent of COVID-19), I can cut certain foods out my diet easily enough but I cannot fathom a time without a cup of good black coffee.

I own nearly every coffee-making device known to man and I obsess about brewing processes. AeroPress, Hario V60, Bialetti, Clever Dripper, percolator, Kalita Wave - everything except an espresso machine...

Some days it takes me longer to make coffee than it does to cook breakfast to the point where my missus has eaten and washed the ware whilst I'm still watching a ribbon of caffeinated joy flow from a filter into a Hario jug.

I buy high grade beans - mainly from Irish suppliers namely, West Cork Coffee, 3FE and Cloud Picker. If shipping isn't too costly I order from The Barn in Berlin and Stumptown in the US.

Any other java junkies on here? Any recommendations?


TL:DR Version - Coffee. Any use?
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Caomhaoin on January 14, 2021, 04:04:49 PM
I'm not an expert but I got a lash of Serbian coffee (I think it may be Turkish in reality) and it is yer only man for that proper jolt in the morning.

Prefer a cup o'tae though.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on January 14, 2021, 04:08:34 PM
20 years ago Nescafe instant was king.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Nazgûl on January 14, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
Bought our first espresso machine for the gaf there before Christmas and I'm delighted with it -- my body probably isn't however. Also no expert here, but since getting the aul machine I'm getting more into the whole grind/tamping/ratios/pour time...as well as the milk frothing as I like a Flat White.

Haven't gotten too adventurous yet with buying different beans as we've only had it a month or so, but the first bag I ordered was from Red Strand Coffee who are also Cork based. It was one of the nicest cups of coffee I had in this country while at a festival before, and the bag they sent me didn't disappoint either.

Like Kevin up there, I'm a fucking tea addict but now that I have the ability to make a really nice coffee from home it's become a ritual every morning.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 14, 2021, 04:14:26 PM
What's the best method, in your opinion, if one even exists?

I favour it on the strong side, too strong is waaaaay more preferable than too weak and watery. Would generally stick to espressos and some places even manage to make those watery! Not a big fan of the mad fruity stuff that a lot of specialist places put out either, Italian style almost chocolatey and roasty is much more my thing. IDK if I'm doing it wrong, only started drinking coffee regularly in the last year or so really, but that's what my preference is atm.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Nazgûl on January 14, 2021, 04:19:46 PM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 14, 2021, 04:14:26 PM
Not a big fan of the mad fruity stuff that a lot of specialist places put out either

I do like it now to be fair, but I'd be equally happy out with a strong black coffee too so long as it's decent quality. I wonder though now, when did those milder flavoured coffees become a thing with baristas? Seems like it just happened overnight that everywhere was serving them. A bit like the craft beer thing.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 14, 2021, 04:22:50 PM
Aeropress coffee, in my experience (both at home, before I lost mine in a move, and in coffee places), always comes out much, much lighter, thinner, more "watery" than any other kind of coffee. I don't know whether the trend simply followed the advent of the piece of equipment??
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Ollkiller on January 14, 2021, 05:13:06 PM
Nectar of the gods. Fuck tea. Flavourless bog water.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 14, 2021, 05:14:18 PM
Quote from: Nazgûl on January 14, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
Red Strand Coffee.

Good coffee. Sound fella. I don't buy beans from him though. Always grab a cup if I see him somewhere.




Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on January 14, 2021, 04:14:26 PM
What's the best method, in your opinion, if one even exists?

I favour it on the strong side, too strong is waaaaay more preferable than too weak and watery. Would generally stick to espressos and some places even manage to make those watery! Not a big fan of the mad fruity stuff that a lot of specialist places put out either, Italian style almost chocolatey and roasty is much more my thing. IDK if I'm doing it wrong, only started drinking coffee regularly in the last year or so really, but that's what my preference is atm.

