It was good to see Whyte hit the canvas on Saturday night. At least now we won't have to hear about his Fury sparring stories for a while.
Bad for the division. Povetkin isn't going to trouble Fury and he won't get a fight against Joshua again. Whyte was, at least, a potentially interesting alternative to the AJ-Fury monotony. He's not a great fighter and you may not like him but he's usually involved in exciting enough fights.
Quote from: Juggz on August 24, 2020, 01:53:55 PM
Bad for the division. Povetkin isn't going to trouble Fury and he won't get a fight against Joshua again. Whyte was, at least, a potentially interesting alternative to the AJ-Fury monotony. He's not a great fighter and you may not like him but he's usually involved in exciting enough fights.
To be honest i think he's below the level of Fury and Joshua. I 'm not just basing this on the Povetkin loss, i have always felt this. No question he has been screwed over, but he did have a chance to rematch Joshua but turned it down.
Yeah, he's not top tier by any stretch of the imagination but he was durable (until that uppercut) and regularly involved in interesting fights. He is a level above the likes of Breazeale and the other bums who have been getting title shots. He could have made for a couple of interesting fights against Joshua and Fury and him against Wilder would be interesting too, if Wilder decides to come back and stops avoiding him. Hopefully he will get the rematch against Povetkin and get himself back near the head of the queue.
Quote from: Cailleach on August 24, 2020, 01:48:05 PM
It was good to see Whyte hit the canvas on Saturday night. At least now we won't have to hear about his Fury sparring stories for a while.
He's already asked for a rematch before the end of the year :D
Quote from: Juggz on August 24, 2020, 02:38:01 PM
Yeah, he's not top tier by any stretch of the imagination but he was durable (until that uppercut) and regularly involved in interesting fights. He is a level above the likes of Breazeale and the other bums who have been getting title shots. He could have made for a couple of interesting fights against Joshua and Fury and him against Wilder would be interesting too, if Wilder decides to come back and stops avoiding him. Hopefully he will get the rematch against Povetkin and get himself back near the head of the queue.
It will be interesting to see if he swayed by Joshua's post fight advice in the rematch. His punch resistance maybe diminished after that heavy knock out. He is a good gatekeeper, that has been involved in some entertaining fights, but i think fights against Fury and AJ would be fairly one sided. Although, as you mention, he does deserve his title shot considering the others who have had them.
Im a bit of a whyte fan,really wanted him to win,i genuinely think theres one big fight in him were hell catch one of the top boys.
Dubois just pounded the bejesus out of a lad 2st lighter. I rate Dubois, he's got skill, but this was ridiculous. Fights with this kind of weight difference shouldn't be allowed. There needs to be another weight above Cruiser and below Heavy and leave the 17+st giants to slug it out among themselves.
Quote from: Juggz on August 29, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Dubois just pounded the bejesus out of a lad 2st lighter. I rate Dubois, he's got skill, but this was ridiculous. Fights with this kind of weight difference shouldn't be allowed. There needs to be another weight above Cruiser and below Heavy and leave the 17+st giants to slug it out among themselves.
https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/08/17/super-cruiserweight-18th-weight-class/
About time. Interesting they brought Bellew in, he used to boil down to Super-Heavy, madness.
I see Sky did a piece on some Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue which they have dubbed the new Manny.
Anyone following this guy and if hes good as they are making out?
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12034441/the-new-manny-pacquiao-monster-naoya-inoue-has-dynamite-in-both-hands-but-must-now-captivate-an-american-audience (https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12034441/the-new-manny-pacquiao-monster-naoya-inoue-has-dynamite-in-both-hands-but-must-now-captivate-an-american-audience)
I've seen his past few fights and he is a monster, though an old Nonito Donaire did give him a decent fight.
He has ridiculous power for the lower weight classes but he's still a very technical boxer. He's already champ in 3 weight classes so it will be interesting to see how many he can go and if he can still carry the power up.
Looks pretty good on those you tube vids.
Inoue has freak power for his size and is a very good boxer too. A decent Scottish world champion went over to fight him a couple of years ago and was demolished inside a few rounds. As was said it will be interesting to see how many weight classes he can go up to.
Josh Taylor had a good win this past weekend. Crawford v Brook looks to be happening in November. Before that there is Lomachenko v Lopez to look forward to.
What a fuckin' fight! That girl is heroic, no doubt about it. I've never seen such humility from a beaten fighter afterwards either. Last round was as brutal as they come.
Quote from: Caomhaoin on May 01, 2022, 06:05:57 AM
What a fuckin' fight! That girl is heroic, no doubt about it. I've never seen such humility from a beaten fighter afterwards either. Last round was as brutal as they come.
That last round was insane. What a fight. Had everything bar a knockdown. We might get one of them in the sequel.
Taylor decision was a disgrace and shows just how corrupt boxing is. Serrano won the fight.
Quote from: mickO))) on May 05, 2022, 03:37:27 PM
Taylor decision was a disgrace and shows just how corrupt boxing is. Serrano won the fight.
Nope. 6 4 to Taylor I had it. Now it was damn close but she just edged it. Defo had first 3 rounds and 8 and 9. 10 is debatable.
I'd have given it to Serrano too, Taylor was saved by the bell at least twice. It was close alright, but if the 5th or 10th had lasted another 10 or 20 seconds, she was gone.
Quote from: Carnage on May 05, 2022, 04:45:30 PM
I'd have given it to Serrano too, Taylor was saved by the bell at least twice. It was close alright, but if the 5th or 10th had lasted another 10 or 20 seconds, she was gone.
I get ya but being saved by the bell in a round just means Serrano got the round. And Taylor defo won 5 rounds. Now she wained in the 10th near the end but got a shit load of punches off before the end of that round.
I had Serrano winning as well but over the moon KT got it. Two warriors. Had a mate calling to pull KT out in the 5th.
Smith fight was also great and a few good ones on the Stevenson v Valdez card. Great night of boxing.
