Thought they'd be on the Sunstroke bill but thought some here would be interested.
EU/UK dates are:
August 28 — Leeds, UK @ Leeds Festival
August 30 — Reading, UK @ Reading Festival
September 1 — Paris, France @ Rock En Seine Festival
September 4 — Stradbally Laois, Ireland @ Electric Picnic Festival
September 6 — Berlin, Germany @ Lollapalooza Berlin Festival
September 8 — Prague, Czech Republic @ O2 Arena
September 10 — Krakow, Poland @ Tauron Arena
Ah balls
So, Eastern Europe to avoid having to go to a festival?
I wouldn't go to electric picnic but that's my school planning weekend every year anyway. But again, Eastern Europe would indeed be preferable to that fuckin place.
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 11, 2020, 09:32:53 AM
So, Eastern Europe to avoid having to go to a festival?
You still in France/Paris? Rock en Seine worth it? They're playing the Tuesday, which seems weird.
I'll probably try to do the Reading date (can stay in a friend's nearby hopefully) tempted by one/both NY dates as well ...
Quote from: Halo on February 11, 2020, 11:15:03 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 11, 2020, 09:32:53 AM
So, Eastern Europe to avoid having to go to a festival?
You still in France/Paris? Rock en Seine worth it? They're playing the Tuesday, which seems weird.
Hey man, still in France but down in Bordeaux. The "rock" in 'Rock en Seine' should be very much understood in the vein of the famous quip attributed to John Lennon ; "French rock is a bit like English wine." It's a pop festival. I think Macklemore played it a couple of years ago.
There's a few thousand yoked out of it young wans with jewels on their head anyway who'll get to do the "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!" bit.
They are catching a lot of flack for just going after the money gigs, which would be fine but does it not go a bit against their ethos? Can't say I mind but there's something to it.
Ethos :laugh:
When they played here in 93 the t-shirts were comfortably more expensive than anyone else who had been through. Take the ethos at face value and not much more than well meaning cos these guys like to get paid the same as everyone else.
The music they've made is the dog's bollocks. Couldn't care less about the ethos. What I will say, though, is that they've become a bit of a Fight the Power caricature. Maybe they've always been that to some people anyway, who knows, but that stink's fairly heavy on them now having gone a whole generation without new material and being known primarily for that song.
What I'm saying is that the Manic Street Preachers are still your boy's favorite socialist Dad Band.
Yep, still love the music, even liked Prophets of Rage. They spin a good line on social awareness but I don't expect any more than that from them.
Fuck you I'm not doing me homework.
Could never stand that whiney nasal rat headed cunt.
Quote from: Juggz on February 11, 2020, 01:37:58 PM
When they played here in 93 the t-shirts were comfortably more expensive than anyone else who had been through. Take the ethos at face value and not much more than well meaning cos these guys like to get paid the same as everyone else.
Interesting. The same year they had a quibble with the Lollapalooza organisers because they wanted to sell their own t-shirts at a much lower price than the official fest shirts and, supposedly, when the organisers said no dice, they decided not to sell any at all rather than sell them at twice what they had wished.
Anyway, almost as predictable as the "any new Sepultura album" responses innit!
Ahh nobody is as bad as Soulfly, come on :laugh:
Literally everyone who trots out the same dumb shit every time this comes up
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One of the world's biggest bands to play the only festival of international scale in the country. Never saw that coming.
Quote from: StrangersWithGuns on February 11, 2020, 01:28:35 PM
They are catching a lot of flack for just going after the money gigs, which would be fine but does it not go a bit against their ethos? Can't say I mind but there's something to it.
I am getting to see them headline an indoor show in July tickets go on sale this Thursday and the starting price is almost $50 higher then the Guns N Roses tickets I bought last week.
It's one band I won't complain about have seen them twice already and can't wait to see them again. Even saw Prophets of Rage 2 and a half years and it just wasn't the same.
I just hope they don't rant over and over in between songs about Donald Trump.
Just noticed as well they are playing another show two days before the one I plan on going to that's an hour away so will probably hit both dates if I can get tickets. Haven't played here in 21 years so that as well as ticketmasters touting is going to make it difficult to get tickets.
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on February 11, 2020, 07:25:48 PM
Literally everyone who trots out the same dumb shit every time this comes up
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One of the world's biggest bands to play the only festival of international scale in the country. Never saw that coming.