Some places write descriptions that don't deliver. West Cork Coffee, 3FE and The Barn's stuff matches their tasting notes. They all offer the fruity/flowery style ones but they all do the chocolate/nut/toffee style ones too - coffee flavoured coffee as I call it.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 14, 2021, 04:22:50 PM
Aeropress coffee, in my experience (both at home, before I lost mine in a move, and in coffee places), always comes out much, much lighter, thinner, more "watery" than any other kind of coffee. I don't know whether the trend simply followed the advent of the piece of equipment??



For me, personally - the AeroPress is the best way to make a cup of coffee. I have one at home, in my office, in my workshop. It makes the cleanest, brightest, juiciest coffee or it can make you a kick-in-the-balls espresso. You need to have the grind right and the temperature correct though or you can end up with a cup of watery bilge. Luckily - most decent coffee shops and roasters will grind your beans to the right size, if you want to take this part of the equation out of your hands. A bag of freshly ground coffee will keep right for about 2 weeks in a sealed container whereas fresh roasted beans will be good for up to four months.

My only gripe with the AeroPress is that if you're jonesing for a fix that only becomes sated after 2 cups then you have to repeat the whole thing over again. This is why I have a Hario V60 with a 600ml jug. Clean black coffee that's simple to prepare.

If you want "thicker" coffee then the machine - like a Sage or whatever - is the way to go. There can be a lot of fucking around with those machines though as opposed to the two above which only require a kettle. A moka pot - like a Bialetti - will also give you this experience provided you're careful to dial in the top up water at the right temp after you've made the espresso.

Fun story - I was given a Bialetti 6-cup pot as a Christmas present when I was 18. I'd never used one before but I read the instructions twice. Lobbed in a lash of finely ground Segafredo Zanetti - remember that? Filled the reservoir. Put it on the stove. Did as per the instructions. Poured it into a mug.

"6 cup?" I thought - I barely got a Liverpool mug's worth out of it. "Must've done something wrong".

Drank my cup of coffee. About 10 minutes later my heart and head were pounding like a double-kick then I got a serious nose bleed. I thought I was having a stroke.

Tried the Bialetti a few more times but rarely got more than a cuppa out of it.

A week later told my buddy who'd given me the gift that I was experiencing an issue with it - "Yeah. 6-cup means it makes six strong espressos, yeh fuckin' tit!"
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 14, 2021, 05:37:28 PM
Oh okay. I've never had anything resembling an espresso from an Aeropress. When I got one, I just started making them the way I'd gotten them in coffee places in Paris, where I guess they would naturally turn to a machine if you asked for an espresso.

I can only hack one cup a day now anyway, sometimes two for a treat on the weekend, and I make it now with the most common thing for coffee here which is the wee Italian stove-top job.

When I realized I should drastically cut back on coffee, I managed to drop it altogether for about a year before going back up to one, and during that time I developed a taste for chicory, which I still drink during the day. There's absolutely no comparison to coffee, but with or without milk, it makes for a well cozy drink with a bit of chocolate.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Nazgûl on January 14, 2021, 05:40:54 PM
Stout & Ale, your very thorough last post there really does back up the original post -- where you spoke about making a cup of coffee for the same amount of time your misses takes to eat and shower  :laugh: A true coffee lover! Fair play.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Paul keohane on January 14, 2021, 05:57:19 PM
Ive become addicted to Lattes over the last decade,ive put a few grand behind the counter of my local Bean & Leaf cafe over the years.

It actually stemmed from cycling,id be out cycling with lads years back,we'd stop for a coffee somewhere,i ajways drank tea.But about 10 years ago i went over to the dark side.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Carnage on January 14, 2021, 06:11:12 PM
I wouldn't go to all that amount of trouble for a cuppa joe, but the day isn't allowed to begin until I've had most of a cafetière's worth of coffee. Tesco's Sumatra Mandheling is the one I go for, no difference between ground or beans, really. I might try some of the bean brands mentioned here, as I do enjoy coffee, but strictly at an amateur level.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Emphyrio on January 14, 2021, 06:41:48 PM
Bleedin' Jayziz, are yiz all barristas now?