Quote from: Ollkiller on May 05, 2022, 10:10:15 PM
Quote from: Carnage on May 05, 2022, 04:45:30 PM
I'd have given it to Serrano too, Taylor was saved by the bell at least twice. It was close alright, but if the 5th or 10th had lasted another 10 or 20 seconds, she was gone.
I get ya but being saved by the bell in a round just means Serrano got the round. And Taylor defo won 5 rounds. Now she wained in the 10th near the end but got a shit load of punches off before the end of that round.
The heart she showed in the last round, even when she was fading badly, it was very emotional to watch and as you said she kept throwing punches even though she was badly out in her feet. How many others would have folded like an accordion?
Controversial win? Probably, but Serrano took it heroically, pure magnanimous. She knew she'd get another go :)
Canelo v Bivol tonight. Only going one way which lines up the third GGG fight in September. Should've happened years ago. GGG is just gone 40.
And I was happily wrong. Bivol was class. Judges scored it a lot tighter than it was but Bivol was at least 8-4.
Caught the last half of it last night, was mad seeing Canelo getting battered like that, I reckon Bivol knocks him out in a rematch, too big and too good.
Don't understand what this crack is with Canelo fighting at LHW is anyway, step too far.
Ya, it looked like he could've dropped him in 11 and 12. Never seen Canelo shook like that. At no point did he look like a threat, which is mental. I'd say your right about the rematch.
Would love to see Beterbiev v Bivol. Two hard as all fuck Russians. It'd be destruction.
Anyone watch Charlo v Castano last night? Savage fight with a great end.
Ennis looking untouchable on the co-main as well.
I watched the Gilberto Ramirez vs Dominic Boesel one last night. Would love to see Ramirez tackle Canelo Alvarez. The light heavyweighs are more exciting than the heavyweights at this point.
Will have a look for that. I'd be sceptical of Canelo staying at light heavy after Bivol. Be interesting to see what he'll do next. The heavyweight has been more exciting in the last few years than it was during the Klitschko reign.
Welter is the top weight at the minute for me. Spence Jr, Bud Crawford, Ennis, Thurman, Avanesyan and Conor Benn is making good strides but he's only been fighting older boxers so we'll see how he's fixed if this Ramirez fight comes together.
Quote from: hellfire on May 15, 2022, 12:59:41 PM
I watched the Gilberto Ramirez vs Dominic Boesel one last night. Would love to see Ramirez tackle Canelo Alvarez. The light heavyweighs are more exciting than the heavyweights at this point.
Watched that there. Boesel didn't stand a chance. I think Zurdo was a mandatory for Bivol after his last fight so hopefully it happens now.
This was pretty dramatic on the undercard
https://youtu.be/qZwzKSrjrAY (https://youtu.be/qZwzKSrjrAY)
Quote from: Ollkiller on May 05, 2022, 04:28:04 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on May 05, 2022, 03:37:27 PM
Taylor decision was a disgrace and shows just how corrupt boxing is. Serrano won the fight.
Nope. 6 4 to Taylor I had it. Now it was damn close but she just edged it. Defo had first 3 rounds and 8 and 9. 10 is debatable.
Bit late to the party but that was no robbery. Not at all.
It was Taylor did not win the fight and it's not the first time it has happened either. She has had a number of questionable wins throughout her career. Like I said before those that watch boxing regularly will be aware of how corrupt the sport is.
With Persoon and to a lesser extent Serrano she would have gotten a slight advantage because of being the champion. Every champion gets it. It's not a Mafia or illuminati thing.
The champion isn't suppose to get any kind of advantage the same thing to a lesser extent goes on in MMA as well and it shouldn't. Taylor got a lot more than a slight advantage in that fight. I watched the fight in a pub full of Irish and not one person thought she deserved the win. It's all about keeping Taylors unbeaten record intact to make the next fight as big as it can possibly be. The Croke Park fight wouldn't look as good especially for people buying the PPV if she was coming off a loss.
Quote from: mickO))) on May 27, 2022, 02:44:01 PM
The champion isn't suppose to get any kind of advantage the same thing to a lesser extent goes on in MMA as well and it shouldn't. Taylor got a lot more than a slight advantage in that fight. I watched the fight in a pub full of Irish and not one person thought she deserved the win. It's all about keeping Taylors unbeaten record intact to make the next fight as big as it can possibly be. The Croke Park fight wouldn't look as good especially for people buying the PPV if she was coming off a loss.
Nah. Very close fight. Could have gone either way. As I said before Taylor had first 3 rounds and then 8 and 9. The rematch should be stellar whenever it happens.
I doubt a rematch will happen the Croke Park fight will most likely be her last if that fight even does end up happening and I can't see Eddie Hearn setting up with a rematch with Serrano after the way the first fight went.
Ya, I saw Hearn mention Holly Holm for Croke Park.
As for the corruption, it's long since regarded as the most corrupt sport in the world. I'm not convinced she won but it's the game. Sickening at times like the Taylor v Catterall fight a few months back. Even watching Canelo get schooled a few weeks back I was shitting it Bivol would be robbed.
Benavidez was a wrecking machine last weekend. Canelo will no doubt continue to dodge him and then retire. Looking forward to Davis v Romero tomorrow.
Ah there will be a rematch. Too much money to ve made.
KT will make the bag regardless. She'd sell out Croke Park regardless of opponent.
As an aside, does anyone follow Tyan Booth's channel TYFL on youtube? Hilarious bastard. Drier than Stewart Lee.
The Inoue V Donaire rematch is on Tuesday.
Beterbiev v Joe Smith Jr tonight. Beterbiev should destroy him and hopefully we'll then get Beterbiev v Bivol.
Yep. This was a stupid match up. Smith went the distance with Bivol so my money is firmly on Beterbiev if that fight comes together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOOc7qv49mE
Really hope Joshua wins tomorrow I can't stand Usyk. Serious night tomorrow KSW, Glory, UFC, PFL, BKFC London and the boxing. The Broner fight was cancelled.
