I'm a bit not interested in music as much as in past years/decades. There's too many ways of listening to music from free to expensive, and in many ways there's far too much music these days.
Does anyone have a system to maintain some level of interaction with music, but it's maybe inbetween just telling Alexa to play 90s thrash or whatever, and having masses of cds or vinyl etc?
is there a middle ground where you don't have to abandon it all completely, but you don't have shelves of stuff you can't find the time to listen to?
There is no answer to your impossible question.
I had hoped others had found a way to make their music experience more condensed without losing it altogether. I know it's a hard thing to give suggestions for
I've been finding it very hard to listen to music in the same way that I did 20 years ago before the iPod and streaming. I don't seem to be able to sit and get to know a record anymore. I'll give new albums a go but very rarely do they get "worn out" like records of my youth that I know back to front. There are some exceptions Sleep's "The Sciences", Causa Sui's "Euporie Tide", Elder's "Lore", the last two Idles records, the Fontaines DC album and "Luminiferous" by High On Fire come to mind. But, in general, I listen to a record and then move on - unless it's very good. Even then I might end up forgetting about it.
I think part of this is the sheer amount of music that is now available literally at one's fingertips. Back in the 90s, I'd have enough money at the end of the week to buy 2 or 3 records. You can to make it count too, cos you'd be stuck with them. Hours spent agonising over what to buy... When I started earning decent money I was able to buy a lot more records but you'd still want to make sure you were buying the best. Then you'd go home and listen to them. Actually listen to them, over and over again. Someone might call over and you'd put it on for them to listen to too.
When access to music became easier - downloading albums passed me by completely but borrowing CDs to rip to iTunes, streaming etc. - I noticed that my attention span got shorter and shorter. I'd find myself flicking to the next song or wondering about a different record etc. Or, more recently, scrolling through my phone.
To your point; I listen to a lot (most) of new music on streaming services now - to combat the spacing out (and have decent sound) - I bought a couple of Sonos units and set them up around the house -including a stereo chain in the living room. I pick a record on Spotify/Bandcamp and then put my phone on a shelf furthest away from where I sit. This has definitely helped the situation. I can now listen to a record and have to get up and walk across the room to change it, like the old days.
The past few weeks I have been doing some work on the house so I've been picking a record (a physical copy) from my collection and putting it on my stereo. I still know every note of "Appetite For Destruction", "The Holy Bible", "London Calling", "Vol. 4", "Angel Dust", etc. etc. I don't think that will ever happen for me again.
You want to get rid of your collection. Easy solution. You want to keep listening to music so what are you left with- downloading and streaming. You don't want to be overloaded with downloads? Don't download loads of stuff. I mean, what is the question?
Maybe you need a new hobby.
Perhaps I have misunderstood the original post...?
I was replying to Mugz. Seems like a very unfocused question. His opening line days he's kind of fed up with music which kind of answers everything that follows.
Qobuz and decent headphones at work. Only place I get to listen to music in relative peace for any length of time. Thankfully my employer is cool with it. Trying to listen to music at home with 3 kids and limited space is a waste of time. Spotify and an Alexa cater for music at home but I rarely get control over what's playing! I like Qobuz as streaming service as it often contains plenty of supporting info like pdf's of cd booklets and liner notes and it has some decent magazine style articles too. Much less catering for 'mass market' music than say Spotify in the recommendations etc. although it does have a more limited catalogue.
thanks to the 2 lads there for the responses. Nice to see I'm not the only one who's fed up with the way music is but not completely ready to abandon music completely.
if streaming looks to be my thing from now on, do you find any problems with sound quality? I fucken hate 320kbps being 'standard' as it sounds like muck to these ears
Part of the reason I went with Qobuz is the hi-res format. I have the Studio package which is up to 24Bit 192kHz - with a minimum of cd quality flac at 16Bit 44kHz. It does stream mp3's if you need for situations where bandwidth is an issue
I'm in the situation now where I find I'm more discerning in my tastes but have far less time to devote to listening to music. Having kids and working shifts has put paid to having the luxury of sitting down and devoting proper time to listening to albums in their entirety, which I would have done as a teenager. The only opportunity I really get to absorb music is my commute to work, which I'm glad to say takes 45 mins by car. I'm with McLove here regarding the initial question as it's a bit unfocused, but if I am interpreting things correctly, then I would highly recommend investing in a discman or Walkman to access your physical collection in your own time.