Nectar of the gods + tea only.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Blackout on January 14, 2021, 10:34:32 PM
The strongest coffee pods you can get for the nespresso do me. The Lor wans are delish
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Caomhaoin on January 15, 2021, 10:11:00 AM
I used to use the nespresso machine every morning because it's so convenient, but the Italian stainless steel cafetière makes a much nicer cup.

Cups o'tae only after the one morning caife.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Blackout on January 15, 2021, 10:18:43 AM
Never bothered with French press coffee as it seemed too watery and I like my coffee strong.

Anyone have a bean to cup machine?
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: leatherface on January 15, 2021, 10:23:54 AM
I make stove (Italian style) coffee but it takes too bloody long. I prefer strong flavoured stuff (african or brazilian, so many types out there). Nescafe does the job if I'm in a hurry though, it's like diesel if you put a few too many scoops in.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 10:32:55 AM
Quote from: leatherface on January 15, 2021, 10:23:54 AM
I make stove (Italian style) coffee but it takes too bloody long.

Takes 10 minutes max, unless you're running a solar powered stove in Ireland  :P

Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Caomhaoin on January 15, 2021, 10:56:29 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 10:32:55 AM
Quote from: leatherface on January 15, 2021, 10:23:54 AM
I make stove (Italian style) coffee but it takes too bloody long.

Takes 10 minutes max, unless you're running a solar powered stove in Ireland  :P


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 10:32:55 AM
Quote from: leatherface on January 15, 2021, 10:23:54 AM
I make stove (Italian style) coffee but it takes too bloody long.

Takes 10 minutes max, unless you're running a solar powered stove in Ireland  :P



Yeah, it takes as long as boiling the water!

The Serbian/Turkish stuff you have to continually stir and it leaves a big lump of goop at the end of the cup, but it's highly stimulating stuff.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 15, 2021, 11:07:08 AM
Quote from: leatherface on January 15, 2021, 10:23:54 AM
I make stove (Italian style) coffee but it takes too bloody long. I prefer strong flavoured stuff (african or brazilian, so many types out there). Nescafe does the job if I'm in a hurry though, it's like diesel if you put a few too many scoops in.

Boil the water in a kettle while you're grinding the beans. Add it to the reservoir - use a tea towel lest you want 3rd degree burns from aluminium - screw into place and put it on the stove on low.

Quote from: Blackout on January 15, 2021, 10:18:43 AM
Never bothered with French press coffee as it seemed too watery and I like my coffee strong.

Anyone have a bean to cup machine?

My brother-in-law in the UK has a bean to cup machine. A high-end Sage yoke. Cost a fortune. He said it looks great but after spending all the money on it, he said that he it broke his heart to get it right and then it started acting up. Returned it and got a new one - same issue. He's debating on getting a refund altogether now, just fed up with it.

Regarding the French Press - if you use a slightly finer grind than what's normally recommended and allow the coffee to bloom a little first - you'll get a more rewarding cafetiere. Pour in only enough hot, not boiling, water to wet the grounds and let it bloom - you'll see the creamy brown head appear and then little popping bubbles. The bubbles are CO2 escaping, the more CO2 that you get out of a brew, the better the extraction rate from the coffee will be. After about a minute slowly pour in the rest of the water while stirring gently, let sit for another 4 minutes before plunging.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 15, 2021, 10:56:29 AM
The Serbian/Turkish stuff you have to continually stir and it leaves a big lump of goop at the end of the cup, but it's highly stimulating stuff.

Yeah, "Greek" coffee is the same as Turkish style, except with honey stirred in with it instead of sugar.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Caomhaoin on January 15, 2021, 11:14:05 AM
A lot of things in the balkans from food to music and coffee are very much influenced by the Turks, although you are better off not mentioning that to the locals, especially to Serbs ; They often refer to Bosniaks as 'Balija', essentially an impolite word for a Turk.

They'll also look at you like you have two heads if you put milk in the 'domestic' coffee.