All for Usyk here. The first fight was a masterclass. AJ obviously has to bring a lot more to this but I figure Usyk will be ready for him. Should be a belter.
Working tomorrow night which is a sickener.
Yep rootint for Usyk too, reckon he knocks him out, just too technical, he's like a robot that was built to box.
Never really liked Joshua, always felt like he was too media trained for Sky Sports to push.
Just watched the highlights. State of AJ at the end. Fuck sake. Pathetic.
Shouldn't have done what he did but his emotions got the better of him. People have been shitting on him for years for no reason and he had Usyk a load of times in the fight but just couldn't get the finish. Usyk did not look good last night and if Fury comes for him like he said he would last night Usyk hasn't a hope.
Fury's has until the 30th of this month to confirm if he will defend his titles or if he is going to retire so we should get an answer on this very soon.
Leon Edwards more than made up for Joshua what a win delighted for him and delighted that prick Usman has finally been silenced. Was almost like a scripted movie the way he won. One of the best knockouts in UFC history.
Doesn't matter if he had him at any point if he can't get the finish. Not a fan anyway and last night did less than nothing to change that. Leave him off.
Fury will fight I'd say. He was more than likely re-announcing his retirement to fuck with AJ and Usyk.
GGG v Canelo 3 tonight. Hope GGG does it but it's a sad excuse for a trilogy given the timeline and previous decision controversies.
Alvarez is damaged beyond repair if he loses. He's such a cocky bastard even by boxing standards that you have to love him though.
Really think people started writing Canelo Alvarez off too soon. Even the greats lose sometimes. He's far from washed up.
Alright last 3 rounds but generally shite enough. Wonder how quickly they'll get this Bivol rematch together. Wanna see that. Canelo talking about surgery though.
Didn't see the fight wanted to stay up but haven't been sleeping well over the last few weeks and just couldn't make it. Would have been very surprised if Triple G won. Not sure why people are dismissing Canelo after he lost one fight on a decision and only the second loss of his entire career the other being to Mayweather.
The Fury fight in December is dumb will most likely be Joshuas last fight after he loses. The Wilder vs. Helenius fight next month is a great matchup will defo be watching that one live.
Was suppose to go to Fury fest in Belfast last Saturday but it was cancelled because of the Queen dying (or at least thats the official excuse) they have said it will be rescheduled but with the Joshua fight just announced I can't see it happening again until early next if they even do bother to reschedule.
Quote from: mickO))) on September 21, 2022, 01:54:24 PMDidn't see the fight wanted to stay up but haven't been sleeping well over the last few weeks and just couldn't make it. Would have been very surprised if Triple G won. Not sure why people are dismissing Canelo after he lost one fight on a decision and only the second loss of his entire career the other being to Mayweather.
Anyone who following boxing closely should not have been too surprised that Bivol beat Canelo. He's a very slick, big and strong Boxer. A faded Kovalev
gave Canelo a hard enough time. Now having talked up Bivol he will probably lose to Ramirez. :laugh:
I stayed up for the trilogy fight. It has been clear for a while Golovkin is not what he once was. So the result was not unexpected to me.
He still should have too much for the likes of Eubank jr though.
Watching the Katie Taylor undercard at the moment. Women's flyweight boxing ranks as one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Lomachenko won last night. Hopefully he will face Haney next.
Watched the first 5 rounds of Katie on the phone at work. She looked comfortable. Kiko Martinez in another great win as well on the card.
Gonna watch Loma now.
Loma def nowhere near peak but a very enjoyable fight. Hope we get the Haney fight
Going to be a nightmare trying to get tickets to this next fight in Croke Park especially with ticketmasters new dynamic pricing bullshit.
Hadn't thought of that. Cuntish. May TM die fuckin roaring.
I didn't know about dynamic pricing at all. They are basically a giant touting organisation.
Bivol was unreal last night.
Bivol v Berbetiev is the fight to be made. :abbath:
If Usyk ever came down in weight again I would like to see him fight Bivol or Berbetiev.
Enjoyed the fight on Saturday much better than the shitty card the UFC put on.
Eubank Jr v Liam Smith should be good on Saturday. Hoping for Smith to win as I strongly dislike Jr.
Beterbiev v Yarde next week. Shouldn't be an issue for Beterbiev but Yarde is a hard hitter. Still holding out for the Bivol fight.
Shit enough card but Riakporhe and my new hero Liam Smith made it worth while. He destroyed Eubank Jr. Hate the cunt so delighted.
https://www.matchroomboxing.com/events/taylor-vs-serrano-2/
No venue announced yet but may not be Croke Park as the GAA were crying the other day and didn't want it held there.
They've pretty much settled on the Three Arena. I'll have a bash at getting a ticket but it will be much tighter than if it were Croke Park. Apparently Croke Park was three times more expensive than Wembley. If there's one talent Irish people have it's screwing people for money.
Where did you see Croke Park was crying that they didn't want it? Everything else I've seen is to the contrary.
Croker is 400k, Wembley is between 250k and 300k. Security is then another 500k, which Hearn won't pay. McGregor has offered to sponsor it. She deserves to fight in Croker. She won't be going too much longer.
Heard it on the radio earlier this week. Someone was on saying the GAA don't want the fight to be held there so they are making crazy demands to make sure it doesn't happen.
3 Arena will be a joke it will be either impossible to get tickets or the dynamic pricing will push ticket prices out of most peoples reach.
If she wins this she will most likely retire after it. Wasn't she going to retire already last year but then was talked into having a fight in Dublin.
Absolutely Micko, I desperately want to go but reducing the venue to somewhere that will only hold a fraction of the current demand really puts that in doubt.
That could've been some fucker just ringing in to have their say. 3Arena is essentially a tenth of the cap. It's an insult. Venue not confirmed and Hearn said he's considering McGregor's offer. Embarrassing carry on. Nothing new there. As if boxing isn't messy enough, throw ireland into the equation and it goes into overload.
