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Title: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 07:57:06 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Black_Sabbath_debut_album.jpg)

The official birth of Metal as we know it?

I am currently on a plane, waiting to take off, heading to Birmingham to see Zakk Wylde take a Zakk Wylde-sized shite on the early Sabbath catalogue. I felt the date needed to be celebrated in some way, although preferably with less pinch-harmonics.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Wiseblood on February 13, 2020, 08:02:12 AM
I hope you have your BLS leather vest on for the trip  :laugh:
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Don Gately on February 13, 2020, 08:11:05 AM
Yes great album. Love the atmosphere on this. Definitely the birth of metal going to listen to it later.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on February 13, 2020, 08:29:27 AM
Unreal album and it's older than me, hahaha...
Sabbath are my all time favourite band. I never get tired of their first 6 albums.
Gonna have a few cans tonight and pay homage to the masters of Metalllllll....
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Eoin McLove on February 13, 2020, 08:45:20 AM
The song Black Sabbath is unreal.  Imagine hearing those funeral bells followed by that slow evil riff for the first time, coming out of the hippy 60s. I don't think any other band at the time had touched on such a sense of dread. Arguably the beginning of heavy metal,  undoubtedly the beginning of doom!
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Wiseblood on February 13, 2020, 08:47:51 AM
They were true pioneers. 50 years old and still heavy even by today's standards.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 08:53:50 AM
Quote from: Wiseblood on February 13, 2020, 08:02:12 AM
I hope you have your BLS leather vest on for the trip  :laugh:
Tipperary chapter, brah!  :laugh:

There was rock, heavy rock, before this but, to me, this is where Metal begins.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Melmoth on February 13, 2020, 10:29:23 AM
Still remember listening to the song Black Sabbath for the first time as a kid and my friend telling me that the three notes played in that order was some ancient tune used to summon demons that had been outlawed by the church, was proper worried listening to it  :laugh:

Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 11:21:11 AM
Not entirely untrue   :)

It is built around the tritone, often known as "diabolus in musica" or the devil's interval which has an interesting history.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Ducky on February 13, 2020, 11:25:18 AM
I'm sure there's a wiki article about it with a list (lists!) but what are the other well known uses of it? The only two the immediately spring to mind are the intros to Hendrix's "Purple Haze" and Atheist's "Mother Man".
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Pedrito on February 13, 2020, 11:37:17 AM
What an amazing album and still sounds as great as the day it was recorded. I wonder if there's a wispy, whispery version done by some bland, homogenous twat that would be safe enough to play in Starbucks? 'Noo, please God help meeeee!'
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Ollkiller on February 13, 2020, 11:38:28 AM
What an album to kick off heavy metal. Mind was blown first time I heard it. It's a great heavy album bit it's the inherent groove in the songs that gets me every time. 
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 13, 2020, 11:55:44 AM
Now I have you with me, under my power
Our love grows stronger now with every hour
Look into my eyes, you'll see who I am
My name is Tony Iommi, please take my hand.

Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Ducky on February 13, 2020, 12:01:33 PM
*but watch me fingertips, guv'.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Eoin McLove on February 13, 2020, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on February 13, 2020, 11:37:17 AM
What an amazing album and still sounds as great as the day it was recorded. I wonder if there's a wispy, whispery version done by some bland, homogenous twat that would be safe enough to play in Starbucks? 'Noo, please God help meeeee!'

:laugh:
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Airneanach on February 13, 2020, 01:20:27 PM
Closest thing you'll get to an objective fiftieth birthday for metal, isn't it?

Tis a beautiful, beautiful album.

Eoin's said it best about the oscillating quality that eponymous song must have had on the minds of listeners back in the day. It's a moment that catalysed music culture as a whole, I think. It's them, Kraftwerk and Beatles that laid the foundations that most of anything's come from since in pop/rock.

There's entire subgenres that seemingly just try and sound as close to Master of Reality as possible. People are mad for it on this island.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy on February 13, 2020, 03:20:52 PM
Quote from: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 07:57:06 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Black_Sabbath_debut_album.jpg)

The official birth of Metal as we know it?

I am currently on a plane, waiting to take off, heading to Birmingham to see Zakk Wylde take a Zakk Wylde-sized shite on the early Sabbath catalogue. I felt the date needed to be celebrated in some way, although preferably with less pinch-harmonics.