Here in Spain I've seen people dip sandwiches in coffee, and have people call me a pig for putting a dropín of the bainne in my tea!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 15, 2021, 11:24:09 AM
Yeah, the French are the same with the dunking. Way back, still living in town, I had a French girlfriend and we were staying down a hotel in Clare some time. The first morning in the breakfast room she was looking around commenting on how weird Irish people were to be eating a full cooked meal first in the morning...while simultaneously dipping a slice of buttered and jammed toast into her coffee. Sacré bleu !
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Emphyrio on January 15, 2021, 11:28:39 AM
Quote from: Emphyrio on January 14, 2021, 06:41:48 PM
Bleedin' Jayziz, are yiz all barristas now?


Right, yiz are.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 15, 2021, 11:30:41 AM
I was working in Essen, Germany a while back and a lad asked me if I was Bavarian. I asked him why he assumed that.

"You speak German with a rural accent and you have put milk in your tea!"

Meanwhile he was dumping spoonful after spoonful of white sugar into his cup. Then swirling bits of pastry in it.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Blackout on January 15, 2021, 12:04:59 PM
I'll stick to nespresso  :laugh:
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 15, 2021, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: Blackout on January 15, 2021, 12:04:59 PM
I'll stick to nespresso  :laugh:

:laugh: Heh heh. Wisdom. I could have probably read "Ulysses" cover to cover with the amount of time I've spent dicking around with coffee methods. 

The Nespresso coffee is handy, my dad has one in his house. I find that it's fairly jacked up in caffeine though. I drink pots of coffee (no shit) every single day but there's a fuckin' wap off the Nespresso stuff that makes me jittery.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Blackout on January 15, 2021, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 15, 2021, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: Blackout on January 15, 2021, 12:04:59 PM
I'll stick to nespresso  :laugh:

:laugh: Heh heh. Wisdom. I could have probably read "Ulysses" cover to cover with the amount of time I've spent dicking around with coffee methods. 

The Nespresso coffee is handy, my dad has one in his house. I find that it's fairly jacked up in caffeine though. I drink pots of coffee (no shit) every single day but there's a fuckin' wap off the Nespresso stuff that makes me jittery.

Exactly why I love it.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: jobrok1 on January 15, 2021, 05:56:31 PM
@StoutAndAle...
If you're around Cork City Centre, then pop into Café Torino for one of their Guilliano coffees.
Best in the city, IMO.
A bold statement, but fuck it, it's deliciously smooth. Especially the organic version.

And the Coffeehouse here in Fermoy is owned by an Irish guy who lived in Poland for years where he has his own roastery... Wrigley's Coffee Roasters.
It's a good strong coffee that ticks all the right boxes.

Both places sell by the bag, too.


Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 18, 2021, 01:49:19 PM
@jobrok - Cheers fella, I'll check that out. Is that the place that used to be Hassett's on Washington St?
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: jobrok1 on January 18, 2021, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 18, 2021, 01:49:19 PM
@jobrok - Cheers fella, I'll check that out. Is that the place that used to be Hassett's on Washington St?
Eeehhh!!!!  No clue...
Can't miss it, though.
It's right beside the Singer gaff in the corner.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ochoill on January 18, 2021, 03:26:47 PM
I enjoy a good coffee but don't do them up very often.  I got my wife a Nespresso machine for Christmas and she is happy out with it because it's nicer than the instant and takes less effort than the french press.  There's some good ones in there, it does the job well.

My preferred at the minute is a french press and lavazza rossa.  Lovely coffee, standard enough fare compared to most of the stuff here but it is great, not too acidic, lovely flavour.  Two tablespoons into the press, get about two mugs.  Don't put milk or sugar near your coffee you fuckin degenerates, you'll ruin the cunting thing, even if it's just instant coffee (which i drink regularly too).  I must get a grinder and some beans to try out a few mentioned here.

Oh who was on about tea, tea is still great but again keep that fuckin milk to yourself.  And leave the bag in.  It's also lovely cold, I often forget about the cup I made for an hour or so if I'm doing something and it's just delicious having sat that long with the bag in.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Blackout on January 18, 2021, 04:47:45 PM
Never understood having milk in coffee. Coffees have distinct flavours that are ruined with milk put in.