Hearn reiterated that it won't be in Croke Park after the Serrano fight last night. Katie showed up after the fight to confirm the rematch. It's an insult to both of them to have it in Three arena. They last met in Madison Square Garden for fuck sake.
Yeah it was some fella they had on the radio show for an interview no idea who he was so yes could have been anyone. But I was always of the impression that the GAA were very difficult to deal with when anyone wanted to host anything other than a GAA event in Croke Park.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/boxing/hearn-conor-mcgregor-taylor-croke-29136738
Hearn seems to say otherwise here. He's a fucking shitebox anyway but doesn't seem off the table yet.
Ali fought in Croker back in the 70s so it's not without precedent. I guess we'll see.
Saw earlier on that the Dublin fight is cancelled.
Tickets for KT are 80e to 750e. Gonna be tough to get. Haney fighting Loma in Vegas that night as well, which should be a great fight.
Hope AJ gets beat and retires on Saturday. Been spammed by the cunt all week. Hearn is really pushing the PR.
Will try to get tickets but don't have much hope I reckon fuck all of the cheaper ones will be available most will be held back and touted by Ticketmaster. This event will be a goldmine for them.
Did they not bring in a law a few years ago that made selling tickets for anything over face value illegal in Ireland? I know these rules would apply to us and not Ticketmaster but I have been trying to get tickets for Peter Kay over the last few weeks and the cheapest resale tickets I have seen were €77 even though tickets were originally only 40 something.
Have always liked Fury even though the dosser shite got annoying really quickly. I don't like Usyk but the way Fury has behaved over the last few weeks is disgraceful and he has lost a lot of fans over it. Fair play to Usyk for agreeing to the 70/30 split but even that wasn't enough to make the fight happen.
Ya, it's gonna be tricky. Outside of TM which will be bad enough, the prices are going to be insane.
I like them both but def think Fury is acting the cunt. The two AJ fights were made easily, as well as Usyk accepting the 70/30 split so it's definitely on the Fury end.
Thought Usyk's wife calling him the gypsy queen was gas.
Saw the first 2 and the last 6 rounds of the AJ fight. Messy shite. Nothing said about him holding the back of the head in the clinch and 3 taps after the bell in 3 separate rounds. Fury, Wilder and Whyte would all take him. The first 2 easily.
Got two tickets fairly easily this morning. Went for the cheapest ones so shite seats but it will still be great.
Ticketmaster has been a fuckin nightmare. No luck yet.
I think the presale sold out after a few minutes. I went on a few times after I got my tickets to check if I got lucky or if it wasn't selling as fast as expected and I was never able to get any tickets up again in any of the price ranges.
Joshua fight was shite. I can see Fury taking the Joshua fight now next cause it will be an easy win and even though it will be shite it will sell very well.
Ticketmaster and Eddie Hearn. What a combo!? I have a few more avenues to try so still hopeful.
Glad you got sorted anyway.
Cheers. Hopefully you get sorted. Main sale is 10am on Wednesday I think.
Great stuff from Shakur Stevenson last night. He's a wrecking machine. Calling out Haney is completely underestimating Loma. That should be a good scrap.
Flicked over to the last 6 rounds of Bam Rodriguez after. Gonzalez made it awkward with all his moving so none of the usual angles from Bam but enjoyed it and a good win for Bam.
Joyce's lack of head movement got exposed last night. Zhang is a decent boxer and can hit hard. Based on the evidence of last night i think Joyce would be beaten soundly beaten by likes of Fury, Usyk and Joshua if he ever faced them. Wilder if he hit him clean would probably knock him out too.
Reading the I Am Duran book at the moment. Rewatching some of his old fights too. A nice fella if you know him socially, five feet seven inches of evil if you didn't.
Have watched a few of his fights on the tubes alright but need to do a right dive. Incredible fighter anyway.
Looking forward to Davis v Garcia tonight. Hard one to call with all the weight/rehydration carry on. Can't see Tank getting knocked out but would like to see Garcia get the win. Don't actually care who wins.
Anyone watch BKFC last night? Great to see Dat Nguyen back and BKFC Leeds is on this evening.
Great night of sport tonight. Garcia Vs Davis, UFC, Bellator, BKFC and KSW.
Quote from: open face surgery on April 22, 2023, 12:53:36 PMHave watched a few of his fights on the tubes alright but need to do a right dive. Incredible fighter anyway.
I'd recommend The Modern Martial Artist and Joseph Vincent (Bored Films) channels on YouTube for checking him and a good few others out.
Canelo tonight. Looking forward to it although I think they are picking easier fights for him since the Bivol upset.
Ryder did well to go the distance. They wanted an easy come back for him after the wrist surgery. He said he is keen to take on Bivol again.
I think it will be the same outcome as the first fight. The loss was only an upset if you were unaware of Bivol's ability prior to the fight.
Yep. Ryder stuck it out. I'm 99% that Bivol destroys Canelo again.
Good night of boxing. Katie did well, Cully defeat was a shocker, good wins for Carty and Agyarko, and Loma was robbed.
Seats for the Taylor fight turned out to be great. Usually get much better seats for Bellator and you end up moving between the screen and the cage while watching but didn't have to look at screen once last night. Disappointing ending but Cameron deserved it and who knows if Katie won she may have retired.
Atmosphere in the arena was amazing best I have ever seen at an event like this and I have been 2 big UFC PPVs, 5 or 6 Bellators and last night was my third 'large scale' boxing event.
Annoying to see that wank stain Ariel there he is basically the combat sports equivalent of metalsucks. Could of done without Mc Gregor as well.
Was too tired to watch the Lomachenko fight fell asleep during the second fight on the main card.
Looking forward to the Conlan fight now next week
Edit: Did anyone else go to the Taylor fight and see the shadow boxing camera they had in between fights? It has to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen. I had water coming out of my eyes I was laughing that much when looking around at the crowd every time it came on.
To correct my last comment, Loma wasn't robbed but he won by a round or two. It was a great scrap.