I saw it in the viper room in LA 2/3 years ago, was actually good laugh and pretty much what you would expect.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Ducky on February 13, 2020, 03:45:29 PM
What's also wild is they pumped out this and the three following albums within what, two years?
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: lifeeternal on February 13, 2020, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: Ducky on February 13, 2020, 03:45:29 PM
What's also wild is they pumped out this and the three following albums within what, two years?
Y'know the way people (morons) say Sad Wings of Destiny is the first metal album?
The s/t, paranoid, master of reality, vol 4, sabbath bloody sabbath and sabatoge all came out before it! If Master of Reality is not a metal album then there is no such thing as a fucking metal album!
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Juggz on February 14, 2020, 12:42:20 AM
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Quote from: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 07:57:06 AM

I am currently on a plane, waiting to take off, heading to Birmingham to see Zakk Wylde take a Zakk Wylde-sized shite on the early Sabbath catalogue. I felt the date needed to be celebrated in some way, although preferably with less pinch-harmonics.

I saw it in the viper room in LA 2/3 years ago, was actually good laugh and pretty much what you would expect.
It was worse than I thought. Utterly tasteless with endless soloing. The whole trip was a laugh but that band are fucking shite  :laugh:
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Carnage on February 14, 2020, 02:52:59 AM
Quote from: lifeeternal on February 13, 2020, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: Ducky on February 13, 2020, 03:45:29 PM
What's also wild is they pumped out this and the three following albums within what, two years?
Y'know the way people (morons) say Sad Wings of Destiny is the first metal album?
The s/t, paranoid, master of reality, vol 4, sabbath bloody sabbath and sabatoge all came out before it! If Master of Reality is not a metal album then there is no such thing as a fucking metal album!
I've never heard that one before. It's utter tosh, of course as bands like Blue Cheer and Vanilla Fudge were releasing metal in the '60s.
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Wiseblood on February 14, 2020, 07:58:31 AM
Quote from: Juggz on February 14, 2020, 12:42:20 AM
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Quote from: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 07:57:06 AM

I am currently on a plane, waiting to take off, heading to Birmingham to see Zakk Wylde take a Zakk Wylde-sized shite on the early Sabbath catalogue. I felt the date needed to be celebrated in some way, although preferably with less pinch-harmonics.

I saw it in the viper room in LA 2/3 years ago, was actually good laugh and pretty much what you would expect.
It was worse than I thought. Utterly tasteless with endless soloing. The whole trip was a laugh but that band are fucking shite  :laugh:

He didn't play In This River so  :laugh:
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy on February 14, 2020, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: Wiseblood on February 14, 2020, 07:58:31 AM
Quote from: Juggz on February 14, 2020, 12:42:20 AM
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Quote from: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 07:57:06 AM

I am currently on a plane, waiting to take off, heading to Birmingham to see Zakk Wylde take a Zakk Wylde-sized shite on the early Sabbath catalogue. I felt the date needed to be celebrated in some way, although preferably with less pinch-harmonics.

I saw it in the viper room in LA 2/3 years ago, was actually good laugh and pretty much what you would expect.
It was worse than I thought. Utterly tasteless with endless soloing. The whole trip was a laugh but that band are fucking shite  :laugh:

He didn't play In This River so  :laugh:

I was actually calling out for that  ;D
Title: Re: It was 50 years ago today...
Post by: Juggz on February 14, 2020, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: Wiseblood on February 14, 2020, 07:58:31 AM
Quote from: Juggz on February 14, 2020, 12:42:20 AM
Quote from: Aborted on February 13, 2020, 03:20:52 PM
Quote from: Juggz on February 13, 2020, 07:57:06 AM

I am currently on a plane, waiting to take off, heading to Birmingham to see Zakk Wylde take a Zakk Wylde-sized shite on the early Sabbath catalogue. I felt the date needed to be celebrated in some way, although preferably with less pinch-harmonics.

I saw it in the viper room in LA 2/3 years ago, was actually good laugh and pretty much what you would expect.
It was worse than I thought. Utterly tasteless with endless soloing. The whole trip was a laugh but that band are fucking shite  :laugh:

He didn't play In This River so  :laugh:
Cunt played like a man getting paid by the note. Great songs, horrible execution. Bass player had never listened to Geezer in the past,  played like a hack who had the riffs shown to him by the guitarist, having never heard the originals.

The crowd loved it 😂

Oh yeah, heavy metal DJ as a support act, I'll have to go over this in person with you once I have calmed down a bit.