I sound like a bearded, tattooed, barista wanker but I stand by it.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 18, 2021, 04:55:15 PM
Quote from: Blackout on January 18, 2021, 04:47:45 PM
Never understood having milk in coffee. Coffees have distinct flavours that are ruined with milk put in.

I sound like a bearded, tattooed, barista wanker but I stand by it.

I generally drink my coffee black but I have been know to add a drop of  milk to it from time to time. It can definitely mask the horrible acidity of cheaper coffees but (puts bearded, barista wanker beanie hat on) some coffee roasters suggest putting a drop of milk in certain roasts to bring out the flavour.

Silverskin had one a while back that tasted like a bitter fruit jam - very refeshing. One of the folks in my local haunt (Filter in Cork - one of the greats) suggested putting the tiniest drop of milk in it to see what I thought. The fucking thing tasted like a Black Forest Gateux - mind fuckery.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Carnage on January 18, 2021, 05:22:42 PM
Coffee is generallly too sour without milk, though I always drink it black at work as everyone else does, I just got used to it there (usually no milk).

Tea needs milk though, and anyone leaving the bag in should be shot in the face. Savagery.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Don Gately on January 18, 2021, 08:34:48 PM
Lavazza rossa for me in the Italian stove top. Get away with that aul Nespresso. 
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ochoill on January 18, 2021, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: Carnage on January 18, 2021, 05:22:42 PMTea needs milk though, and anyone leaving the bag in should be shot in the face. Savagery.
Very wrong.  Also great to leave the bag in for a quick top up if you're running low on bags.  Less wash up too, no spoons used.  More economical because there's less ingredients.  Delicious refreshment and extra strong because it steeps for so long.  Top tier.

Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ochoill on January 18, 2021, 08:39:06 PM
Quote from: Don Gately on January 18, 2021, 08:34:48 PM
Lavazza rossa for me in the Italian stove top. Get away with that aul Nespresso.
The Lavazza rossa is delicious but I won't turn my nose up at the Nespresso either.  Or the instant stuff.  They all have their place
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 18, 2021, 09:03:48 PM
I think leaving the tea bag in is only taboo on the presumed condition that there's milk in there. I'm not a fan of "normal" tea black, but it's probably mainly a question of habit, and I've the habit of drinking plenty of others without milk so I just never really mess with what I'm used to in that way. Incidentally, I've no qualms about leaving the bag in with the milk; when I have a cup of the aul Barry's, I like it strong, often much stronger than the time allowed by whoever's waiting for me would leave room for, so the only thing to do is whack the milk in and leave it to steep some more.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Caomhaoin on January 19, 2021, 07:53:42 AM
Got a teapot there for Christmas from the Mrs, which is a rare enough item around here, enjoying me tae more than I have in a long time.

Moderately strong, drop of milk, no sugar. Don't fiddle with a classic beverage! I saw people mixing coke with beer in Germany, and Spaniards mixing single malt Islay whisky with that shite too.

Why do people do this?
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on January 19, 2021, 08:00:14 AM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on January 19, 2021, 07:53:42 AM
Got a teapot there for Christmas from the Mrs, which is a rare enough item around here, enjoying me tae more than I have in a long time.

Moderately strong, drop of milk, no sugar. Don't fiddle with a classic beverage! I saw people mixing coke with beer in Germany, and Spaniards mixing single malt Islay whisky with that shite too.

Why do people do this?
A fookin shlap is needed!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on January 20, 2021, 07:17:42 AM
Swedish egg coffee....

https://thetakeout.com/let-us-praise-the-humble-glory-of-swedish-egg-coffee-1846012719
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 20, 2021, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Nazgûl on January 14, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
Bought our first espresso machine for the gaf there before Christmas and I'm delighted with it -- my body probably isn't however. Also no expert here, but since getting the aul machine I'm getting more into the whole grind/tamping/ratios/pour time...as well as the milk frothing as I like a Flat White.