Quote from: 101_North on June 17, 2020, 02:32:24 PM
Part of the reason I went with Qobuz is the hi-res format. I have the Studio package which is up to 24Bit 192kHz - with a minimum of cd quality flac at 16Bit 44kHz. It doesn't stream mp3's.
this sounds like it would suit me well and proper.
would they have marduk and carcass, and also like 80s pop, or modern hipster stuff; like they'd have eclectic tastes well covered?
Quote from: StoutAndAle on June 17, 2020, 01:35:26 PM
I think part of this is the sheer amount of music that is now available literally at one's fingertips. Back in the 90s, I'd have enough money at the end of the week to buy 2 or 3 records.
Tis funny, I was thinking about this when watching the Primordial documentary a couple of weeks back. Alan mentions at some point that at the height of the tape-trading days, if you were really into it as he was, then you might be receiving 10 to 15 tapes per week from all over the world! Even with streaming, at no point in my life have I ever listened to fifteen new albums in one week.
Anyway, to the question at hand, I don't use a portable music device at the moment, but I stream a lot, mainly from YouTube in work. Nothing I listen to in work gets any kind of full attention. When I work from home, I do the same with vinyl; music just kind of playing in the background. With the way my schedule is now, I get to properly sit down and listen to I'd say one or maximum two albums a day. And I consider that to be plenty enough. Sometimes it might be the same album every day for a week, as when the Sweven album or the last Gospel of the Witches album dropped, this new Cryptic Shift will be the same. That's what "wearing an album out" is for me these days, and I have to say I really enjoy it. If I happen to be able to throw a joint into that mix from time to time, that's just bliss.
The sound quality issue doesn't get to me precisely because when I'm streaming it's always more or less background to whatever I'm actually engaged in so I'm not tuned in enough to get bugged by hi-hats sounding whack every so often, etc. I'd say a premium lossless, or quasi-lossless option with most streaming services can't be very far off now anyway though. What Spotify uses is already better at 320kbps than MP3 anyway.
Qobuz has Marduk and Carcass. They have 80's pop. They cover eclectic tastes. Like all streaming services they have gaps but they aren't as wide as I feared. The recommendations algorithm isn't great but I don't really need one. At least it's not constantly pushing Kanye West at me like Tidal! Taking a trial is the only way to know if a particular service is for you. At £14.99 it's not cheap but I think the extra fiver over Spotify is well worth it.
I do miss browsing stores, buying CD's or vinyl and having the time to pour a drink and really absorb it. Life just doesn't work like that for me anymore.
The car is where I listen to most stuff these days. Unless I'm boozin of an evening but that doesn't go down too well. Similarly, I don't get to digest music the same way as before. What I've been doing is making "Best Ofs" and loading them on to MP3. It's fairly time consuming and I'm not discovering much in the way of new music bar the odd bit here and there. It is kinda forcing me to go through albums I haven't listened to in years, so there's that.
In a very opposite to the "iceberg" kinda way, I'm more or less happy with the collection I have either on CD or downloaded, and try keep up to date with those bands therein.
Can't say I really think about it that much. I'm never going to be able to read all the books in my local library in my lifetime, never mind all the books that have been written that I might theoretically want to read or would have recommended to me. It still hasn't stopped me from reading or feeling shitty about reading, though.
More music than ever is available to us in more formats than ever, and I'm hugely excited by this. For metal especially, I generally find Bandcamp and albums ripped to YouTube channels sufficient for discovering new material and background listening when I work/drink/exercise or what have you. If I like something enough, I'll ideally find a vinyl of it because sitting on the beanbag staring a hole through record sleeves when I listen to the vinyl is my personal favourite way of listening to an album consciously. I'll do that a few times a week, and I'm forever catching up on getting the classics on vinyl, too. I'm not an audiophile elitist for the format or anything like that, whatever floats your boat, but personally I nearly always prefer the sound and feel of the medium so that's how I choose to do it.