Would've still liked to have gone to KT and living 5 minutes away was annoying.
Had to google the Ariel fella. Top story was fans being able to meet him at The Black Forge and next was him giving an "honest review" of the new McGregor show. Slight conflict of interests :laugh: McGregor landed in just before the Hogan fight. He actually distracted him at one point getting up and shouting. Also, had Liam Smith moved a row back, who was there from when I started watching, which was the Donovan fight.
Ariel is a prick he use to always try to stir shit up between fighters to get clicks and likes. Rampage Jackson, Nick Diaz and a load of others hate him. Then a few years ago he leaked that Brock Lesnar was coming back at UFC 200 before the UFC got to make the official announcement so after that Dana banned him from the UFC for life. Then recently he was also let go by ESPN but seems to now have found his way onto Dazn.
I didn't like the way they put McGregor up on the big screen when he was entering the area. It was Katies night not his. I have never seen that done before for someone who wasn't fighting on the night. He also did a lap around the area in that area that sells the pints but was surrounded by his personal security who just kept pushing people out of the way as he walked by.
Ya, I had clocked the way he was walking through was from the opposite end to where he came in the artist's door. Sickening cunt at this stage.
Yeah I never liked him even back when he started and I always use to get the "sure how can you not like him he's Irish" shit. Now everyone I know that loved him can't stand him.
Crawford made easy work of Spence Jr. Fought a perfect fight.
I have been saying it for a while now that Usyk is overhyped and last night proved it. Dubois was robbed. I agree with the commentators a Fury fight being agreed to looks a lot more likely now after his performance last night.
Aragh, would ya stop with that robbed shite!? If it had gone to the count Usyk would've been up. I do think it was right on the belt so it's the ref's call. Shite fight anyway. Dubois is not a contender. His previous fights the weirdest I've seen since Malignaggi getting his dreads cut off between rounds. My theory is that Usyk fought like that, which was lacklustre, in a ploy to get the Fury fight. Maybe clutching at straws but there it is none the less
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=556E2pxAxCI
Not sure if it's done on purpose, but it's common enough to see elite boxers give underwhelming performances only to step it up against top competition, sure Fury himself has had a few shite fights against cans.
Should be a good fight if it happens.
Usyk needed nothing to beat Dubois.
Usyk was lackluster in the rematch against Joshua as well. Yes the low blow was the refs call but rolling around pretending to have been hit in the balls was Usyks call he clearly played up the low blow and robbed Dubois of the victory. Hopefully he gets the rematch but with the way boxing currently is I doubt he will.
Still beat him comfortably in that. Ya, his reaction was strange but he's a strange guy and, as I said, had he been given the count, he would've been up. I don't want to see a rematch and I don't think one is warranted.
You also have to think if he had of got up and beaten the count how would the rest of the round have went? This happened 20 seconds into the round so they still would had another 2 and half minutes to go. Anyone who has ever done any kind of boxing will tell you that a body shot that is powerful enough to drop a person is unbearably painful. Judging by Usyks reaction on impact to the shot I think if he had of beaten the count Dubois would have been in a great position to get the finish.
I do agree more than likely Usyk will easily win a rematch but I think even just for the sake of fairness Dubois deserves one.
I'm all about body shots and know well the power they have. I just don't rate Dubois so I find it hard to see him doing anything.
As much as I dislike Eubank Jr., he made easy work of Smith from the few rounds I saw.
Presale tickets for the Taylor rematch on sale now. Managed to get them again.
I was not expecting much from Francis and Fury but I was happy that Francis was finally getting the payday he deserves. Have always been a big fan of him the UFC. But that turned out to be a great fight and I think Francis should have got the decision. It was very close.
Not a good result for Boxing at all, Francis looked very impressive. A bit late age wise but if he can get his cardio up to scratch he could have some decent fights in Boxing.
There was no way Ngannou was ever going to get his hand raised in this, not with the huge money on the line for the reunification fight. I don't want to take away from Ngannou's performance but Fury looked terrible and somewhat flabby. I can only assume he didn't do much training. It's either that or he has rapidly declined.
Like it or not Ngannou made a fool out of him. If there was a rematch then I'd imagine Fury would be far more prepared.
I think Ngannou is the bees knees. I would much prefer to see him in an MMA fight with the small gloves smashing people.
The Overeem knockout. Sweet Lord.
Anyway. I hope it shuts up Fury's father for a while.
The whole John Fury thing looks like an act it is all part of the fixed fight, youtube / Jake Paul script to get hype going around these fights. He never acts up like that during any of Tysons proper fights. It will be a suit and tie now for the Usyk fight if Fury doesn't pull out which is starting to look likely. I will be pissed if that fight is postponed it was great it being 2 days before Christmas.
Thought the fight was shite but props to Ngannou, he brought it to him. Wouldn't have been surprised it he had his hand raised but, as someone said, that was never going to happen. Stupid fight and Warren trying to put off 23rd of Dec due to the cut on Fury's forehead. It's a nip.
Quote from: mickO))) on October 29, 2023, 12:53:20 PMThe whole John Fury thing looks like an act it is all part of the fixed fight, youtube / Jake Paul script to get hype going around these fights. He never acts up like that during any of Tysons proper fights. It will be a suit and tie now for the Usyk fight if Fury doesn't pull out which is starting to look likely. I will be pissed if that fight is postponed it was great it being 2 days before Christmas.
Yeah I was looking forward to it being two days before Christmas as well. You could tell from Warren's reaction after the fight that they were not going to stick to that date. It now seems to be scheduled for February next year. Although the way things are going I have my doubts it will happen at all, but given the huge purses involved it probably will.
They were obviously expecting Ngannou to be a tune up and now he needs a full, intensive camp. I do think, and hope, it'll happen.
So, silly season continues with Joshua and Ngannou. Ngannou is a weapon, and he gave a good account of himself against Fury, but could this be another potential embarassment a la Ruiz for Joshua? Who knows, and really who cares at this stage? And now we have another monumental farce on our hands with Paul v Tyson. This ridiculous fad shows no sign of abating.