Forgot to mention this the other day; try putting a little cube of ice in the jug with the milk when you're starting the frothing. Helps to get a nice, rich consistency - also full fat milk only - you might as well wipe your hole with 40 grit sandpaper as use low fat milk.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Blackout on January 20, 2021, 09:24:01 AM
If yiz are looking for a quick hit, kenco milicanos Amercano Intense instant coffee is yer man.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: leoos on January 21, 2021, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 14, 2021, 05:14:18 PM


Fun story - I was given a Bialetti 6-cup pot as a Christmas present when I was 18. I'd never used one before but I read the instructions twice. Lobbed in a lash of finely ground Segafredo Zanetti - remember that? Filled the reservoir. Put it on the stove. Did as per the instructions. Poured it into a mug.

"6 cup?" I thought - I barely got a Liverpool mug's worth out of it. "Must've done something wrong".

Drank my cup of coffee. About 10 minutes later my heart and head were pounding like a double-kick then I got a serious nose bleed. I thought I was having a stroke.

Tried the Bialetti a few more times but rarely got more than a cuppa out of it.

A week later told my buddy who'd given me the gift that I was experiencing an issue with it - "Yeah. 6-cup means it makes six strong espressos, yeh fuckin' tit!"

I use my Bialetti 6 cup in the mornings with one tablespoon of Medium Roast coffee, poured out into one cup and off I go. Thats the only coffee of the day for me though. I had a 9 cup before that I used to decant into a flask and bring to the office back when going to the office was a thing. I'd make Americanos with half coffee, half hot water during the day from it.

Other than that Lavazza Intenso Coffee for a quick instant cup sometimes.

Or McDonalds if I'm in town.

I'm decidedly low rent beside your dedication to the art
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on January 21, 2021, 10:38:07 AM
Have any of you ever tried the coffee processed (Kopi luwak) from Civet cats poop?
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 22, 2021, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 21, 2021, 10:38:07 AM
Have any of you ever tried the coffee processed (Kopi luwak) from Civet cats poop?

No. I read about it back in the day when it was big news. Definitely a case of the emperor's new clothes. It's like sour craft beer (for the most part) - trendy lads in skinny pants who arrived at the pub on Penny Farthings saying shite like "Definitely agree with you there, Timpiste, funk off of this watermelon gose from New Mexico is a serious statement".

If you were handed a beer that smelled that way ten years ago, your serious statement would be "Here! This beer is gone bad. When did you clean the lines last?"
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 22, 2021, 01:22:05 PM
Quote from: leoos on January 21, 2021, 09:01:15 AM
I'm decidedly low rent beside your dedication to the art

Yeah... I should really have put my focus into doing something more and advancing my career or something. Too late now. Kettle on.

Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 22, 2021, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 22, 2021, 01:16:24 PM
Definitely agree with you there, Timpiste

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: pete on January 22, 2021, 02:07:22 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 22, 2021, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 21, 2021, 10:38:07 AM
Have any of you ever tried the coffee processed (Kopi luwak) from Civet cats poop?

No. I read about it back in the day when it was big news. Definitely a case of the emperor's new clothes. It's like sour craft beer (for the most part) - trendy lads in skinny pants who arrived at the pub on Penny Farthings saying shite like "Definitely agree with you there, Timpiste, funk off of this watermelon gose from New Mexico is a serious statement".

If you were handed a beer that smelled that way ten years ago, your serious statement would be "Here! This beer is gone bad. When did you clean the lines last?"

I remember Brian at Silverskin had one that was pooped one time, I feel like it was elephants though.

Funny what you say above about sour drinkers is often said to me about 3FE etc!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: son of the Morrigan on January 22, 2021, 11:14:58 PM
A tip for those who don't have the financial resources to purchase the very expensive Kopi Luwac,
Centra instant coffee tastes just like a steaming cup of cats shite.
Alternatively, slip some lightly roasted coffee beans into your own cats food bowl and wait.
As an added treat, capture a lactating cat and gently squeeze her teats into your cup of Centra coffee, it really adds to that delightfully disgusting aftertaste beloved of coffee snobs and arseholes the world over.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on January 22, 2021, 11:54:11 PM
Someone's on Karpackie...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 25, 2021, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: pete on January 22, 2021, 02:07:22 PM
Funny what you say above about sour drinkers is often said to me about 3FE etc!