These kind of things are six of one half a dozen of the other. Do more and more young people use music as a utility - pop a few tunes on shuffle for the jog - rather than imbibing an album as a contained piece of art? Sure. But they're the people who don't go out of their way to actually list music as a passion. They've always been there. Bopping away, going to the big show in town, but generally not that bothered. There's also plenty of people able to obtain and enjoy more high quality albums than ever before these days. It's up to you if that devalues things a little for you or not. Personally I'm doing just fine and I'll be buying albums, getting pissed and inhaling the fucking things for a long time to come.
Quote from: mugz on June 17, 2020, 10:25:41 AM
I'm a bit not interested in music as much as in past years/decades. There's too many ways of listening to music from free to expensive, and in many ways there's far too much music these days.
Does anyone have a system to maintain some level of interaction with music, but it's maybe inbetween just telling Alexa to play 90s thrash or whatever, and having masses of cds or vinyl etc?
is there a middle ground where you don't have to abandon it all completely, but you don't have shelves of stuff you can't find the time to listen to?
Honestly, I recommend sticking to the CDs or Vinyl or Cassettes. Whichever physical format is your preference. I have a bit of a system going these days, where I check out new things on streaming or whatever and if I like it enough after 3 or 4 listens, I try buy a physical copy. In the last 12 months or so, I have tried to limit myself to listening to albums all the way through to try recapture some of the magic I felt when listening as a younger fella. I find myself enjoying the confines of my collection much more than during the few years when I stopped buying things and used youtube and downloads for my kicks. I have a walkman for using in work but I don't even plug it into the car when I driving. It's CDs all the way for me these days. I don't even skip shit songs any more, I just accept them as part of the album. I can't handle doing that with streaming, it just takes away all of my patience for things.
And if the collection is getting too big, just weed out the weak ones and update the collection accordingly. 10 in, 10 out sort of concept
Quote from: astfgyl on June 17, 2020, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: mugz on June 17, 2020, 10:25:41 AM
I'm a bit not interested in music as much as in past years/decades. There's too many ways of listening to music from free to expensive, and in many ways there's far too much music these days.
Does anyone have a system to maintain some level of interaction with music, but it's maybe inbetween just telling Alexa to play 90s thrash or whatever, and having masses of cds or vinyl etc?
is there a middle ground where you don't have to abandon it all completely, but you don't have shelves of stuff you can't find the time to listen to?
Honestly, I recommend sticking to the CDs or Vinyl or Cassettes. Whichever physical format is your preference. I have a bit of a system going these days, where I check out new things on streaming or whatever and if I like it enough after 3 or 4 listens, I try buy a physical copy. In the last 12 months or so, I have tried to limit myself to listening to albums all the way through to try recapture some of the magic I felt when listening as a younger fella. I find myself enjoying the confines of my collection much more than during the few years when I stopped buying things and used youtube and downloads for my kicks. I have a walkman for using in work but I don't even plug it into the car when I driving. It's CDs all the way for me these days. I don't even skip shit songs any more, I just accept them as part of the album. I can't handle doing that with streaming, it just takes away all of my patience for things.
And if the collection is getting too big, just weed out the weak ones and update the collection accordingly. 10 in, 10 out sort of concept
cds are underrated- the shitty art/ inlays, and decades of overpricing turned people off them, but I enjoy the sound quality, even if it doesn't match a brand new tape or a vinyl in an expensive hifi.
thanks for the account of your solution, it's helpful to learn how other people got over a slump with music
Not once in my life have I ever heard someone say they prefer that CD can't match the sound quality of tape.
Anyway, I make a point of still listening to albums in their entirety and still having a proper session with them (as in, I'm sitting with feet up, nothing else, just the album).
I think having good audio quality and gear is very important too. I was using a set of Sennheiser HD4.40BT headphones for a while, and while they're usable, I couldn't EQ them how I wanted them (no warmth to the bass, eugh), they didn't have noise cancellation and their max volume made listening to older albums a chore. So I fucked them off, bought some Sony WH1000XM3s (snappy names all round, eh) and I love listening to music on them to the point where I'll find an excuse to use them.
Quote from: Ducky on June 18, 2020, 11:54:24 AM
Not once in my life have I ever heard someone say they prefer that CD can't match the sound quality of tape.
Anyway, I make a point of still listening to albums in their entirety and still having a proper session with them (as in, I'm sitting with feet up, nothing else, just the album).