Quote from: John Kimble on March 08, 2024, 06:35:47 PMAnd now we have another monumental farce on our hands with Paul v Tyson. This ridiculous fad shows no sign of abating.
The Jake Paul thing was dying down as most are now well aware that his fights are fixed. I don't watch him myself but you would usually hear and see stuff about him during fight week. I only found out yesterday that he fought last weekend. Shame to see Mike Tyson shitting on his legacy like this and competing in a fixed fight he can join Nate, Silva, Askren and Woodley as the bums who sold out for a quick buck.
Quote from: John Kimble on March 08, 2024, 06:35:47 PMSo, silly season continues with Joshua and Ngannou. Ngannou is a weapon, and he gave a good account of himself against Fury, but could this be another potential embarassment a la Ruiz for Joshua? Who knows, and really who cares at this stage? And now we have another monumental farce on our hands with Paul v Tyson. This ridiculous fad shows no sign of abating.
I can see Ngannou taking it too. If it goes to a decision AJ might have a chance.
Quote from: hellfire on March 08, 2024, 09:43:03 PMQuote from: John Kimble on March 08, 2024, 06:35:47 PMSo, silly season continues with Joshua and Ngannou. Ngannou is a weapon, and he gave a good account of himself against Fury, but could this be another potential embarassment a la Ruiz for Joshua? Who knows, and really who cares at this stage? And now we have another monumental farce on our hands with Paul v Tyson. This ridiculous fad shows no sign of abating.
I can see Ngannou taking it too. If it goes to a decision AJ might have a chance.
Jaysus, that post didn't age well. Joshua gave in a perfect performance.
Quote from: hellfire on March 09, 2024, 12:42:36 AMQuote from: hellfire on March 08, 2024, 09:43:03 PMQuote from: John Kimble on March 08, 2024, 06:35:47 PMSo, silly season continues with Joshua and Ngannou. Ngannou is a weapon, and he gave a good account of himself against Fury, but could this be another potential embarassment a la Ruiz for Joshua? Who knows, and really who cares at this stage? And now we have another monumental farce on our hands with Paul v Tyson. This ridiculous fad shows no sign of abating.
I can see Ngannou taking it too. If it goes to a decision AJ might have a chance.
Jaysus, that post didn't age well. Joshua gave in a perfect performance.
Realistically that's how the Fury fight should have went too. Ngannou shouldn't stand any chance whatsoever against pro boxers, never mind the best pro boxers.
Yeah easy money for Joshua.
Tyson will be fighting Jake Paul later in the year.
Went down like a sack of shite.
Quote from: DaveG on March 09, 2024, 10:30:43 PMWent down like a sack of shite.
Was a great slap.
I don't think this is necessarily the right thread but the young lad just told me that Jake Paul and Mike tyson are going to scrap.
What's the consensus on that? I think there will be serious money made no matter what but I would also like to see Mike break a face just this one last time. Sorry for letting this off in the boxing thread but ah fuck it as well It's all gone a bit world wrestling as it is anyway
Fuck all of it. Friday night was a joke and as much as I dislike AJ, he dealt with it in the correct fashion, as Fury should've. Hopefully Tyson does the same thing to Jake Paul and we end this fuckin nonsense. Boxing is enough of a circus without adding this. Parker Zhang was terrible as well and Ball Vargas was bizarre. Annoyed I tuned in at all.
Tyson won't do anything to Paul because in order for the fight to be agreed Jakes opponents have to agree to a pre-determined outcome. That is one of the reasons why Andrew Tate didn't go ahead with the fight they were suppose to have about 2 years ago and he has said many times that to even get into talks with either of the Paul brothers you have to sign a confidentiality agreement that you can't publicly speak about what terms are in the contract. This is also why Paul had to lose to Tommy Fury because too many people were copping onto what was really going on.
The fight will most likely go the distance with all the usual suspects saying how great Paul did and he is still the real deal. As much of a money whore as Mike Tyson is I can't see them being able to offer him a big enough amount of money to take a loss in this fight. He looked shite in that Roy Jones Jnr fight a few years ago.
As much as I hate both brothers at least Logan is being honest about his make believe fights now that he is in the WWF.
I hate watching Zhang. He has incredible power and nothing else. He has to be spoon fed an opportunity and until he is does fuck all. Opponents have to spend the whole fight being overly cautious of one blow. The whole thing makes for a grim watch. I was 100% wrong on Ngannou. I thought having essentially beaten Fury on points he had some credibility. Getting planted the way he did put that to rest. Why did he think it was a good idea to switch stance in the first the way he did? Who knows.
I really thought Ngannou had more than a punchers chance. I think if he landed a wallop on AJ in a similar way he would have put him to sleep.
It was a technically great strike.
When it landed it was like the strings were cut on a puppet.
Jake Paul and Iron Mike!!
It's a lose lose situation for everyone bar the pay check. I hope Tyson bates the head off him but I also hope I win the Lotto. Hasn't happened yet.
As they've shown before it's a moneymaking light sparring session. Nobody will be getting beat up. Expect a ton of shit talk before followed by thanks for the opportunity after.
True but I hope Tyson whips one of those life changing shots into that fools kidneys.
Been a good night so far. Really looking forward to this fight now. First unified heavyweight title fight since 1999 according to Frank Warren.
All the boot licking from the fighters earlier on the card and the celebrities who are being paid to attend towards those rich Saudis is sicking though.
Great fight, close but with the kd it swung Usyk's way, thought the size difference was too much in those middle rounds but he found a way to hurt him.
Delighted Usyk won. That wallop he landed in round 9 would have killed other people.
Not sure if he could do it again though.
The post fight stuff from Fury of no excuses but blah blah. I'm sure they'll get a shitload of money for the rematch.