Really? I guess I could see that happening. 

Coffee wankers aren't as bad as beer wankers.

Yet.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: pete on January 25, 2021, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 25, 2021, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: pete on January 22, 2021, 02:07:22 PM
Funny what you say above about sour drinkers is often said to me about 3FE etc!

Really? I guess I could see that happening. 

Ah of course it does! And I say that as someone who loves the coffee you've posted and also loves a sour beer ha!

Enjoyed some West Cork Coffee over the weekend actually, have you tried the Stone Valley guys: https://www.stonevalleyroasters.com/
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on January 25, 2021, 03:25:40 PM
Quote from: pete on January 25, 2021, 01:54:55 PM
Ah of course it does! And I say that as someone who loves the coffee you've posted and also loves a sour beer ha!

Enjoyed some West Cork Coffee over the weekend actually, have you tried the Stone Valley guys: https://www.stonevalleyroasters.com/

Given my username - I'm a bit of a beer wanker (not to the level of some cunts) but sours are something that I can't say I like or see the point of - for the most part. I've never been in a coffee shop and had to tolerate some of the fuckology that goes along with beer (and wine) though! I've never seen anyone loudly gargle coffee - for example.

I've had Stone Valley when the lads in my daily haunt here in Cork, Filter, have put it on as their batch but never bought a bag of it, no. I can't remember the last time that I had it. I think my buddy did some artwork for them a while back. Any recommendation?



Ordered two new ones from Cloud Picker last Friday which sound interesting;

San Francisco | Costa Rica ---- Mango | Orange Liqueur | Golden Raisin
Chirinos | Peru ---- Cocoa | Cherry | Amaretto


From 3FE currently the Toño from Costa Rica is very good. As is Los Mangos but I think that's done with now.

I should also have mentioned to anyone who wants a very good bag of coffee tasting coffee then 3FE's Momentum is fairly bulletproof.

https://shop.3fe.com/product/momentum-blend
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: pete on January 25, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 25, 2021, 03:25:40 PM
Given my username - I'm a bit of a beer wanker (not to the level of some cunts) but sours are something that I can't say I like or see the point of

Yeah maybe an acquired taste, if your ever over Brussels way - my favourite brewery tour is the Cantillon one, I'd highly recommend if you have not already!

Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 25, 2021, 03:25:40 PM
I've had Stone Valley when the lads in my daily haunt here in Cork, Filter, have put it on as their batch but never bought a bag of it, no. I can't remember the last time that I had it. I think my buddy did some artwork for them a while back. Any recommendation?

They are my closest shop here so I often pop in. Currently on this one this week at home and enjoying it:
https://www.stonevalleyroasters.com/store/p/orpd5ea2xaqz272q03f1waplgq50eh-f8lfp-hkm2a-shm8s-l93y4

I always try make it to Filter when in the city.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on March 23, 2021, 12:39:46 PM
This one from Cloudpicker is very tasty at the minute;

https://cloudpickercoffee.ie/collections/coffee/products/peru-chirinos
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on April 13, 2021, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: jobrok1 on January 15, 2021, 05:56:31 PM
@StoutAndAle...
If you're around Cork City Centre, then pop into Café Torino for one of their Guilliano coffees.

Remembered to drop in to this place on a morning walk last week. Good call. Just had a regular coffee but it was nice. It's a nice little place too. He didn't have anything else to sell, he was just open, so my three quid is not gonna keep him afloat.

I dunno how many of you lads are actually coffee heads and into the accoutrement but I got this just before Easter.   

https://www.moccamaster.eu/webshop/brewers_with_uk_plug/kbg_select_-_uk/

After a week of using it, I can safely say it is the best percolator I have ever owned or drank coffee from. If any of your are in the market for this type of machine, I would not hesitate. And you can buy it directly from the manufacturer thus saving about 50 quid.