I think having good audio quality and gear is very important too. I was using a set of Sennheiser HD4.40BT headphones for a while, and while they're usable, I couldn't EQ them how I wanted them (no warmth to the bass, eugh), they didn't have noise cancellation and their max volume made listening to older albums a chore. So I fucked them off, bought some Sony WH1000XM3s (snappy names all round, eh) and I love listening to music on them to the point where I'll find an excuse to use them.
I'm terrified of wireless headphones. 3.5mm is something I like
Quote from: mugz on June 18, 2020, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: Ducky on June 18, 2020, 11:54:24 AM
Not once in my life have I ever heard someone say they prefer that CD can't match the sound quality of tape.
Anyway, I make a point of still listening to albums in their entirety and still having a proper session with them (as in, I'm sitting with feet up, nothing else, just the album).
I think having good audio quality and gear is very important too. I was using a set of Sennheiser HD4.40BT headphones for a while, and while they're usable, I couldn't EQ them how I wanted them (no warmth to the bass, eugh), they didn't have noise cancellation and their max volume made listening to older albums a chore. So I fucked them off, bought some Sony WH1000XM3s (snappy names all round, eh) and I love listening to music on them to the point where I'll find an excuse to use them.
I'm terrified of wireless headphones. 3.5mm is something I like
No need to be terrified of wireless these days. Wireless headphones have improved to a ridiculous degree. The Sony's already mentioned are fantastic and I also have a set of Bowers & Wilkins that sound fantastic.
Why are you 'terrified' of them? Bluetooth tech has come a long way.
Had a thing typed, but what 101_North says.
Quote from: Ducky on June 18, 2020, 01:14:20 PM
Why are you 'terrified' of them? Bluetooth tech has come a long way.
Had a thing typed, but what 101_North says.
I want my music to have some relationship with mechanically wound copper wiring. It's not entirely rational. We all have our preferences though.
Just as an aside, what's the battery like on wireless headphones? Been avoiding them as I hate the idea of having more stuff that that can run out of power when I'm out listening to music
Quote from: Trev on June 18, 2020, 01:34:38 PM
Just as an aside, what's the battery like on wireless headphones? Been avoiding them as I hate the idea of having more stuff that that can run out of power when I'm out listening to music
My Bowers & Wilkins give about 30hrs with noise cancelling on. A 15min charge gives them around 5hrs if you get stuck. I believe the Sony's are about the same playback time.
Same as that for my Sonys (I charge them using the same charger as my S8). I can charge the first 80% in around 35 minutes, to max them it takes about an hour.
They're advertised at 30 hours with noise cancelling on and that's effectively what I get. I don't use DSEE HX in the app (it 'upscales' lower quality files, but I don't have any low quality files) - that apparently skims about 20% off the battery life.
I had the same concerns about battery life but it's never been an issue.
As an aside, I bought one of these two years ago and it's one of the handiest things to have.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-PowerPort-Family-Sized-Technology-Smartphones-Black/dp/B00PK1IIJY/ref=asc_df_B00PK1IIJY/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=214877336784&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6721229385399637525&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007895&hvtargid=pla-420046835187&psc=1
Quote from: mugz on June 18, 2020, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: Ducky on June 18, 2020, 01:14:20 PM
Why are you 'terrified' of them? Bluetooth tech has come a long way.
Had a thing typed, but what 101_North says.
I want my music to have some relationship with mechanically wound copper wiring. It's not entirely rational. We all have our preferences though.
Ha, fair enough.
Audio software and wireless codecs have so many bells and whistles these days you'd be hard pushed to tell what sort of source and connection you're using.
I grew up with the internet/MP3s and vinyl was just stuff my parents had in a box that I never got around to until the general resurgence in popularity. Vast majority of my listening has been on my iPods, which are still going strong for me daily.
I still managed to obsess over albums and know them inside out. It's entirely up to you how you choose to engage with music and I think we've never lived in a better time for it. Absolutely love how I can hear a song somewhere, make a note of some of the lyrics and then just find it in most cases. I do enjoy listening on vinyl as well, definitely a different experience, in the sense that it's rarely a "background music" scenario and it's a pain to skip.