They have sold roughly 18 million albums - that doesn't make then even close to being one of the world's biggest bands - serious units shifted in a metal /hard Rock sense but in terms of the bands that will surely be playing EP? It's fuck all
One of the world's biggest/most in demand touring acts then, maybe. Mystique and nostalgia are what you base that stuff on nowadays, not album sales. They're - what - top 50 worldwide top 15 rock/metal? Not Guns n' Roses or AC/DC tier, but certainly in the Pearl Jam bracket underneath them in terms of viable fantasy festival headliners.
Quote from: Airneanach on February 12, 2020, 11:21:10 AM
One of the world's biggest/most in demand touring acts then, maybe. Mystique and nostalgia are what you base that stuff on nowadays, not album sales. They're - what - top 50 worldwide top 15 rock/metal? Not Guns n' Roses or AC/DC tier, but certainly in the Pearl Jam bracket underneath them in terms of viable fantasy festival headliners.
Some might argue they are in terms of the metal sphere but overall they aren't - I'm talking in terms of music as a whole. They don't compare to the likes of Coldplay or any of that shite but that's the stuff people go to the likes of electric picnic to see
Quote from: Bogmetaller on February 12, 2020, 12:49:49 PM
Quote from: Airneanach on February 12, 2020, 11:21:10 AM
One of the world's biggest/most in demand touring acts then, maybe. Mystique and nostalgia are what you base that stuff on nowadays, not album sales. They're - what - top 50 worldwide top 15 rock/metal? Not Guns n' Roses or AC/DC tier, but certainly in the Pearl Jam bracket underneath them in terms of viable fantasy festival headliners.
Some might argue they are in terms of the metal sphere but overall they aren't - I'm talking in terms of music as a whole. They don't compare to the likes of Coldplay or any of that shite but that's the stuff people go to the likes of electric picnic to see
Is it? Coldplay are stratospheric. Stradbally would be lucky to get one act that big on its lineup, let alone three of four. I think you're underestimating Rage's casual pull somewhat.
They're easily in the top 25 - 50 viable touring acts who can be put at the top of a mainstream festival bill and cause a buzz. Coldplay they ain't, but it's not like they've gone and booked Satyricon either.
A quick google puts Tom Morello's net worth around $30 - 35 million. So i wouldnt exactly say they playing for their fellow working class at this point
I'm working at the festival, so I'll be there anyway. Delighted with this announcement :abbath:
Quote from: Airneanach on February 12, 2020, 11:21:10 AM
One of the world's biggest/most in demand touring acts then, maybe. Mystique and nostalgia are what you base that stuff on nowadays, not album sales. They're - what - top 50 worldwide top 15 rock/metal? Not Guns n' Roses or AC/DC tier, but certainly in the Pearl Jam bracket underneath them in terms of viable fantasy festival headliners.
Where I am Guns N Roses are playing a 40,000 capacity stadium and then a week later Rage are playing a hockey arena that holds just under 14,000. Guns N Roses played the same 14,000 capacity venue as Rage 2 years ago and did 2 nights in a row. Pearl Jam are playing the 14,000 arena next month and it's sold out. I expect Rage to sell out fast as well with it being the first gig since the Battle of LA tour.
When I saw Prophets of Rage 2 years ago they played a 16,000 capacity outdoor venue and that was close to sold out.
Rage are definitely in demand as they are well know for great live shows and that fact that every time they break up it always seems like that's it.
Quote from: Airneanach on February 12, 2020, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: Bogmetaller on February 12, 2020, 12:49:49 PM
Quote from: Airneanach on February 12, 2020, 11:21:10 AM
One of the world's biggest/most in demand touring acts then, maybe. Mystique and nostalgia are what you base that stuff on nowadays, not album sales. They're - what - top 50 worldwide top 15 rock/metal? Not Guns n' Roses or AC/DC tier, but certainly in the Pearl Jam bracket underneath them in terms of viable fantasy festival headliners.
Some might argue they are in terms of the metal sphere but overall they aren't - I'm talking in terms of music as a whole. They don't compare to the likes of Coldplay or any of that shite but that's the stuff people go to the likes of electric picnic to see
Is it? Coldplay are stratospheric. Stradbally would be lucky to get one act that big on its lineup, let alone three of four. I think you're underestimating Rage's casual pull somewhat.
They're easily in the top 25 - 50 viable touring acts who can be put at the top of a mainstream festival bill and cause a buzz. Coldplay they ain't, but it's not like they've gone and booked Satyricon either.