Great fight. Wanted Usyk to win but my gut was saying Fury. That was confirmed in the middle rounds, I thought, but then Usyk played a fuckin blinder. Delighted with the win. I'd be even more impressed if Usyk wins the rematch. If Fury comes forward more and has more concentration, he should do it.
Cacace was great as well.
Didn't watch it last night but having looked at the replay I'd be amazed if Fury didn't win the rematch.
The couple of ye who wanted Usyk to win, why is that?
Was there a good few people in Ireland thinking the same I wonder. Probably to do with Furys personal politics or something?
I think the shite he came out with after the fight speaks to his character. Seriously just fuck up - say you thought you won the fight, move on.
I find him fundamentally unlikeable.
Quote from: 91/30 on May 20, 2024, 10:07:24 AMThe couple of ye who wanted Usyk to win, why is that?
Was there a good few people in Ireland thinking the same I wonder. Probably to do with Furys personal politics or something?
Nothing to do at all with Fury's politics or anything like that for me.
Usyk just looks like he is there for the win and then go home. No clown acting like Fury.
Don't get me wrong. Fury is entertaining but I prefer Usyk.
Quote from: 91/30 on May 20, 2024, 10:07:24 AMThe couple of ye who wanted Usyk to win, why is that?
Was there a good few people in Ireland thinking the same I wonder. Probably to do with Furys personal politics or something?
I don't like Usky and wanted Fury to win even though all the delays on the previous fights because of Fury pissed me off. This was a big fight so a lot of people who don't watch boxing would have tuned in who wouldn't even be aware of Fury's politics. Some people just don't like him. Fury should win the rematch and then that sets up a trilogy.
I wanted Usyk because he is a much better boxer to watch, came up through cruiser and went on to beat AJ twice against the odds, and as the considerably smaller fighter. His amateur record is also impeccable.
Fury is a fuckin melt though, and I hope his father dies in a caravan fire.
Taylor Catterall 2 was absolutely incredible. Tighter than the cards but the right man won after the total robbery 2 years ago.
https://youtu.be/dxypNPkc_SU?si=mYqrbn0Qpblp7bmQ
Can't wait for this on Saturday. A few good fights on the undercard as well.
Anyone else watching/waiting for this circus? I can't see anything happening other than Paul hurting Tyson in the first round.
Jesus Katie Taylor's walkout music has to be some of the worst I've ever heard.
How are they letting this go on, serrano's eyelid is hanging off :o
Bullshit result, Serrano hammered Taylor.
Yeah I don't know a single thing about boxing but looked like she was getting thrown around the whole 10 rounds? Is there a technical aspect I'm missing as to how she would have won?
She threw a lot of punches but Serrano landed more and with more impact IMO. I know there are a few boxers on here who might shed more light on it but to me it looked like a Serrano win all the way.
Quote from: Mithrandir on November 16, 2024, 03:36:22 AMJesus Katie Taylor's walkout music has to be some of the worst I've ever heard.
What was it, I couldn't hear it?
That was worse than I thought it'd be. At least everybody got paid.
Quote from: Carnage on November 16, 2024, 04:48:02 AMQuote from: Mithrandir on November 16, 2024, 03:36:22 AMJesus Katie Taylor's walkout music has to be some of the worst I've ever heard.
What was it, I couldn't hear it?
I didn't recognize it but couldn't have been more anticlimactic, slow as fuck and not in an emotional or epic way just completely flat.
Symblomatic of the fight so. Serrano hammered her, joke result.
Quote from: Carnage on November 16, 2024, 04:48:02 AMQuote from: Mithrandir on November 16, 2024, 03:36:22 AMJesus Katie Taylor's walkout music has to be some of the worst I've ever heard.
What was it, I couldn't hear it?
Didn't hear it. Barry McGuigan said one time he was going to come out to Horslips 'Sword of Light', don't know if he ever did
Tyson vs Paul. What an absolute joke of a fight.
Serrano was robbed. Taylor won 3 rounds. Serrano won the rest. Taylors game plan was all wrong again. She has vastly quicker hand speed but stood in front of serrano most of the fight. I think at 38 she dosent have the gas any more.
I've heard people walking to the guillotine with livelier music, also how the fuck was Taylor judged to have won that?
The Tyson fight was a pitiful thing to watch, the best thing was his unintended ass display :laugh:
All the Paul's brothers fights are fixed. Sad to see Mike agreeing to a fixed fight to make a quick buck making a mockery of the sport that made him and sad to see Katie being part of it after she was publicly calling the youtube boxing out for the joke that it is only 2 years ago.
Knew it would be a farce so didn't bother with it. Name your price really.
Quote from: Carnage on November 16, 2024, 04:19:42 AMBullshit result, Serrano hammered Taylor.
State of it. No way Taylor won that
People should be staying up tonight instead for the biggest fight in MMA history Stipe Vs Bones.
I just can't see Miocic beating Jones despite what my heart thinks.
It's one of those fights where I don't want either to lose as I am a big fan of both but I think Stipe is too old now. The head on Stipe at the presser he looked like he had just come out of winter hibernation. Sure he was walking with a cane looking like he had a hip replacement this time last year at MSG.
It would be heartbreaking if Jon finishes him the same way he finsihed Gane. If I had to choose I would hope Stipe wins because a loss for him is 100% retirement (Even if he wins he may retire unless he looks unbelievable) but if Jon loses he will have no choice but to come back and fight again.
Co-main will be great as well.
I know what you mean, I don't meant to see Jones run through him on the first round.
Apparently Chandler has a new game plan of pacing and picking his shots for this rematch.
I think he will forget that and go bananas when the bell rings.
I hope Chandler demolishes Oliveria. Chandler is one of the most likeable fighters of all time. It was so bad to see the crowd booing him over Olveria at the presser and weigh-ins.
Jones is too good. It seems like they can't do anything in there to stop him. I think Aspinall is great but if he gets the Jones fight he is going to be up against something the likes of which he has never faced.
Chandler would brawl with himself if he could !