I genuinely think the analogue vs digital thing belongs in the bin with the enormous pile of hocus pocus that seems to come with the territory of audio/music. I'm not buying the 320 claims for a second. I'd be willing to put money on no one here actually being able to discern the difference between it and uncompressed. That's not how the data compression works, it relies on exploiting an auditory illusion, if it sounded properly shite it wouldn't be standard. Not having a dig at anyone, I just think it's really overstated in these discussions.
https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality
For the laugh
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on June 18, 2020, 03:52:57 PM
I grew up with the internet/MP3s and vinyl was just stuff my parents had in a box that I never got around to until the general resurgence in popularity. Vast majority of my listening has been on my iPods, which are still going strong for me daily.
I still managed to obsess over albums and know them inside out. It's entirely up to you how you choose to engage with music and I think we've never lived in a better time for it. Absolutely love how I can hear a song somewhere, make a note of some of the lyrics and then just find it in most cases. I do enjoy listening on vinyl as well, definitely a different experience, in the sense that it's rarely a "background music" scenario and it's a pain to skip.
I genuinely think the analogue vs digital thing belongs in the bin with the enormous pile of hocus pocus that seems to come with the territory of audio/music. I'm not buying the 320 claims for a second. I'd be willing to put money on no one here actually being able to discern the difference between it and uncompressed. That's not how the data compression works, it relies on exploiting an auditory illusion, if it sounded properly shite it wouldn't be standard. Not having a dig at anyone, I just think it's really overstated in these discussions.
https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality
For the laugh
I can hear the difference between different 'lossless' formats; that's one of the reasons for being tired of music- in some ways you can't beat a cd in a cd player, but we had 2 decades of trying every damned other way around it, it just gets tiring
that npr test is odd because it doesn't ask you which sounds best, just which seems to convey the most sonic information from a server through the www to my router to my laptop to my ears, in which case a compressed file will sound better, and the larger file can sound hissier and glassier.
so knowing that, I chose the glassiest one each time and got only one wrong.
Sweet.
I do agree CD is underappreciated. Crispy with very little in the way of limitations.
Mugz, how do you hear the difference between different lossless formats? It's literally the same data (hence 'lossles') just organized differently so it takes up less space, so when you play it back, you get the exact same spectrum of audio.
I'm very much in the "high quality MP3s are fine" camp. I've done ABX tests set up locally and I can hear a difference between FLAC/ALAC and good MP3s, but I have to concentrate on it. The difference is effectively imperceptible in a real world environment (and I need the other file type as reference and keep swapping between them).
Quote from: Ducky on June 18, 2020, 02:44:06 PM
As an aside, I bought one of these two years ago and it's one of the handiest things to have.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-PowerPort-Family-Sized-Technology-Smartphones-Black/dp/B00PK1IIJY/ref=asc_df_B00PK1IIJY/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=214877336784&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6721229385399637525&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007895&hvtargid=pla-420046835187&psc=1
You can pick up electric sockets with additional USB ports for around a tenner. I've been upgrading sockets around the house, usually a couple every few weeks to spread the expense. Now every room has at least two USB ports for charging. Very handy.
Jaysus I might follow suit, great idea, and I the plug boards lying around all over the place drive me nuts.
If only I could remember which colour wire is which...Be grand if I make a mistake though yeah? I almost set my apartment on fire trying to solder a worn out cable jack once so I might get a sparky in just to be sure.
Quote from: Ducky on June 18, 2020, 05:14:28 PM
I'm very much in the "high quality MP3s are fine" camp. I've done ABX tests set up locally and I can hear a difference between FLAC/ALAC and good MP3s, but I have to concentrate on it. The difference is effectively imperceptible in a real world environment (and I need the other file type as reference and keep swapping between them).
I can handle a 320 just fine and have happily burned discs using that as the source. I do think there is a difference though, and it is in the clarity of the low end. I also think that difference only applies to newer albums (last 20 years) as the recording methods used before that didn't lend themselves to the same clarity of low end anyway so it isn't noticeable. Whenever I listen to remastered stuff the most noticeable thing to me is the use of exciters in the low end, which really gives added depth to the mixes. Unfortunately a lot of remasters still end up sounding worse than the originals anyway for one reason or another.
I will also say there is a lot of shite talked regarding clarity and there is no point killing oneself for the highest fidelity format, unless one has the system to highlight the difference.
Quote from: Ducky on June 18, 2020, 05:12:36 PM
Mugz, how do you hear the difference between different lossless formats? It's literally the same data (hence 'lossles') just organized differently so it takes up less space, so when you play it back, you get the exact same spectrum of audio.
it's a long conversation, but trust me there's a difference.