Finally - I got around to trying a few coffees from Imbibe - some seriously high quality stuff. Their house blend - Kaleidoscope - is a great all day coffee. The current Columbian - El Puente - is excellent too.

Imbibe have an interesting business model as well. They give 1% of turnover from all coffee sales is donated to Women's Aid in Ireland, 1% back to staff and 1% to educational projects in coffee producing countries.   



Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Giggles on April 13, 2021, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on January 22, 2021, 01:16:24 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 21, 2021, 10:38:07 AM
Have any of you ever tried the coffee processed (Kopi luwak) from Civet cats poop?

No. I read about it back in the day when it was big news. Definitely a case of the emperor's new clothes. It's like sour craft beer (for the most part) - trendy lads in skinny pants who arrived at the pub on Penny Farthings saying shite like "Definitely agree with you there, Timpiste, funk off of this watermelon gose from New Mexico is a serious statement".

If you were handed a beer that smelled that way ten years ago, your serious statement would be "Here! This beer is gone bad. When did you clean the lines last?"

Have to disagree with you there man. I've been to one of the small farms in Sumatra and I can tell you that it is quite literally "good shit". If you ever get a chance to taste it, you should definitely try and seperate the product from its retail price and whatever hipster analogy you might associate with it.

From what I remember, you could buy a box of coffee beans straight from the source for about €6. That very same box would be imported into the west for about €80, or probably more. I remember the mark-up being insane.

Would I pay €30 for a cup though? Fuck no. It's fucking coffee. I don't think any coffee is worth €30 a cup unless it's got a hape of drugs in it. And I mean a hape.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on June 18, 2021, 10:31:59 AM
I mentioned the Barn/Kreator collaboration coffee in the shameless merch thread. Solid cup of coffee - definitely worth your time.

This Malawi from Imbibe Dublin is fucking immense - they still have some left by the look of things too. Savage cup.

https://imbibe.ie/product/malawi-mchezi-hill-estate/



Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: livingabortion on June 29, 2021, 11:49:26 PM
I think I need to change my brand of coffee, it's giving me the shits lately.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: jobrok1 on June 30, 2021, 09:49:14 AM
"Coffee House Lane of Waterford"
Picked up a bag in Aldi (was one of their special offers) the other week and went back for a few more the next day.

YUM!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: StoutAndAle on March 22, 2024, 09:37:08 AM
Zombie Thread - Caffeinated Resurection!

Slugging back the black stuff as I peruse. Saw Ochoill posted about cooking in the Simple Pleasures thread and it brought to my mind the absolute horror show way that he used to make coffee.  :laugh:  :abbath:

I've bought several varietals from Calendar coffee in Galway over the last while. I highly recommend. They do a large bag of test roast (much like The Barn in Berlin) which is great if you just want a coffee-tasting coffee and is very good value.   

https://calendarcoffee.ie/

Imbibe are still the tops for me though.

https://imbibe.ie/shop/
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ochoill on March 22, 2024, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: StoutAndAle on March 22, 2024, 09:37:08 AMSlugging back the black stuff as I peruse. Saw Ochoill posted about cooking in the Simple Pleasures thread and it brought to my mind the absolute horror show way that he used to make coffee.  :laugh:  :abbath:
:laugh: I completely forgot about that.  It's all either French press or Moka pot nowadays.  Mostly the Moka at the minute, I got it as a gift too late last year.  Buying packs of UCC coffee in Tesco usually, it's decent, but it is about time for another Imbibe order.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: leatherface on March 23, 2024, 09:04:23 PM
Just a simple stovetop 'Italiano' coffee maker for me, get beans ground up locally.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: 91/30 on March 24, 2024, 05:29:40 AM
Aldi beans are great in my experience, my wife buys all these other expensive packs from time to time but I can't taste any amazing difference worth the extra outlay