My bad - I was full sure they played it recently but obviously not :( maybe I am underestimating their pull - but that may be due to the fact that I think their music is shite - they're one of only about four bands that I've never understood the fascination with
Quote from: Bogmetaller on February 12, 2020, 05:05:48 PM
they're one of only about four bands that I've never understood the fascination with
Now I need to know the other three :)
Quote from: pete on February 12, 2020, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: Bogmetaller on February 12, 2020, 05:05:48 PM
they're one of only about four bands that I've never understood the fascination with
Now I need to know the other three :)
RHCP, Guns n Roses and Pearl Jam just to enlighten you :laugh: :laugh:
Just paid 140 euro each for tickets bit of a rip off in fairness what was the O2 last time in 2010 about 50 or 60 euro. Ticketmaster now have another great new thing were even after logging into your account you have to verify your not a bot by having them call you or text you a code which of course doesn't work properly all the time. Now in the queue trying to get tickets for another show.
Quote from: mickO))) on February 13, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
Just paid 140 euro each for tickets bit of a rip off in fairness what was the O2 last time in 2010 about 50 or 60 euro. Ticketmaster now have another great new thing were even after logging into your account you have to verify your not a bot by having them call you or text you a code which of course doesn't work properly all the time. Now in the queue trying to get tickets for another show.
Does "where you are" involve a currency exchange? Are you in the US? People were saying starting prices for Coachella are $500, so I'm not really sure where one would begin with an average cost of concerts versus cost of living versus average income type comparison tbh! But I guess you're talking about tickets to a single head-liner concert, for starters...?
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 13, 2020, 06:50:39 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on February 13, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
Just paid 140 euro each for tickets bit of a rip off in fairness what was the O2 last time in 2010 about 50 or 60 euro. Ticketmaster now have another great new thing were even after logging into your account you have to verify your not a bot by having them call you or text you a code which of course doesn't work properly all the time. Now in the queue trying to get tickets for another show.
Does "where you are" involve a currency exchange? Are you in the US? People were saying starting prices for Coachella are $500, so I'm not really sure where one would begin with an average cost of concerts versus cost of living versus average income type comparison tbh! But I guess you're talking about tickets to a single head-liner concert, for starters...?
Yes tickets cost $200 Cad which is 140euro. In regards to cost of living where I currently am the minimum wage in Ireland is higher and almost everything is more expensive then back home. Yes all shows are indoor headlining shows.
They announced third date an hour ago so I bought 3 sets of tickets to 3 different gigs and the total came to just over €1200. It just seems crazy that prices are almost triple what I paid 10 years ago back in Dublin other bands prices have not increased by that much. 95% of the time tickets to bands I have seen back in Ireland would be about the same price here.
To compare the cheapest tickets to the Prophets of rage gig I went to in 2016 were $45 which is about €31.
Quote from: nukeabuse on February 12, 2020, 02:11:01 PM
A quick google puts Tom Morello's net worth around $30 - 35 million. So i wouldnt exactly say they playing for their fellow working class at this point
Just like paying €120 for ticket to see international celebrity and multimillionaire Bruce Springsteen sing songs about the common man.
I've turned into a right auld cynical shite, but I really don't know how anyone can enjoy this sort of sthick.
Is that what Bruce is charging now? Last I hear it was €90 when he had that big Seeger Sessions band, about 10 or 12 of them in the Point. The next year he was back solo, essentially busking onstage, for the same ticket price. How does that work, then?
In other news cannibal corpse found to not be stripping, raping and/or strangling people :( :o #sellouts
Equating Cannibal Corpse's obviously fantastical lyrical approach with RATM's overtly far left political rhetoric is a bit of a stretch. That said, I think the argument is a bit ludicrous. I've no doubt Rage are active outside of their main gig and probably donate to various causes and so on. They are massively successful and massively successful bands get paid. Simple as that, really.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 14, 2020, 01:56:20 PM
I've no doubt Rage are active outside of their main gig and probably donate to various causes and so on.
The entire proceeds from the first 3 shows of the tour are going to local activists in the area and some seats from each of the other shows were sold at a higher price than the others with the proceeds also going to some activist. At the end of the day I am sure I would not be in favour of some of the people they are donating to so they should just make donations out their own millions.
Another interesting thing is right before you clicked the confirm button to buy tickets for any of the gigs a message popped up saying something along the lines "the artist has requested that tickets not be given out until 10 days before the show to cut down on scalping" yet when I got onto ticketmaster now to check the shows I am going to loads of tickets for a few hundred each are available and if I go into my account the option to sell the tickets I bought is not available. I guess ticketmaster are not even being transparent anymore about scalping its own shows.