Sad to see Stipe's last fight going like that after the career he has had. He seemed to be too heavy and too slow. I can't stand Aspinall myself too mouthy and as Jon said just another Johnny Walker he will be gone once the hype train dies down. I would much prefer Periera vs Jon instead.
It was awful seeing Chandler so close again to beating Oliveria but just not having enough left to do it.
On the positive side we will finally see Ian Garry being silenced in December.
That was some finish from Johnny Bones ,Miocic looked beaten after round one, shame he's (Miocic) retired but probably for the best rather than hanging around like other fighters past their peak.
I havent seen all of Aspinalls fights but I dont see him troubling Jones. He probably should get his shot seeing as he's an interm champ.
The Jones Pereira fight if it happens should be great.
Nice Bruce Lee quote from Jones after the fight.
"Bruce Lee says that he doesn't fear the man that knows 10,000 kicks, but the man who has worked one kick 10,000 times,"
Aspinall hasn't beaten anyone of any merit except for Sergei who before Aspinall beat him last year was who the hype was all around. If you don't like Tom like me you can easily argue the Sergei win was extremely lucky, nearly as lucky as McGregor was against Aldo plus it was a short notice fight. Then on the other side you can also argue that Tom beat the fella who looked unbeatable and also took the fight on short notice. Look at Sergei since then lost to a mediocre Volkov so maybe he was already on the decline when he fought Tom.
If Tom beat Gane then I could maybe start seeing the other side of the argument. What Jon said is right every so often a new prospect will come up, he's the best, he's going to beat Jon and then when Jon beats them people go quiet until the next prospect appears so he really doesn't gain anything from fighting Tom. The main reason Tom was given than interim title was to stop him from throwing a tantrum. It's very annoying to see him over the last few weeks coming out on almost a daily basis mouthing about Jon doing all he can to stay relevant.
Is there not an MMA thread?
Whats the point of two separate threads when the only time most people post in this is when either Katie Taylor is fighting or a big Tyson Fury type fight has happened? This thread gets a handful of posts a year and the MMA thread hasn't been posted in since 2022.
Probably should be merged in here.
Just resurrect the MMA one.
Another savage fight promo from the sketchy Saudis:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDDKIbGtHUM/?igsh=bHNneGZudDNqZGNn
Hard one to call this, will be rooting for Usyk but you have to wonder how he'll do if he can't land THAT shot in this fight, felt even when he was doing well early his punches were just sort of bouncing off Fury and Fury started to take over.
Ya, if Fury had his head in the game for the first one he should've made easy work with the extra reach. When he started getting shots off I thought it was over.
Same as that anyway, always shouting for Usyk
Definitely going for Usyk too, but I just can't help but have the feeling that if he wants to be, Fury is just a little out of his league. I'm not sure Fury's head is quite in the game anymore, but if he can get it back and shows up properly conditioned I have a feeling he may absolutely tank him.
Great fight.
Thought Fury done well but just wasn't landing enough big shots throughout, Usyk is a beast.
The atmosphere at these Saudi fights is fucking awful though.
Ya, great fight. I thought it was a bit closer but def Usyk. Undercard was shite enough. Fisher was blessed cause he lost that. Be interesting to see if Moses can go into the deep waters.
Only got round to watching it yesterday but yeah, good fight...predictably enough Fury, Warren et al will say they were hard done by but it was evident that Usyk did enough. Probably a bit closer than the scorecard suggested though. Boxing is a difficult sport to score though, particularly when it goes the full distance...short of getting the knockout there's a lot open to interpretation.
Looking predetermined but I was hoping Serrano would come through this with some dignity. Sure take the cheque and go home.
Missed the fight last night as I was waiting for my IPTV renew and that didn't happen until this morning. Hopefully she deserved the win this time.
Mick Conlan fighting in the 3 Arena September 5th tickets are very reasonably prices considering what I paid for some of his previous fights in Belfast.
Quote from: mickO))) on July 12, 2025, 01:31:29 PMMissed the fight last night as I was waiting for my IPTV renew and that didn't happen until this morning. Hopefully she deserved the win this time.
Mick Conlan fighting in the 3 Arena September 5th tickets are very reasonably prices considering what I paid for some of his previous fights in Belfast.
Yes she deserved the decision this time. As you alluded to she is lucky not to have one or two losses on her record. Still she's a great fighter nonetheless.
She's had a few lucky decisions over the years. Terrible fight anyway but fair play to her.
Usyk Dubois tonight should be good. Dubois is growing in confidence on the back of a few good wins but still can't see him beating Usyk.
Manny Pacquio back in the ring tonight at 46. Tall ask but would be great to see. Fundora Tsyzu 2 should be good on that card as well. Pitbull has had a change of opponent but always enough watching his pure warrior fights.
Dubois and his team should have listened to Usyk's warning about pushing the horses.
It's a poor strategy to try and unsettle Usyk with allegations of cheating. For someone like Usyk that's not happening.
It only made him more determined to silence Dubois and his team.
Parker deserves his chance now, but I can't see him beating Usyk. There is no heavyweight around today that can. The only way he loses is if he sticks around too long.
Dubois had no place being in against Usyk. May have missed it but Usyk didn't have anything to say about Dubois afterwards.
Some other great fights on Saturday night. Ammo Williams against a replacement Ivan Vaquez was class. Yer man who usually does 6 rounders got to the 9th and was great.
Pitbull destroyed his stand in. Love watching him.
Figueroa Gonzalez was mental. 1900 punches thrown with 10 jabs between them. Thought Gonzalez won it.
Bam Rodriguez showing he is def top 5 p4p against Cafu and then fell asleep during Manny Barrios.
Crocker Donovan was disappointing. Crocker fought a shit defensive fight and didn't deserve the win despite the 2 knockdown.
Callum Walsh did well but didn't get out of second gear. More to come from him.
Crawford was simply amazing. Great fight.
Ricky Hatton found dead in the gaff. Sad stuff.
Shit buzz about Hatton. That "...not suspicious" Police line usually signals an extra-tragic layer to things.