AIFF is the only format that nearly did the job, but even then it was less than a normal cd in a cd walkman. I use that combo as a guiding metric as it's got the 'cleanest' chain.
Quote from: Caomhaoin on June 18, 2020, 07:33:17 PM
Jaysus I might follow suit, great idea, and I the plug boards lying around all over the place drive me nuts.
If only I could remember which colour wire is which...Be grand if I make a mistake though yeah? I almost set my apartment on fire trying to solder a worn out cable jack once so I might get a sparky in just to be sure.
😂
They colour-code the terminals these days 😁
Quote from: Juggz on June 19, 2020, 07:00:12 AM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on June 18, 2020, 07:33:17 PM
Jaysus I might follow suit, great idea, and I the plug boards lying around all over the place drive me nuts.
If only I could remember which colour wire is which...Be grand if I make a mistake though yeah? I almost set my apartment on fire trying to solder a worn out cable jack once so I might get a sparky in just to be sure.
😂
They colour-code the terminals these days 😁
brown for live, still can't understand that one
230V running through you will open up the back door, with unpleasant consequences.
Also, Woodies are doing two switched double sockets with three USB ports for €16 at the moment.
What kind of voltage do the USB ports provide?
I've got two on an extension lead and they're dreadful.
https://www.woodies.ie/switched-double-socket-with-3x-3-1a-usb-ports-1138928
I'll be having some of those myself. Pain in the arse that you can't charge an iPod via USB, it has to be connected to the computer/laptop etc.
Every ipod I ever had will charge off a dumb USB port.
Quote from: Juggz on June 19, 2020, 11:40:50 AM
230V running through you will open up the back door, with unpleasant consequences.
Also, Woodies are doing two switched double sockets with three USB ports for €16 at the moment.
brown should be earth, blue live, yellow-green for neutral, just something that's bugged me over the years
Quote from: Juggz on June 19, 2020, 12:45:07 PM
Every ipod I ever had will charge off a dumb USB port.
Neither of mine will.
Four pages in and no one yet has given the right answer. With your fucking ears.
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on June 18, 2020, 04:27:00 PM
I do agree CD is underappreciated. Crispy with very little in the way of limitations.
CD's sound great until they get scratched or skip when you're driving on a bumpy road.
Quote from: Trev on June 18, 2020, 01:34:38 PM
Just as an aside, what's the battery like on wireless headphones? Been avoiding them as I hate the idea of having more stuff that that can run out of power when I'm out listening to music
I was also put off by the same thought for a while, but this has never been an issue for me. And if the battery ever did run out of power, you can still plug them in with the provided 3.5mm cable and use them just like a regular pair of headphones ;)
CDs were somewhat hostile when they first arrived there was a real antempt to take over from ever other format even though cassettes and records were long established. Digital music means streaming more than CDs now and the thing about streaming I find is that I will generally use it to search and check out new music more than anything else which I enjoy doing but then I am constantly looking at new things and only listening very breifly.
I have a stereo set up which is all second hand that I'd like to change and then I think if I get some headphones and a dap that I can also plug in to the stereo it would be basically records and downloaded music for me. I don't think I can return to tapes and I have still never fully warmed to CDs even though they accumulate. Listening to headphones at work might be possible although it is a noisy environment the other thing is to sit down and give whatever it is your full attention and not just have it as something going on in the background. Not to mention live music.
Quote from: Alphonsus on June 20, 2020, 01:46:51 PM
CDs were somewhat hostile when they first arrived there was a real antempt to take over from ever other format even though cassettes and records were long established. Digital music means streaming more than CDs now and the thing about streaming I find is that I will generally use it to search and check out new music more than anything else which I enjoy doing but then I am constantly looking at new things and only listening very breifly.
I have a stereo set up which is all second hand that I'd like to change and then I think if I get some headphones and a dap that I can also plug in to the stereo it would be basically records and downloaded music for me. I don't think I can return to tapes and I have still never fully warmed to CDs even though they accumulate. Listening to headphones at work might be possible although it is a noisy environment the other thing is to sit down and give whatever it is your full attention and not just have it as something going on in the background. Not to mention live music.
I can go along with this